Pinion Gear Bearings...
05-17-2004, 09:23 PM
#11
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Re: Pinion Gear Bearings...
If you take Jerry's suggestion, be sure to blue it:
http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html But you'll find the ring
and pinion to be history, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> Joseph P wrote:
>
> Ok, so there I was, driving down the highway, Jack on the rocks in one
> hand, Jim in the other, when this weird grind/growl/*noise* starts
> coming from my Jeep....I listen intently (after setting my drinks
> down, of course) and first impression is driveline....here we go:
>
> Faster vehicle speed = higher pitch
> Not at all related to RPM
> more noticeable under load (acceleration), slightly noticeable under
> deceleration (engine braking)
> gone when coasting with clutch depressed
>
> I had recently notices oil coming from the rear diff, so I thought I
> would check that...crap came out the hole so it was fine.
> Transmission seemed a little warm, but didn't have a 15/16 socket with
> me, let alone a ratchet, but today I checked and the fluid level is
> also fine.
> I have just replaced both the rear diff and tranny fluid today. Noise
> is slightly less bothersome. Ok, not really. So, I go over to my
> buds, we toss her in the air and let it idle in 3rd gear on
> jackstands.....definitely the rear diff. Break out the chopsaw, make
> me a stethoscope (read: 1/2 inch round solid steel.) So I take a
> listen, right...*way* worse at the forward end of the diff than the
> rear, so it must be pinion bearings, right?
>
> So, I could prolly use a complete rebuild anyway, what is it gonna
> cost me...D35C on a 98 TJ with 69k miles. Or, who has a D44 rear they
> want to sell me?
>
> Also, though I really don't think so, is this something I want to do
> myself? Glancing through the axle section in the FSM for my girl's 99
> XJ, it looks like a real PITA...not to mention, although I do have
> Jeep special tool #1 (BFH,) I sure as hell don't have all the other
> crap mention/pictured in the FSM.
>
>
> --
> --
> Joe Pribe
> NC
> jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html But you'll find the ring
and pinion to be history, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> Joseph P wrote:
>
> Ok, so there I was, driving down the highway, Jack on the rocks in one
> hand, Jim in the other, when this weird grind/growl/*noise* starts
> coming from my Jeep....I listen intently (after setting my drinks
> down, of course) and first impression is driveline....here we go:
>
> Faster vehicle speed = higher pitch
> Not at all related to RPM
> more noticeable under load (acceleration), slightly noticeable under
> deceleration (engine braking)
> gone when coasting with clutch depressed
>
> I had recently notices oil coming from the rear diff, so I thought I
> would check that...crap came out the hole so it was fine.
> Transmission seemed a little warm, but didn't have a 15/16 socket with
> me, let alone a ratchet, but today I checked and the fluid level is
> also fine.
> I have just replaced both the rear diff and tranny fluid today. Noise
> is slightly less bothersome. Ok, not really. So, I go over to my
> buds, we toss her in the air and let it idle in 3rd gear on
> jackstands.....definitely the rear diff. Break out the chopsaw, make
> me a stethoscope (read: 1/2 inch round solid steel.) So I take a
> listen, right...*way* worse at the forward end of the diff than the
> rear, so it must be pinion bearings, right?
>
> So, I could prolly use a complete rebuild anyway, what is it gonna
> cost me...D35C on a 98 TJ with 69k miles. Or, who has a D44 rear they
> want to sell me?
>
> Also, though I really don't think so, is this something I want to do
> myself? Glancing through the axle section in the FSM for my girl's 99
> XJ, it looks like a real PITA...not to mention, although I do have
> Jeep special tool #1 (BFH,) I sure as hell don't have all the other
> crap mention/pictured in the FSM.
>
>
> --
> --
> Joe Pribe
> NC
> jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
05-17-2004, 09:23 PM
#12
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Posts: n/a
Re: Pinion Gear Bearings...
If you take Jerry's suggestion, be sure to blue it:
http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html But you'll find the ring
and pinion to be history, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> Joseph P wrote:
>
> Ok, so there I was, driving down the highway, Jack on the rocks in one
> hand, Jim in the other, when this weird grind/growl/*noise* starts
> coming from my Jeep....I listen intently (after setting my drinks
> down, of course) and first impression is driveline....here we go:
>
> Faster vehicle speed = higher pitch
> Not at all related to RPM
> more noticeable under load (acceleration), slightly noticeable under
> deceleration (engine braking)
> gone when coasting with clutch depressed
>
> I had recently notices oil coming from the rear diff, so I thought I
> would check that...crap came out the hole so it was fine.
