Pop-up Camper with 99 TJ
06-09-2005, 06:33 PM
#11
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Re: Pop-up Camper with 99 TJ
The real issue isn't ifthe TJ can pull the camper its will the camper
can swing the TJ during emergency manuvers. The TJ is a short wheel
base vehicle and a camper can be improperly loaded and start swaying
from passing trucks, dumb drivers cutting you off, etc. I suggest you
consider taking this question to the RV forum rec.outdoors.rv-travel.
They have answered it many times with real world experience.
can swing the TJ during emergency manuvers. The TJ is a short wheel
base vehicle and a camper can be improperly loaded and start swaying
from passing trucks, dumb drivers cutting you off, etc. I suggest you
consider taking this question to the RV forum rec.outdoors.rv-travel.
They have answered it many times with real world experience.
06-09-2005, 06:33 PM
#12
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Re: Pop-up Camper with 99 TJ
The real issue isn't ifthe TJ can pull the camper its will the camper
can swing the TJ during emergency manuvers. The TJ is a short wheel
base vehicle and a camper can be improperly loaded and start swaying
from passing trucks, dumb drivers cutting you off, etc. I suggest you
consider taking this question to the RV forum rec.outdoors.rv-travel.
They have answered it many times with real world experience.
can swing the TJ during emergency manuvers. The TJ is a short wheel
base vehicle and a camper can be improperly loaded and start swaying
from passing trucks, dumb drivers cutting you off, etc. I suggest you
consider taking this question to the RV forum rec.outdoors.rv-travel.
They have answered it many times with real world experience.
06-09-2005, 06:33 PM
#13
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Re: Pop-up Camper with 99 TJ
The real issue isn't ifthe TJ can pull the camper its will the camper
can swing the TJ during emergency manuvers. The TJ is a short wheel
base vehicle and a camper can be improperly loaded and start swaying
from passing trucks, dumb drivers cutting you off, etc. I suggest you
consider taking this question to the RV forum rec.outdoors.rv-travel.
They have answered it many times with real world experience.
can swing the TJ during emergency manuvers. The TJ is a short wheel
base vehicle and a camper can be improperly loaded and start swaying
from passing trucks, dumb drivers cutting you off, etc. I suggest you
consider taking this question to the RV forum rec.outdoors.rv-travel.
They have answered it many times with real world experience.
06-09-2005, 06:46 PM
#14
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Re: Pop-up Camper with 99 TJ
With a tow package that I would bet would include a Real Dana 44
rear end:
http://trailmanor.com/WebDocs/Campin...hModels=Go+%3E
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, that is only with the new lighter 2.4 engine I believe.
>
> I think the 2.5 was still ok up to the 2000 lb. Could be wrong, but....
>
> To the OP, just don't lug the engine, that sucks gas and is hard on
> parts. If you keep it in it's sweet spot for rpm and don't tailgate you
> should be fine.
>
> The 2.5 is geared good enough that I have been on highway trips to get
> there and runs with them and I didn't know until I was shown later on
> that they 'only' had a 4 banger.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
rear end:
http://trailmanor.com/WebDocs/Campin...hModels=Go+%3E
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, that is only with the new lighter 2.4 engine I believe.
>
> I think the 2.5 was still ok up to the 2000 lb. Could be wrong, but....
>
> To the OP, just don't lug the engine, that sucks gas and is hard on
> parts. If you keep it in it's sweet spot for rpm and don't tailgate you
> should be fine.
>
> The 2.5 is geared good enough that I have been on highway trips to get
> there and runs with them and I didn't know until I was shown later on
> that they 'only' had a 4 banger.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
06-09-2005, 06:46 PM
#15
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Re: Pop-up Camper with 99 TJ
With a tow package that I would bet would include a Real Dana 44
rear end:
http://trailmanor.com/WebDocs/Campin...hModels=Go+%3E
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, that is only with the new lighter 2.4 engine I believe.
>
> I think the 2.5 was still ok up to the 2000 lb. Could be wrong, but....
>
> To the OP, just don't lug the engine, that sucks gas and is hard on
> parts. If you keep it in it's sweet spot for rpm and don't tailgate you
> should be fine.
