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Re: Transmissions - Wranglers
I think it would be kinda cool if they really were see-through....
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44288280.A8AA893C@***.net...
> Hi Matt,
> Talk about stupid covers, If I owned a Vette these plastic valve,
> valve covers would be stripped:
> http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/c...606_engine.jpg They must
> expect only girlies can afford one.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> That's the product of 5 winters' worth of Michigan salted roads...you
>> should
>> see the undercarriage. I'm not looking forward to changing the shocks.
>> It's
>> pretty dirty too, I need to do my annual engine washdown. I took the
>> stupid
>> plastic cover off the throttle body for that pic and saw how much dirt it
>> collected underneath, it's not going back on.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44288280.A8AA893C@***.net...
> Hi Matt,
> Talk about stupid covers, If I owned a Vette these plastic valve,
> valve covers would be stripped:
> http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/c...606_engine.jpg They must
> expect only girlies can afford one.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> That's the product of 5 winters' worth of Michigan salted roads...you
>> should
>> see the undercarriage. I'm not looking forward to changing the shocks.
>> It's
>> pretty dirty too, I need to do my annual engine washdown. I took the
>> stupid
>> plastic cover off the throttle body for that pic and saw how much dirt it
>> collected underneath, it's not going back on.
Guest
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Re: Transmissions - Wranglers
I think it would be kinda cool if they really were see-through....
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44288280.A8AA893C@***.net...
> Hi Matt,
> Talk about stupid covers, If I owned a Vette these plastic valve,
> valve covers would be stripped:
> http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/c...606_engine.jpg They must
> expect only girlies can afford one.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> That's the product of 5 winters' worth of Michigan salted roads...you
>> should
>> see the undercarriage. I'm not looking forward to changing the shocks.
>> It's
>> pretty dirty too, I need to do my annual engine washdown. I took the
>> stupid
>> plastic cover off the throttle body for that pic and saw how much dirt it
>> collected underneath, it's not going back on.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44288280.A8AA893C@***.net...
> Hi Matt,
> Talk about stupid covers, If I owned a Vette these plastic valve,
> valve covers would be stripped:
> http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/c...606_engine.jpg They must
> expect only girlies can afford one.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> That's the product of 5 winters' worth of Michigan salted roads...you
>> should
>> see the undercarriage. I'm not looking forward to changing the shocks.
>> It's
>> pretty dirty too, I need to do my annual engine washdown. I took the
>> stupid
>> plastic cover off the throttle body for that pic and saw how much dirt it
>> collected underneath, it's not going back on.
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Re: Transmissions - Wranglers
Guys, there are indeed two throttle return springs on all TJs.
The first is the obvious spring that you can see between the bracket and
throttle linkage. That is actually the backup spring.
The primary throttle return springr that you aren't seeing is on the
throttle body itself. It's a heavy clockspring behind the linkage that
is a little harder to find.
Jerry
mabar wrote:
> Yep, mine is missing. I also looked on the dealer's lot today at 2 other '06
> Wranglers, and they had no second spring. Maybe this is one of Jeeps
> "improvements" for '06??
>
> Thanks for the photo. I will be at the Jeep dealer soon ordering that
> spring.
>
> Tom
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:aoOdnU0GE80OibrZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Tom,
>>
>>Here's a pic of the spring that was missing on the TJL...
>>
>>http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/matt_photos/spring.jpg
>>
>>Sorry don't have the part # but it was about 5 bucks at the dealer.
>>
>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>news:-JydnXOmgK4xi7vZnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>>>Tom,
>>>
>>>There is a coil spring on the throttle body wrapped around the butterfly
>>>valve shaft, between the throttle cable lever and the throttle body.
>
> There
>
>>>should be a second retainer spring clipped to the throttle body lever,
>>>with the other end hooked onto the bracket that secures the end of the
>>>throttle cable housing. It was this second spring that was missing.
>>>
>>>Send me a good email address and I'll shoot you a pic.
>>>
>>>mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>>
>>>"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
>>>news:44260372_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>>
>>>>Hmmm...that's very interesting, Matt.
