piping heat into clifford performance intake
02-01-2004, 10:28 AM
#11
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Re: piping heat into clifford performance intake
Does your intake itself not have the water jacket?
The water lines have nothing to do with the carb or it's base plate, the
water runs through the manifold, then out the back to the heater core
inside.
It is in 'series' with the heater core so it doesn't rely on the
thermostat in any way, the heater hose bypasses the t-stat.
You also likely need a hot air intake for the air filter. You must have
that to pass emissions around here and I don't care how hot the intake
manifold or carb base is, it 'will' freeze up without the hot air
intake.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
brad smith wrote:
>
> I have a Holley 2300 which is a 2 bbl 500cfm carb. I am going to replace it
> with a lower cfm Webber, prob. a 38. I guess I should probably wait for the
> new carb to get plate then.
>
> B.
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:bj0Tb.8819$2h.7165@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >
> > "brad smith" <bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
> > news:Qb0Tb.22306$M81.2418@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > I have a Clifford Performance intake but no heat to my Holley carb and
> it
> > is
> > > starting to freeze over in this cold weather here in KC. the Clifford
> > site
> > > says:
> > >
> > > >"If you do not want to hook it up you can run without water heat" But
> > when
> > > the
> > > >temp drops below 65 degrees your carb will condensate. So hook it up!
> > >
> > > do I need a plate to mount the carb to that has a water jacket on it or
> > > something like that? any help would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > B.
> > >
> >
> > These are pretty common items. If you have a Holley 4 barrel, then you can
> > use the Ford plate that was used on the Motor square bore carb. They use
> the
> > same bolt pattern. If you have a different carb, then you'll just have to
> > find one that matches your carb flange. Post back with the exact carb you
> > have and that will help locate the proper part.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
The water lines have nothing to do with the carb or it's base plate, the
water runs through the manifold, then out the back to the heater core
inside.
It is in 'series' with the heater core so it doesn't rely on the
thermostat in any way, the heater hose bypasses the t-stat.
You also likely need a hot air intake for the air filter. You must have
that to pass emissions around here and I don't care how hot the intake
manifold or carb base is, it 'will' freeze up without the hot air
intake.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
brad smith wrote:
>
> I have a Holley 2300 which is a 2 bbl 500cfm carb. I am going to replace it
> with a lower cfm Webber, prob. a 38. I guess I should probably wait for the
> new carb to get plate then.
>
> B.
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:bj0Tb.8819$2h.7165@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >
> > "brad smith" <bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
> > news:Qb0Tb.22306$M81.2418@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > I have a Clifford Performance intake but no heat to my Holley carb and
> it
> > is
> > > starting to freeze over in this cold weather here in KC. the Clifford
> > site
> > > says:
> > >
> > > >"If you do not want to hook it up you can run without water heat" But
> > when
> > > the
> > > >temp drops below 65 degrees your carb will condensate. So hook it up!
> > >
> > > do I need a plate to mount the carb to that has a water jacket on it or
> > > something like that? any help would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > B.
> > >
> >
> > These are pretty common items. If you have a Holley 4 barrel, then you can
> > use the Ford plate that was used on the Motor square bore carb. They use
> the
> > same bolt pattern. If you have a different carb, then you'll just have to
> > find one that matches your carb flange. Post back with the exact carb you
> > have and that will help locate the proper part.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
02-01-2004, 10:28 AM
#12
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Posts: n/a
Re: piping heat into clifford performance intake
Does your intake itself not have the water jacket?
The water lines have nothing to do with the carb or it's base plate, the
water runs through the manifold, then out the back to the heater core
inside.
It is in 'series' with the heater core so it doesn't rely on the
thermostat in any way, the heater hose bypasses the t-stat.
You also likely need a hot air intake for the air filter. You must have
that to pass emissions around here and I don't care how hot the intake
manifold or carb base is, it 'will' freeze up without the hot air
intake.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
brad smith wrote:
>
> I have a Holley 2300 which is a 2 bbl 500cfm carb. I am going to replace it
> with a lower cfm Webber, prob. a 38. I guess I should probably wait for the
> new carb to get plate then.
