Possible to align door on TJ for better seal?
09-25-2004, 08:54 PM
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Re: Possible to align door on TJ for better seal?
I wouldn't add any caulking, that isn't the real fix and it'll just look
like hell. The last time I realigned my door I figured out what I that was
a pretty method. I latched the door and then loosened the hinges on one side
of each hinge just enough so the door could work its own way into the
position it liked... with a little help. It seemed to almost self-center
and being latched (closed all the way), the door didn't go wildly out of
alignment like it very easily can.
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Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
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"QV" <qv@qvnospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4155E3A9.9464EDC6@sympatico.ca...
>> Well.....
>>
>> Something isn't right. Have you had the roof off? If so, then likely
>> the alignment is off on the install. I can cover a bunch by a 1/8" or
>> less shift here and there or even just by changing the order of
>> tightening things down. You know, front first, back first. corner to
>> corner, side to side or start in the middle... If one part gets down
>> too tight too soon, it can interfere with other parts away in the other
>> corner fitting down properly.
>>
>> I would guess a full shift slightly to the drivers side on the top would
>> maybe do it. The other side is likely 'slightly' tighter than needed at
>> the seal. Maybe that side of the top was tightened down first so the
>> passenger side didn't quite pull down far enough? Sort of a teeter
>> totter effect across the front seal.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>
> That's good advice, but I should have mentioned that I had previously
> tried
> resetting the hardtop. Unfortunately I didn't have any luck - there's
> practically no tolerance in it's placement. The problem is that the
> passenger door (the bad one) is roughly 1/3" more forward than the
> driver's
> door resulting in a somewhat large gap at the upper corner of the door
> (near
> where the passenger's head would be) and a smaller gap between the door
> and
> the windshield. It's almost like the hinge or the frame around the window
> is
> slightly off spec.
>
> I was thinking that perhaps I could adjust a hinge, but to keep things
> simple, do you think I could just squirt some kind of caulking in the
> passenger corner of the hardtop?
>
> QV
>
>
like hell. The last time I realigned my door I figured out what I that was
a pretty method. I latched the door and then loosened the hinges on one side
of each hinge just enough so the door could work its own way into the
position it liked... with a little help. It seemed to almost self-center
and being latched (closed all the way), the door didn't go wildly out of
alignment like it very easily can.
--
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"QV" <qv@qvnospam.com> wrote in message
news:YCn5d.510043$M95.450638@pd7tw1no...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4155E3A9.9464EDC6@sympatico.ca...
>> Well.....
>>
>> Something isn't right. Have you had the roof off? If so, then likely
>> the alignment is off on the install. I can cover a bunch by a 1/8" or
>> less shift here and there or even just by changing the order of
>> tightening things down. You know, front first, back first. corner to
>> corner, side to side or start in the middle... If one part gets down
>> too tight too soon, it can interfere with other parts away in the other
>> corner fitting down properly.
>>
>> I would guess a full shift slightly to the drivers side on the top would
>> maybe do it. The other side is likely 'slightly' tighter than needed at
>> the seal. Maybe that side of the top was tightened down first so the
>> passenger side didn't quite pull down far enough? Sort of a teeter
>> totter effect across the front seal.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>
> That's good advice, but I should have mentioned that I had previously
> tried
> resetting the hardtop. Unfortunately I didn't have any luck - there's
> practically no tolerance in it's placement. The problem is that the
> passenger door (the bad one) is roughly 1/3" more forward than the
> driver's
> door resulting in a somewhat large gap at the upper corner of the door
> (near
> where the passenger's head would be) and a smaller gap between the door
> and
> the windshield. It's almost like the hinge or the frame around the window
> is
> slightly off spec.
>
> I was thinking that perhaps I could adjust a hinge, but to keep things
> simple, do you think I could just squirt some kind of caulking in the
> passenger corner of the hardtop?
>
> QV
>
>
09-25-2004, 08:54 PM
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Re: Possible to align door on TJ for better seal?
I wouldn't add any caulking, that isn't the real fix and it'll just look
like hell. The last time I realigned my door I figured out what I that was
a pretty method. I latched the door and then loosened the hinges on one side
of each hinge just enough so the door could work its own way into the
position it liked... with a little help. It seemed to almost self-center
and being latched (closed all the way), the door didn't go wildly out of
alignment like it very easily can.
