poor shifting
 

Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
alot easier.

Any ideas?
Thanks!

Re: poor shifting
 

I had rough shifting on my AX-15 trans. Switched from API GL-5 oil to
GM Synchromesh. Significant improvement, especially when cold. Also
available as Pennzoil Synchromesh: same as the GM stuff but cheaper:

http://www.pennzoil.com/products/gea...cro_fluid.html

The AX-15 has sintered brass synchros that don't tolerate sulfur in
regular GL-5 90 weight oil. Better to use API GL-3 rated lubes like
Synchromesh or Red Line MTL.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Mythic wrote:
> Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
> from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
> alot easier.
>
> Any ideas?
> Thanks!

Re: poor shifting
 

I had rough shifting on my AX-15 trans. Switched from API GL-5 oil to
GM Synchromesh. Significant improvement, especially when cold. Also
available as Pennzoil Synchromesh: same as the GM stuff but cheaper:

http://www.pennzoil.com/products/gea...cro_fluid.html

The AX-15 has sintered brass synchros that don't tolerate sulfur in
regular GL-5 90 weight oil. Better to use API GL-3 rated lubes like
Synchromesh or Red Line MTL.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Mythic wrote:
> Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
> from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
> alot easier.
>
> Any ideas?
> Thanks!

Re: poor shifting
 

I had rough shifting on my AX-15 trans. Switched from API GL-5 oil to
GM Synchromesh. Significant improvement, especially when cold. Also
available as Pennzoil Synchromesh: same as the GM stuff but cheaper:

http://www.pennzoil.com/products/gea...cro_fluid.html

The AX-15 has sintered brass synchros that don't tolerate sulfur in
regular GL-5 90 weight oil. Better to use API GL-3 rated lubes like
Synchromesh or Red Line MTL.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Mythic wrote:
> Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
> from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
> alot easier.
>
> Any ideas?
> Thanks!

Re: poor shifting
 

I had rough shifting on my AX-15 trans. Switched from API GL-5 oil to
GM Synchromesh. Significant improvement, especially when cold. Also
available as Pennzoil Synchromesh: same as the GM stuff but cheaper:

http://www.pennzoil.com/products/gea...cro_fluid.html

The AX-15 has sintered brass synchros that don't tolerate sulfur in
regular GL-5 90 weight oil. Better to use API GL-3 rated lubes like
Synchromesh or Red Line MTL.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Mythic wrote:
> Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
> from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
> alot easier.
>
> Any ideas?
> Thanks!

Re: poor shifting
 

Mythic did pass the time by typing:
> Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
> from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
> alot easier.
>
> Any ideas?

Yep, let it warm up. :)

....

couldn't resist.

--
DougW

Re: poor shifting
 

Mythic did pass the time by typing:
> Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
> from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
> alot easier.
>
> Any ideas?

Yep, let it warm up. :)

....

couldn't resist.

--
DougW

Re: poor shifting
 

Mythic did pass the time by typing:
> Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
> from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
> alot easier.
>
> Any ideas?

Yep, let it warm up. :)

....

couldn't resist.

--
DougW

Re: poor shifting
 

Mythic did pass the time by typing:
> Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
> from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
> alot easier.
>
> Any ideas?

Yep, let it warm up. :)

....

couldn't resist.

--
DougW

Re: poor shifting
 

Mine was doing that and is now at the Tranny shop getting new
syncronizers...warranty can be a wonderful thing...
Jeff
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:vBDge.106096$3V3.102035@edtnps89...
>I had rough shifting on my AX-15 trans. Switched from API GL-5 oil to
> GM Synchromesh. Significant improvement, especially when cold. Also
> available as Pennzoil Synchromesh: same as the GM stuff but cheaper:
>
> http://www.pennzoil.com/products/gea...cro_fluid.html
>
> The AX-15 has sintered brass synchros that don't tolerate sulfur in
> regular GL-5 90 weight oil. Better to use API GL-3 rated lubes like
> Synchromesh or Red Line MTL.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> Mythic wrote:
>> Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
>> from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts alot
>> easier.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>> Thanks!