>
> B.
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:bj0Tb.8819$2h.7165@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >
> > "brad smith" <bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
> > news:Qb0Tb.22306$M81.2418@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > I have a Clifford Performance intake but no heat to my Holley carb and
> it
> > is
> > > starting to freeze over in this cold weather here in KC. the Clifford
> > site
> > > says:
> > >
> > > >"If you do not want to hook it up you can run without water heat" But
> > when
> > > the
> > > >temp drops below 65 degrees your carb will condensate. So hook it up!
> > >
> > > do I need a plate to mount the carb to that has a water jacket on it or
> > > something like that? any help would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > B.
> > >
> >
> > These are pretty common items. If you have a Holley 4 barrel, then you can
> > use the Ford plate that was used on the Motor square bore carb. They use
> the
> > same bolt pattern. If you have a different carb, then you'll just have to
> > find one that matches your carb flange. Post back with the exact carb you
> > have and that will help locate the proper part.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
The water lines have nothing to do with the carb or it's base plate, the
water runs through the manifold, then out the back to the heater core
inside.
It is in 'series' with the heater core so it doesn't rely on the
thermostat in any way, the heater hose bypasses the t-stat.
You also likely need a hot air intake for the air filter. You must have
that to pass emissions around here and I don't care how hot the intake
manifold or carb base is, it 'will' freeze up without the hot air
intake.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
brad smith wrote:
>
> I have a Holley 2300 which is a 2 bbl 500cfm carb. I am going to replace it
> with a lower cfm Webber, prob. a 38. I guess I should probably wait for the
> new carb to get plate then.
>
> B.
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:bj0Tb.8819$2h.7165@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >
> > "brad smith" <bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
> > news:Qb0Tb.22306$M81.2418@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > I have a Clifford Performance intake but no heat to my Holley carb and
> it
> > is
> > > starting to freeze over in this cold weather here in KC. the Clifford
> > site
> > > says:
> > >
> > > >"If you do not want to hook it up you can run without water heat" But
> > when
> > > the
> > > >temp drops below 65 degrees your carb will condensate. So hook it up!
> > >
> > > do I need a plate to mount the carb to that has a water jacket on it or
> > > something like that? any help would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > B.
> > >
> >
> > These are pretty common items. If you have a Holley 4 barrel, then you can
> > use the Ford plate that was used on the Motor square bore carb. They use
> the
> > same bolt pattern. If you have a different carb, then you'll just have to
> > find one that matches your carb flange. Post back with the exact carb you
> > have and that will help locate the proper part.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
02-01-2004, 10:28 AM
#13
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Re: piping heat into clifford performance intake
Does your intake itself not have the water jacket?
The water lines have nothing to do with the carb or it's base plate, the
water runs through the manifold, then out the back to the heater core
inside.
It is in 'series' with the heater core so it doesn't rely on the
thermostat in any way, the heater hose bypasses the t-stat.
You also likely need a hot air intake for the air filter. You must have
that to pass emissions around here and I don't care how hot the intake
manifold or carb base is, it 'will' freeze up without the hot air
intake.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
brad smith wrote:
>
> I have a Holley 2300 which is a 2 bbl 500cfm carb. I am going to replace it
> with a lower cfm Webber, prob. a 38. I guess I should probably wait for the
> new carb to get plate then.
>
> B.
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:bj0Tb.8819$2h.7165@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >
> > "brad smith" <bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
> > news:Qb0Tb.22306$M81.2418@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > I have a Clifford Performance intake but no heat to my Holley carb and
> it
> > is
> > > starting to freeze over in this cold weather here in KC. the Clifford
> > site
> > > says:
> > >
> > > >"If you do not want to hook it up you can run without water heat" But
> > when
> > > the
> > > >temp drops below 65 degrees your carb will condensate. So hook it up!
