Pinion angle... what's the secret?
#11
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Re: Pinion angle... what's the secret?
Plenty of room for travel. CV joint, correct.
n.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Is there plenty of room for the slip joint to travel, and you do
> have the constant velocity joint, right?
> http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html And
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>>
>> I thought I had my pinion angle adjusted pretty well Sunday when I
>> attached
>> the driveshaft, but I have a vibration that starts at about 40mph, dies
>> off
>> at around 50 and picks up again at about 60.
>>
>> My helper and I held a carpenters square (the big L shaped one) on the
>> diff
>> and lined it up that way, pointing directly at the output of the
>> transfercase... Can anyone give tips that will get me dead on?
>> n.
n.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422D3C7B.AF5A2C1E@***.net...
> Is there plenty of room for the slip joint to travel, and you do
> have the constant velocity joint, right?
> http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html And
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>>
>> I thought I had my pinion angle adjusted pretty well Sunday when I
>> attached
>> the driveshaft, but I have a vibration that starts at about 40mph, dies
>> off
>> at around 50 and picks up again at about 60.
>>
>> My helper and I held a carpenters square (the big L shaped one) on the
>> diff
>> and lined it up that way, pointing directly at the output of the
>> transfercase... Can anyone give tips that will get me dead on?
>> n.
#12
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Re: Pinion angle... what's the secret?
Plenty of room for travel. CV joint, correct.
n.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422D3C7B.AF5A2C1E@***.net...
> Is there plenty of room for the slip joint to travel, and you do
> have the constant velocity joint, right?
> http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html And
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>>
>> I thought I had my pinion angle adjusted pretty well Sunday when I
>> attached
>> the driveshaft, but I have a vibration that starts at about 40mph, dies
>> off
>> at around 50 and picks up again at about 60.
>>
>> My helper and I held a carpenters square (the big L shaped one) on the
>> diff
>> and lined it up that way, pointing directly at the output of the
>> transfercase... Can anyone give tips that will get me dead on?
>> n.
n.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422D3C7B.AF5A2C1E@***.net...
> Is there plenty of room for the slip joint to travel, and you do
> have the constant velocity joint, right?
> http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html And
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>>
>> I thought I had my pinion angle adjusted pretty well Sunday when I
>> attached
>> the driveshaft, but I have a vibration that starts at about 40mph, dies
>> off
>> at around 50 and picks up again at about 60.
>>
>> My helper and I held a carpenters square (the big L shaped one) on the
>> diff
>> and lined it up that way, pointing directly at the output of the
>> transfercase... Can anyone give tips that will get me dead on?
>> n.
#13
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Re: Pinion angle... what's the secret?
Plenty of room for travel. CV joint, correct.
n.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422D3C7B.AF5A2C1E@***.net...
> Is there plenty of room for the slip joint to travel, and you do
> have the constant velocity joint, right?
> http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html And
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>>
>> I thought I had my pinion angle adjusted pretty well Sunday when I
>> attached
>> the driveshaft, but I have a vibration that starts at about 40mph, dies
>> off
>> at around 50 and picks up again at about 60.
>>
>> My helper and I held a carpenters square (the big L shaped one) on the
>> diff
>> and lined it up that way, pointing directly at the output of the
>> transfercase... Can anyone give tips that will get me dead on?
>> n.
n.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422D3C7B.AF5A2C1E@***.net...
> Is there plenty of room for the slip joint to travel, and you do
> have the constant velocity joint, right?
> http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html And
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>>
>> I thought I had my pinion angle adjusted pretty well Sunday when I
>> attached
>> the driveshaft, but I have a vibration that starts at about 40mph, dies
>> off
>> at around 50 and picks up again at about 60.
>>
>> My helper and I held a carpenters square (the big L shaped one) on the
>> diff
>> and lined it up that way, pointing directly at the output of the
>> transfercase... Can anyone give tips that will get me dead on?
>> n.
#14
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Re: Pinion angle... what's the secret?
I do have the CV.
n.