>>>>
>>>>My '06 Rubi has a much more sensitive throttle than my '02 Wrangler,
>
> and
>
>>>>it
>>>>is harder to control when going slowly over bumps, etc. Maybe I should
>>>>also
>>>>check for a missing spring. Exactly what and where should I look.
>>>>
>>>>I just took a look and there is a large coiled spring, but is there a
>>>>second
>>>>spring that might be missing. Just what spring was actually missing on
>>>>yours?
>>>>
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:UZKdnd8WIfrJOrjZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast. com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The Unlimited's throttle seemed overly sensitive, coupled with the
>>>>>automatic, everytime it went over a bump your foot would bounce on the
>>>>
>>>>pedal
>>>>
>>>>>and gun the engine. One day I had had enough and went to see if I
>
> could
>
>>>>>change the spring on the throttle body, as it did take less effort to
>>>>>move
>>>>>the pedal compared to my TJ. I had both hoods up, and compared
>>>>
>>>>them...turns
>>>>
>>>>>out the Unlimited was missing it's throttle retaining spring. Picked
>
> one
>
>>>>up
>>>>
>>>>>at a dealer and problem solved.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
The first is the obvious spring that you can see between the bracket and
throttle linkage. That is actually the backup spring.
The primary throttle return springr that you aren't seeing is on the
throttle body itself. It's a heavy clockspring behind the linkage that
is a little harder to find.
Jerry
mabar wrote:
> Yep, mine is missing. I also looked on the dealer's lot today at 2 other '06
> Wranglers, and they had no second spring. Maybe this is one of Jeeps
> "improvements" for '06??
>
> Thanks for the photo. I will be at the Jeep dealer soon ordering that
> spring.
>
> Tom
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:aoOdnU0GE80OibrZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Tom,
>>
>>Here's a pic of the spring that was missing on the TJL...
>>
>>http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/matt_photos/spring.jpg
>>
>>Sorry don't have the part # but it was about 5 bucks at the dealer.
>>
>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>news:-JydnXOmgK4xi7vZnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>>>Tom,
>>>
>>>There is a coil spring on the throttle body wrapped around the butterfly
>>>valve shaft, between the throttle cable lever and the throttle body.
>
> There
>
>>>should be a second retainer spring clipped to the throttle body lever,
>>>with the other end hooked onto the bracket that secures the end of the
>>>throttle cable housing. It was this second spring that was missing.
>>>
>>>Send me a good email address and I'll shoot you a pic.
>>>
>>>mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>>
>>>"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
>>>news:44260372_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>>
>>>>Hmmm...that's very interesting, Matt.
>>>>
>>>>My '06 Rubi has a much more sensitive throttle than my '02 Wrangler,
>
> and
>
>>>>it
>>>>is harder to control when going slowly over bumps, etc. Maybe I should
>>>>also
>>>>check for a missing spring. Exactly what and where should I look.
>>>>
>>>>I just took a look and there is a large coiled spring, but is there a
>>>>second
>>>>spring that might be missing. Just what spring was actually missing on
>>>>yours?
>>>>
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:UZKdnd8WIfrJOrjZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast. com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The Unlimited's throttle seemed overly sensitive, coupled with the
>>>>>automatic, everytime it went over a bump your foot would bounce on the
>>>>
>>>>pedal
>>>>
>>>>>and gun the engine. One day I had had enough and went to see if I
>
> could
>
>>>>>change the spring on the throttle body, as it did take less effort to
>>>>>move
>>>>>the pedal compared to my TJ. I had both hoods up, and compared
>>>>
>>>>them...turns
>>>>
>>>>>out the Unlimited was missing it's throttle retaining spring. Picked
>
> one
>
>>>>up
>>>>
>>>>>at a dealer and problem solved.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
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Re: Transmissions - Wranglers
Guys, there are indeed two throttle return springs on all TJs.
The first is the obvious spring that you can see between the bracket and
throttle linkage. That is actually the backup spring.
The primary throttle return springr that you aren't seeing is on the
throttle body itself. It's a heavy clockspring behind the linkage that
is a little harder to find.
Jerry
mabar wrote:
> Yep, mine is missing. I also looked on the dealer's lot today at 2 other '06
> Wranglers, and they had no second spring. Maybe this is one of Jeeps
> "improvements" for '06??