> > >
> > > do I need a plate to mount the carb to that has a water jacket on it or
> > > something like that? any help would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > B.
> > >
> >
> > These are pretty common items. If you have a Holley 4 barrel, then you can
> > use the Ford plate that was used on the Motor square bore carb. They use
> the
> > same bolt pattern. If you have a different carb, then you'll just have to
> > find one that matches your carb flange. Post back with the exact carb you
> > have and that will help locate the proper part.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
The water lines have nothing to do with the carb or it's base plate, the
water runs through the manifold, then out the back to the heater core
inside.
It is in 'series' with the heater core so it doesn't rely on the
thermostat in any way, the heater hose bypasses the t-stat.
You also likely need a hot air intake for the air filter. You must have
that to pass emissions around here and I don't care how hot the intake
manifold or carb base is, it 'will' freeze up without the hot air
intake.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
brad smith wrote:
>
> I have a Holley 2300 which is a 2 bbl 500cfm carb. I am going to replace it
> with a lower cfm Webber, prob. a 38. I guess I should probably wait for the
> new carb to get plate then.
>
> B.
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:bj0Tb.8819$2h.7165@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >
> > "brad smith" <bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
> > news:Qb0Tb.22306$M81.2418@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > I have a Clifford Performance intake but no heat to my Holley carb and
> it
> > is
> > > starting to freeze over in this cold weather here in KC. the Clifford
> > site
> > > says:
> > >
> > > >"If you do not want to hook it up you can run without water heat" But
> > when
> > > the
> > > >temp drops below 65 degrees your carb will condensate. So hook it up!
> > >
> > > do I need a plate to mount the carb to that has a water jacket on it or
> > > something like that? any help would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > B.
> > >
> >
> > These are pretty common items. If you have a Holley 4 barrel, then you can
> > use the Ford plate that was used on the Motor square bore carb. They use
> the
> > same bolt pattern. If you have a different carb, then you'll just have to
> > find one that matches your carb flange. Post back with the exact carb you
> > have and that will help locate the proper part.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
02-01-2004, 12:30 PM
#14
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Re: piping heat into clifford performance intake
Probably the best thing to do. The Holley 2300 shares the same bolt pattern
with the Motorcraft 2 barrel, so that plate would work with your existing
carb. If the Weber requires an adapter plate, then I would get the proper
coolant plate so that it sits directly under the carb instead of below the
adapter plate. There should be one available for your application. You may
also want to incorporate a shutoff valve to the hose that supplies the carb
with warm coolant. This way in the summer time you can turn it off to
prevent the carb from boiling and possibly vapor locking.
Chris
"brad smith" <bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
news:Ct8Tb.23071$M81.22147@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> I have a Holley 2300 which is a 2 bbl 500cfm carb. I am going to replace
it
> with a lower cfm Webber, prob. a 38. I guess I should probably wait for
the
> new carb to get plate then.
>
> B.
>
>
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:bj0Tb.8819$2h.7165@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >
> > "brad smith" <bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
> > news:Qb0Tb.22306$M81.2418@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > I have a Clifford Performance intake but no heat to my Holley carb and
> it
> > is
> > > starting to freeze over in this cold weather here in KC. the Clifford
> > site
> > > says:
> > >
> > > >"If you do not want to hook it up you can run without water heat" But
> > when
> > > the
> > > >temp drops below 65 degrees your carb will condensate. So hook it up!
> > >
> > > do I need a plate to mount the carb to that has a water jacket on it
or
> > > something like that? any help would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > B.