Re: poor shifting
 

Mine was doing that and is now at the Tranny shop getting new
syncronizers...warranty can be a wonderful thing...
Jeff
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:vBDge.106096$3V3.102035@edtnps89...
>I had rough shifting on my AX-15 trans. Switched from API GL-5 oil to
> GM Synchromesh. Significant improvement, especially when cold. Also
> available as Pennzoil Synchromesh: same as the GM stuff but cheaper:
>
> http://www.pennzoil.com/products/gea...cro_fluid.html
>
> The AX-15 has sintered brass synchros that don't tolerate sulfur in
> regular GL-5 90 weight oil. Better to use API GL-3 rated lubes like
> Synchromesh or Red Line MTL.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> Mythic wrote:
>> Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
>> from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts alot
>> easier.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>> Thanks!

Re: poor shifting
 

Mine was doing that and is now at the Tranny shop getting new
syncronizers...warranty can be a wonderful thing...
Jeff
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:vBDge.106096$3V3.102035@edtnps89...
>I had rough shifting on my AX-15 trans. Switched from API GL-5 oil to
> GM Synchromesh. Significant improvement, especially when cold. Also
> available as Pennzoil Synchromesh: same as the GM stuff but cheaper:
>
> http://www.pennzoil.com/products/gea...cro_fluid.html
>
> The AX-15 has sintered brass synchros that don't tolerate sulfur in
> regular GL-5 90 weight oil. Better to use API GL-3 rated lubes like
> Synchromesh or Red Line MTL.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> Mythic wrote:
>> Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
>> from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts alot
>> easier.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>> Thanks!

Re: poor shifting
 

Mine was doing that and is now at the Tranny shop getting new
syncronizers...warranty can be a wonderful thing...
Jeff
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:vBDge.106096$3V3.102035@edtnps89...
>I had rough shifting on my AX-15 trans. Switched from API GL-5 oil to
> GM Synchromesh. Significant improvement, especially when cold. Also
> available as Pennzoil Synchromesh: same as the GM stuff but cheaper:
>
> http://www.pennzoil.com/products/gea...cro_fluid.html
>
> The AX-15 has sintered brass synchros that don't tolerate sulfur in
> regular GL-5 90 weight oil. Better to use API GL-3 rated lubes like
> Synchromesh or Red Line MTL.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> Mythic wrote:
>> Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
>> from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts alot
>> easier.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>> Thanks!

Re: poor shifting
 

Low gear oil would be my first guess and water inside the second.

The TJ tranny has no high water vent so they easily can get filled with
water if you go too deep.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mythic wrote:
>
> Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
> from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
> alot easier.
>
> Any ideas?
> Thanks!

Re: poor shifting
 

Low gear oil would be my first guess and water inside the second.

The TJ tranny has no high water vent so they easily can get filled with
water if you go too deep.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mythic wrote:
>
> Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
> from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
> alot easier.
>
> Any ideas?
> Thanks!

Re: poor shifting
 

Low gear oil would be my first guess and water inside the second.

The TJ tranny has no high water vent so they easily can get filled with
water if you go too deep.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mythic wrote:
>
> Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
> from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
> alot easier.
>
> Any ideas?
> Thanks!

Re: poor shifting
 

Low gear oil would be my first guess and water inside the second.

The TJ tranny has no high water vent so they easily can get filled with
water if you go too deep.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mythic wrote:
>
> Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
> from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
> alot easier.
>
> Any ideas?
> Thanks!

Re: poor shifting
 

My '99 was the same... I switched to Redline synthetic and it's been
much better.

Dave

On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:31 -0400, Mythic <none@none.ca> wrote:

>Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
>from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
>alot easier.
>
>Any ideas?
>Thanks!

Re: poor shifting
 

My '99 was the same... I switched to Redline synthetic and it's been
much better.

Dave

On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:31 -0400, Mythic <none@none.ca> wrote:

>Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
>from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
>alot easier.
>
>Any ideas?
>Thanks!

Re: poor shifting
 

My '99 was the same... I switched to Redline synthetic and it's been
much better.