>
> Thanks for the photo. I will be at the Jeep dealer soon ordering that
> spring.
>
> Tom
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:aoOdnU0GE80OibrZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Tom,
>>
>>Here's a pic of the spring that was missing on the TJL...
>>
>>http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/matt_photos/spring.jpg
>>
>>Sorry don't have the part # but it was about 5 bucks at the dealer.
>>
>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>news:-JydnXOmgK4xi7vZnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>>>Tom,
>>>
>>>There is a coil spring on the throttle body wrapped around the butterfly
>>>valve shaft, between the throttle cable lever and the throttle body.
>
> There
>
>>>should be a second retainer spring clipped to the throttle body lever,
>>>with the other end hooked onto the bracket that secures the end of the
>>>throttle cable housing. It was this second spring that was missing.
>>>
>>>Send me a good email address and I'll shoot you a pic.
>>>
>>>mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>>
>>>"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
>>>news:44260372_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>>
>>>>Hmmm...that's very interesting, Matt.
>>>>
>>>>My '06 Rubi has a much more sensitive throttle than my '02 Wrangler,
>
> and
>
>>>>it
>>>>is harder to control when going slowly over bumps, etc. Maybe I should
>>>>also
>>>>check for a missing spring. Exactly what and where should I look.
>>>>
>>>>I just took a look and there is a large coiled spring, but is there a
>>>>second
>>>>spring that might be missing. Just what spring was actually missing on
>>>>yours?
>>>>
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:UZKdnd8WIfrJOrjZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast. com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The Unlimited's throttle seemed overly sensitive, coupled with the
>>>>>automatic, everytime it went over a bump your foot would bounce on the
>>>>
>>>>pedal
>>>>
>>>>>and gun the engine. One day I had had enough and went to see if I
>
> could
>
>>>>>change the spring on the throttle body, as it did take less effort to
>>>>>move
>>>>>the pedal compared to my TJ. I had both hoods up, and compared
>>>>
>>>>them...turns
>>>>
>>>>>out the Unlimited was missing it's throttle retaining spring. Picked
>
> one
>
>>>>up
>>>>
>>>>>at a dealer and problem solved.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
The first is the obvious spring that you can see between the bracket and
throttle linkage. That is actually the backup spring.
The primary throttle return springr that you aren't seeing is on the
throttle body itself. It's a heavy clockspring behind the linkage that
is a little harder to find.
Jerry
mabar wrote:
> Yep, mine is missing. I also looked on the dealer's lot today at 2 other '06
> Wranglers, and they had no second spring. Maybe this is one of Jeeps
> "improvements" for '06??
>
> Thanks for the photo. I will be at the Jeep dealer soon ordering that
> spring.
>
> Tom
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:aoOdnU0GE80OibrZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Tom,
>>
>>Here's a pic of the spring that was missing on the TJL...
>>
>>http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/matt_photos/spring.jpg
>>
>>Sorry don't have the part # but it was about 5 bucks at the dealer.
>>
>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>news:-JydnXOmgK4xi7vZnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>>>Tom,
>>>
>>>There is a coil spring on the throttle body wrapped around the butterfly
>>>valve shaft, between the throttle cable lever and the throttle body.
>
> There
>
>>>should be a second retainer spring clipped to the throttle body lever,
>>>with the other end hooked onto the bracket that secures the end of the
>>>throttle cable housing. It was this second spring that was missing.
>>>
>>>Send me a good email address and I'll shoot you a pic.
>>>
>>>mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>>
>>>"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
>>>news:44260372_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>>
>>>>Hmmm...that's very interesting, Matt.
>>>>
>>>>My '06 Rubi has a much more sensitive throttle than my '02 Wrangler,
>
> and
>
>>>>it
>>>>is harder to control when going slowly over bumps, etc. Maybe I should
>>>>also
>>>>check for a missing spring. Exactly what and where should I look.
>>>>
>>>>I just took a look and there is a large coiled spring, but is there a
>>>>second
>>>>spring that might be missing. Just what spring was actually missing on
>>>>yours?