>
> The 2.5 is geared good enough that I have been on highway trips to get
> there and runs with them and I didn't know until I was shown later on
> that they 'only' had a 4 banger.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
rear end:
http://trailmanor.com/WebDocs/Campin...hModels=Go+%3E
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, that is only with the new lighter 2.4 engine I believe.
>
> I think the 2.5 was still ok up to the 2000 lb. Could be wrong, but....
>
> To the OP, just don't lug the engine, that sucks gas and is hard on
> parts. If you keep it in it's sweet spot for rpm and don't tailgate you
> should be fine.
>
> The 2.5 is geared good enough that I have been on highway trips to get
> there and runs with them and I didn't know until I was shown later on
> that they 'only' had a 4 banger.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
06-09-2005, 06:46 PM
#16
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Re: Pop-up Camper with 99 TJ
With a tow package that I would bet would include a Real Dana 44
rear end:
http://trailmanor.com/WebDocs/Campin...hModels=Go+%3E
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, that is only with the new lighter 2.4 engine I believe.
>
> I think the 2.5 was still ok up to the 2000 lb. Could be wrong, but....
>
> To the OP, just don't lug the engine, that sucks gas and is hard on
> parts. If you keep it in it's sweet spot for rpm and don't tailgate you
> should be fine.
>
> The 2.5 is geared good enough that I have been on highway trips to get
> there and runs with them and I didn't know until I was shown later on
> that they 'only' had a 4 banger.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
rear end:
http://trailmanor.com/WebDocs/Campin...hModels=Go+%3E
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, that is only with the new lighter 2.4 engine I believe.
>
> I think the 2.5 was still ok up to the 2000 lb. Could be wrong, but....
>
> To the OP, just don't lug the engine, that sucks gas and is hard on
> parts. If you keep it in it's sweet spot for rpm and don't tailgate you
> should be fine.
>
> The 2.5 is geared good enough that I have been on highway trips to get
> there and runs with them and I didn't know until I was shown later on
> that they 'only' had a 4 banger.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
06-09-2005, 06:46 PM
#17
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Re: Pop-up Camper with 99 TJ
With a tow package that I would bet would include a Real Dana 44
rear end:
http://trailmanor.com/WebDocs/Campin...hModels=Go+%3E
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, that is only with the new lighter 2.4 engine I believe.
>
> I think the 2.5 was still ok up to the 2000 lb. Could be wrong, but....
>
> To the OP, just don't lug the engine, that sucks gas and is hard on
> parts. If you keep it in it's sweet spot for rpm and don't tailgate you
> should be fine.
>
> The 2.5 is geared good enough that I have been on highway trips to get
> there and runs with them and I didn't know until I was shown later on
> that they 'only' had a 4 banger.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
rear end:
http://trailmanor.com/WebDocs/Campin...hModels=Go+%3E
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, that is only with the new lighter 2.4 engine I believe.
>
> I think the 2.5 was still ok up to the 2000 lb. Could be wrong, but....
>
> To the OP, just don't lug the engine, that sucks gas and is hard on
> parts. If you keep it in it's sweet spot for rpm and don't tailgate you
> should be fine.
>
> The 2.5 is geared good enough that I have been on highway trips to get
> there and runs with them and I didn't know until I was shown later on
> that they 'only' had a 4 banger.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
06-09-2005, 07:50 PM
#18
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Re: Pop-up Camper with 99 TJ
Hi Gene,
I respect Bill and Mike's comments regarding the 2.5L and the trailer.
