You need to set your news reader to view all the header. In the header
it normally has the address for the abuse department of the person who
wrote the message.

You then need to include the complete message including all the headers
when you complain.

The reference to the Charter can't hurt either so the abuse department
knows the Charter is legit.

Mike

Nick N wrote:
>
> ok, so if someone abuses this charter, where can complaints be sent to?
> Nick
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FCFA1B7.4A223737@sympatico.ca...
> > Seems to be that time of year again for everyone to have a gander at the
> > Charter for this rec. newsgroup.
> >
> > For those who don't know what this rec.*.* NG's charter is the whole
> > process including the votes can be viewed here:
> >
> >
> ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+******
> >
> > Here is the Charter text quoted:
> >
> > RATIONALE: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> >
> > The discussion of Jeep 4 wheel drive vehicles began on the offroad
> > mailing list as well as on the Usenet group rec.autos.4x4. As the
> > offroad mailing list grew in size, the Jeep-L listserver was set up to
> > discuss topics specifically to Jeep and ****** vehicles.
> >
> > At this time there are more that 50 articles sent to the Jeep
> > listserver, as well as > 50 articles being sent on the offroad server
> > daily. The volume on the usenet group rec.autos.4x4 exceeds 125
> > articles daily.
> >
> > It has been suggested that a new Usenet group be created to take the
> > load off of the listservers as well as limit the articles in the
> > rec.autos.4x4 newsgroup.
> >
> > CHARTER: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> >
> > The unmoderated newsgroup rec.autos.makers.jeep+****** is to be used
> > for discussions, announcements, expression of opinions, and questions
> > about Jeep (Trade Mark) and ****** vehicles. It also serves as a
> > medium for those interested in sharing and exchanging their
> > experience. It is also meant to be a forum for buying and selling
> > parts by non-commercial vendors.
> >
> > Some things that could be discussed....
> >
> > -Jeep/****** history
> > -repairs and modifications
> > -parts exchange
> > -technical information
> > -4x4 driving experiences
> > -vehicle restoration
> > -new vehicle evaluations
> >
> > Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
> >
> > -4 wheel drive vehicles made by
> > other manufacturers
> > -commercial posts
> >
> > The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to Usenet
> > but not vise versa.
> >
> > END CHARTER.
> >
> > End quote.
> >
> > Just thought we all needed a reminder that this isn't a free for all
> > alt.*.* group but a rec.*.* group that at least has some basic rules.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
> > 88 Cherokee 235 AT's

 

You need to set your news reader to view all the header. In the header
it normally has the address for the abuse department of the person who
wrote the message.

You then need to include the complete message including all the headers
when you complain.

The reference to the Charter can't hurt either so the abuse department
knows the Charter is legit.

Mike

Nick N wrote:
>
> ok, so if someone abuses this charter, where can complaints be sent to?
> Nick
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FCFA1B7.4A223737@sympatico.ca...
> > Seems to be that time of year again for everyone to have a gander at the
> > Charter for this rec. newsgroup.
> >
> > For those who don't know what this rec.*.* NG's charter is the whole
> > process including the votes can be viewed here:
> >
> >
> ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+******
> >
> > Here is the Charter text quoted:
> >
> > RATIONALE: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> >
> > The discussion of Jeep 4 wheel drive vehicles began on the offroad
> > mailing list as well as on the Usenet group rec.autos.4x4. As the
> > offroad mailing list grew in size, the Jeep-L listserver was set up to
> > discuss topics specifically to Jeep and ****** vehicles.
> >
> > At this time there are more that 50 articles sent to the Jeep
> > listserver, as well as > 50 articles being sent on the offroad server
> > daily. The volume on the usenet group rec.autos.4x4 exceeds 125
> > articles daily.
> >
> > It has been suggested that a new Usenet group be created to take the
> > load off of the listservers as well as limit the articles in the
> > rec.autos.4x4 newsgroup.
> >
> > CHARTER: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> >
> > The unmoderated newsgroup rec.autos.makers.jeep+****** is to be used
> > for discussions, announcements, expression of opinions, and questions
> > about Jeep (Trade Mark) and ****** vehicles. It also serves as a
> > medium for those interested in sharing and exchanging their
> > experience. It is also meant to be a forum for buying and selling
> > parts by non-commercial vendors.
> >
> > Some things that could be discussed....
> >
> > -Jeep/****** history
> > -repairs and modifications
> > -parts exchange
> > -technical information
> > -4x4 driving experiences
> > -vehicle restoration
> > -new vehicle evaluations
> >
> > Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
> >
> > -4 wheel drive vehicles made by
> > other manufacturers
> > -commercial posts
> >
> > The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to Usenet
> > but not vise versa.
> >
> > END CHARTER.
> >
> > End quote.
> >
> > Just thought we all needed a reminder that this isn't a free for all
> > alt.*.* group but a rec.*.* group that at least has some basic rules.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
> > 88 Cherokee 235 AT's

 

You need to set your news reader to view all the header. In the header
it normally has the address for the abuse department of the person who
wrote the message.