>>>>
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:UZKdnd8WIfrJOrjZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast. com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The Unlimited's throttle seemed overly sensitive, coupled with the
>>>>>automatic, everytime it went over a bump your foot would bounce on the
>>>>
>>>>pedal
>>>>
>>>>>and gun the engine. One day I had had enough and went to see if I
>
> could
>
>>>>>change the spring on the throttle body, as it did take less effort to
>>>>>move
>>>>>the pedal compared to my TJ. I had both hoods up, and compared
>>>>
>>>>them...turns
>>>>
>>>>>out the Unlimited was missing it's throttle retaining spring. Picked
>
> one
>
>>>>up
>>>>
>>>>>at a dealer and problem solved.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Transmissions - Wranglers
Guys, there are indeed two throttle return springs on all TJs.
The first is the obvious spring that you can see between the bracket and
throttle linkage. That is actually the backup spring.
The primary throttle return springr that you aren't seeing is on the
throttle body itself. It's a heavy clockspring behind the linkage that
is a little harder to find.
Jerry
mabar wrote:
> Yep, mine is missing. I also looked on the dealer's lot today at 2 other '06
> Wranglers, and they had no second spring. Maybe this is one of Jeeps
> "improvements" for '06??
>
> Thanks for the photo. I will be at the Jeep dealer soon ordering that
> spring.
>
> Tom
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:aoOdnU0GE80OibrZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Tom,
>>
>>Here's a pic of the spring that was missing on the TJL...
>>
>>http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/matt_photos/spring.jpg
>>
>>Sorry don't have the part # but it was about 5 bucks at the dealer.
>>
>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>news:-JydnXOmgK4xi7vZnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>>>Tom,
>>>
>>>There is a coil spring on the throttle body wrapped around the butterfly
>>>valve shaft, between the throttle cable lever and the throttle body.
>
> There
>
>>>should be a second retainer spring clipped to the throttle body lever,
>>>with the other end hooked onto the bracket that secures the end of the
>>>throttle cable housing. It was this second spring that was missing.
>>>
>>>Send me a good email address and I'll shoot you a pic.
>>>
>>>mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>>
>>>"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
>>>news:44260372_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>>
>>>>Hmmm...that's very interesting, Matt.
>>>>
>>>>My '06 Rubi has a much more sensitive throttle than my '02 Wrangler,
>
> and
>
>>>>it
>>>>is harder to control when going slowly over bumps, etc. Maybe I should
>>>>also
>>>>check for a missing spring. Exactly what and where should I look.
>>>>
>>>>I just took a look and there is a large coiled spring, but is there a
>>>>second
>>>>spring that might be missing. Just what spring was actually missing on
>>>>yours?
>>>>
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:UZKdnd8WIfrJOrjZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast. com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The Unlimited's throttle seemed overly sensitive, coupled with the
>>>>>automatic, everytime it went over a bump your foot would bounce on the
>>>>
>>>>pedal
>>>>
>>>>>and gun the engine. One day I had had enough and went to see if I
>
> could
>
>>>>>change the spring on the throttle body, as it did take less effort to
>>>>>move
>>>>>the pedal compared to my TJ. I had both hoods up, and compared
>>>>
>>>>them...turns
>>>>
>>>>>out the Unlimited was missing it's throttle retaining spring. Picked
>
> one
>
>>>>up
>>>>
>>>>>at a dealer and problem solved.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
The first is the obvious spring that you can see between the bracket and
throttle linkage. That is actually the backup spring.
The primary throttle return springr that you aren't seeing is on the
throttle body itself. It's a heavy clockspring behind the linkage that
is a little harder to find.
Jerry
mabar wrote:
> Yep, mine is missing. I also looked on the dealer's lot today at 2 other '06
> Wranglers, and they had no second spring. Maybe this is one of Jeeps
> "improvements" for '06??
>
> Thanks for the photo. I will be at the Jeep dealer soon ordering that
> spring.
>
> Tom
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:aoOdnU0GE80OibrZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Tom,
>>
>>Here's a pic of the spring that was missing on the TJL...
>>
>>http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/matt_photos/spring.jpg
>>
>>Sorry don't have the part # but it was about 5 bucks at the dealer.
