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L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 04-21-2006 08:21 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
LOL I'm saving that commit. :-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Save it for a couple of years. It will begin to make sense sooner or later.
> I think you're just too damn independent, to fit in anywhere, even in
> Montana.
>
> That's not entirely a bad thing. ;^)
>
> Earle


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 04-21-2006 08:21 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
LOL I'm saving that commit. :-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Save it for a couple of years. It will begin to make sense sooner or later.
> I think you're just too damn independent, to fit in anywhere, even in
> Montana.
>
> That's not entirely a bad thing. ;^)
>
> Earle


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 04-21-2006 08:21 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
LOL I'm saving that commit. :-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Save it for a couple of years. It will begin to make sense sooner or later.
> I think you're just too damn independent, to fit in anywhere, even in
> Montana.
>
> That's not entirely a bad thing. ;^)
>
> Earle


Nathan W. Collier 04-21-2006 08:22 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44495fb6$0$24465$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Anyway, I have read several times, that there have been no documented
> attacks of wolves, on humans. I assume that this is still true.


http://www.wolfpark.org/Articles/Wyman.html

"On Thursday 18. April 1996 Ms. Patricia Wyman, 24 years old, was attacked
and killed by five adult North American grey wolves (Canis lupus ssp.) at
the HALIBURTON FOREST and WILDLIFE RESERVE"

http://www.usa4id.com/Documents/Docu...%20Attacks.htm

"In northwestern Colorado, an 18-year-old girl was viciously attacked while
bringing in milk cows, she screamed and her brother, who was nearby armed
with a gun responded to the scene and killed the Wolf. The wolf was a
healthy young animal barely full-grown."

from 2005 http://www.cbc.ca/sask/story/wolf-attack051110.html
"It was likely wolves that killed an Ontario man in northern Saskatchewan
earlier this week, the RCMP says."

http://www.fieldandstream.com/fields...143151,00.html
<-- read that one

this was just after a quick internet search. the "wolf never killed a man"
is a lie ------ by the pro-wolf crowd.



>> i wouldnt have a problem with it earle, if they ate what they killed. i
>> didnt grow to hate wolves until i stumbled across
>>

> ---Where's the rest of it?---


i didnt grow to hate wolves until i saw FIRST HAND the damage they cause to
the eco system. if you looked at the pictures i posted of the elk herds,
notice that you didnt see a single calf amongst them.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com



Nathan W. Collier 04-21-2006 08:22 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44495fb6$0$24465$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Anyway, I have read several times, that there have been no documented
> attacks of wolves, on humans. I assume that this is still true.


http://www.wolfpark.org/Articles/Wyman.html

"On Thursday 18. April 1996 Ms. Patricia Wyman, 24 years old, was attacked
and killed by five adult North American grey wolves (Canis lupus ssp.) at
the HALIBURTON FOREST and WILDLIFE RESERVE"

http://www.usa4id.com/Documents/Docu...%20Attacks.htm

"In northwestern Colorado, an 18-year-old girl was viciously attacked while
bringing in milk cows, she screamed and her brother, who was nearby armed
with a gun responded to the scene and killed the Wolf. The wolf was a
healthy young animal barely full-grown."

from 2005 http://www.cbc.ca/sask/story/wolf-attack051110.html
"It was likely wolves that killed an Ontario man in northern Saskatchewan
earlier this week, the RCMP says."

http://www.fieldandstream.com/fields...143151,00.html
<-- read that one

this was just after a quick internet search. the "wolf never killed a man"
is a lie ------ by the pro-wolf crowd.



>> i wouldnt have a problem with it earle, if they ate what they killed. i
>> didnt grow to hate wolves until i stumbled across
>>

> ---Where's the rest of it?---


i didnt grow to hate wolves until i saw FIRST HAND the damage they cause to
the eco system. if you looked at the pictures i posted of the elk herds,
notice that you didnt see a single calf amongst them.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com



Nathan W. Collier 04-21-2006 08:22 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44495fb6$0$24465$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Anyway, I have read several times, that there have been no documented
> attacks of wolves, on humans. I assume that this is still true.


http://www.wolfpark.org/Articles/Wyman.html

"On Thursday 18. April 1996 Ms. Patricia Wyman, 24 years old, was attacked
and killed by five adult North American grey wolves (Canis lupus ssp.) at
the HALIBURTON FOREST and WILDLIFE RESERVE"

http://www.usa4id.com/Documents/Docu...%20Attacks.htm

"In northwestern Colorado, an 18-year-old girl was viciously attacked while
bringing in milk cows, she screamed and her brother, who was nearby armed
with a gun responded to the scene and killed the Wolf. The wolf was a
healthy young animal barely full-grown."

