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Mike Romain 04-27-2005 10:53 AM

Re: Pinion Seals
 
Joe Carroll wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:47:55 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >I would be wondering about driveline angles then. Did you replace the
> >bearings with the output? Same for pinion bearings. The last bout of
> >vibrations would have damaged the bearings to a point and sloppy
> >bearings will cause a leak again.
> >

> The tcase seal was replaced but I don't know about pinion seal. That
> said, this is a stock TJ, has not been raised. It's my daily driver,
> not a stump jumper. I never could figure out how it got a bent output
> shaft the first time. Could there be something causing that problem to
> return?
> Joe Carroll
> 2K-TJ
>
> There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> Joseph Duemer


Sure, the bent shaft and the vibrations killed the output bushing or
bearing, same for the pinion bearing. You can keep on putting seals in,
but with a worn bearing, the seals will fast start to leak again.

Leaky seals are only symptoms of deeper troubles, something has to make
them leak.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain 04-27-2005 10:53 AM

Re: Pinion Seals
 
Joe Carroll wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:47:55 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >I would be wondering about driveline angles then. Did you replace the
> >bearings with the output? Same for pinion bearings. The last bout of
> >vibrations would have damaged the bearings to a point and sloppy
> >bearings will cause a leak again.
> >

> The tcase seal was replaced but I don't know about pinion seal. That
> said, this is a stock TJ, has not been raised. It's my daily driver,
> not a stump jumper. I never could figure out how it got a bent output
> shaft the first time. Could there be something causing that problem to
> return?
> Joe Carroll
> 2K-TJ
>
> There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> Joseph Duemer


Sure, the bent shaft and the vibrations killed the output bushing or
bearing, same for the pinion bearing. You can keep on putting seals in,
but with a worn bearing, the seals will fast start to leak again.

Leaky seals are only symptoms of deeper troubles, something has to make
them leak.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain 04-27-2005 10:53 AM

Re: Pinion Seals
 
Joe Carroll wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:47:55 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >I would be wondering about driveline angles then. Did you replace the
> >bearings with the output? Same for pinion bearings. The last bout of
> >vibrations would have damaged the bearings to a point and sloppy
> >bearings will cause a leak again.
> >

> The tcase seal was replaced but I don't know about pinion seal. That
> said, this is a stock TJ, has not been raised. It's my daily driver,
> not a stump jumper. I never could figure out how it got a bent output
> shaft the first time. Could there be something causing that problem to
> return?
> Joe Carroll
> 2K-TJ
>
> There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> Joseph Duemer


Sure, the bent shaft and the vibrations killed the output bushing or
bearing, same for the pinion bearing. You can keep on putting seals in,
but with a worn bearing, the seals will fast start to leak again.

Leaky seals are only symptoms of deeper troubles, something has to make
them leak.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Joe Carroll 04-27-2005 12:01 PM

Re: Pinion Seals
 
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:53:12 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:


>Sure, the bent shaft and the vibrations killed the output bushing or
>bearing, same for the pinion bearing. You can keep on putting seals in,
>but with a worn bearing, the seals will fast start to leak again.
>
>Leaky seals are only symptoms of deeper troubles, something has to make
>them leak.....
>

That's what I figured but since I've replaced the output shaft I don't
know what else could be causing the problem . Could the bearing also
cause the noise ? I'm thinking I'll take the spare driveshaft, have
it re-balanced with new u-joints, start working the problem backwards.

Joe Carroll
2K-TJ

There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer

Joe Carroll 04-27-2005 12:01 PM

Re: Pinion Seals
 
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:53:12 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:


>Sure, the bent shaft and the vibrations killed the output bushing or
>bearing, same for the pinion bearing. You can keep on putting seals in,
>but with a worn bearing, the seals will fast start to leak again.
>
>Leaky seals are only symptoms of deeper troubles, something has to make
>them leak.....
>

That's what I figured but since I've replaced the output shaft I don't
know what else could be causing the problem . Could the bearing also
cause the noise ? I'm thinking I'll take the spare driveshaft, have
it re-balanced with new u-joints, start working the problem backwards.