>>
>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>news:-JydnXOmgK4xi7vZnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>>>Tom,
>>>
>>>There is a coil spring on the throttle body wrapped around the butterfly
>>>valve shaft, between the throttle cable lever and the throttle body.
>
> There
>
>>>should be a second retainer spring clipped to the throttle body lever,
>>>with the other end hooked onto the bracket that secures the end of the
>>>throttle cable housing. It was this second spring that was missing.
>>>
>>>Send me a good email address and I'll shoot you a pic.
>>>
>>>mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>>
>>>"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
>>>news:44260372_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>>
>>>>Hmmm...that's very interesting, Matt.
>>>>
>>>>My '06 Rubi has a much more sensitive throttle than my '02 Wrangler,
>
> and
>
>>>>it
>>>>is harder to control when going slowly over bumps, etc. Maybe I should
>>>>also
>>>>check for a missing spring. Exactly what and where should I look.
>>>>
>>>>I just took a look and there is a large coiled spring, but is there a
>>>>second
>>>>spring that might be missing. Just what spring was actually missing on
>>>>yours?
>>>>
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:UZKdnd8WIfrJOrjZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast. com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The Unlimited's throttle seemed overly sensitive, coupled with the
>>>>>automatic, everytime it went over a bump your foot would bounce on the
>>>>
>>>>pedal
>>>>
>>>>>and gun the engine. One day I had had enough and went to see if I
>
> could
>
>>>>>change the spring on the throttle body, as it did take less effort to
>>>>>move
>>>>>the pedal compared to my TJ. I had both hoods up, and compared
>>>>
>>>>them...turns
>>>>
>>>>>out the Unlimited was missing it's throttle retaining spring. Picked
>
> one
>
>>>>up
>>>>
>>>>>at a dealer and problem solved.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Transmissions - Wranglers
Guys, there are indeed two throttle return springs on all TJs.
The first is the obvious spring that you can see between the bracket and
throttle linkage. That is actually the backup spring.
The primary throttle return spring that you aren't seeing is on the
throttle body itself. It's a heavy clockspring behind the linkage that
is a little harder to find.
Jerry
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> I think it would be kinda cool if they really were see-through....
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44288280.A8AA893C@***.net...
>
>>Hi Matt,
>> Talk about stupid covers, If I owned a Vette these plastic valve,
>>valve covers would be stripped:
>>http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/c...606_engine.jpg They must
>>expect only girlies can afford one.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>That's the product of 5 winters' worth of Michigan salted roads...you
>>>should
>>>see the undercarriage. I'm not looking forward to changing the shocks.
>>>It's
>>>pretty dirty too, I need to do my annual engine washdown. I took the
>>>stupid
>>>plastic cover off the throttle body for that pic and saw how much dirt it
>>>collected underneath, it's not going back on.
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
The first is the obvious spring that you can see between the bracket and
throttle linkage. That is actually the backup spring.
The primary throttle return spring that you aren't seeing is on the
throttle body itself. It's a heavy clockspring behind the linkage that
is a little harder to find.
Jerry
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> I think it would be kinda cool if they really were see-through....
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44288280.A8AA893C@***.net...
>
>>Hi Matt,
>> Talk about stupid covers, If I owned a Vette these plastic valve,
>>valve covers would be stripped:
>>http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/c...606_engine.jpg They must
>>expect only girlies can afford one.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>That's the product of 5 winters' worth of Michigan salted roads...you
>>>should
>>>see the undercarriage. I'm not looking forward to changing the shocks.
>>>It's
>>>pretty dirty too, I need to do my annual engine washdown. I took the
>>>stupid
>>>plastic cover off the throttle body for that pic and saw how much dirt it
>>>collected underneath, it's not going back on.
>
>
>
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Re: Transmissions - Wranglers
Guys, there are indeed two throttle return springs on all TJs.
The first is the obvious spring that you can see between the bracket and
throttle linkage. That is actually the backup spring.
The primary throttle return spring that you aren't seeing is on the
throttle body itself. It's a heavy clockspring behind the linkage that
is a little harder to find.