from 2005 http://www.cbc.ca/sask/story/wolf-attack051110.html
"It was likely wolves that killed an Ontario man in northern Saskatchewan
earlier this week, the RCMP says."

http://www.fieldandstream.com/fields...143151,00.html
<-- read that one

this was just after a quick internet search. the "wolf never killed a man"
is a lie ------ by the pro-wolf crowd.



>> i wouldnt have a problem with it earle, if they ate what they killed. i
>> didnt grow to hate wolves until i stumbled across
>>

> ---Where's the rest of it?---


i didnt grow to hate wolves until i saw FIRST HAND the damage they cause to
the eco system. if you looked at the pictures i posted of the elk herds,
notice that you didnt see a single calf amongst them.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com



L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 04-21-2006 08:25 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
Damn right! Now if man's best could only live a life time with us,
and without hip dysplasia. :-(
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Spdloader wrote:
>
> There is, in my opinion, only the German Shepherd. All other dogs are
> pretenders to the throne.
>
> Sound like I'm biased?
>
> You bet!
>
> Spdloader


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 04-21-2006 08:25 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
Damn right! Now if man's best could only live a life time with us,
and without hip dysplasia. :-(
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Spdloader wrote:
>
> There is, in my opinion, only the German Shepherd. All other dogs are
> pretenders to the throne.
>
> Sound like I'm biased?
>
> You bet!
>
> Spdloader


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 04-21-2006 08:25 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
Damn right! Now if man's best could only live a life time with us,
and without hip dysplasia. :-(
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Spdloader wrote:
>
> There is, in my opinion, only the German Shepherd. All other dogs are
> pretenders to the throne.
>
> Sound like I'm biased?
>
> You bet!
>
> Spdloader


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 04-21-2006 08:29 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
Hi Sandman,
People move to Kalifornia, too and proceed to change things to the
Hell they left behind.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> heh....nah, i fit in up here (where "free" means FREE) pretty
> well.......cept with those californians that move in with the attitude that
> theyre going to "change things".
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 04-21-2006 08:29 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
Hi Sandman,
People move to Kalifornia, too and proceed to change things to the
Hell they left behind.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> heh....nah, i fit in up here (where "free" means FREE) pretty
> well.......cept with those californians that move in with the attitude that
> theyre going to "change things".
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 04-21-2006 08:29 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
Hi Sandman,
People move to Kalifornia, too and proceed to change things to the
Hell they left behind.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> heh....nah, i fit in up here (where "free" means FREE) pretty
> well.......cept with those californians that move in with the attitude that
> theyre going to "change things".
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com


Nathan W. Collier 04-21-2006 08:31 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
news:Hge2g.25977$Kh5.12081@bignews8.bellsouth.net. ..
> An animal cannot be consciously Evil.


you dont have to be conciously evil to be evil. i judge _anything_ by its
actions. i deem you "evil" if you do "evil" things, i dont care if it were
a conscious decision or not.


> Blowing up an abortion clinic is insane.


as is pulling a baby half out of the mothers womb before scrambling its
brains just before running down to protest the execution of tookie williams.
kill the baby, save the convicted killer......_thats_ insane.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com



Nathan W. Collier 04-21-2006 08:31 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
news:Hge2g.25977$Kh5.12081@bignews8.bellsouth.net. ..
> An animal cannot be consciously Evil.


you dont have to be conciously evil to be evil. i judge _anything_ by its
actions. i deem you "evil" if you do "evil" things, i dont care if it were
a conscious decision or not.


> Blowing up an abortion clinic is insane.


as is pulling a baby half out of the mothers womb before scrambling its
brains just before running down to protest the execution of tookie williams.
kill the baby, save the convicted killer......_thats_ insane.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com



Nathan W. Collier 04-21-2006 08:31 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
news:Hge2g.25977$Kh5.12081@bignews8.bellsouth.net. ..
> An animal cannot be consciously Evil.


you dont have to be conciously evil to be evil. i judge _anything_ by its
actions. i deem you "evil" if you do "evil" things, i dont care if it were
a conscious decision or not.