You then need to include the complete message including all the headers
when you complain.

The reference to the Charter can't hurt either so the abuse department
knows the Charter is legit.

Mike

Nick N wrote:
>
> ok, so if someone abuses this charter, where can complaints be sent to?
> Nick
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FCFA1B7.4A223737@sympatico.ca...
> > Seems to be that time of year again for everyone to have a gander at the
> > Charter for this rec. newsgroup.
> >
> > For those who don't know what this rec.*.* NG's charter is the whole
> > process including the votes can be viewed here:
> >
> >
> ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+******
> >
> > Here is the Charter text quoted:
> >
> > RATIONALE: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> >
> > The discussion of Jeep 4 wheel drive vehicles began on the offroad
> > mailing list as well as on the Usenet group rec.autos.4x4. As the
> > offroad mailing list grew in size, the Jeep-L listserver was set up to
> > discuss topics specifically to Jeep and ****** vehicles.
> >
> > At this time there are more that 50 articles sent to the Jeep
> > listserver, as well as > 50 articles being sent on the offroad server
> > daily. The volume on the usenet group rec.autos.4x4 exceeds 125
> > articles daily.
> >
> > It has been suggested that a new Usenet group be created to take the
> > load off of the listservers as well as limit the articles in the
> > rec.autos.4x4 newsgroup.
> >
> > CHARTER: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> >
> > The unmoderated newsgroup rec.autos.makers.jeep+****** is to be used
> > for discussions, announcements, expression of opinions, and questions
> > about Jeep (Trade Mark) and ****** vehicles. It also serves as a
> > medium for those interested in sharing and exchanging their
> > experience. It is also meant to be a forum for buying and selling
> > parts by non-commercial vendors.
> >
> > Some things that could be discussed....
> >
> > -Jeep/****** history
> > -repairs and modifications
> > -parts exchange
> > -technical information
> > -4x4 driving experiences
> > -vehicle restoration
> > -new vehicle evaluations
> >
> > Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
> >
> > -4 wheel drive vehicles made by
> > other manufacturers
> > -commercial posts
> >
> > The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to Usenet
> > but not vise versa.
> >
> > END CHARTER.
> >
> > End quote.
> >
> > Just thought we all needed a reminder that this isn't a free for all
> > alt.*.* group but a rec.*.* group that at least has some basic rules.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
> > 88 Cherokee 235 AT's

 

Hi Nick,
You want to send your complaint to: Abuse at their Internet Service
Provider. You'll be able to send a copy by simple clicking of Forward, but
the ISP also needs the abuser's header information, to get that click on the
File at the top left Conner, then Properties, Detailed Tab, right click,
Select All, right click Copy. Then back to the forward message you're
working on and right click Paste. Then try and pick out their real ISP. If
you look at my Header from this message and you'll see to send to:
abuse@***.net, trolls usually hack this and their return address, so you'll
have to follow through the addresses, looking for a point it was initially
sent from. If in doubt send to all of them. With any luck you'll have a
collection of closed accounts, and reputation for being an a**hole. :-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
Mailto:-------------------- http://----------.com/

"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:FANzb.23566$o9.4420@fed1read07...
> ok, so if someone abuses this charter, where can complaints be sent to?
> Nick

 

Hi Nick,
You want to send your complaint to: Abuse at their Internet Service
Provider. You'll be able to send a copy by simple clicking of Forward, but
the ISP also needs the abuser's header information, to get that click on the
File at the top left Conner, then Properties, Detailed Tab, right click,
Select All, right click Copy. Then back to the forward message you're
working on and right click Paste. Then try and pick out their real ISP. If
you look at my Header from this message and you'll see to send to:
abuse@***.net, trolls usually hack this and their return address, so you'll
have to follow through the addresses, looking for a point it was initially
sent from. If in doubt send to all of them. With any luck you'll have a
collection of closed accounts, and reputation for being an a**hole. :-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
Mailto:-------------------- http://----------.com/