--
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"QV" <qv@qvnospam.com> wrote in message
news:YCn5d.510043$M95.450638@pd7tw1no...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4155E3A9.9464EDC6@sympatico.ca...
>> Well.....
>>
>> Something isn't right. Have you had the roof off? If so, then likely
>> the alignment is off on the install. I can cover a bunch by a 1/8" or
>> less shift here and there or even just by changing the order of
>> tightening things down. You know, front first, back first. corner to
>> corner, side to side or start in the middle... If one part gets down
>> too tight too soon, it can interfere with other parts away in the other
>> corner fitting down properly.
>>
>> I would guess a full shift slightly to the drivers side on the top would
>> maybe do it. The other side is likely 'slightly' tighter than needed at
>> the seal. Maybe that side of the top was tightened down first so the
>> passenger side didn't quite pull down far enough? Sort of a teeter
>> totter effect across the front seal.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>
> That's good advice, but I should have mentioned that I had previously
> tried
> resetting the hardtop. Unfortunately I didn't have any luck - there's
> practically no tolerance in it's placement. The problem is that the
> passenger door (the bad one) is roughly 1/3" more forward than the
> driver's
> door resulting in a somewhat large gap at the upper corner of the door
> (near
> where the passenger's head would be) and a smaller gap between the door
> and
> the windshield. It's almost like the hinge or the frame around the window
> is
> slightly off spec.
>
> I was thinking that perhaps I could adjust a hinge, but to keep things
> simple, do you think I could just squirt some kind of caulking in the
> passenger corner of the hardtop?
>
> QV
>
>
like hell. The last time I realigned my door I figured out what I that was
a pretty method. I latched the door and then loosened the hinges on one side
of each hinge just enough so the door could work its own way into the
position it liked... with a little help. It seemed to almost self-center
and being latched (closed all the way), the door didn't go wildly out of
alignment like it very easily can.
--
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"QV" <qv@qvnospam.com> wrote in message
news:YCn5d.510043$M95.450638@pd7tw1no...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4155E3A9.9464EDC6@sympatico.ca...
>> Well.....
>>
>> Something isn't right. Have you had the roof off? If so, then likely
>> the alignment is off on the install. I can cover a bunch by a 1/8" or
>> less shift here and there or even just by changing the order of
>> tightening things down. You know, front first, back first. corner to
>> corner, side to side or start in the middle... If one part gets down
>> too tight too soon, it can interfere with other parts away in the other
>> corner fitting down properly.
>>
>> I would guess a full shift slightly to the drivers side on the top would
>> maybe do it. The other side is likely 'slightly' tighter than needed at
>> the seal. Maybe that side of the top was tightened down first so the
>> passenger side didn't quite pull down far enough? Sort of a teeter
>> totter effect across the front seal.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>
> That's good advice, but I should have mentioned that I had previously
> tried
> resetting the hardtop. Unfortunately I didn't have any luck - there's
> practically no tolerance in it's placement. The problem is that the
> passenger door (the bad one) is roughly 1/3" more forward than the
> driver's
> door resulting in a somewhat large gap at the upper corner of the door
> (near
> where the passenger's head would be) and a smaller gap between the door
> and
> the windshield. It's almost like the hinge or the frame around the window
> is
> slightly off spec.
>
> I was thinking that perhaps I could adjust a hinge, but to keep things
> simple, do you think I could just squirt some kind of caulking in the
> passenger corner of the hardtop?
>
> QV
>
>
09-25-2004, 08:54 PM
#13
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Re: Possible to align door on TJ for better seal?
I wouldn't add any caulking, that isn't the real fix and it'll just look
like hell. The last time I realigned my door I figured out what I that was
a pretty method. I latched the door and then loosened the hinges on one side
of each hinge just enough so the door could work its own way into the
position it liked... with a little help. It seemed to almost self-center
and being latched (closed all the way), the door didn't go wildly out of
alignment like it very easily can.
--
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"QV" <qv@qvnospam.com> wrote in message
news:YCn5d.510043$M95.450638@pd7tw1no...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4155E3A9.9464EDC6@sympatico.ca...
>> Well.....
>>
>> Something isn't right. Have you had the roof off? If so, then likely
>> the alignment is off on the install. I can cover a bunch by a 1/8" or
>> less shift here and there or even just by changing the order of
>> tightening things down. You know, front first, back first. corner to
>> corner, side to side or start in the middle... If one part gets down
>> too tight too soon, it can interfere with other parts away in the other
>> corner fitting down properly.