> Blowing up an abortion clinic is insane.


as is pulling a baby half out of the mothers womb before scrambling its
brains just before running down to protest the execution of tookie williams.
kill the baby, save the convicted killer......_thats_ insane.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com



Nathan W. Collier 04-21-2006 08:32 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3ie2g.19$P65.1@southeast.rr.com...
> There is, in my opinion, only the German Shepherd. All other dogs are
> pretenders to the throne.


i agree that german shepherds are great dogs. my two outside dogs are
austrailian shepherds, but when my old jeep dog passes my next off roading
partner will be a long haired german shepherd.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com



Nathan W. Collier 04-21-2006 08:32 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3ie2g.19$P65.1@southeast.rr.com...
> There is, in my opinion, only the German Shepherd. All other dogs are
> pretenders to the throne.


i agree that german shepherds are great dogs. my two outside dogs are
austrailian shepherds, but when my old jeep dog passes my next off roading
partner will be a long haired german shepherd.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com



Nathan W. Collier 04-21-2006 08:32 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3ie2g.19$P65.1@southeast.rr.com...
> There is, in my opinion, only the German Shepherd. All other dogs are
> pretenders to the throne.


i agree that german shepherds are great dogs. my two outside dogs are
austrailian shepherds, but when my old jeep dog passes my next off roading
partner will be a long haired german shepherd.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com



L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 04-21-2006 08:33 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
A coyote in heat, here will entice a dog to follow it out where
their pack will eat it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Kate wrote:
>
> Well, we don't have wolves around here as far as I know but we do have
> coyotes.
> When we first moved here our neighbors had this annoying black lab.
> He was stupid, barked all the time ALL the damn time and would run until his
> heart exploded chasing sticks if he could get you to throw one for him.
> He was really kind of pathetic. I think that if someone had given him the
> attention he needed when he was a pup he might have been a good junting dog.
> Anyway...
>
> They tied him up one night when they went out. Something they rarely did
> because he was known to get loose anyway.
>
> When they got home they found him still tied to the tree and torn to pieces.
> A pack of coyotes killed him.
> I didn't much like the dog, but I wouldn't have killed him. Damned if I like
> the thought of any critter dying like that.
>
> I see an occasional coyote cross our field in front of the house now and
> then and think that I ought to go grab my .22 and take a shot at it.
> Then I think to myself that those same stupid neighbors have a litter of
> pups down there that are starting to run in a pack and that maybe the
> coyotes will get them instead. Stupid people.
>
> So, I don't shoot the coyotes cause they might do my dirty work for me.
>
> I just hope that they don't get my cats.
>
> Kate


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 04-21-2006 08:33 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
A coyote in heat, here will entice a dog to follow it out where
their pack will eat it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Kate wrote:
>
> Well, we don't have wolves around here as far as I know but we do have
> coyotes.
> When we first moved here our neighbors had this annoying black lab.
> He was stupid, barked all the time ALL the damn time and would run until his
> heart exploded chasing sticks if he could get you to throw one for him.
> He was really kind of pathetic. I think that if someone had given him the
> attention he needed when he was a pup he might have been a good junting dog.
> Anyway...
>
> They tied him up one night when they went out. Something they rarely did
> because he was known to get loose anyway.
>
> When they got home they found him still tied to the tree and torn to pieces.
> A pack of coyotes killed him.
> I didn't much like the dog, but I wouldn't have killed him. Damned if I like
> the thought of any critter dying like that.
>
> I see an occasional coyote cross our field in front of the house now and
> then and think that I ought to go grab my .22 and take a shot at it.
> Then I think to myself that those same stupid neighbors have a litter of
> pups down there that are starting to run in a pack and that maybe the
> coyotes will get them instead. Stupid people.
>
> So, I don't shoot the coyotes cause they might do my dirty work for me.
>
> I just hope that they don't get my cats.
>
> Kate