> > >
> >
> > These are pretty common items. If you have a Holley 4 barrel, then you
can
> > use the Ford plate that was used on the Motor square bore carb. They use
> the
> > same bolt pattern. If you have a different carb, then you'll just have
to
> > find one that matches your carb flange. Post back with the exact carb
you
> > have and that will help locate the proper part.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
>
>
02-01-2004, 12:30 PM
#15
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Posts: n/a
Re: piping heat into clifford performance intake
Probably the best thing to do. The Holley 2300 shares the same bolt pattern
with the Motorcraft 2 barrel, so that plate would work with your existing
carb. If the Weber requires an adapter plate, then I would get the proper
coolant plate so that it sits directly under the carb instead of below the
adapter plate. There should be one available for your application. You may
also want to incorporate a shutoff valve to the hose that supplies the carb
with warm coolant. This way in the summer time you can turn it off to
prevent the carb from boiling and possibly vapor locking.
Chris
"brad smith" <bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
news:Ct8Tb.23071$M81.22147@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> I have a Holley 2300 which is a 2 bbl 500cfm carb. I am going to replace
it
> with a lower cfm Webber, prob. a 38. I guess I should probably wait for
the
> new carb to get plate then.
>
> B.
>
>
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:bj0Tb.8819$2h.7165@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >
> > "brad smith" <bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
> > news:Qb0Tb.22306$M81.2418@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > I have a Clifford Performance intake but no heat to my Holley carb and
> it
> > is
> > > starting to freeze over in this cold weather here in KC. the Clifford
> > site
> > > says:
> > >
> > > >"If you do not want to hook it up you can run without water heat" But
> > when
> > > the
> > > >temp drops below 65 degrees your carb will condensate. So hook it up!
> > >
> > > do I need a plate to mount the carb to that has a water jacket on it
or
> > > something like that? any help would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > B.
> > >
> >
> > These are pretty common items. If you have a Holley 4 barrel, then you
can
> > use the Ford plate that was used on the Motor square bore carb. They use
> the
> > same bolt pattern. If you have a different carb, then you'll just have
to
> > find one that matches your carb flange. Post back with the exact carb
you
> > have and that will help locate the proper part.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
>
>
02-01-2004, 12:30 PM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: piping heat into clifford performance intake
Probably the best thing to do. The Holley 2300 shares the same bolt pattern
with the Motorcraft 2 barrel, so that plate would work with your existing
carb. If the Weber requires an adapter plate, then I would get the proper
coolant plate so that it sits directly under the carb instead of below the
adapter plate. There should be one available for your application. You may
also want to incorporate a shutoff valve to the hose that supplies the carb
with warm coolant. This way in the summer time you can turn it off to
prevent the carb from boiling and possibly vapor locking.
Chris
"brad smith" <bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
news:Ct8Tb.23071$M81.22147@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> I have a Holley 2300 which is a 2 bbl 500cfm carb. I am going to replace
it
> with a lower cfm Webber, prob. a 38. I guess I should probably wait for
the
> new carb to get plate then.
>
> B.
>
>
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:bj0Tb.8819$2h.7165@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >
> > "brad smith" <bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
> > news:Qb0Tb.22306$M81.2418@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > I have a Clifford Performance intake but no heat to my Holley carb and
> it
> > is
> > > starting to freeze over in this cold weather here in KC. the Clifford
> > site
> > > says:
> > >
> > > >"If you do not want to hook it up you can run without water heat" But
> > when
> > > the
> > > >temp drops below 65 degrees your carb will condensate. So hook it up!
> > >
> > > do I need a plate to mount the carb to that has a water jacket on it
or
> > > something like that? any help would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > B.
> > >
> >
> > These are pretty common items. If you have a Holley 4 barrel, then you
can
> > use the Ford plate that was used on the Motor square bore carb. They use
> the
> > same bolt pattern. If you have a different carb, then you'll just have
to
> > find one that matches your carb flange. Post back with the exact carb
you
> > have and that will help locate the proper part.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
>
>
02-02-2004, 12:38 AM
#17
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Posts: n/a
Re: piping heat into clifford performance intake
here is what I have for an intake:
http://home.kc.rr.com/jeepcj7/20.jpg
and here is a shot of the carb w/ air cleaner mounted to the intake:
http://home.kc.rr.com/jeepcj7/35.jpg
there are also some pictures of my header replacement at
http://home.kc.rr.com/jeepcj7
they are large so use a high-speed connection.
hope that answers some the questions and thanks so much for the help guys!