> Transmission seemed a little warm, but didn't have a 15/16 socket with
> me, let alone a ratchet, but today I checked and the fluid level is
> also fine.
> I have just replaced both the rear diff and tranny fluid today. Noise
> is slightly less bothersome. Ok, not really. So, I go over to my
> buds, we toss her in the air and let it idle in 3rd gear on
> jackstands.....definitely the rear diff. Break out the chopsaw, make
> me a stethoscope (read: 1/2 inch round solid steel.) So I take a
> listen, right...*way* worse at the forward end of the diff than the
> rear, so it must be pinion bearings, right?
>
> So, I could prolly use a complete rebuild anyway, what is it gonna
> cost me...D35C on a 98 TJ with 69k miles. Or, who has a D44 rear they
> want to sell me?
>
> Also, though I really don't think so, is this something I want to do
> myself? Glancing through the axle section in the FSM for my girl's 99
> XJ, it looks like a real PITA...not to mention, although I do have
> Jeep special tool #1 (BFH,) I sure as hell don't have all the other
> crap mention/pictured in the FSM.
>
>
> --
> --
> Joe Pribe
> NC
> jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html But you'll find the ring
and pinion to be history, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> Joseph P wrote:
>
> Ok, so there I was, driving down the highway, Jack on the rocks in one
> hand, Jim in the other, when this weird grind/growl/*noise* starts
> coming from my Jeep....I listen intently (after setting my drinks
> down, of course) and first impression is driveline....here we go:
>
> Faster vehicle speed = higher pitch
> Not at all related to RPM
> more noticeable under load (acceleration), slightly noticeable under
> deceleration (engine braking)
> gone when coasting with clutch depressed
>
> I had recently notices oil coming from the rear diff, so I thought I
> would check that...crap came out the hole so it was fine.
> Transmission seemed a little warm, but didn't have a 15/16 socket with
> me, let alone a ratchet, but today I checked and the fluid level is
> also fine.
> I have just replaced both the rear diff and tranny fluid today. Noise
> is slightly less bothersome. Ok, not really. So, I go over to my
> buds, we toss her in the air and let it idle in 3rd gear on
> jackstands.....definitely the rear diff. Break out the chopsaw, make
> me a stethoscope (read: 1/2 inch round solid steel.) So I take a
> listen, right...*way* worse at the forward end of the diff than the
> rear, so it must be pinion bearings, right?
>
> So, I could prolly use a complete rebuild anyway, what is it gonna
> cost me...D35C on a 98 TJ with 69k miles. Or, who has a D44 rear they
> want to sell me?
>
> Also, though I really don't think so, is this something I want to do
> myself? Glancing through the axle section in the FSM for my girl's 99
> XJ, it looks like a real PITA...not to mention, although I do have
> Jeep special tool #1 (BFH,) I sure as hell don't have all the other
> crap mention/pictured in the FSM.
>
>
> --
> --
> Joe Pribe
> NC
> jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
05-17-2004, 09:23 PM
#13
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Posts: n/a
Re: Pinion Gear Bearings...
If you take Jerry's suggestion, be sure to blue it:
http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html But you'll find the ring
and pinion to be history, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> Joseph P wrote:
>
> Ok, so there I was, driving down the highway, Jack on the rocks in one
> hand, Jim in the other, when this weird grind/growl/*noise* starts
> coming from my Jeep....I listen intently (after setting my drinks
> down, of course) and first impression is driveline....here we go:
>
> Faster vehicle speed = higher pitch
> Not at all related to RPM
> more noticeable under load (acceleration), slightly noticeable under
> deceleration (engine braking)
> gone when coasting with clutch depressed
>
> I had recently notices oil coming from the rear diff, so I thought I
> would check that...crap came out the hole so it was fine.
> Transmission seemed a little warm, but didn't have a 15/16 socket with
> me, let alone a ratchet, but today I checked and the fluid level is
> also fine.