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 04-21-2006 08:33 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
A coyote in heat, here will entice a dog to follow it out where
their pack will eat it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Kate wrote:
>
> Well, we don't have wolves around here as far as I know but we do have
> coyotes.
> When we first moved here our neighbors had this annoying black lab.
> He was stupid, barked all the time ALL the damn time and would run until his
> heart exploded chasing sticks if he could get you to throw one for him.
> He was really kind of pathetic. I think that if someone had given him the
> attention he needed when he was a pup he might have been a good junting dog.
> Anyway...
>
> They tied him up one night when they went out. Something they rarely did
> because he was known to get loose anyway.
>
> When they got home they found him still tied to the tree and torn to pieces.
> A pack of coyotes killed him.
> I didn't much like the dog, but I wouldn't have killed him. Damned if I like
> the thought of any critter dying like that.
>
> I see an occasional coyote cross our field in front of the house now and
> then and think that I ought to go grab my .22 and take a shot at it.
> Then I think to myself that those same stupid neighbors have a litter of
> pups down there that are starting to run in a pack and that maybe the
> coyotes will get them instead. Stupid people.
>
> So, I don't shoot the coyotes cause they might do my dirty work for me.
>
> I just hope that they don't get my cats.
>
> Kate


Nathan W. Collier 04-21-2006 08:34 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:dIe2g.64$2i5.10175@news.uswest.net...
> if you looked at the pictures i posted of the elk herds, notice that you
> didnt see a single calf amongst them.


er, im referencing the pictures and video i took of the live elk, not the
pictures i posted of the slaughtered elk.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com



Nathan W. Collier 04-21-2006 08:34 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:dIe2g.64$2i5.10175@news.uswest.net...
> if you looked at the pictures i posted of the elk herds, notice that you
> didnt see a single calf amongst them.


er, im referencing the pictures and video i took of the live elk, not the
pictures i posted of the slaughtered elk.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com



Nathan W. Collier 04-21-2006 08:34 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:dIe2g.64$2i5.10175@news.uswest.net...
> if you looked at the pictures i posted of the elk herds, notice that you
> didnt see a single calf amongst them.


er, im referencing the pictures and video i took of the live elk, not the
pictures i posted of the slaughtered elk.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com



billy ray 04-21-2006 08:35 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
I've never had a 'brand name' dog. We always had big dogs, little dogs,
black dogs, brown dogs, spotted dogs, short haired dogs, long hair dogs,
cute dogs, or ugly dogs...
The only things they had in common was that they were free and most commonly
'used'....




"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3ie2g.19$P65.1@southeast.rr.com...
> There is, in my opinion, only the German Shepherd. All other dogs are
> pretenders to the throne.
>
> Sound like I'm biased?
>
> You bet!
>
> Spdloader
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44496879$0$24459$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> Coyotes get around. There were sightings in Western Massachusetts when I
>> lived there, about 1978. One problem is that they tend to breed with
>> domestic dogs, if they are in an area where they are not established, and
>> they can't find another coyote to mate with. The result is called a
>> "coydog", but I like to call them "dogote". The problem is that the
>> hybrid
>> bitches go into heat twice a year, like the domestic dog, and have
>> litters
>> at the wrong time of year for a wild animal. This tends to slow the
>> ------
>> of coyotes.
>>
>> People have made pets of the hybrids, but you have to remember, that they
>> are not really dogs. They have the same sorts of management problems,
>> that
>> wolf/dog hybrids present.
>>
>> You could have seen a pioneer to your area, or a hybrid.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:8wd2g.17$P65.10@southeast.rr.com...
>>> Coyote's (spell?) are not supposed to be here in the Central Piedmont of

>> NC.
>>>
>>> Spdloader
>>>
>>>
>>> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:44495e2a$0$24427$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>>> > "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> > news:mUb2g.11$P65.2@southeast.rr.com...
>>> >> > I do not claim to "understand" the wilderness, but I do tolerate it
>>> >> > a
>>> >> > lot better than you do. I don't have plans to kill all the wolves,
>>> > lynx,
>>> >> > cougars, bear, rattlesnakes, and anything else that has claws or

>> teeth
>>> >> > to defend itself, and turn the place into another North Carolina.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> You apparently haven't been to the part of NC I live in Earl.
>>> >>
>>> >> We've got all the wildlife, even saw, SAW, a coyote, get hit by a
>>> >> car,
>>> >> on hwy 311 in south High Point.
>>> >>
>>> > I can see them from my window. At dawn in the winter they play in the
>>> > field
>>> > where the summer motor home park is. At dusk sometimes they wander
>>> > down
>>> > Blair Street, looking for stray dogs or cats, I guess.
>>> >
>>> > Earle
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




billy ray 04-21-2006 08:35 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
I've never had a 'brand name' dog. We always had big dogs, little dogs,
black dogs, brown dogs, spotted dogs, short haired dogs, long hair dogs,
cute dogs, or ugly dogs...
The only things they had in common was that they were free and most commonly
'used'....




