Possible Trolls?
12-20-2004, 02:00 PM
#31
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Re: Possible Trolls?
Hi John,
I was just making excuses for Americans that have no idea how big
engines run. This Hemi is a throw back of the heavy metal muscle cars of
the fifties. In considering the weight that makes these "new" vibrations
the poster can't understand, are the physical energies of centrifugal,
kinetic, and inertia, that can make a three ounce weight, out of place
on a tire, will lift the weight of that corner of that car off the
ground.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
John Davies wrote:
>
> Don't forget the weight of the connecting rod and wrist pin. Still not
> 12.5 pounds tho ;)
>
> John
>
> John Davies TLCA 14732
> http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> '96 Lexus LX450
> '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> Spokane WA USA
I was just making excuses for Americans that have no idea how big
engines run. This Hemi is a throw back of the heavy metal muscle cars of
the fifties. In considering the weight that makes these "new" vibrations
the poster can't understand, are the physical energies of centrifugal,
kinetic, and inertia, that can make a three ounce weight, out of place
on a tire, will lift the weight of that corner of that car off the
ground.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
John Davies wrote:
>
> Don't forget the weight of the connecting rod and wrist pin. Still not
> 12.5 pounds tho ;)
>
> John
>
> John Davies TLCA 14732
> http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> '96 Lexus LX450
> '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> Spokane WA USA
12-20-2004, 02:12 PM
#32
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Re: Possible Trolls?
Bill, the damn engine tries to run on 4 cylinders, then switches back to
8 when you give it gas!
They shut off the hydraulic lifters to 4 cylinders and collapse them
from lack of oil to save 3 mpg!
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/new-mopar-hemi.html
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi John,
> I was just making excuses for Americans that have no idea how big
> engines run. This Hemi is a throw back of the heavy metal muscle cars of
> the fifties. In considering the weight that makes these "new" vibrations
> the poster can't understand, are the physical energies of centrifugal,
> kinetic, and inertia, that can make a three ounce weight, out of place
> on a tire, will lift the weight of that corner of that car off the
> ground.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Davies wrote:
> >
> > Don't forget the weight of the connecting rod and wrist pin. Still not
> > 12.5 pounds tho ;)
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Davies TLCA 14732
> > http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> > '96 Lexus LX450
> > '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> > Spokane WA USA
8 when you give it gas!
They shut off the hydraulic lifters to 4 cylinders and collapse them
from lack of oil to save 3 mpg!
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/new-mopar-hemi.html
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi John,
> I was just making excuses for Americans that have no idea how big
> engines run. This Hemi is a throw back of the heavy metal muscle cars of
> the fifties. In considering the weight that makes these "new" vibrations
> the poster can't understand, are the physical energies of centrifugal,
> kinetic, and inertia, that can make a three ounce weight, out of place
> on a tire, will lift the weight of that corner of that car off the
> ground.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Davies wrote:
> >
> > Don't forget the weight of the connecting rod and wrist pin. Still not
> > 12.5 pounds tho ;)
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Davies TLCA 14732
> > http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> > '96 Lexus LX450
> > '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> > Spokane WA USA
12-20-2004, 02:12 PM
#33
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Re: Possible Trolls?
Bill, the damn engine tries to run on 4 cylinders, then switches back to
8 when you give it gas!
They shut off the hydraulic lifters to 4 cylinders and collapse them
from lack of oil to save 3 mpg!
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/new-mopar-hemi.html
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi John,
> I was just making excuses for Americans that have no idea how big
> engines run. This Hemi is a throw back of the heavy metal muscle cars of
> the fifties. In considering the weight that makes these "new" vibrations
> the poster can't understand, are the physical energies of centrifugal,
> kinetic, and inertia, that can make a three ounce weight, out of place
> on a tire, will lift the weight of that corner of that car off the
> ground.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Davies wrote:
> >
> > Don't forget the weight of the connecting rod and wrist pin. Still not
> > 12.5 pounds tho ;)
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Davies TLCA 14732
> > http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> > '96 Lexus LX450
> > '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> > Spokane WA USA
8 when you give it gas!