>>
>> I would guess a full shift slightly to the drivers side on the top would
>> maybe do it. The other side is likely 'slightly' tighter than needed at
>> the seal. Maybe that side of the top was tightened down first so the
>> passenger side didn't quite pull down far enough? Sort of a teeter
>> totter effect across the front seal.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>
> That's good advice, but I should have mentioned that I had previously
> tried
> resetting the hardtop. Unfortunately I didn't have any luck - there's
> practically no tolerance in it's placement. The problem is that the
> passenger door (the bad one) is roughly 1/3" more forward than the
> driver's
> door resulting in a somewhat large gap at the upper corner of the door
> (near
> where the passenger's head would be) and a smaller gap between the door
> and
> the windshield. It's almost like the hinge or the frame around the window
> is
> slightly off spec.
>
> I was thinking that perhaps I could adjust a hinge, but to keep things
> simple, do you think I could just squirt some kind of caulking in the
> passenger corner of the hardtop?
>
> QV
>
>
like hell. The last time I realigned my door I figured out what I that was
a pretty method. I latched the door and then loosened the hinges on one side
of each hinge just enough so the door could work its own way into the
position it liked... with a little help. It seemed to almost self-center
and being latched (closed all the way), the door didn't go wildly out of
alignment like it very easily can.
--
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"QV" <qv@qvnospam.com> wrote in message
news:YCn5d.510043$M95.450638@pd7tw1no...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4155E3A9.9464EDC6@sympatico.ca...
>> Well.....
>>
>> Something isn't right. Have you had the roof off? If so, then likely
>> the alignment is off on the install. I can cover a bunch by a 1/8" or
>> less shift here and there or even just by changing the order of
>> tightening things down. You know, front first, back first. corner to
>> corner, side to side or start in the middle... If one part gets down
>> too tight too soon, it can interfere with other parts away in the other
>> corner fitting down properly.
>>
>> I would guess a full shift slightly to the drivers side on the top would
>> maybe do it. The other side is likely 'slightly' tighter than needed at
>> the seal. Maybe that side of the top was tightened down first so the
>> passenger side didn't quite pull down far enough? Sort of a teeter
>> totter effect across the front seal.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>
> That's good advice, but I should have mentioned that I had previously
> tried
> resetting the hardtop. Unfortunately I didn't have any luck - there's
> practically no tolerance in it's placement. The problem is that the
> passenger door (the bad one) is roughly 1/3" more forward than the
> driver's
> door resulting in a somewhat large gap at the upper corner of the door
> (near
> where the passenger's head would be) and a smaller gap between the door
> and
> the windshield. It's almost like the hinge or the frame around the window
> is
> slightly off spec.
>
> I was thinking that perhaps I could adjust a hinge, but to keep things
> simple, do you think I could just squirt some kind of caulking in the
> passenger corner of the hardtop?
>
> QV
>
>
09-26-2004, 09:56 AM
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Re: Possible to align door on TJ for better seal?
"SteveBrady" <steve.brady@(remove this)rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Check the clamp thingys on the top of your windshield.
> Are they centered in the holes? I've found that things align fairly well
> when I tighten the clamps with them centered in the hole.
> Otherwise...as mike said, misaligned....
>
> Is the drivers door tight?
>
The driver's side is tight - no wind noise at all.
09-26-2004, 09:56 AM
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Re: Possible to align door on TJ for better seal?
"SteveBrady" <steve.brady@(remove this)rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Check the clamp thingys on the top of your windshield.
> Are they centered in the holes? I've found that things align fairly well
> when I tighten the clamps with them centered in the hole.
> Otherwise...as mike said, misaligned....
>
> Is the drivers door tight?
>
The driver's side is tight - no wind noise at all.
09-26-2004, 09:56 AM
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Re: Possible to align door on TJ for better seal?
"SteveBrady" <steve.brady@(remove this)rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Check the clamp thingys on the top of your windshield.
> Are they centered in the holes? I've found that things align fairly well
> when I tighten the clamps with them centered in the hole.
> Otherwise...as mike said, misaligned....
>
> Is the drivers door tight?
>
The driver's side is tight - no wind noise at all.
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