Dave

On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:31 -0400, Mythic <none@none.ca> wrote:

>Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
>from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
>alot easier.
>
>Any ideas?
>Thanks!

Re: poor shifting
 

My '99 was the same... I switched to Redline synthetic and it's been
much better.

Dave

On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:31 -0400, Mythic <none@none.ca> wrote:

>Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
>from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
>alot easier.
>
>Any ideas?
>Thanks!

Re: poor shifting
 

Hi Jeff,
Seeing the Poster's problem was with just two gears, the gears most
effected by not fully disengaging the clutch, I agree with you, he needs
syncros. Now have you learned to match gears?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeep wrote:
>
> Mine was doing that and is now at the Tranny shop getting new
> syncronizers...warranty can be a wonderful thing...
> Jeff

Re: poor shifting
 

Hi Jeff,
Seeing the Poster's problem was with just two gears, the gears most
effected by not fully disengaging the clutch, I agree with you, he needs
syncros. Now have you learned to match gears?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeep wrote:
>
> Mine was doing that and is now at the Tranny shop getting new
> syncronizers...warranty can be a wonderful thing...
> Jeff

Re: poor shifting
 

Hi Jeff,
Seeing the Poster's problem was with just two gears, the gears most
effected by not fully disengaging the clutch, I agree with you, he needs
syncros. Now have you learned to match gears?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeep wrote:
>
> Mine was doing that and is now at the Tranny shop getting new
> syncronizers...warranty can be a wonderful thing...
> Jeff

Re: poor shifting
 

Hi Jeff,
Seeing the Poster's problem was with just two gears, the gears most
effected by not fully disengaging the clutch, I agree with you, he needs
syncros. Now have you learned to match gears?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeep wrote:
>
> Mine was doing that and is now at the Tranny shop getting new
> syncronizers...warranty can be a wonderful thing...
> Jeff

Re: poor shifting
 

well it seems that water was the main cause of mine going bad...now looking
for the best ideas on relocating the vent lines?/ Bill ya got a link for
that??
Jeff



"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vsu681th5ibajla53kbg7splvqm1j6fa1f@4ax.com...
> My '99 was the same... I switched to Redline synthetic and it's been
> much better.
>
> Dave
>
> On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:31 -0400, Mythic <none@none.ca> wrote:
>
>>Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
>>from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
>>alot easier.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>Thanks!
>

Re: poor shifting
 

well it seems that water was the main cause of mine going bad...now looking
for the best ideas on relocating the vent lines?/ Bill ya got a link for
that??
Jeff



"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vsu681th5ibajla53kbg7splvqm1j6fa1f@4ax.com...
> My '99 was the same... I switched to Redline synthetic and it's been
> much better.
>
> Dave
>
> On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:31 -0400, Mythic <none@none.ca> wrote:
>
>>Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
>>from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
>>alot easier.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>Thanks!
>

Re: poor shifting
 

well it seems that water was the main cause of mine going bad...now looking
for the best ideas on relocating the vent lines?/ Bill ya got a link for
that??
Jeff



"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vsu681th5ibajla53kbg7splvqm1j6fa1f@4ax.com...
> My '99 was the same... I switched to Redline synthetic and it's been
> much better.
>
> Dave
>
> On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:31 -0400, Mythic <none@none.ca> wrote:
>
>>Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
>>from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
>>alot easier.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>Thanks!
>

Re: poor shifting
 

well it seems that water was the main cause of mine going bad...now looking
for the best ideas on relocating the vent lines?/ Bill ya got a link for
that??
Jeff



"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vsu681th5ibajla53kbg7splvqm1j6fa1f@4ax.com...
> My '99 was the same... I switched to Redline synthetic and it's been
> much better.
>
> Dave
>
> On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:31 -0400, Mythic <none@none.ca> wrote:
>
>>Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
>>from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
>>alot easier.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>Thanks!
>

Re: poor shifting
 

There is the trouble, you don't 'have' a vent line. Jeep decided to
protect every other part of the vehicle except the transmission.