"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3ie2g.19$P65.1@southeast.rr.com...
> There is, in my opinion, only the German Shepherd. All other dogs are
> pretenders to the throne.
>
> Sound like I'm biased?
>
> You bet!
>
> Spdloader
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44496879$0$24459$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> Coyotes get around. There were sightings in Western Massachusetts when I
>> lived there, about 1978. One problem is that they tend to breed with
>> domestic dogs, if they are in an area where they are not established, and
>> they can't find another coyote to mate with. The result is called a
>> "coydog", but I like to call them "dogote". The problem is that the
>> hybrid
>> bitches go into heat twice a year, like the domestic dog, and have
>> litters
>> at the wrong time of year for a wild animal. This tends to slow the
>> ------
>> of coyotes.
>>
>> People have made pets of the hybrids, but you have to remember, that they
>> are not really dogs. They have the same sorts of management problems,
>> that
>> wolf/dog hybrids present.
>>
>> You could have seen a pioneer to your area, or a hybrid.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:8wd2g.17$P65.10@southeast.rr.com...
>>> Coyote's (spell?) are not supposed to be here in the Central Piedmont of

>> NC.
>>>
>>> Spdloader
>>>
>>>
>>> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:44495e2a$0$24427$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>>> > "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> > news:mUb2g.11$P65.2@southeast.rr.com...
>>> >> > I do not claim to "understand" the wilderness, but I do tolerate it
>>> >> > a
>>> >> > lot better than you do. I don't have plans to kill all the wolves,
>>> > lynx,
>>> >> > cougars, bear, rattlesnakes, and anything else that has claws or

>> teeth
>>> >> > to defend itself, and turn the place into another North Carolina.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> You apparently haven't been to the part of NC I live in Earl.
>>> >>
>>> >> We've got all the wildlife, even saw, SAW, a coyote, get hit by a
>>> >> car,
>>> >> on hwy 311 in south High Point.
>>> >>
>>> > I can see them from my window. At dawn in the winter they play in the
>>> > field
>>> > where the summer motor home park is. At dusk sometimes they wander
>>> > down
>>> > Blair Street, looking for stray dogs or cats, I guess.
>>> >
>>> > Earle
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




billy ray 04-21-2006 08:35 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
I've never had a 'brand name' dog. We always had big dogs, little dogs,
black dogs, brown dogs, spotted dogs, short haired dogs, long hair dogs,
cute dogs, or ugly dogs...
The only things they had in common was that they were free and most commonly
'used'....




"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3ie2g.19$P65.1@southeast.rr.com...
> There is, in my opinion, only the German Shepherd. All other dogs are
> pretenders to the throne.
>
> Sound like I'm biased?
>
> You bet!
>
> Spdloader
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44496879$0$24459$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> Coyotes get around. There were sightings in Western Massachusetts when I
>> lived there, about 1978. One problem is that they tend to breed with
>> domestic dogs, if they are in an area where they are not established, and
>> they can't find another coyote to mate with. The result is called a
>> "coydog", but I like to call them "dogote". The problem is that the
>> hybrid
>> bitches go into heat twice a year, like the domestic dog, and have
>> litters
>> at the wrong time of year for a wild animal. This tends to slow the
>> ------
>> of coyotes.
>>
>> People have made pets of the hybrids, but you have to remember, that they
>> are not really dogs. They have the same sorts of management problems,
>> that
>> wolf/dog hybrids present.
>>
>> You could have seen a pioneer to your area, or a hybrid.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:8wd2g.17$P65.10@southeast.rr.com...
>>> Coyote's (spell?) are not supposed to be here in the Central Piedmont of

>> NC.
>>>
>>> Spdloader
>>>
>>>
>>> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:44495e2a$0$24427$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>>> > "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> > news:mUb2g.11$P65.2@southeast.rr.com...
>>> >> > I do not claim to "understand" the wilderness, but I do tolerate it
>>> >> > a
>>> >> > lot better than you do. I don't have plans to kill all the wolves,
>>> > lynx,
>>> >> > cougars, bear, rattlesnakes, and anything else that has claws or

