twaldron

I've got both and I'm not sure there IS any added legroom in an XJ!! :)

Dean wrote:

> I used to think I wouldn't need more rear leg space in my TJ too, then my son
> started growing like a weed. ;-) He's as tall as his mom and shows no sign of
> slowing down anytime soon. I've actually toyed with the idea of selling the TJ
> and building a Cherokee just for the added leg room.

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tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron

I've got both and I'm not sure there IS any added legroom in an XJ!! :)

Dean wrote:

> I used to think I wouldn't need more rear leg space in my TJ too, then my son
> started growing like a weed. ;-) He's as tall as his mom and shows no sign of
> slowing down anytime soon. I've actually toyed with the idea of selling the TJ
> and building a Cherokee just for the added leg room.

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__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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CRWLR

A pair of buckets will not fit in the back. Look at where the front seats
fit relative to the wheelwells now. You will notice that the amount that the
front seats are wider than the wheelwells is greater than the distance
between the seats. You will run into height issues as well.

The '01 TJs in the States have a switch that works by the ignition key to
bypass the airbag on the passenger side for exactly the reason you are
looking to add head rests to the back seat. The TJ is a truck, and is
available without the rear seat, therefore it is reasonable to assume that a
small child might need to ride in the front seat, so there is a bypass
switch that can be installed on earlier models that should work for yours.
It is a dealer-install item, and there is a form from the highway safety
people that needs to be completed.





"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:bv2nmc$con$2@news.wave.co.nz...
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:4014511c$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > I don't know about NZ, but they sell high back booster seats for kids in
> the
> > US. I would probably look into doing that. Adding a head support to
the
> > fold and tumble seat would be quite a project.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, but he is outgrowing the high back booster seat
> he is on. Our son is tall for his age and is beginning to outgrow
> (heightwise) all the seats we have looked at as replacement. Thus my
> question. I was even thinking about the possibility of having two front
> seats mounted in the back? Would/could they fit? We don't need to fold
> the back seat. Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> TW
>

CRWLR

A pair of buckets will not fit in the back. Look at where the front seats
fit relative to the wheelwells now. You will notice that the amount that the
front seats are wider than the wheelwells is greater than the distance
between the seats. You will run into height issues as well.

The '01 TJs in the States have a switch that works by the ignition key to
bypass the airbag on the passenger side for exactly the reason you are
looking to add head rests to the back seat. The TJ is a truck, and is
available without the rear seat, therefore it is reasonable to assume that a
small child might need to ride in the front seat, so there is a bypass
switch that can be installed on earlier models that should work for yours.
It is a dealer-install item, and there is a form from the highway safety
people that needs to be completed.





"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:bv2nmc$con$2@news.wave.co.nz...
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:4014511c$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > I don't know about NZ, but they sell high back booster seats for kids in
> the
> > US. I would probably look into doing that. Adding a head support to
the
> > fold and tumble seat would be quite a project.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, but he is outgrowing the high back booster seat
> he is on. Our son is tall for his age and is beginning to outgrow
> (heightwise) all the seats we have looked at as replacement. Thus my
> question. I was even thinking about the possibility of having two front
> seats mounted in the back? Would/could they fit? We don't need to fold
> the back seat. Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> TW
>

CRWLR

A pair of buckets will not fit in the back. Look at where the front seats
fit relative to the wheelwells now. You will notice that the amount that the
front seats are wider than the wheelwells is greater than the distance
between the seats. You will run into height issues as well.

The '01 TJs in the States have a switch that works by the ignition key to
bypass the airbag on the passenger side for exactly the reason you are
looking to add head rests to the back seat. The TJ is a truck, and is
available without the rear seat, therefore it is reasonable to assume that a
small child might need to ride in the front seat, so there is a bypass
switch that can be installed on earlier models that should work for yours.
It is a dealer-install item, and there is a form from the highway safety
people that needs to be completed.





"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:bv2nmc$con$2@news.wave.co.nz...
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:4014511c$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > I don't know about NZ, but they sell high back booster seats for kids in
> the
> > US. I would probably look into doing that. Adding a head support to
the
> > fold and tumble seat would be quite a project.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, but he is outgrowing the high back booster seat
> he is on. Our son is tall for his age and is beginning to outgrow
> (heightwise) all the seats we have looked at as replacement. Thus my
> question. I was even thinking about the possibility of having two front
> seats mounted in the back? Would/could they fit? We don't need to fold
> the back seat. Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> TW
>

TW

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:101b0s8tl651idf@corp.supernews.com...
> A pair of buckets will not fit in the back. Look at where the front seats
> fit relative to the wheelwells now. You will notice that the amount that
the
> front seats are wider than the wheelwells is greater than the distance
> between the seats. You will run into height issues as well.

Thanks for that. I actually did measure it today in the evening and
realised that I was not possible to fit front seats in the back. Perhaps I
can borrow some smaller car's seats in the back? I know that would look
ugly in terms of not all four seats matching in styling. I am just
bouncing off ideas.