Brad.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:401D1B1A.78C0167F@sympatico.ca...
> Does your intake itself not have the water jacket?
>
> The water lines have nothing to do with the carb or it's base plate, the
> water runs through the manifold, then out the back to the heater core
> inside.
>
> It is in 'series' with the heater core so it doesn't rely on the
> thermostat in any way, the heater hose bypasses the t-stat.
>
> You also likely need a hot air intake for the air filter. You must have
> that to pass emissions around here and I don't care how hot the intake
> manifold or carb base is, it 'will' freeze up without the hot air
> intake.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> brad smith wrote:
> >
> > I have a Holley 2300 which is a 2 bbl 500cfm carb. I am going to
replace it
> > with a lower cfm Webber, prob. a 38. I guess I should probably wait for
the
> > new carb to get plate then.
> >
> > B.
> >
> > "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> > news:bj0Tb.8819$2h.7165@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > >
> > > "brad smith" <bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Qb0Tb.22306$M81.2418@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > > I have a Clifford Performance intake but no heat to my Holley carb
and
> > it
> > > is
> > > > starting to freeze over in this cold weather here in KC. the
Clifford
> > > site
> > > > says:
> > > >
> > > > >"If you do not want to hook it up you can run without water heat"
But
> > > when
> > > > the
> > > > >temp drops below 65 degrees your carb will condensate. So hook it
up!
> > > >
> > > > do I need a plate to mount the carb to that has a water jacket on it
or
> > > > something like that? any help would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > B.
> > > >
> > >
> > > These are pretty common items. If you have a Holley 4 barrel, then you
can
> > > use the Ford plate that was used on the Motor square bore carb. They
use
> > the
> > > same bolt pattern. If you have a different carb, then you'll just have
to
> > > find one that matches your carb flange. Post back with the exact carb
you
> > > have and that will help locate the proper part.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
http://home.kc.rr.com/jeepcj7/20.jpg
and here is a shot of the carb w/ air cleaner mounted to the intake:
http://home.kc.rr.com/jeepcj7/35.jpg
there are also some pictures of my header replacement at
http://home.kc.rr.com/jeepcj7
they are large so use a high-speed connection.
hope that answers some the questions and thanks so much for the help guys!
Brad.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:401D1B1A.78C0167F@sympatico.ca...
> Does your intake itself not have the water jacket?
>
> The water lines have nothing to do with the carb or it's base plate, the
> water runs through the manifold, then out the back to the heater core
> inside.
>
> It is in 'series' with the heater core so it doesn't rely on the
> thermostat in any way, the heater hose bypasses the t-stat.
>
> You also likely need a hot air intake for the air filter. You must have
> that to pass emissions around here and I don't care how hot the intake
> manifold or carb base is, it 'will' freeze up without the hot air
> intake.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> brad smith wrote:
> >
> > I have a Holley 2300 which is a 2 bbl 500cfm carb. I am going to
replace it
> > with a lower cfm Webber, prob. a 38. I guess I should probably wait for
the
> > new carb to get plate then.
> >
> > B.
> >
> > "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> > news:bj0Tb.8819$2h.7165@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > >
> > > "brad smith" <bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Qb0Tb.22306$M81.2418@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > > I have a Clifford Performance intake but no heat to my Holley carb
and
> > it
> > > is
> > > > starting to freeze over in this cold weather here in KC. the
Clifford
> > > site
> > > > says:
> > > >
> > > > >"If you do not want to hook it up you can run without water heat"
But
> > > when
> > > > the
> > > > >temp drops below 65 degrees your carb will condensate. So hook it
up!
> > > >
> > > > do I need a plate to mount the carb to that has a water jacket on it
or
> > > > something like that? any help would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > B.