>> teeth
>>> >> > to defend itself, and turn the place into another North Carolina.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> You apparently haven't been to the part of NC I live in Earl.
>>> >>
>>> >> We've got all the wildlife, even saw, SAW, a coyote, get hit by a
>>> >> car,
>>> >> on hwy 311 in south High Point.
>>> >>
>>> > I can see them from my window. At dawn in the winter they play in the
>>> > field
>>> > where the summer motor home park is. At dusk sometimes they wander
>>> > down
>>> > Blair Street, looking for stray dogs or cats, I guess.
>>> >
>>> > Earle
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 04-21-2006 08:35 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
<ROTFLMAO> You can't mean that!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> i saw an injured coyote limping on his front paw once. i stopped, got out,
> and shot him.
>
> .....right in his other front paw. :-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 04-21-2006 08:35 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
<ROTFLMAO> You can't mean that!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> i saw an injured coyote limping on his front paw once. i stopped, got out,
> and shot him.
>
> .....right in his other front paw. :-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 04-21-2006 08:35 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
<ROTFLMAO> You can't mean that!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> i saw an injured coyote limping on his front paw once. i stopped, got out,
> and shot him.
>
> .....right in his other front paw. :-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com


Nathan W. Collier 04-21-2006 08:37 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:444978D3.9811F889@cox.net...
> Hi Sandman,
> People move to Kalifornia, too and proceed to change things to the
> Hell they left behind.


i wasnt referencing all californians as bad.....just the ones who move in
*trying to change things*....sorta like what earle accused me of doing
earlier. the montana state constitution was ammended specifically to
address these issus. we now have laws that protect firing ranges from
lawsuits because a californian moved in next to one and then tried to shut
them down for noise through lawsuits. the ahnei ORV
http://utilityoffroad.com/riders/rhino/1/ahnei/ was shut down for 2 years
because a californian moved in next door to it and then started lawsuits to
get it closed down for the noise. i could go on and on.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com



Nathan W. Collier 04-21-2006 08:37 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:444978D3.9811F889@cox.net...
> Hi Sandman,
> People move to Kalifornia, too and proceed to change things to the
> Hell they left behind.


i wasnt referencing all californians as bad.....just the ones who move in
*trying to change things*....sorta like what earle accused me of doing
earlier. the montana state constitution was ammended specifically to
address these issus. we now have laws that protect firing ranges from
lawsuits because a californian moved in next to one and then tried to shut
them down for noise through lawsuits. the ahnei ORV
http://utilityoffroad.com/riders/rhino/1/ahnei/ was shut down for 2 years
because a californian moved in next door to it and then started lawsuits to
get it closed down for the noise. i could go on and on.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com



Nathan W. Collier 04-21-2006 08:37 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:444978D3.9811F889@cox.net...
> Hi Sandman,
> People move to Kalifornia, too and proceed to change things to the
> Hell they left behind.


i wasnt referencing all californians as bad.....just the ones who move in
*trying to change things*....sorta like what earle accused me of doing
earlier. the montana state constitution was ammended specifically to
address these issus. we now have laws that protect firing ranges from
lawsuits because a californian moved in next to one and then tried to shut
them down for noise through lawsuits. the ahnei ORV
http://utilityoffroad.com/riders/rhino/1/ahnei/ was shut down for 2 years
because a californian moved in next door to it and then started lawsuits to
get it closed down for the noise. i could go on and on.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com



Kate 04-21-2006 08:43 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 

"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3ie2g.19$P65.1@southeast.rr.com...
: There is, in my opinion, only the German Shepherd. All other dogs are
: pretenders to the throne.
:
: Sound like I'm biased?
:
: You bet!
:
: Spdloader
:


I have scars on my nose and chin from a bite on my face when I was about 4
years old.
It was my mother's German Shepherd. He thought he was protecting 'his horse'
from me.

My mother put a bullet in his head the dog, not the horse. She loved that
dog too. I guess she just loved me more.

They aren't large any more, I kind of grew into them then they just blended
into the ugly as I aged but they are still there.


Kate



Kate 04-21-2006 08:43 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 

"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3ie2g.19$P65.1@southeast.rr.com...
: There is, in my opinion, only the German Shepherd. All other dogs are
: pretenders to the throne.
:
: Sound like I'm biased?
:
: You bet!
:
: Spdloader
:


I have scars on my nose and chin from a bite on my face when I was about 4
years old.
It was my mother's German Shepherd. He thought he was protecting 'his horse'
from me.

My mother put a bullet in his head the dog, not the horse. She loved that
dog too. I guess she just loved me more.

They aren't large any more, I kind of grew into them then they just blended
into the ugly as I aged but they are still there.