I pulled the stooopid button vent out of mine and tapped in a piece of
steel gas line to make a nipple for the vent line. I used transmission
hose and ran it up by the battery then inverted the top in a cane handle
loop. to make an air lock. Pointed the end down.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jeep wrote:
>
> well it seems that water was the main cause of mine going bad...now looking
> for the best ideas on relocating the vent lines?/ Bill ya got a link for
> that??
> Jeff
>
> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:vsu681th5ibajla53kbg7splvqm1j6fa1f@4ax.com...
> > My '99 was the same... I switched to Redline synthetic and it's been
> > much better.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:31 -0400, Mythic <none@none.ca> wrote:
> >
> >>Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
> >>from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
> >>alot easier.
> >>
> >>Any ideas?
> >>Thanks!
> >

Re: poor shifting
 

There is the trouble, you don't 'have' a vent line. Jeep decided to
protect every other part of the vehicle except the transmission.

I pulled the stooopid button vent out of mine and tapped in a piece of
steel gas line to make a nipple for the vent line. I used transmission
hose and ran it up by the battery then inverted the top in a cane handle
loop. to make an air lock. Pointed the end down.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jeep wrote:
>
> well it seems that water was the main cause of mine going bad...now looking
> for the best ideas on relocating the vent lines?/ Bill ya got a link for
> that??
> Jeff
>
> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:vsu681th5ibajla53kbg7splvqm1j6fa1f@4ax.com...
> > My '99 was the same... I switched to Redline synthetic and it's been
> > much better.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:31 -0400, Mythic <none@none.ca> wrote:
> >
> >>Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
> >>from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
> >>alot easier.
> >>
> >>Any ideas?
> >>Thanks!
> >

Re: poor shifting
 

There is the trouble, you don't 'have' a vent line. Jeep decided to
protect every other part of the vehicle except the transmission.

I pulled the stooopid button vent out of mine and tapped in a piece of
steel gas line to make a nipple for the vent line. I used transmission
hose and ran it up by the battery then inverted the top in a cane handle
loop. to make an air lock. Pointed the end down.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jeep wrote:
>
> well it seems that water was the main cause of mine going bad...now looking
> for the best ideas on relocating the vent lines?/ Bill ya got a link for
> that??
> Jeff
>
> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:vsu681th5ibajla53kbg7splvqm1j6fa1f@4ax.com...
> > My '99 was the same... I switched to Redline synthetic and it's been
> > much better.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:31 -0400, Mythic <none@none.ca> wrote:
> >
> >>Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
> >>from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
> >>alot easier.
> >>
> >>Any ideas?
> >>Thanks!
> >

Re: poor shifting
 

There is the trouble, you don't 'have' a vent line. Jeep decided to
protect every other part of the vehicle except the transmission.

I pulled the stooopid button vent out of mine and tapped in a piece of
steel gas line to make a nipple for the vent line. I used transmission
hose and ran it up by the battery then inverted the top in a cane handle
loop. to make an air lock. Pointed the end down.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jeep wrote:
>
> well it seems that water was the main cause of mine going bad...now looking
> for the best ideas on relocating the vent lines?/ Bill ya got a link for
> that??
> Jeff
>
> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:vsu681th5ibajla53kbg7splvqm1j6fa1f@4ax.com...
> > My '99 was the same... I switched to Redline synthetic and it's been
> > much better.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:31 -0400, Mythic <none@none.ca> wrote:
> >
> >>Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
> >>from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
> >>alot easier.
> >>
> >>Any ideas?
> >>Thanks!
> >

Re: poor shifting
 

As I still haven't done mine, but will, what is the cane loop/air lock
for?