They shut off the hydraulic lifters to 4 cylinders and collapse them
from lack of oil to save 3 mpg!
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/new-mopar-hemi.html
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi John,
> I was just making excuses for Americans that have no idea how big
> engines run. This Hemi is a throw back of the heavy metal muscle cars of
> the fifties. In considering the weight that makes these "new" vibrations
> the poster can't understand, are the physical energies of centrifugal,
> kinetic, and inertia, that can make a three ounce weight, out of place
> on a tire, will lift the weight of that corner of that car off the
> ground.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Davies wrote:
> >
> > Don't forget the weight of the connecting rod and wrist pin. Still not
> > 12.5 pounds tho ;)
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Davies TLCA 14732
> > http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> > '96 Lexus LX450
> > '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> > Spokane WA USA
12-20-2004, 02:12 PM
#34
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Re: Possible Trolls?
Bill, the damn engine tries to run on 4 cylinders, then switches back to
8 when you give it gas!
They shut off the hydraulic lifters to 4 cylinders and collapse them
from lack of oil to save 3 mpg!
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/new-mopar-hemi.html
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi John,
> I was just making excuses for Americans that have no idea how big
> engines run. This Hemi is a throw back of the heavy metal muscle cars of
> the fifties. In considering the weight that makes these "new" vibrations
> the poster can't understand, are the physical energies of centrifugal,
> kinetic, and inertia, that can make a three ounce weight, out of place
> on a tire, will lift the weight of that corner of that car off the
> ground.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Davies wrote:
> >
> > Don't forget the weight of the connecting rod and wrist pin. Still not
> > 12.5 pounds tho ;)
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Davies TLCA 14732
> > http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> > '96 Lexus LX450
> > '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> > Spokane WA USA
8 when you give it gas!
They shut off the hydraulic lifters to 4 cylinders and collapse them
from lack of oil to save 3 mpg!
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/new-mopar-hemi.html
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi John,
> I was just making excuses for Americans that have no idea how big
> engines run. This Hemi is a throw back of the heavy metal muscle cars of
> the fifties. In considering the weight that makes these "new" vibrations
> the poster can't understand, are the physical energies of centrifugal,
> kinetic, and inertia, that can make a three ounce weight, out of place
> on a tire, will lift the weight of that corner of that car off the
> ground.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Davies wrote:
> >
> > Don't forget the weight of the connecting rod and wrist pin. Still not
> > 12.5 pounds tho ;)
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Davies TLCA 14732
> > http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> > '96 Lexus LX450
> > '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> > Spokane WA USA
12-20-2004, 02:27 PM
#35
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Re: Possible Trolls?
They are hooked to a "powder metal forged" rod it appears, which weights
27.6 ounces.I can't imaging a rocker, pushrod, spring or retainer weighs
more than a few ounces each. Given the push rod and piston is just over 2lb
a cylinder, do you really think the rest accounts for almost 84lbs ?
I'd be interested in seeing your breakdown figures.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41C68CA5.A904E7A6@***.net...
> Dave?
> Is the aluminum piston the only thing that stops and changes
> direction? aren't they hooked to a forged steel rod? Don't the lifters
> start and stop? Aren't they hooked to push rods, rockers, valves, valve
> springs, keepers, and retainers? for a total of seven hundred pounds.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > ??
> >
> > Hemi pistons weigh 413 grams, less than a lb each. Not 12.5 lb each.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
27.6 ounces.I can't imaging a rocker, pushrod, spring or retainer weighs
more than a few ounces each. Given the push rod and piston is just over 2lb
a cylinder, do you really think the rest accounts for almost 84lbs ?
I'd be interested in seeing your breakdown figures.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41C68CA5.A904E7A6@***.net...
> Dave?
> Is the aluminum piston the only thing that stops and changes
> direction? aren't they hooked to a forged steel rod? Don't the lifters
> start and stop? Aren't they hooked to push rods, rockers, valves, valve
> springs, keepers, and retainers? for a total of seven hundred pounds.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > ??
> >
> > Hemi pistons weigh 413 grams, less than a lb each. Not 12.5 lb each.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
12-20-2004, 02:27 PM
#36
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Re: Possible Trolls?