Kate



Kate 04-21-2006 08:43 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 

"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3ie2g.19$P65.1@southeast.rr.com...
: There is, in my opinion, only the German Shepherd. All other dogs are
: pretenders to the throne.
:
: Sound like I'm biased?
:
: You bet!
:
: Spdloader
:


I have scars on my nose and chin from a bite on my face when I was about 4
years old.
It was my mother's German Shepherd. He thought he was protecting 'his horse'
from me.

My mother put a bullet in his head the dog, not the horse. She loved that
dog too. I guess she just loved me more.

They aren't large any more, I kind of grew into them then they just blended
into the ugly as I aged but they are still there.


Kate



billy ray 04-21-2006 08:49 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
The big airport in my area is buying up all the houses built in the past
couple decades.

Seems these folks claim they did not know there had been an airport there
for decades and when they viewed the model home, toured the neighborhoods,
talked to residents or realtors they never ever looked up as an airliner
flew overhead.... everyone lied to them apparently...



"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:YWe2g.68$2i5.10341@news.uswest.net...
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:444978D3.9811F889@cox.net...
>> Hi Sandman,
>> People move to Kalifornia, too and proceed to change things to the
>> Hell they left behind.

>
> i wasnt referencing all californians as bad.....just the ones who move in
> *trying to change things*....sorta like what earle accused me of doing
> earlier. the montana state constitution was ammended specifically to
> address these issus. we now have laws that protect firing ranges from
> lawsuits because a californian moved in next to one and then tried to shut
> them down for noise through lawsuits. the ahnei ORV
> http://utilityoffroad.com/riders/rhino/1/ahnei/ was shut down for 2 years
> because a californian moved in next door to it and then started lawsuits
> to get it closed down for the noise. i could go on and on.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
>




billy ray 04-21-2006 08:49 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
The big airport in my area is buying up all the houses built in the past
couple decades.

Seems these folks claim they did not know there had been an airport there
for decades and when they viewed the model home, toured the neighborhoods,
talked to residents or realtors they never ever looked up as an airliner
flew overhead.... everyone lied to them apparently...



"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:YWe2g.68$2i5.10341@news.uswest.net...
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:444978D3.9811F889@cox.net...
>> Hi Sandman,
>> People move to Kalifornia, too and proceed to change things to the
>> Hell they left behind.

>
> i wasnt referencing all californians as bad.....just the ones who move in
> *trying to change things*....sorta like what earle accused me of doing
> earlier. the montana state constitution was ammended specifically to
> address these issus. we now have laws that protect firing ranges from
> lawsuits because a californian moved in next to one and then tried to shut
> them down for noise through lawsuits. the ahnei ORV
> http://utilityoffroad.com/riders/rhino/1/ahnei/ was shut down for 2 years
> because a californian moved in next door to it and then started lawsuits
> to get it closed down for the noise. i could go on and on.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
>




billy ray 04-21-2006 08:49 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
The big airport in my area is buying up all the houses built in the past
couple decades.

Seems these folks claim they did not know there had been an airport there
for decades and when they viewed the model home, toured the neighborhoods,
talked to residents or realtors they never ever looked up as an airliner
flew overhead.... everyone lied to them apparently...



"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:YWe2g.68$2i5.10341@news.uswest.net...
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:444978D3.9811F889@cox.net...
>> Hi Sandman,
>> People move to Kalifornia, too and proceed to change things to the
>> Hell they left behind.

>
> i wasnt referencing all californians as bad.....just the ones who move in
> *trying to change things*....sorta like what earle accused me of doing
> earlier. the montana state constitution was ammended specifically to
> address these issus. we now have laws that protect firing ranges from
> lawsuits because a californian moved in next to one and then tried to shut
> them down for noise through lawsuits. the ahnei ORV
> http://utilityoffroad.com/riders/rhino/1/ahnei/ was shut down for 2 years
> because a californian moved in next door to it and then started lawsuits
> to get it closed down for the noise. i could go on and on.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
>




L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 04-21-2006 08:50 PM

Re: the reported bear attack
 
Hi Sandman,
A friend's Australian Shepherd weighed in at 180 pounds.
http://www.----------.com/temp/greenMonster.jpg Picture doesn't do him
justice, but I verified the weight on the family scales.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> i agree that german shepherds are great dogs. my two outside dogs are
> austrailian shepherds, but when my old jeep dog passes my next off roading
> partner will be a long haired german shepherd.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com



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