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4284AD87.8A720D4C@sympatico.ca...
> There is the trouble, you don't 'have' a vent line. Jeep decided to
> protect every other part of the vehicle except the transmission.
>
> I pulled the stooopid button vent out of mine and tapped in a piece of
> steel gas line to make a nipple for the vent line. I used transmission
> hose and ran it up by the battery then inverted the top in a cane handle
> loop. to make an air lock. Pointed the end down.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeep wrote:
>>
>> well it seems that water was the main cause of mine going bad...now
>> looking
>> for the best ideas on relocating the vent lines?/ Bill ya got a link for
>> that??
>> Jeff
>>
>> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:vsu681th5ibajla53kbg7splvqm1j6fa1f@4ax.com...
>> > My '99 was the same... I switched to Redline synthetic and it's been
>> > much better.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> > On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:31 -0400, Mythic <none@none.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
>> >>from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
>> >>alot easier.
>> >>
>> >>Any ideas?
>> >>Thanks!
>> >

Re: poor shifting
 

As I still haven't done mine, but will, what is the cane loop/air lock
for?

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4284AD87.8A720D4C@sympatico.ca...
> There is the trouble, you don't 'have' a vent line. Jeep decided to
> protect every other part of the vehicle except the transmission.
>
> I pulled the stooopid button vent out of mine and tapped in a piece of
> steel gas line to make a nipple for the vent line. I used transmission
> hose and ran it up by the battery then inverted the top in a cane handle
> loop. to make an air lock. Pointed the end down.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeep wrote:
>>
>> well it seems that water was the main cause of mine going bad...now
>> looking
>> for the best ideas on relocating the vent lines?/ Bill ya got a link for
>> that??
>> Jeff
>>
>> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:vsu681th5ibajla53kbg7splvqm1j6fa1f@4ax.com...
>> > My '99 was the same... I switched to Redline synthetic and it's been
>> > much better.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> > On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:31 -0400, Mythic <none@none.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
>> >>from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
>> >>alot easier.
>> >>
>> >>Any ideas?
>> >>Thanks!
>> >

Re: poor shifting
 

As I still haven't done mine, but will, what is the cane loop/air lock
for?

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4284AD87.8A720D4C@sympatico.ca...
> There is the trouble, you don't 'have' a vent line. Jeep decided to
> protect every other part of the vehicle except the transmission.
>
> I pulled the stooopid button vent out of mine and tapped in a piece of
> steel gas line to make a nipple for the vent line. I used transmission
> hose and ran it up by the battery then inverted the top in a cane handle
> loop. to make an air lock. Pointed the end down.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeep wrote:
>>
>> well it seems that water was the main cause of mine going bad...now
>> looking
>> for the best ideas on relocating the vent lines?/ Bill ya got a link for
>> that??
>> Jeff
>>
>> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:vsu681th5ibajla53kbg7splvqm1j6fa1f@4ax.com...
>> > My '99 was the same... I switched to Redline synthetic and it's been
>> > much better.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> > On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:31 -0400, Mythic <none@none.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
>> >>from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
>> >>alot easier.
>> >>
>> >>Any ideas?
>> >>Thanks!
>> >

Re: poor shifting
 

As I still haven't done mine, but will, what is the cane loop/air lock
for?

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4284AD87.8A720D4C@sympatico.ca...
> There is the trouble, you don't 'have' a vent line. Jeep decided to
> protect every other part of the vehicle except the transmission.
>
> I pulled the stooopid button vent out of mine and tapped in a piece of
> steel gas line to make a nipple for the vent line. I used transmission
> hose and ran it up by the battery then inverted the top in a cane handle
> loop. to make an air lock. Pointed the end down.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeep wrote:
>>
>> well it seems that water was the main cause of mine going bad...now
>> looking
>> for the best ideas on relocating the vent lines?/ Bill ya got a link for
>> that??
>> Jeff
>>
>> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:vsu681th5ibajla53kbg7splvqm1j6fa1f@4ax.com...
>> > My '99 was the same... I switched to Redline synthetic and it's been
>> > much better.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> > On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:31 -0400, Mythic <none@none.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Hey all, when my 97 jeep tj (5spd manual) is cold, it's hard to shift
>> >>from 1st to 2nd and vice versa. Once it's warmed up a bit, it shifts
>> >>alot easier.
>> >>
>> >>Any ideas?
>> >>Thanks!
>> >

Re: poor shifting
 

On Fri, 13 May 2005 14:14:30 GMT, Greg wrote:
> As I still haven't done mine, but will, what is the cane loop/air lock
> for?