They are hooked to a "powder metal forged" rod it appears, which weights
27.6 ounces.I can't imaging a rocker, pushrod, spring or retainer weighs
more than a few ounces each. Given the push rod and piston is just over 2lb
a cylinder, do you really think the rest accounts for almost 84lbs ?
I'd be interested in seeing your breakdown figures.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41C68CA5.A904E7A6@***.net...
> Dave?
> Is the aluminum piston the only thing that stops and changes
> direction? aren't they hooked to a forged steel rod? Don't the lifters
> start and stop? Aren't they hooked to push rods, rockers, valves, valve
> springs, keepers, and retainers? for a total of seven hundred pounds.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > ??
> >
> > Hemi pistons weigh 413 grams, less than a lb each. Not 12.5 lb each.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
27.6 ounces.I can't imaging a rocker, pushrod, spring or retainer weighs
more than a few ounces each. Given the push rod and piston is just over 2lb
a cylinder, do you really think the rest accounts for almost 84lbs ?
I'd be interested in seeing your breakdown figures.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41C68CA5.A904E7A6@***.net...
> Dave?
> Is the aluminum piston the only thing that stops and changes
> direction? aren't they hooked to a forged steel rod? Don't the lifters
> start and stop? Aren't they hooked to push rods, rockers, valves, valve
> springs, keepers, and retainers? for a total of seven hundred pounds.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > ??
> >
> > Hemi pistons weigh 413 grams, less than a lb each. Not 12.5 lb each.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
12-20-2004, 02:27 PM
#37
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Re: Possible Trolls?
They are hooked to a "powder metal forged" rod it appears, which weights
27.6 ounces.I can't imaging a rocker, pushrod, spring or retainer weighs
more than a few ounces each. Given the push rod and piston is just over 2lb
a cylinder, do you really think the rest accounts for almost 84lbs ?
I'd be interested in seeing your breakdown figures.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41C68CA5.A904E7A6@***.net...
> Dave?
> Is the aluminum piston the only thing that stops and changes
> direction? aren't they hooked to a forged steel rod? Don't the lifters
> start and stop? Aren't they hooked to push rods, rockers, valves, valve
> springs, keepers, and retainers? for a total of seven hundred pounds.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > ??
> >
> > Hemi pistons weigh 413 grams, less than a lb each. Not 12.5 lb each.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
27.6 ounces.I can't imaging a rocker, pushrod, spring or retainer weighs
more than a few ounces each. Given the push rod and piston is just over 2lb
a cylinder, do you really think the rest accounts for almost 84lbs ?
I'd be interested in seeing your breakdown figures.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41C68CA5.A904E7A6@***.net...
> Dave?
> Is the aluminum piston the only thing that stops and changes
> direction? aren't they hooked to a forged steel rod? Don't the lifters
> start and stop? Aren't they hooked to push rods, rockers, valves, valve
> springs, keepers, and retainers? for a total of seven hundred pounds.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > ??
> >
> > Hemi pistons weigh 413 grams, less than a lb each. Not 12.5 lb each.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
12-20-2004, 02:32 PM
#38
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Re: Possible Trolls?
Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche, Aston Martin, Jaguar, TVR etc have no
problems making big engines run smoothly. I think you are being unfair to
American manufacturing by claiming they can't.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41C72137.C2AEC107@***.net...
> Hi John,
> I was just making excuses for Americans that have no idea how big
> engines run. This Hemi is a throw back of the heavy metal muscle cars of
> the fifties. In considering the weight that makes these "new" vibrations
> the poster can't understand, are the physical energies of centrifugal,
> kinetic, and inertia, that can make a three ounce weight, out of place
> on a tire, will lift the weight of that corner of that car off the
> ground.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Davies wrote:
> >
> > Don't forget the weight of the connecting rod and wrist pin. Still not
> > 12.5 pounds tho ;)
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Davies TLCA 14732
> > http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> > '96 Lexus LX450
> > '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> > Spokane WA USA
problems making big engines run smoothly. I think you are being unfair to
American manufacturing by claiming they can't.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41C72137.C2AEC107@***.net...