> > > >
> > >
> > > These are pretty common items. If you have a Holley 4 barrel, then you
can
> > > use the Ford plate that was used on the Motor square bore carb. They
use
> > the
> > > same bolt pattern. If you have a different carb, then you'll just have
to
> > > find one that matches your carb flange. Post back with the exact carb
you
> > > have and that will help locate the proper part.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
02-02-2004, 12:38 AM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: piping heat into clifford performance intake
here is what I have for an intake:
http://home.kc.rr.com/jeepcj7/20.jpg
and here is a shot of the carb w/ air cleaner mounted to the intake:
http://home.kc.rr.com/jeepcj7/35.jpg
there are also some pictures of my header replacement at
http://home.kc.rr.com/jeepcj7
they are large so use a high-speed connection.
hope that answers some the questions and thanks so much for the help guys!
Brad.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:401D1B1A.78C0167F@sympatico.ca...
> Does your intake itself not have the water jacket?
>
> The water lines have nothing to do with the carb or it's base plate, the
> water runs through the manifold, then out the back to the heater core
> inside.
>
> It is in 'series' with the heater core so it doesn't rely on the
> thermostat in any way, the heater hose bypasses the t-stat.
>
> You also likely need a hot air intake for the air filter. You must have
> that to pass emissions around here and I don't care how hot the intake
> manifold or carb base is, it 'will' freeze up without the hot air
> intake.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> brad smith wrote:
> >
> > I have a Holley 2300 which is a 2 bbl 500cfm carb. I am going to
replace it
> > with a lower cfm Webber, prob. a 38. I guess I should probably wait for
the
> > new carb to get plate then.
> >
> > B.
> >
> > "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> > news:bj0Tb.8819$2h.7165@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > >
> > > "brad smith" <bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Qb0Tb.22306$M81.2418@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > > I have a Clifford Performance intake but no heat to my Holley carb
and
> > it
> > > is
> > > > starting to freeze over in this cold weather here in KC. the
Clifford
> > > site
> > > > says:
> > > >
> > > > >"If you do not want to hook it up you can run without water heat"
But
> > > when
> > > > the
> > > > >temp drops below 65 degrees your carb will condensate. So hook it
up!
> > > >
> > > > do I need a plate to mount the carb to that has a water jacket on it
or
> > > > something like that? any help would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > B.
> > > >
> > >
> > > These are pretty common items. If you have a Holley 4 barrel, then you
can
> > > use the Ford plate that was used on the Motor square bore carb. They
use
> > the
> > > same bolt pattern. If you have a different carb, then you'll just have
to
> > > find one that matches your carb flange. Post back with the exact carb
you
> > > have and that will help locate the proper part.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
http://home.kc.rr.com/jeepcj7/20.jpg
and here is a shot of the carb w/ air cleaner mounted to the intake:
http://home.kc.rr.com/jeepcj7/35.jpg
there are also some pictures of my header replacement at
http://home.kc.rr.com/jeepcj7
they are large so use a high-speed connection.
hope that answers some the questions and thanks so much for the help guys!
Brad.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:401D1B1A.78C0167F@sympatico.ca...
> Does your intake itself not have the water jacket?
>
> The water lines have nothing to do with the carb or it's base plate, the
> water runs through the manifold, then out the back to the heater core
> inside.
>
> It is in 'series' with the heater core so it doesn't rely on the
> thermostat in any way, the heater hose bypasses the t-stat.
>
> You also likely need a hot air intake for the air filter. You must have
> that to pass emissions around here and I don't care how hot the intake
> manifold or carb base is, it 'will' freeze up without the hot air
> intake.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> brad smith wrote:
> >
> > I have a Holley 2300 which is a 2 bbl 500cfm carb. I am going to
replace it
> > with a lower cfm Webber, prob. a 38. I guess I should probably wait for
the
> > new carb to get plate then.
> >
> > B.