You can demonstrate this in the house:
Fill the sink with water
Hold a cup with the opening facing down
Push the cup into the sink
Now, how much water is in the cup?

If you simply point the hose up, you have merely increased the
necessary water level before you end up in the exact same situation.
However, by pointing the opening down you create a situation where the
air in the hose will prevent water from entering even if the water is
well over the top of the hose.

-D


> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4284AD87.8A720D4C@sympatico.ca...
>> There is the trouble, you don't 'have' a vent line. Jeep decided to
>> protect every other part of the vehicle except the transmission.
>>
>> I pulled the stooopid button vent out of mine and tapped in a piece of
>> steel gas line to make a nipple for the vent line. I used transmission
>> hose and ran it up by the battery then inverted the top in a cane handle
>> loop. to make an air lock. Pointed the end down.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Jeep wrote:
>>>
>>> well it seems that water was the main cause of mine going bad...now
>>> looking
>>> for the best ideas on relocating the vent lines?/ Bill ya got a link for
>>> that??
>>> Jeff
>>>

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Re: poor shifting
 

On Fri, 13 May 2005 14:14:30 GMT, Greg wrote:
> As I still haven't done mine, but will, what is the cane loop/air lock
> for?

You can demonstrate this in the house:
Fill the sink with water
Hold a cup with the opening facing down
Push the cup into the sink
Now, how much water is in the cup?

If you simply point the hose up, you have merely increased the
necessary water level before you end up in the exact same situation.
However, by pointing the opening down you create a situation where the
air in the hose will prevent water from entering even if the water is
well over the top of the hose.

-D


> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4284AD87.8A720D4C@sympatico.ca...
>> There is the trouble, you don't 'have' a vent line. Jeep decided to
>> protect every other part of the vehicle except the transmission.
>>
>> I pulled the stooopid button vent out of mine and tapped in a piece of
>> steel gas line to make a nipple for the vent line. I used transmission
>> hose and ran it up by the battery then inverted the top in a cane handle
>> loop. to make an air lock. Pointed the end down.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Jeep wrote:
>>>
>>> well it seems that water was the main cause of mine going bad...now
>>> looking
>>> for the best ideas on relocating the vent lines?/ Bill ya got a link for
>>> that??
>>> Jeff
>>>

--
Q: What is the difference between open-source and commercial software?
A: If you have a problem with commercial software you can call a phone
number and they will tell you it might be solved in a future version.
For open-source sofware there isn't a phone number to call, but you
get the solution within a day.

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Re: poor shifting
 

On Fri, 13 May 2005 14:14:30 GMT, Greg wrote:
> As I still haven't done mine, but will, what is the cane loop/air lock
> for?

You can demonstrate this in the house:
Fill the sink with water
Hold a cup with the opening facing down
Push the cup into the sink
Now, how much water is in the cup?

If you simply point the hose up, you have merely increased the
necessary water level before you end up in the exact same situation.
However, by pointing the opening down you create a situation where the
air in the hose will prevent water from entering even if the water is
well over the top of the hose.

-D


> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4284AD87.8A720D4C@sympatico.ca...
>> There is the trouble, you don't 'have' a vent line. Jeep decided to
>> protect every other part of the vehicle except the transmission.
>>
>> I pulled the stooopid button vent out of mine and tapped in a piece of
>> steel gas line to make a nipple for the vent line. I used transmission
>> hose and ran it up by the battery then inverted the top in a cane handle
>> loop. to make an air lock. Pointed the end down.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Jeep wrote:
>>>
>>> well it seems that water was the main cause of mine going bad...now
>>> looking
>>> for the best ideas on relocating the vent lines?/ Bill ya got a link for
>>> that??
>>> Jeff
>>>

--
Q: What is the difference between open-source and commercial software?
A: If you have a problem with commercial software you can call a phone
number and they will tell you it might be solved in a future version.
For open-source sofware there isn't a phone number to call, but you
get the solution within a day.

www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org