Jerry
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> I think it would be kinda cool if they really were see-through....
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44288280.A8AA893C@***.net...
>
>>Hi Matt,
>> Talk about stupid covers, If I owned a Vette these plastic valve,
>>valve covers would be stripped:
>>http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/c...606_engine.jpg They must
>>expect only girlies can afford one.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>That's the product of 5 winters' worth of Michigan salted roads...you
>>>should
>>>see the undercarriage. I'm not looking forward to changing the shocks.
>>>It's
>>>pretty dirty too, I need to do my annual engine washdown. I took the
>>>stupid
>>>plastic cover off the throttle body for that pic and saw how much dirt it
>>>collected underneath, it's not going back on.
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
The first is the obvious spring that you can see between the bracket and
throttle linkage. That is actually the backup spring.
The primary throttle return spring that you aren't seeing is on the
throttle body itself. It's a heavy clockspring behind the linkage that
is a little harder to find.
Jerry
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> I think it would be kinda cool if they really were see-through....
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44288280.A8AA893C@***.net...
>
>>Hi Matt,
>> Talk about stupid covers, If I owned a Vette these plastic valve,
>>valve covers would be stripped:
>>http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/c...606_engine.jpg They must
>>expect only girlies can afford one.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>That's the product of 5 winters' worth of Michigan salted roads...you
>>>should
>>>see the undercarriage. I'm not looking forward to changing the shocks.
>>>It's
>>>pretty dirty too, I need to do my annual engine washdown. I took the
>>>stupid
>>>plastic cover off the throttle body for that pic and saw how much dirt it
>>>collected underneath, it's not going back on.
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
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Re: Transmissions - Wranglers
Guys, there are indeed two throttle return springs on all TJs.
The first is the obvious spring that you can see between the bracket and
throttle linkage. That is actually the backup spring.
The primary throttle return spring that you aren't seeing is on the
throttle body itself. It's a heavy clockspring behind the linkage that
is a little harder to find.
Jerry
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> I think it would be kinda cool if they really were see-through....
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44288280.A8AA893C@***.net...
>
>>Hi Matt,
>> Talk about stupid covers, If I owned a Vette these plastic valve,
>>valve covers would be stripped:
>>http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/c...606_engine.jpg They must
>>expect only girlies can afford one.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>That's the product of 5 winters' worth of Michigan salted roads...you
>>>should
>>>see the undercarriage. I'm not looking forward to changing the shocks.
>>>It's
>>>pretty dirty too, I need to do my annual engine washdown. I took the
>>>stupid
>>>plastic cover off the throttle body for that pic and saw how much dirt it
>>>collected underneath, it's not going back on.
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
The first is the obvious spring that you can see between the bracket and
throttle linkage. That is actually the backup spring.
The primary throttle return spring that you aren't seeing is on the
throttle body itself. It's a heavy clockspring behind the linkage that
is a little harder to find.
Jerry
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> I think it would be kinda cool if they really were see-through....
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44288280.A8AA893C@***.net...
>
>>Hi Matt,
>> Talk about stupid covers, If I owned a Vette these plastic valve,
>>valve covers would be stripped:
>>http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/c...606_engine.jpg They must
>>expect only girlies can afford one.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>That's the product of 5 winters' worth of Michigan salted roads...you
>>>should
>>>see the undercarriage. I'm not looking forward to changing the shocks.
>>>It's
>>>pretty dirty too, I need to do my annual engine washdown. I took the
>>>stupid
>>>plastic cover off the throttle body for that pic and saw how much dirt it
>>>collected underneath, it's not going back on.
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
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Re: Transmissions - Wranglers
There should be but it sounds like they may have stopped installing the
backup spring.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:BMhWf.14456$6a1.13307@fed1read04...
> Guys, there are indeed two throttle return springs on all TJs.
>
> The first is the obvious spring that you can see between the bracket and
> throttle linkage. That is actually the backup spring.
>
> The primary throttle return spring that you aren't seeing is on the
> throttle body itself. It's a heavy clockspring behind the linkage that is
> a little harder to find.
>
> Jerry
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> I think it would be kinda cool if they really were see-through....
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44288280.A8AA893C@***.net...