"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:FANzb.23566$o9.4420@fed1read07...
> ok, so if someone abuses this charter, where can complaints be sent to?
> Nick

 

Hi Nick,
You want to send your complaint to: Abuse at their Internet Service
Provider. You'll be able to send a copy by simple clicking of Forward, but
the ISP also needs the abuser's header information, to get that click on the
File at the top left Conner, then Properties, Detailed Tab, right click,
Select All, right click Copy. Then back to the forward message you're
working on and right click Paste. Then try and pick out their real ISP. If
you look at my Header from this message and you'll see to send to:
abuse@***.net, trolls usually hack this and their return address, so you'll
have to follow through the addresses, looking for a point it was initially
sent from. If in doubt send to all of them. With any luck you'll have a
collection of closed accounts, and reputation for being an a**hole. :-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
Mailto:-------------------- http://----------.com/

"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:FANzb.23566$o9.4420@fed1read07...
> ok, so if someone abuses this charter, where can complaints be sent to?
> Nick

 

I'm all into being an ***. I've worked hard at it today if you've seen my
other messages.
Nick

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:eKOzb.27323$Bk1.19641@fed1read05...
> Hi Nick,
> You want to send your complaint to: Abuse at their Internet Service
> Provider. You'll be able to send a copy by simple clicking of Forward, but
> the ISP also needs the abuser's header information, to get that click on
the
> File at the top left Conner, then Properties, Detailed Tab, right click,
> Select All, right click Copy. Then back to the forward message you're
> working on and right click Paste. Then try and pick out their real ISP. If
> you look at my Header from this message and you'll see to send to:
> abuse@***.net, trolls usually hack this and their return address, so
you'll
> have to follow through the addresses, looking for a point it was initially
> sent from. If in doubt send to all of them. With any luck you'll have a
> collection of closed accounts, and reputation for being an a**hole. :-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> Mailto:-------------------- http://----------.com/
>
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:FANzb.23566$o9.4420@fed1read07...
> > ok, so if someone abuses this charter, where can complaints be sent to?
> > Nick
>
>

 

I'm all into being an ***. I've worked hard at it today if you've seen my
other messages.
Nick

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:eKOzb.27323$Bk1.19641@fed1read05...
> Hi Nick,
> You want to send your complaint to: Abuse at their Internet Service
> Provider. You'll be able to send a copy by simple clicking of Forward, but
> the ISP also needs the abuser's header information, to get that click on
the
> File at the top left Conner, then Properties, Detailed Tab, right click,
> Select All, right click Copy. Then back to the forward message you're
> working on and right click Paste. Then try and pick out their real ISP. If
> you look at my Header from this message and you'll see to send to:
> abuse@***.net, trolls usually hack this and their return address, so
you'll
> have to follow through the addresses, looking for a point it was initially
> sent from. If in doubt send to all of them. With any luck you'll have a
> collection of closed accounts, and reputation for being an a**hole. :-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> Mailto:-------------------- http://----------.com/
>
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:FANzb.23566$o9.4420@fed1read07...
> > ok, so if someone abuses this charter, where can complaints be sent to?
> > Nick
>
>

 

I'm all into being an ***. I've worked hard at it today if you've seen my
other messages.
Nick

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:eKOzb.27323$Bk1.19641@fed1read05...
> Hi Nick,
> You want to send your complaint to: Abuse at their Internet Service
> Provider. You'll be able to send a copy by simple clicking of Forward, but
> the ISP also needs the abuser's header information, to get that click on
the
> File at the top left Conner, then Properties, Detailed Tab, right click,
> Select All, right click Copy. Then back to the forward message you're
> working on and right click Paste. Then try and pick out their real ISP. If
> you look at my Header from this message and you'll see to send to:
> abuse@***.net, trolls usually hack this and their return address, so
you'll
> have to follow through the addresses, looking for a point it was initially
> sent from. If in doubt send to all of them. With any luck you'll have a
> collection of closed accounts, and reputation for being an a**hole. :-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> Mailto:-------------------- http://----------.com/
>
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:FANzb.23566$o9.4420@fed1read07...
> > ok, so if someone abuses this charter, where can complaints be sent to?
> > Nick
>
>

 

I haven't see your other posts, I have Netscape setup to ignore the
crossposting threads.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Nick N wrote:
>
> I'm all into being an ***. I've worked hard at it today if you've seen my
> other messages.
> Nick