But, I got to tell you the real deal based on my experience. I have a 91
4.0L YJ and a 13 ft Jayco pop-up. I've yanked that thing all over the US
including coast to coast at least three times since 1994 when I first bought
the trailer. I always pack it up with everything I need for the trip or
campsite. I've never had it weighed when packed, but I'm reasonable sure
I've never exceeded 2000 lbs. Bottom line is that I've struggled pulling
that thing and have made several mods to my Jeep in order to gain additional
capability. When it was stock, I would'nt haul that thing any more than a
couple of hundred miles. The 4.0L just wasn't up to the task. I added a
high lift cam and headers to the motor, a free flowing exhaust system, re-
geared to 4.10s for my 33X12.5 tires and finally got to a point I was happy
with the Jeep's performance while hauling the trailer, with three teenagers
to boot. I like to keep speed and have hauled that thing up to 80mph on the
straight out. No wagging the dog either. On the hills -- I mean little
hills -- it still struggles and gas mileage drops significantly to around
10-13mph. I am comfortable enough knowing that my Jeep can pull that thing
for most anything I want to do, barely. I have serious doubts that your
2.5L is up to the task beyond a few hundred miles in minimum traffic. When
rigged and loaded right your Jeep will pull that trailer in a very stable
manner. I'm convinced though, that you won't be pleased with the 2.5L
performance and may even become discussed with the outcome. Bottomline --
go for it and if your disappointed, well all I can say is either live with
your decision or get a vehicle more suitable to your desires.
v/r
Scott
91YJ w/fixins
"Gene Pool" <Aladdin53@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:18069-42A8A56A-191@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net...
>I am sorry for the confusion most of it brought on by my vauge post. I
> am wondering if a 99 TJ 4-cyl 5 speed 2.5 would pull a pop-up camper? I
> am in the midwest and have no plans to go thru the mountains or anything
> like that. Mostly Interstate traveling and occasionally rolling hills.
> Thank you all for your responses. If I read the owners manuel right I am
> OK up to 2000 lbs.
>
I respect Bill and Mike's comments regarding the 2.5L and the trailer.
But, I got to tell you the real deal based on my experience. I have a 91
4.0L YJ and a 13 ft Jayco pop-up. I've yanked that thing all over the US
including coast to coast at least three times since 1994 when I first bought
the trailer. I always pack it up with everything I need for the trip or
campsite. I've never had it weighed when packed, but I'm reasonable sure
I've never exceeded 2000 lbs. Bottom line is that I've struggled pulling
that thing and have made several mods to my Jeep in order to gain additional
capability. When it was stock, I would'nt haul that thing any more than a
couple of hundred miles. The 4.0L just wasn't up to the task. I added a
high lift cam and headers to the motor, a free flowing exhaust system, re-
geared to 4.10s for my 33X12.5 tires and finally got to a point I was happy
with the Jeep's performance while hauling the trailer, with three teenagers
to boot. I like to keep speed and have hauled that thing up to 80mph on the
straight out. No wagging the dog either. On the hills -- I mean little
hills -- it still struggles and gas mileage drops significantly to around
10-13mph. I am comfortable enough knowing that my Jeep can pull that thing
for most anything I want to do, barely. I have serious doubts that your
2.5L is up to the task beyond a few hundred miles in minimum traffic. When
rigged and loaded right your Jeep will pull that trailer in a very stable
manner. I'm convinced though, that you won't be pleased with the 2.5L
performance and may even become discussed with the outcome. Bottomline --
go for it and if your disappointed, well all I can say is either live with
your decision or get a vehicle more suitable to your desires.
v/r
Scott
91YJ w/fixins
"Gene Pool" <Aladdin53@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:18069-42A8A56A-191@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net...
>I am sorry for the confusion most of it brought on by my vauge post. I
> am wondering if a 99 TJ 4-cyl 5 speed 2.5 would pull a pop-up camper? I
> am in the midwest and have no plans to go thru the mountains or anything
> like that. Mostly Interstate traveling and occasionally rolling hills.
> Thank you all for your responses. If I read the owners manuel right I am
> OK up to 2000 lbs.
>
06-09-2005, 07:50 PM
#19
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Re: Pop-up Camper with 99 TJ
Hi Gene,
I respect Bill and Mike's comments regarding the 2.5L and the trailer.