>>
>>>Hi Matt,
>>> Talk about stupid covers, If I owned a Vette these plastic valve,
>>>valve covers would be stripped:
>>>http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/c...606_engine.jpg They must
>>>expect only girlies can afford one.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>That's the product of 5 winters' worth of Michigan salted roads...you
>>>>should
>>>>see the undercarriage. I'm not looking forward to changing the shocks.
>>>>It's
>>>>pretty dirty too, I need to do my annual engine washdown. I took the
>>>>stupid
>>>>plastic cover off the throttle body for that pic and saw how much dirt
>>>>it
>>>>collected underneath, it's not going back on.
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
backup spring.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:BMhWf.14456$6a1.13307@fed1read04...
> Guys, there are indeed two throttle return springs on all TJs.
>
> The first is the obvious spring that you can see between the bracket and
> throttle linkage. That is actually the backup spring.
>
> The primary throttle return spring that you aren't seeing is on the
> throttle body itself. It's a heavy clockspring behind the linkage that is
> a little harder to find.
>
> Jerry
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> I think it would be kinda cool if they really were see-through....
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44288280.A8AA893C@***.net...
>>
>>>Hi Matt,
>>> Talk about stupid covers, If I owned a Vette these plastic valve,
>>>valve covers would be stripped:
>>>http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/c...606_engine.jpg They must
>>>expect only girlies can afford one.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>That's the product of 5 winters' worth of Michigan salted roads...you
>>>>should
>>>>see the undercarriage. I'm not looking forward to changing the shocks.
>>>>It's
>>>>pretty dirty too, I need to do my annual engine washdown. I took the
>>>>stupid
>>>>plastic cover off the throttle body for that pic and saw how much dirt
>>>>it
>>>>collected underneath, it's not going back on.
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
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Re: Transmissions - Wranglers
There should be but it sounds like they may have stopped installing the
backup spring.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:BMhWf.14456$6a1.13307@fed1read04...
> Guys, there are indeed two throttle return springs on all TJs.
>
> The first is the obvious spring that you can see between the bracket and
> throttle linkage. That is actually the backup spring.
>
> The primary throttle return spring that you aren't seeing is on the
> throttle body itself. It's a heavy clockspring behind the linkage that is
> a little harder to find.
>
> Jerry
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> I think it would be kinda cool if they really were see-through....
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44288280.A8AA893C@***.net...
>>
>>>Hi Matt,
>>> Talk about stupid covers, If I owned a Vette these plastic valve,
>>>valve covers would be stripped:
>>>http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/c...606_engine.jpg They must
>>>expect only girlies can afford one.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>That's the product of 5 winters' worth of Michigan salted roads...you
>>>>should
>>>>see the undercarriage. I'm not looking forward to changing the shocks.
>>>>It's
>>>>pretty dirty too, I need to do my annual engine washdown. I took the
>>>>stupid
>>>>plastic cover off the throttle body for that pic and saw how much dirt
>>>>it
>>>>collected underneath, it's not going back on.
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
backup spring.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:BMhWf.14456$6a1.13307@fed1read04...
> Guys, there are indeed two throttle return springs on all TJs.
>
> The first is the obvious spring that you can see between the bracket and
> throttle linkage. That is actually the backup spring.
>
> The primary throttle return spring that you aren't seeing is on the
> throttle body itself. It's a heavy clockspring behind the linkage that is
> a little harder to find.
>
> Jerry
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> I think it would be kinda cool if they really were see-through....
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:44288280.A8AA893C@***.net...
>>
>>>Hi Matt,
>>> Talk about stupid covers, If I owned a Vette these plastic valve,
>>>valve covers would be stripped:
>>>http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/c...606_engine.jpg They must
>>>expect only girlies can afford one.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>That's the product of 5 winters' worth of Michigan salted roads...you
>>>>should
>>>>see the undercarriage. I'm not looking forward to changing the shocks.
>>>>It's
>>>>pretty dirty too, I need to do my annual engine washdown. I took the
>>>>stupid
>>>>plastic cover off the throttle body for that pic and saw how much dirt
>>>>it
>>>>collected underneath, it's not going back on.
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/