> >
> > "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> > news:bj0Tb.8819$2h.7165@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > >
> > > "brad smith" <bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Qb0Tb.22306$M81.2418@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > > I have a Clifford Performance intake but no heat to my Holley carb
and
> > it
> > > is
> > > > starting to freeze over in this cold weather here in KC. the
Clifford
> > > site
> > > > says:
> > > >
> > > > >"If you do not want to hook it up you can run without water heat"
But
> > > when
> > > > the
> > > > >temp drops below 65 degrees your carb will condensate. So hook it
up!
> > > >
> > > > do I need a plate to mount the carb to that has a water jacket on it
or
> > > > something like that? any help would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > B.
> > > >
> > >
> > > These are pretty common items. If you have a Holley 4 barrel, then you
can
> > > use the Ford plate that was used on the Motor square bore carb. They
use
> > the
> > > same bolt pattern. If you have a different carb, then you'll just have
to
> > > find one that matches your carb flange. Post back with the exact carb
you
> > > have and that will help locate the proper part.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
02-02-2004, 12:38 AM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: piping heat into clifford performance intake
here is what I have for an intake:
http://home.kc.rr.com/jeepcj7/20.jpg
and here is a shot of the carb w/ air cleaner mounted to the intake:
http://home.kc.rr.com/jeepcj7/35.jpg
there are also some pictures of my header replacement at
http://home.kc.rr.com/jeepcj7
they are large so use a high-speed connection.
hope that answers some the questions and thanks so much for the help guys!
Brad.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:401D1B1A.78C0167F@sympatico.ca...
> Does your intake itself not have the water jacket?
>
> The water lines have nothing to do with the carb or it's base plate, the
> water runs through the manifold, then out the back to the heater core
> inside.
>
> It is in 'series' with the heater core so it doesn't rely on the
> thermostat in any way, the heater hose bypasses the t-stat.
>
> You also likely need a hot air intake for the air filter. You must have
> that to pass emissions around here and I don't care how hot the intake
> manifold or carb base is, it 'will' freeze up without the hot air
> intake.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> brad smith wrote:
> >
> > I have a Holley 2300 which is a 2 bbl 500cfm carb. I am going to
replace it
> > with a lower cfm Webber, prob. a 38. I guess I should probably wait for
the
> > new carb to get plate then.
> >
> > B.
> >
> > "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> > news:bj0Tb.8819$2h.7165@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > >
> > > "brad smith" <bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Qb0Tb.22306$M81.2418@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > > I have a Clifford Performance intake but no heat to my Holley carb
and
> > it
> > > is
> > > > starting to freeze over in this cold weather here in KC. the
Clifford
> > > site
> > > > says:
> > > >
> > > > >"If you do not want to hook it up you can run without water heat"
But
> > > when
> > > > the
> > > > >temp drops below 65 degrees your carb will condensate. So hook it
up!
> > > >
> > > > do I need a plate to mount the carb to that has a water jacket on it
or
> > > > something like that? any help would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > B.
> > > >
> > >
> > > These are pretty common items. If you have a Holley 4 barrel, then you
can
> > > use the Ford plate that was used on the Motor square bore carb. They
use
> > the
> > > same bolt pattern. If you have a different carb, then you'll just have
to
> > > find one that matches your carb flange. Post back with the exact carb
you
> > > have and that will help locate the proper part.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
http://home.kc.rr.com/jeepcj7/20.jpg
and here is a shot of the carb w/ air cleaner mounted to the intake:
http://home.kc.rr.com/jeepcj7/35.jpg
there are also some pictures of my header replacement at
http://home.kc.rr.com/jeepcj7
they are large so use a high-speed connection.
hope that answers some the questions and thanks so much for the help guys!
Brad.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:401D1B1A.78C0167F@sympatico.ca...
> Does your intake itself not have the water jacket?
>
> The water lines have nothing to do with the carb or it's base plate, the
> water runs through the manifold, then out the back to the heater core
> inside.