>
> The '01 TJs in the States have a switch that works by the ignition key to
> bypass the airbag on the passenger side for exactly the reason you are
> looking to add head rests to the back seat. The TJ is a truck, and is
> available without the rear seat, therefore it is reasonable to assume
that a
> small child might need to ride in the front seat, so there is a bypass
> switch that can be installed on earlier models that should work for
yours.
> It is a dealer-install item, and there is a form from the highway safety
> people that needs to be completed.
>

I did check with the dealer and unfortunately it is not allowed in NZ to
have that switch installed. It is primarily available in US. Jeep has
developed a specification for each model for NZ market and all Wrangler
flavours have those similar features as standard (like all TJ
Renegades/Saharas have rear Dana 44). I'll try a different dealer and see
if I get a different answer.

Thanks
TW

TW

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:101b0s8tl651idf@corp.supernews.com...
> A pair of buckets will not fit in the back. Look at where the front seats
> fit relative to the wheelwells now. You will notice that the amount that
the
> front seats are wider than the wheelwells is greater than the distance
> between the seats. You will run into height issues as well.

Thanks for that. I actually did measure it today in the evening and
realised that I was not possible to fit front seats in the back. Perhaps I
can borrow some smaller car's seats in the back? I know that would look
ugly in terms of not all four seats matching in styling. I am just
bouncing off ideas.

>
> The '01 TJs in the States have a switch that works by the ignition key to
> bypass the airbag on the passenger side for exactly the reason you are
> looking to add head rests to the back seat. The TJ is a truck, and is
> available without the rear seat, therefore it is reasonable to assume
that a
> small child might need to ride in the front seat, so there is a bypass
> switch that can be installed on earlier models that should work for
yours.
> It is a dealer-install item, and there is a form from the highway safety
> people that needs to be completed.
>

I did check with the dealer and unfortunately it is not allowed in NZ to
have that switch installed. It is primarily available in US. Jeep has
developed a specification for each model for NZ market and all Wrangler
flavours have those similar features as standard (like all TJ
Renegades/Saharas have rear Dana 44). I'll try a different dealer and see
if I get a different answer.

Thanks
TW

TW

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:101b0s8tl651idf@corp.supernews.com...
> A pair of buckets will not fit in the back. Look at where the front seats
> fit relative to the wheelwells now. You will notice that the amount that
the
> front seats are wider than the wheelwells is greater than the distance
> between the seats. You will run into height issues as well.

Thanks for that. I actually did measure it today in the evening and
realised that I was not possible to fit front seats in the back. Perhaps I
can borrow some smaller car's seats in the back? I know that would look
ugly in terms of not all four seats matching in styling. I am just
bouncing off ideas.

>
> The '01 TJs in the States have a switch that works by the ignition key to
> bypass the airbag on the passenger side for exactly the reason you are
> looking to add head rests to the back seat. The TJ is a truck, and is
> available without the rear seat, therefore it is reasonable to assume
that a
> small child might need to ride in the front seat, so there is a bypass
> switch that can be installed on earlier models that should work for
yours.
> It is a dealer-install item, and there is a form from the highway safety
> people that needs to be completed.
>

I did check with the dealer and unfortunately it is not allowed in NZ to
have that switch installed. It is primarily available in US. Jeep has
developed a specification for each model for NZ market and all Wrangler
flavours have those similar features as standard (like all TJ
Renegades/Saharas have rear Dana 44). I'll try a different dealer and see
if I get a different answer.

Thanks
TW

TW

"Dean" <do.not.email.me@post.it.to.the.group.com> wrote in message
news:boba10hbgsgfnjnqj6qquc25lg3n5b6khf@4ax.com...
> I used to think I wouldn't need more rear leg space in my TJ too, then my
son
> started growing like a weed. ;-) He's as tall as his mom and shows no
sign of
> slowing down anytime soon. I've actually toyed with the idea of selling
the TJ
> and building a Cherokee just for the added leg room.
>
> Regards,
> Dean
>

Our son will be four next week and he is already tall enough to pass as a
lot older kid. Both my wife and I are tall, so its not a surprise about
our son. We had to move from a back facing seat at about four months
because he had no space for his legs (normally you move a child to front
facing at six months or older). We tried a Cherokee last year when we were
looking for something to buy, but didn't really notice that much more leg
space, just additional back doors for easy entry/exit. Oh well.. I'll
keep brainstorming.

Thanks,
TW

TW

"Dean" <do.not.email.me@post.it.to.the.group.com> wrote in message
news:boba10hbgsgfnjnqj6qquc25lg3n5b6khf@4ax.com...
> I used to think I wouldn't need more rear leg space in my TJ too, then my
son
> started growing like a weed. ;-) He's as tall as his mom and shows no
sign of
> slowing down anytime soon. I've actually toyed with the idea of selling
the TJ
> and building a Cherokee just for the added leg room.
>
> Regards,
> Dean
>

Our son will be four next week and he is already tall enough to pass as a
lot older kid. Both my wife and I are tall, so its not a surprise about
our son. We had to move from a back facing seat at about four months
because he had no space for his legs (normally you move a child to front
facing at six months or older). We tried a Cherokee last year when we were
looking for something to buy, but didn't really notice that much more leg
space, just additional back doors for easy entry/exit. Oh well.. I'll
keep brainstorming.

Thanks,
TW