<ajeeperman@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> bad!
> the output shaft of the transfer case and the output from the rear
> differential should be parallel within 5 degrees or you will get a
> vibration.
> this is not true if you have a double u joint(cv joint)
> then what you have done applies.
> old john
>
>
> "Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
> news:394r5gF5liisbU1@individual.net...
>> I thought I had my pinion angle adjusted pretty well Sunday when I
> attached
>> the driveshaft, but I have a vibration that starts at about 40mph, dies
> off
>> at around 50 and picks up again at about 60.
>>
>> My helper and I held a carpenters square (the big L shaped one) on the
> diff
>> and lined it up that way, pointing directly at the output of the
>> transfercase... Can anyone give tips that will get me dead on?
>> n.
>>
>>
>
>
n.
<ajeeperman@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:KoednRc75ItIoLDfRVn-hA@comcast.com...
> bad!
> the output shaft of the transfer case and the output from the rear
> differential should be parallel within 5 degrees or you will get a
> vibration.
> this is not true if you have a double u joint(cv joint)
> then what you have done applies.
> old john
>
>
> "Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
> news:394r5gF5liisbU1@individual.net...
>> I thought I had my pinion angle adjusted pretty well Sunday when I
> attached
>> the driveshaft, but I have a vibration that starts at about 40mph, dies
> off
>> at around 50 and picks up again at about 60.
>>
>> My helper and I held a carpenters square (the big L shaped one) on the
> diff
>> and lined it up that way, pointing directly at the output of the
>> transfercase... Can anyone give tips that will get me dead on?
>> n.
>>
>>
>
>
#15
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Re: Pinion angle... what's the secret?
I do have the CV.
n.
<ajeeperman@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:KoednRc75ItIoLDfRVn-hA@comcast.com...
> bad!
> the output shaft of the transfer case and the output from the rear
> differential should be parallel within 5 degrees or you will get a
> vibration.
> this is not true if you have a double u joint(cv joint)
> then what you have done applies.
> old john
>
>
> "Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
> news:394r5gF5liisbU1@individual.net...
>> I thought I had my pinion angle adjusted pretty well Sunday when I
> attached
>> the driveshaft, but I have a vibration that starts at about 40mph, dies
> off
>> at around 50 and picks up again at about 60.
>>
>> My helper and I held a carpenters square (the big L shaped one) on the
> diff
>> and lined it up that way, pointing directly at the output of the
>> transfercase... Can anyone give tips that will get me dead on?
>> n.
>>
>>
>
>
n.
<ajeeperman@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:KoednRc75ItIoLDfRVn-hA@comcast.com...
> bad!
> the output shaft of the transfer case and the output from the rear
> differential should be parallel within 5 degrees or you will get a
> vibration.
> this is not true if you have a double u joint(cv joint)
> then what you have done applies.
> old john
>
>
> "Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
> news:394r5gF5liisbU1@individual.net...
>> I thought I had my pinion angle adjusted pretty well Sunday when I
> attached
>> the driveshaft, but I have a vibration that starts at about 40mph, dies
> off
>> at around 50 and picks up again at about 60.
>>
>> My helper and I held a carpenters square (the big L shaped one) on the
> diff
>> and lined it up that way, pointing directly at the output of the
>> transfercase... Can anyone give tips that will get me dead on?
>> n.
>>
>>
>
>
#16
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Re: Pinion angle... what's the secret?
I do have the CV.
n.
<ajeeperman@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:KoednRc75ItIoLDfRVn-hA@comcast.com...
> bad!
> the output shaft of the transfer case and the output from the rear
> differential should be parallel within 5 degrees or you will get a
> vibration.
> this is not true if you have a double u joint(cv joint)
> then what you have done applies.
> old john
>
>
> "Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
> news:394r5gF5liisbU1@individual.net...
>> I thought I had my pinion angle adjusted pretty well Sunday when I
> attached
>> the driveshaft, but I have a vibration that starts at about 40mph, dies
> off
>> at around 50 and picks up again at about 60.