>
> It is in 'series' with the heater core so it doesn't rely on the
> thermostat in any way, the heater hose bypasses the t-stat.
>
> You also likely need a hot air intake for the air filter. You must have
> that to pass emissions around here and I don't care how hot the intake
> manifold or carb base is, it 'will' freeze up without the hot air
> intake.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> brad smith wrote:
> >
> > I have a Holley 2300 which is a 2 bbl 500cfm carb. I am going to
replace it
> > with a lower cfm Webber, prob. a 38. I guess I should probably wait for
the
> > new carb to get plate then.
> >
> > B.
> >
> > "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> > news:bj0Tb.8819$2h.7165@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > >
> > > "brad smith" <bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Qb0Tb.22306$M81.2418@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > > I have a Clifford Performance intake but no heat to my Holley carb
and
> > it
> > > is
> > > > starting to freeze over in this cold weather here in KC. the
Clifford
> > > site
> > > > says:
> > > >
> > > > >"If you do not want to hook it up you can run without water heat"
But
> > > when
> > > > the
> > > > >temp drops below 65 degrees your carb will condensate. So hook it
up!
> > > >
> > > > do I need a plate to mount the carb to that has a water jacket on it
or
> > > > something like that? any help would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > B.
> > > >
> > >
> > > These are pretty common items. If you have a Holley 4 barrel, then you
can
> > > use the Ford plate that was used on the Motor square bore carb. They
use
> > the
> > > same bolt pattern. If you have a different carb, then you'll just have
to
> > > find one that matches your carb flange. Post back with the exact carb
you
> > > have and that will help locate the proper part.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
02-02-2004, 02:27 AM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: piping heat into clifford performance intake
My Clifford intake manifold had the water inlet & outlet on a plate
covering a small hollow area on the bottom of the manifold.
You can either run a short piece of metal brake line from the exhaust
manifold to transport hot air to heat the manifold or you can route a
coolant line through it as I did. My Weber carb has a coolant
controlled choke so I routed it through that as well.
I went from a rough running motor with ice forming under the manifold
to a smooth running machine.
When its really hot out it acts to cool the intake manifold and
prevents it from overheating.
I ended up taking off the manifold to see the hookups underneath it.
Once off it was easy enough to see what type of adaptors were needed.
You may find the heat riser line from the exhaust manifold sufficient
for your needs and a lot easier to engineer.
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 05:32:32 GMT, "brad smith"
<bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote:
>I have a Clifford Performance intake but no heat to my Holley carb and it is
>starting to freeze over in this cold weather here in KC. the Clifford site
>says:
>
>>"If you do not want to hook it up you can run without water heat" But when
>the
>>temp drops below 65 degrees your carb will condensate. So hook it up!
>
>do I need a plate to mount the carb to that has a water jacket on it or
>something like that? any help would be appreciated.
>
>B.
>
covering a small hollow area on the bottom of the manifold.
You can either run a short piece of metal brake line from the exhaust
manifold to transport hot air to heat the manifold or you can route a
coolant line through it as I did. My Weber carb has a coolant
controlled choke so I routed it through that as well.
I went from a rough running motor with ice forming under the manifold
to a smooth running machine.
When its really hot out it acts to cool the intake manifold and
prevents it from overheating.
I ended up taking off the manifold to see the hookups underneath it.
Once off it was easy enough to see what type of adaptors were needed.
You may find the heat riser line from the exhaust manifold sufficient
for your needs and a lot easier to engineer.
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 05:32:32 GMT, "brad smith"
<bradley_k_smith@hotmaill.com> wrote:
>I have a Clifford Performance intake but no heat to my Holley carb and it is
>starting to freeze over in this cold weather here in KC. the Clifford site
>says:
>
>>"If you do not want to hook it up you can run without water heat" But when
>the
>>temp drops below 65 degrees your carb will condensate. So hook it up!
>
>do I need a plate to mount the carb to that has a water jacket on it or
>something like that? any help would be appreciated.
>
>B.
>