Lee Ayrton

POR-15 wouldn't be the material to use over existing paint, you'd only
be wasting your money since the bond to the metal is only as good as the
underlying paint. If the paint peels or has rusty metal under it, POR
isn't going to make any difference. If you're going to drop money on
POR-15 put it on rusty metal, that's what it is designed to adhere to.

For the Rustoleum label warning -- they don't want you to use it on
galvanized _surfaces_. But you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be
applying it to the paint on top of the galvanizing.

I'm wondering, though, why you want to clear coat the inside of your TJ.
You won't be able to make it as nice as a factory paint application
-- if you spray from rattle-cans you'll get dull spots and overspray, if
you brush it on you'll get runs and sags on the upright surfaces. And,
if you get it looking really shiny you'll highlight any dirt and
scratches you get on it.


tjce wrote:
> I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>
> Thanks
>

Lee Ayrton

POR-15 wouldn't be the material to use over existing paint, you'd only
be wasting your money since the bond to the metal is only as good as the
underlying paint. If the paint peels or has rusty metal under it, POR
isn't going to make any difference. If you're going to drop money on
POR-15 put it on rusty metal, that's what it is designed to adhere to.

For the Rustoleum label warning -- they don't want you to use it on
galvanized _surfaces_. But you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be
applying it to the paint on top of the galvanizing.

I'm wondering, though, why you want to clear coat the inside of your TJ.
You won't be able to make it as nice as a factory paint application
-- if you spray from rattle-cans you'll get dull spots and overspray, if
you brush it on you'll get runs and sags on the upright surfaces. And,
if you get it looking really shiny you'll highlight any dirt and
scratches you get on it.


tjce wrote:
> I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>
> Thanks
>

Lee Ayrton

POR-15 wouldn't be the material to use over existing paint, you'd only
be wasting your money since the bond to the metal is only as good as the
underlying paint. If the paint peels or has rusty metal under it, POR
isn't going to make any difference. If you're going to drop money on
POR-15 put it on rusty metal, that's what it is designed to adhere to.

For the Rustoleum label warning -- they don't want you to use it on
galvanized _surfaces_. But you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be
applying it to the paint on top of the galvanizing.

I'm wondering, though, why you want to clear coat the inside of your TJ.
You won't be able to make it as nice as a factory paint application
-- if you spray from rattle-cans you'll get dull spots and overspray, if
you brush it on you'll get runs and sags on the upright surfaces. And,
if you get it looking really shiny you'll highlight any dirt and
scratches you get on it.


tjce wrote:
> I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>
> Thanks
>

Guest

I believe the POR can't be used on galvanized metal because it will ruin the
zinc coating.

"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dosdvq$j9t$1@reader1.panix.com...
>
> POR-15 wouldn't be the material to use over existing paint, you'd only be
> wasting your money since the bond to the metal is only as good as the
> underlying paint. If the paint peels or has rusty metal under it, POR
> isn't going to make any difference. If you're going to drop money on
> POR-15 put it on rusty metal, that's what it is designed to adhere to.
>
> For the Rustoleum label warning -- they don't want you to use it on
> galvanized _surfaces_. But you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be applying
> it to the paint on top of the galvanizing.
>
> I'm wondering, though, why you want to clear coat the inside of your TJ.
> You won't be able to make it as nice as a factory paint application -- if
> you spray from rattle-cans you'll get dull spots and overspray, if you
> brush it on you'll get runs and sags on the upright surfaces. And, if you
> get it looking really shiny you'll highlight any dirt and scratches you
> get on it.
>
>
> tjce wrote:
>> I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>
>> Thanks
>>

Guest

I believe the POR can't be used on galvanized metal because it will ruin the
zinc coating.

"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dosdvq$j9t$1@reader1.panix.com...
>
> POR-15 wouldn't be the material to use over existing paint, you'd only be
> wasting your money since the bond to the metal is only as good as the
> underlying paint. If the paint peels or has rusty metal under it, POR
> isn't going to make any difference. If you're going to drop money on
> POR-15 put it on rusty metal, that's what it is designed to adhere to.
>
> For the Rustoleum label warning -- they don't want you to use it on
> galvanized _surfaces_. But you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be applying
> it to the paint on top of the galvanizing.
>
> I'm wondering, though, why you want to clear coat the inside of your TJ.
> You won't be able to make it as nice as a factory paint application -- if
> you spray from rattle-cans you'll get dull spots and overspray, if you
> brush it on you'll get runs and sags on the upright surfaces. And, if you
> get it looking really shiny you'll highlight any dirt and scratches you
> get on it.
>
>
> tjce wrote:
>> I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>
>> Thanks
>>

Guest

I believe the POR can't be used on galvanized metal because it will ruin the
zinc coating.

"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dosdvq$j9t$1@reader1.panix.com...
>
> POR-15 wouldn't be the material to use over existing paint, you'd only be
> wasting your money since the bond to the metal is only as good as the
> underlying paint. If the paint peels or has rusty metal under it, POR
> isn't going to make any difference. If you're going to drop money on
> POR-15 put it on rusty metal, that's what it is designed to adhere to.
>
> For the Rustoleum label warning -- they don't want you to use it on
> galvanized _surfaces_. But you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be applying
> it to the paint on top of the galvanizing.
>
> I'm wondering, though, why you want to clear coat the inside of your TJ.
> You won't be able to make it as nice as a factory paint application -- if
> you spray from rattle-cans you'll get dull spots and overspray, if you
> brush it on you'll get runs and sags on the upright surfaces. And, if you
> get it looking really shiny you'll highlight any dirt and scratches you
> get on it.
>
>
> tjce wrote:
>> I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>
>> Thanks
>>