> I have just replaced both the rear diff and tranny fluid today. Noise
> is slightly less bothersome. Ok, not really. So, I go over to my
> buds, we toss her in the air and let it idle in 3rd gear on
> jackstands.....definitely the rear diff. Break out the chopsaw, make
> me a stethoscope (read: 1/2 inch round solid steel.) So I take a
> listen, right...*way* worse at the forward end of the diff than the
> rear, so it must be pinion bearings, right?
>
> So, I could prolly use a complete rebuild anyway, what is it gonna
> cost me...D35C on a 98 TJ with 69k miles. Or, who has a D44 rear they
> want to sell me?
>
> Also, though I really don't think so, is this something I want to do
> myself? Glancing through the axle section in the FSM for my girl's 99
> XJ, it looks like a real PITA...not to mention, although I do have
> Jeep special tool #1 (BFH,) I sure as hell don't have all the other
> crap mention/pictured in the FSM.
>
>
> --
> --
> Joe Pribe
> NC
> jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html But you'll find the ring
and pinion to be history, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> Joseph P wrote:
>
> Ok, so there I was, driving down the highway, Jack on the rocks in one
> hand, Jim in the other, when this weird grind/growl/*noise* starts
> coming from my Jeep....I listen intently (after setting my drinks
> down, of course) and first impression is driveline....here we go:
>
> Faster vehicle speed = higher pitch
> Not at all related to RPM
> more noticeable under load (acceleration), slightly noticeable under
> deceleration (engine braking)
> gone when coasting with clutch depressed
>
> I had recently notices oil coming from the rear diff, so I thought I
> would check that...crap came out the hole so it was fine.
> Transmission seemed a little warm, but didn't have a 15/16 socket with
> me, let alone a ratchet, but today I checked and the fluid level is
> also fine.
> I have just replaced both the rear diff and tranny fluid today. Noise
> is slightly less bothersome. Ok, not really. So, I go over to my
> buds, we toss her in the air and let it idle in 3rd gear on
> jackstands.....definitely the rear diff. Break out the chopsaw, make
> me a stethoscope (read: 1/2 inch round solid steel.) So I take a
> listen, right...*way* worse at the forward end of the diff than the
> rear, so it must be pinion bearings, right?
>
> So, I could prolly use a complete rebuild anyway, what is it gonna
> cost me...D35C on a 98 TJ with 69k miles. Or, who has a D44 rear they
> want to sell me?
>
> Also, though I really don't think so, is this something I want to do
> myself? Glancing through the axle section in the FSM for my girl's 99
> XJ, it looks like a real PITA...not to mention, although I do have
> Jeep special tool #1 (BFH,) I sure as hell don't have all the other
> crap mention/pictured in the FSM.
>
>
> --
> --
> Joe Pribe
> NC
> jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
05-17-2004, 11:07 PM
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Re: Pinion Gear Bearings...
In news:40A96592.3E9A3D06@***.net,
L.W. (ßill) ------ III from <----------@***.net> was injured because:
| If you take Jerry's suggestion, be sure to blue it:
| http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html But you'll
| find the ring and pinion to be history, too.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
|| Joseph P wrote:
||
|| Ok, so there I was, driving down the highway, Jack on the
|| rocks in one hand, Jim in the other, when this weird
<edited>
|| sure as hell don't have all the other crap mention/pictured
|| in the FSM.
||
Blue it? You mean using the marking paint? I am not typically one to
half *** jobs, especially ones I don't want to be doing on a regular
basis! So, anyone got a good lead on a not so bad D44?
--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
jegp 'at' hotmail.com
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
L.W. (ßill) ------ III from <----------@***.net> was injured because:
| If you take Jerry's suggestion, be sure to blue it:
| http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html But you'll
| find the ring and pinion to be history, too.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
|| Joseph P wrote:
||
|| Ok, so there I was, driving down the highway, Jack on the
|| rocks in one hand, Jim in the other, when this weird
<edited>
|| sure as hell don't have all the other crap mention/pictured
|| in the FSM.
||
Blue it? You mean using the marking paint? I am not typically one to
half *** jobs, especially ones I don't want to be doing on a regular
basis! So, anyone got a good lead on a not so bad D44?
--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
jegp 'at' hotmail.com
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
05-17-2004, 11:07 PM
#15
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Re: Pinion Gear Bearings...