>>
>> My helper and I held a carpenters square (the big L shaped one) on the
> diff
>> and lined it up that way, pointing directly at the output of the
>> transfercase... Can anyone give tips that will get me dead on?
>> n.
>>
>>
>
>
n.
<ajeeperman@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:KoednRc75ItIoLDfRVn-hA@comcast.com...
> bad!
> the output shaft of the transfer case and the output from the rear
> differential should be parallel within 5 degrees or you will get a
> vibration.
> this is not true if you have a double u joint(cv joint)
> then what you have done applies.
> old john
>
>
> "Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
> news:394r5gF5liisbU1@individual.net...
>> I thought I had my pinion angle adjusted pretty well Sunday when I
> attached
>> the driveshaft, but I have a vibration that starts at about 40mph, dies
> off
>> at around 50 and picks up again at about 60.
>>
>> My helper and I held a carpenters square (the big L shaped one) on the
> diff
>> and lined it up that way, pointing directly at the output of the
>> transfercase... Can anyone give tips that will get me dead on?
>> n.
>>
>>
>
>
#17
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Re: Pinion angle... what's the secret?
Sorry guys, I guess I figured folks had been following my posts closer than
this... I've been posting questions about this modification for two weeks
now...
Here's the specs:
2003 TJ (Rubi, if it matters)
3+" Suspension lift, 1.25" Body lift, transfer case skid probably lifts
things another 1.5 - 2 inches. Adjustable rear upper control arms are
pointing the pinion pretty much directly at the output of the T-case, and I
do have a CV shaft on this Jeep.
The shop that made the shaft claims all their shafts are precision balanced,
but I see no weights on the outside of the shaft. Another Jeeper running the
same shaft also has no weights, but has no vibrations. If anyone can help me
iron out these vibes, I'd appreciate it.
n.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:9cbXd.70110$Tt.14056@fed1read05...
> IT depends on the kind of driveshaft you're running, a CV (double-cardin)
> or a conventional driveshaft. The pinion should point directly at the
> output of the t-case only if the driveshaft is a CV. If it's a
> conventional driveshaft, the pinion angle must be parallel to the output
> shaft.
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> I thought I had my pinion angle adjusted pretty well Sunday when I
>> attached the driveshaft, but I have a vibration that starts at about
>> 40mph, dies off at around 50 and picks up again at about 60.
>>
>> My helper and I held a carpenters square (the big L shaped one) on the
>> diff and lined it up that way, pointing directly at the output of the
>> transfercase... Can anyone give tips that will get me dead on?
>> n.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
this... I've been posting questions about this modification for two weeks
now...
Here's the specs:
2003 TJ (Rubi, if it matters)
3+" Suspension lift, 1.25" Body lift, transfer case skid probably lifts
things another 1.5 - 2 inches. Adjustable rear upper control arms are
pointing the pinion pretty much directly at the output of the T-case, and I
do have a CV shaft on this Jeep.
The shop that made the shaft claims all their shafts are precision balanced,
but I see no weights on the outside of the shaft. Another Jeeper running the
same shaft also has no weights, but has no vibrations. If anyone can help me
iron out these vibes, I'd appreciate it.
n.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:9cbXd.70110$Tt.14056@fed1read05...
> IT depends on the kind of driveshaft you're running, a CV (double-cardin)
> or a conventional driveshaft. The pinion should point directly at the
> output of the t-case only if the driveshaft is a CV. If it's a
> conventional driveshaft, the pinion angle must be parallel to the output
> shaft.
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> I thought I had my pinion angle adjusted pretty well Sunday when I
>> attached the driveshaft, but I have a vibration that starts at about
>> 40mph, dies off at around 50 and picks up again at about 60.
>>
>> My helper and I held a carpenters square (the big L shaped one) on the
>> diff and lined it up that way, pointing directly at the output of the
>> transfercase... Can anyone give tips that will get me dead on?
>> n.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#18
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Posts: n/a
Re: Pinion angle... what's the secret?