But, I got to tell you the real deal based on my experience. I have a 91
4.0L YJ and a 13 ft Jayco pop-up. I've yanked that thing all over the US
including coast to coast at least three times since 1994 when I first bought
the trailer. I always pack it up with everything I need for the trip or
campsite. I've never had it weighed when packed, but I'm reasonable sure
I've never exceeded 2000 lbs. Bottom line is that I've struggled pulling
that thing and have made several mods to my Jeep in order to gain additional
capability. When it was stock, I would'nt haul that thing any more than a
couple of hundred miles. The 4.0L just wasn't up to the task. I added a
high lift cam and headers to the motor, a free flowing exhaust system, re-
geared to 4.10s for my 33X12.5 tires and finally got to a point I was happy
with the Jeep's performance while hauling the trailer, with three teenagers
to boot. I like to keep speed and have hauled that thing up to 80mph on the
straight out. No wagging the dog either. On the hills -- I mean little
hills -- it still struggles and gas mileage drops significantly to around
10-13mph. I am comfortable enough knowing that my Jeep can pull that thing
for most anything I want to do, barely. I have serious doubts that your
2.5L is up to the task beyond a few hundred miles in minimum traffic. When
rigged and loaded right your Jeep will pull that trailer in a very stable
manner. I'm convinced though, that you won't be pleased with the 2.5L
performance and may even become discussed with the outcome. Bottomline --
go for it and if your disappointed, well all I can say is either live with
your decision or get a vehicle more suitable to your desires.
v/r
Scott
91YJ w/fixins
"Gene Pool" <Aladdin53@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:18069-42A8A56A-191@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net...
>I am sorry for the confusion most of it brought on by my vauge post. I
> am wondering if a 99 TJ 4-cyl 5 speed 2.5 would pull a pop-up camper? I
> am in the midwest and have no plans to go thru the mountains or anything
> like that. Mostly Interstate traveling and occasionally rolling hills.
> Thank you all for your responses. If I read the owners manuel right I am
> OK up to 2000 lbs.
>
I respect Bill and Mike's comments regarding the 2.5L and the trailer.
But, I got to tell you the real deal based on my experience. I have a 91
4.0L YJ and a 13 ft Jayco pop-up. I've yanked that thing all over the US
including coast to coast at least three times since 1994 when I first bought
the trailer. I always pack it up with everything I need for the trip or
campsite. I've never had it weighed when packed, but I'm reasonable sure
I've never exceeded 2000 lbs. Bottom line is that I've struggled pulling
that thing and have made several mods to my Jeep in order to gain additional
capability. When it was stock, I would'nt haul that thing any more than a
couple of hundred miles. The 4.0L just wasn't up to the task. I added a
high lift cam and headers to the motor, a free flowing exhaust system, re-
geared to 4.10s for my 33X12.5 tires and finally got to a point I was happy
with the Jeep's performance while hauling the trailer, with three teenagers
to boot. I like to keep speed and have hauled that thing up to 80mph on the
straight out. No wagging the dog either. On the hills -- I mean little
hills -- it still struggles and gas mileage drops significantly to around
10-13mph. I am comfortable enough knowing that my Jeep can pull that thing
for most anything I want to do, barely. I have serious doubts that your
2.5L is up to the task beyond a few hundred miles in minimum traffic. When
rigged and loaded right your Jeep will pull that trailer in a very stable
manner. I'm convinced though, that you won't be pleased with the 2.5L
performance and may even become discussed with the outcome. Bottomline --
go for it and if your disappointed, well all I can say is either live with
your decision or get a vehicle more suitable to your desires.
v/r
Scott
91YJ w/fixins
"Gene Pool" <Aladdin53@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:18069-42A8A56A-191@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net...
>I am sorry for the confusion most of it brought on by my vauge post. I
> am wondering if a 99 TJ 4-cyl 5 speed 2.5 would pull a pop-up camper? I
> am in the midwest and have no plans to go thru the mountains or anything
> like that. Mostly Interstate traveling and occasionally rolling hills.
> Thank you all for your responses. If I read the owners manuel right I am
> OK up to 2000 lbs.
>
06-09-2005, 07:50 PM
#20
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Re: Pop-up Camper with 99 TJ
Hi Gene,
I respect Bill and Mike's comments regarding the 2.5L and the trailer.