Joe Carroll
2K-TJ

There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer

Joe Carroll 04-27-2005 12:01 PM

Re: Pinion Seals
 
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:53:12 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:


>Sure, the bent shaft and the vibrations killed the output bushing or
>bearing, same for the pinion bearing. You can keep on putting seals in,
>but with a worn bearing, the seals will fast start to leak again.
>
>Leaky seals are only symptoms of deeper troubles, something has to make
>them leak.....
>

That's what I figured but since I've replaced the output shaft I don't
know what else could be causing the problem . Could the bearing also
cause the noise ? I'm thinking I'll take the spare driveshaft, have
it re-balanced with new u-joints, start working the problem backwards.

Joe Carroll
2K-TJ

There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer

Joe Carroll 04-27-2005 12:01 PM

Re: Pinion Seals
 
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:53:12 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:


>Sure, the bent shaft and the vibrations killed the output bushing or
>bearing, same for the pinion bearing. You can keep on putting seals in,
>but with a worn bearing, the seals will fast start to leak again.
>
>Leaky seals are only symptoms of deeper troubles, something has to make
>them leak.....
>

That's what I figured but since I've replaced the output shaft I don't
know what else could be causing the problem . Could the bearing also
cause the noise ? I'm thinking I'll take the spare driveshaft, have
it re-balanced with new u-joints, start working the problem backwards.

Joe Carroll
2K-TJ

There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer

Mike Romain 04-27-2005 03:37 PM

Re: Pinion Seals
 
Yes a worn pinion bearing will make a pile of noise. When I had mine
replaced, my Jeep scared me for a moment it was so quiet.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Joe Carroll wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:53:12 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Sure, the bent shaft and the vibrations killed the output bushing or
> >bearing, same for the pinion bearing. You can keep on putting seals in,
> >but with a worn bearing, the seals will fast start to leak again.
> >
> >Leaky seals are only symptoms of deeper troubles, something has to make
> >them leak.....
> >

> That's what I figured but since I've replaced the output shaft I don't
> know what else could be causing the problem . Could the bearing also
> cause the noise ? I'm thinking I'll take the spare driveshaft, have
> it re-balanced with new u-joints, start working the problem backwards.
>
> Joe Carroll
> 2K-TJ
>
> There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> Joseph Duemer


Mike Romain 04-27-2005 03:37 PM

Re: Pinion Seals
 
Yes a worn pinion bearing will make a pile of noise. When I had mine
replaced, my Jeep scared me for a moment it was so quiet.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Joe Carroll wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:53:12 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Sure, the bent shaft and the vibrations killed the output bushing or
> >bearing, same for the pinion bearing. You can keep on putting seals in,
> >but with a worn bearing, the seals will fast start to leak again.
> >
> >Leaky seals are only symptoms of deeper troubles, something has to make
> >them leak.....
> >

> That's what I figured but since I've replaced the output shaft I don't
> know what else could be causing the problem . Could the bearing also
> cause the noise ? I'm thinking I'll take the spare driveshaft, have
> it re-balanced with new u-joints, start working the problem backwards.
>
> Joe Carroll
> 2K-TJ
>
> There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> Joseph Duemer


Mike Romain 04-27-2005 03:37 PM

Re: Pinion Seals
 
Yes a worn pinion bearing will make a pile of noise. When I had mine
replaced, my Jeep scared me for a moment it was so quiet.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Joe Carroll wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:53:12 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Sure, the bent shaft and the vibrations killed the output bushing or
> >bearing, same for the pinion bearing. You can keep on putting seals in,
> >but with a worn bearing, the seals will fast start to leak again.
> >
> >Leaky seals are only symptoms of deeper troubles, something has to make
> >them leak.....
> >

> That's what I figured but since I've replaced the output shaft I don't
> know what else could be causing the problem . Could the bearing also
> cause the noise ? I'm thinking I'll take the spare driveshaft, have
> it re-balanced with new u-joints, start working the problem backwards.
>
> Joe Carroll
> 2K-TJ
>
> There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> Joseph Duemer



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