In news:40A96592.3E9A3D06@***.net,
L.W. (ßill) ------ III from <----------@***.net> was injured because:
| If you take Jerry's suggestion, be sure to blue it:
| http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html But you'll
| find the ring and pinion to be history, too.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
|| Joseph P wrote:
||
|| Ok, so there I was, driving down the highway, Jack on the
|| rocks in one hand, Jim in the other, when this weird
<edited>
|| sure as hell don't have all the other crap mention/pictured
|| in the FSM.
||
Blue it? You mean using the marking paint? I am not typically one to
half *** jobs, especially ones I don't want to be doing on a regular
basis! So, anyone got a good lead on a not so bad D44?
--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
jegp 'at' hotmail.com
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
L.W. (ßill) ------ III from <----------@***.net> was injured because:
| If you take Jerry's suggestion, be sure to blue it:
| http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html But you'll
| find the ring and pinion to be history, too.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
|| Joseph P wrote:
||
|| Ok, so there I was, driving down the highway, Jack on the
|| rocks in one hand, Jim in the other, when this weird
<edited>
|| sure as hell don't have all the other crap mention/pictured
|| in the FSM.
||
Blue it? You mean using the marking paint? I am not typically one to
half *** jobs, especially ones I don't want to be doing on a regular
basis! So, anyone got a good lead on a not so bad D44?
--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
jegp 'at' hotmail.com
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
05-17-2004, 11:07 PM
#16
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Re: Pinion Gear Bearings...
In news:40A96592.3E9A3D06@***.net,
L.W. (ßill) ------ III from <----------@***.net> was injured because:
| If you take Jerry's suggestion, be sure to blue it:
| http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html But you'll
| find the ring and pinion to be history, too.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
|| Joseph P wrote:
||
|| Ok, so there I was, driving down the highway, Jack on the
|| rocks in one hand, Jim in the other, when this weird
<edited>
|| sure as hell don't have all the other crap mention/pictured
|| in the FSM.
||
Blue it? You mean using the marking paint? I am not typically one to
half *** jobs, especially ones I don't want to be doing on a regular
basis! So, anyone got a good lead on a not so bad D44?
--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
jegp 'at' hotmail.com
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
L.W. (ßill) ------ III from <----------@***.net> was injured because:
| If you take Jerry's suggestion, be sure to blue it:
| http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html But you'll
| find the ring and pinion to be history, too.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
|| Joseph P wrote:
||
|| Ok, so there I was, driving down the highway, Jack on the
|| rocks in one hand, Jim in the other, when this weird
<edited>
|| sure as hell don't have all the other crap mention/pictured
|| in the FSM.
||
Blue it? You mean using the marking paint? I am not typically one to
half *** jobs, especially ones I don't want to be doing on a regular
basis! So, anyone got a good lead on a not so bad D44?
--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
jegp 'at' hotmail.com
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
05-17-2004, 11:07 PM
#17
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Re: Pinion Gear Bearings...
In news:40A96592.3E9A3D06@***.net,
L.W. (ßill) ------ III from <----------@***.net> was injured because:
| If you take Jerry's suggestion, be sure to blue it:
| http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html But you'll
| find the ring and pinion to be history, too.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
|| Joseph P wrote:
||
|| Ok, so there I was, driving down the highway, Jack on the
|| rocks in one hand, Jim in the other, when this weird
<edited>
|| sure as hell don't have all the other crap mention/pictured
|| in the FSM.
||
Blue it? You mean using the marking paint? I am not typically one to
half *** jobs, especially ones I don't want to be doing on a regular
basis! So, anyone got a good lead on a not so bad D44?
--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
jegp 'at' hotmail.com
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
L.W. (ßill) ------ III from <----------@***.net> was injured because:
| If you take Jerry's suggestion, be sure to blue it:
| http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html But you'll
| find the ring and pinion to be history, too.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
|| Joseph P wrote:
||
|| Ok, so there I was, driving down the highway, Jack on the
|| rocks in one hand, Jim in the other, when this weird
<edited>
|| sure as hell don't have all the other crap mention/pictured
|| in the FSM.
||
Blue it? You mean using the marking paint? I am not typically one to
half *** jobs, especially ones I don't want to be doing on a regular
basis! So, anyone got a good lead on a not so bad D44?
--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
jegp 'at' hotmail.com
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
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