> Hi John,
> I was just making excuses for Americans that have no idea how big
> engines run. This Hemi is a throw back of the heavy metal muscle cars of
> the fifties. In considering the weight that makes these "new" vibrations
> the poster can't understand, are the physical energies of centrifugal,
> kinetic, and inertia, that can make a three ounce weight, out of place
> on a tire, will lift the weight of that corner of that car off the
> ground.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Davies wrote:
> >
> > Don't forget the weight of the connecting rod and wrist pin. Still not
> > 12.5 pounds tho ;)
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Davies TLCA 14732
> > http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> > '96 Lexus LX450
> > '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> > Spokane WA USA
12-20-2004, 02:32 PM
#39
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Re: Possible Trolls?
Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche, Aston Martin, Jaguar, TVR etc have no
problems making big engines run smoothly. I think you are being unfair to
American manufacturing by claiming they can't.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41C72137.C2AEC107@***.net...
> Hi John,
> I was just making excuses for Americans that have no idea how big
> engines run. This Hemi is a throw back of the heavy metal muscle cars of
> the fifties. In considering the weight that makes these "new" vibrations
> the poster can't understand, are the physical energies of centrifugal,
> kinetic, and inertia, that can make a three ounce weight, out of place
> on a tire, will lift the weight of that corner of that car off the
> ground.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Davies wrote:
> >
> > Don't forget the weight of the connecting rod and wrist pin. Still not
> > 12.5 pounds tho ;)
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Davies TLCA 14732
> > http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> > '96 Lexus LX450
> > '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> > Spokane WA USA
problems making big engines run smoothly. I think you are being unfair to
American manufacturing by claiming they can't.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41C72137.C2AEC107@***.net...
> Hi John,
> I was just making excuses for Americans that have no idea how big
> engines run. This Hemi is a throw back of the heavy metal muscle cars of
> the fifties. In considering the weight that makes these "new" vibrations
> the poster can't understand, are the physical energies of centrifugal,
> kinetic, and inertia, that can make a three ounce weight, out of place
> on a tire, will lift the weight of that corner of that car off the
> ground.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Davies wrote:
> >
> > Don't forget the weight of the connecting rod and wrist pin. Still not
> > 12.5 pounds tho ;)
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Davies TLCA 14732
> > http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> > '96 Lexus LX450
> > '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> > Spokane WA USA
12-20-2004, 02:32 PM
#40
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Re: Possible Trolls?
Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche, Aston Martin, Jaguar, TVR etc have no
problems making big engines run smoothly. I think you are being unfair to
American manufacturing by claiming they can't.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41C72137.C2AEC107@***.net...
> Hi John,
> I was just making excuses for Americans that have no idea how big
> engines run. This Hemi is a throw back of the heavy metal muscle cars of
> the fifties. In considering the weight that makes these "new" vibrations
> the poster can't understand, are the physical energies of centrifugal,
> kinetic, and inertia, that can make a three ounce weight, out of place
> on a tire, will lift the weight of that corner of that car off the
> ground.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Davies wrote:
> >
> > Don't forget the weight of the connecting rod and wrist pin. Still not
> > 12.5 pounds tho ;)
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Davies TLCA 14732
> > http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> > '96 Lexus LX450
> > '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> > Spokane WA USA
problems making big engines run smoothly. I think you are being unfair to
American manufacturing by claiming they can't.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41C72137.C2AEC107@***.net...
> Hi John,
> I was just making excuses for Americans that have no idea how big
> engines run. This Hemi is a throw back of the heavy metal muscle cars of
> the fifties. In considering the weight that makes these "new" vibrations
> the poster can't understand, are the physical energies of centrifugal,
> kinetic, and inertia, that can make a three ounce weight, out of place
> on a tire, will lift the weight of that corner of that car off the
> ground.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Davies wrote:
> >
> > Don't forget the weight of the connecting rod and wrist pin. Still not
> > 12.5 pounds tho ;)
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Davies TLCA 14732
> > http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> > '96 Lexus LX450
> > '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> > Spokane WA USA