But, I got to tell you the real deal based on my experience. I have a 91
4.0L YJ and a 13 ft Jayco pop-up. I've yanked that thing all over the US
including coast to coast at least three times since 1994 when I first bought
the trailer. I always pack it up with everything I need for the trip or
campsite. I've never had it weighed when packed, but I'm reasonable sure
I've never exceeded 2000 lbs. Bottom line is that I've struggled pulling
that thing and have made several mods to my Jeep in order to gain additional
capability. When it was stock, I would'nt haul that thing any more than a
couple of hundred miles. The 4.0L just wasn't up to the task. I added a
high lift cam and headers to the motor, a free flowing exhaust system, re-
geared to 4.10s for my 33X12.5 tires and finally got to a point I was happy
with the Jeep's performance while hauling the trailer, with three teenagers
to boot. I like to keep speed and have hauled that thing up to 80mph on the
straight out. No wagging the dog either. On the hills -- I mean little
hills -- it still struggles and gas mileage drops significantly to around
10-13mph. I am comfortable enough knowing that my Jeep can pull that thing
for most anything I want to do, barely. I have serious doubts that your
2.5L is up to the task beyond a few hundred miles in minimum traffic. When
rigged and loaded right your Jeep will pull that trailer in a very stable
manner. I'm convinced though, that you won't be pleased with the 2.5L
performance and may even become discussed with the outcome. Bottomline --
go for it and if your disappointed, well all I can say is either live with
your decision or get a vehicle more suitable to your desires.
v/r
Scott
91YJ w/fixins
"Gene Pool" <Aladdin53@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:18069-42A8A56A-191@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net...
>I am sorry for the confusion most of it brought on by my vauge post. I
> am wondering if a 99 TJ 4-cyl 5 speed 2.5 would pull a pop-up camper? I
> am in the midwest and have no plans to go thru the mountains or anything
> like that. Mostly Interstate traveling and occasionally rolling hills.
> Thank you all for your responses. If I read the owners manuel right I am
> OK up to 2000 lbs.
>
I respect Bill and Mike's comments regarding the 2.5L and the trailer.
But, I got to tell you the real deal based on my experience. I have a 91
4.0L YJ and a 13 ft Jayco pop-up. I've yanked that thing all over the US
including coast to coast at least three times since 1994 when I first bought
the trailer. I always pack it up with everything I need for the trip or
campsite. I've never had it weighed when packed, but I'm reasonable sure
I've never exceeded 2000 lbs. Bottom line is that I've struggled pulling
that thing and have made several mods to my Jeep in order to gain additional
capability. When it was stock, I would'nt haul that thing any more than a
couple of hundred miles. The 4.0L just wasn't up to the task. I added a
high lift cam and headers to the motor, a free flowing exhaust system, re-
geared to 4.10s for my 33X12.5 tires and finally got to a point I was happy
with the Jeep's performance while hauling the trailer, with three teenagers
to boot. I like to keep speed and have hauled that thing up to 80mph on the
straight out. No wagging the dog either. On the hills -- I mean little
hills -- it still struggles and gas mileage drops significantly to around
10-13mph. I am comfortable enough knowing that my Jeep can pull that thing
for most anything I want to do, barely. I have serious doubts that your
2.5L is up to the task beyond a few hundred miles in minimum traffic. When
rigged and loaded right your Jeep will pull that trailer in a very stable
manner. I'm convinced though, that you won't be pleased with the 2.5L
performance and may even become discussed with the outcome. Bottomline --
go for it and if your disappointed, well all I can say is either live with
your decision or get a vehicle more suitable to your desires.
v/r
Scott
91YJ w/fixins
"Gene Pool" <Aladdin53@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:18069-42A8A56A-191@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net...
>I am sorry for the confusion most of it brought on by my vauge post. I
> am wondering if a 99 TJ 4-cyl 5 speed 2.5 would pull a pop-up camper? I
> am in the midwest and have no plans to go thru the mountains or anything
> like that. Mostly Interstate traveling and occasionally rolling hills.
> Thank you all for your responses. If I read the owners manuel right I am
> OK up to 2000 lbs.
>