Lee Ayrton

POR-15's instructions recommend using their zinc phosphate prep coating
on new metal, aluminum and galvanized metal. See:
<URL:http://www.por15.com/technicalInfo.asp> under the "Application of
POR-15 to new metal" paragraph. My guess is that it is a "tooth" issue.
POR needs a certain minimum amount of surface roughness to stick to or
it will peel.


beebop3@earthlink.net wrote:
> I believe the POR can't be used on galvanized metal because it will ruin the
> zinc coating.
>
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:dosdvq$j9t$1@reader1.panix.com...
>
>>POR-15 wouldn't be the material to use over existing paint, you'd only be
>>wasting your money since the bond to the metal is only as good as the
>>underlying paint. If the paint peels or has rusty metal under it, POR
>>isn't going to make any difference. If you're going to drop money on
>>POR-15 put it on rusty metal, that's what it is designed to adhere to.
>>
>>For the Rustoleum label warning -- they don't want you to use it on
>>galvanized _surfaces_. But you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be applying
>>it to the paint on top of the galvanizing.
>>
>>I'm wondering, though, why you want to clear coat the inside of your TJ.
>>You won't be able to make it as nice as a factory paint application -- if
>>you spray from rattle-cans you'll get dull spots and overspray, if you
>>brush it on you'll get runs and sags on the upright surfaces. And, if you
>>get it looking really shiny you'll highlight any dirt and scratches you
>>get on it.
>>
>>
>>tjce wrote:
>>
>>>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>>>warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>>>Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>>>(I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>
>
>

Lee Ayrton

POR-15's instructions recommend using their zinc phosphate prep coating
on new metal, aluminum and galvanized metal. See:
<URL:http://www.por15.com/technicalInfo.asp> under the "Application of
POR-15 to new metal" paragraph. My guess is that it is a "tooth" issue.
POR needs a certain minimum amount of surface roughness to stick to or
it will peel.


beebop3@earthlink.net wrote:
> I believe the POR can't be used on galvanized metal because it will ruin the
> zinc coating.
>
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:dosdvq$j9t$1@reader1.panix.com...
>
>>POR-15 wouldn't be the material to use over existing paint, you'd only be
>>wasting your money since the bond to the metal is only as good as the
>>underlying paint. If the paint peels or has rusty metal under it, POR
>>isn't going to make any difference. If you're going to drop money on
>>POR-15 put it on rusty metal, that's what it is designed to adhere to.
>>
>>For the Rustoleum label warning -- they don't want you to use it on
>>galvanized _surfaces_. But you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be applying
>>it to the paint on top of the galvanizing.
>>
>>I'm wondering, though, why you want to clear coat the inside of your TJ.
>>You won't be able to make it as nice as a factory paint application -- if
>>you spray from rattle-cans you'll get dull spots and overspray, if you
>>brush it on you'll get runs and sags on the upright surfaces. And, if you
>>get it looking really shiny you'll highlight any dirt and scratches you
>>get on it.
>>
>>
>>tjce wrote:
>>
>>>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>>>warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>>>Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>>>(I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>
>
>

Lee Ayrton

POR-15's instructions recommend using their zinc phosphate prep coating
on new metal, aluminum and galvanized metal. See:
<URL:http://www.por15.com/technicalInfo.asp> under the "Application of
POR-15 to new metal" paragraph. My guess is that it is a "tooth" issue.
POR needs a certain minimum amount of surface roughness to stick to or
it will peel.


beebop3@earthlink.net wrote:
> I believe the POR can't be used on galvanized metal because it will ruin the
> zinc coating.
>
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:dosdvq$j9t$1@reader1.panix.com...
>
>>POR-15 wouldn't be the material to use over existing paint, you'd only be
>>wasting your money since the bond to the metal is only as good as the
>>underlying paint. If the paint peels or has rusty metal under it, POR
>>isn't going to make any difference. If you're going to drop money on
>>POR-15 put it on rusty metal, that's what it is designed to adhere to.
>>
>>For the Rustoleum label warning -- they don't want you to use it on
>>galvanized _surfaces_. But you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be applying
>>it to the paint on top of the galvanizing.
>>
>>I'm wondering, though, why you want to clear coat the inside of your TJ.
>>You won't be able to make it as nice as a factory paint application -- if
>>you spray from rattle-cans you'll get dull spots and overspray, if you
>>brush it on you'll get runs and sags on the upright surfaces. And, if you
>>get it looking really shiny you'll highlight any dirt and scratches you
>>get on it.
>>
>>
>>tjce wrote:
>>
>>>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>>>warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>>>Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>>>(I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>
>
>

Drink

I second Coasty's bedliner recommendation. Did mine and love it. Over
the years, you'll probably be glad you did. Would never consider spray cans
for a job you care about. If you want to go the extra mile for a car
show-like upgrade, though, I'd take it to a professional (RhinoLiner or the
others) and have them spray it instead of rolling it in at home (which isn't
hard at all). They can spray on whatever thickness you desire, the edges
will be like the edges of many trucks you see, and they can mix different
colors that match or contrast your paint or interior. Heck, if they've got
left over, they'll probably offer to make a permanent bra or edges. Just
let your imagination roam, just don't get crazy:)
Jim

"Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Iq-dnc0QUp0X4yzenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>I used this
> http://www.herculiner.com/
>
> Coasty
>
> "tjce" <spa83405@allstate.com> wrote in message
> news:1135701544.336223.18710@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>I went to wal mart and found clear rustoleum enamel but the first
>> warning on it is to not use it on galvanized metal
>> Isn't the whole tub of a tj galvanized metal?
>> (I want the original paint to still be visible)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>