Sorry guys, I guess I figured folks had been following my posts closer than
this... I've been posting questions about this modification for two weeks
now...
Here's the specs:
2003 TJ (Rubi, if it matters)
3+" Suspension lift, 1.25" Body lift, transfer case skid probably lifts
things another 1.5 - 2 inches. Adjustable rear upper control arms are
pointing the pinion pretty much directly at the output of the T-case, and I
do have a CV shaft on this Jeep.
The shop that made the shaft claims all their shafts are precision balanced,
but I see no weights on the outside of the shaft. Another Jeeper running the
same shaft also has no weights, but has no vibrations. If anyone can help me
iron out these vibes, I'd appreciate it.
n.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:9cbXd.70110$Tt.14056@fed1read05...
> IT depends on the kind of driveshaft you're running, a CV (double-cardin)
> or a conventional driveshaft. The pinion should point directly at the
> output of the t-case only if the driveshaft is a CV. If it's a
> conventional driveshaft, the pinion angle must be parallel to the output
> shaft.
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> I thought I had my pinion angle adjusted pretty well Sunday when I
>> attached the driveshaft, but I have a vibration that starts at about
>> 40mph, dies off at around 50 and picks up again at about 60.
>>
>> My helper and I held a carpenters square (the big L shaped one) on the
>> diff and lined it up that way, pointing directly at the output of the
>> transfercase... Can anyone give tips that will get me dead on?
>> n.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
this... I've been posting questions about this modification for two weeks
now...
Here's the specs:
2003 TJ (Rubi, if it matters)
3+" Suspension lift, 1.25" Body lift, transfer case skid probably lifts
things another 1.5 - 2 inches. Adjustable rear upper control arms are
pointing the pinion pretty much directly at the output of the T-case, and I
do have a CV shaft on this Jeep.
The shop that made the shaft claims all their shafts are precision balanced,
but I see no weights on the outside of the shaft. Another Jeeper running the
same shaft also has no weights, but has no vibrations. If anyone can help me
iron out these vibes, I'd appreciate it.
n.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:9cbXd.70110$Tt.14056@fed1read05...
> IT depends on the kind of driveshaft you're running, a CV (double-cardin)
> or a conventional driveshaft. The pinion should point directly at the
> output of the t-case only if the driveshaft is a CV. If it's a
> conventional driveshaft, the pinion angle must be parallel to the output
> shaft.
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> I thought I had my pinion angle adjusted pretty well Sunday when I
>> attached the driveshaft, but I have a vibration that starts at about
>> 40mph, dies off at around 50 and picks up again at about 60.
>>
>> My helper and I held a carpenters square (the big L shaped one) on the
>> diff and lined it up that way, pointing directly at the output of the
>> transfercase... Can anyone give tips that will get me dead on?
>> n.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#19
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Posts: n/a
Re: Pinion angle... what's the secret?
Sorry guys, I guess I figured folks had been following my posts closer than
this... I've been posting questions about this modification for two weeks
now...
Here's the specs:
2003 TJ (Rubi, if it matters)
3+" Suspension lift, 1.25" Body lift, transfer case skid probably lifts
things another 1.5 - 2 inches. Adjustable rear upper control arms are
pointing the pinion pretty much directly at the output of the T-case, and I
do have a CV shaft on this Jeep.
The shop that made the shaft claims all their shafts are precision balanced,
but I see no weights on the outside of the shaft. Another Jeeper running the
same shaft also has no weights, but has no vibrations. If anyone can help me
iron out these vibes, I'd appreciate it.
n.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:9cbXd.70110$Tt.14056@fed1read05...
> IT depends on the kind of driveshaft you're running, a CV (double-cardin)
> or a conventional driveshaft. The pinion should point directly at the
> output of the t-case only if the driveshaft is a CV. If it's a
> conventional driveshaft, the pinion angle must be parallel to the output
> shaft.
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> I thought I had my pinion angle adjusted pretty well Sunday when I
>> attached the driveshaft, but I have a vibration that starts at about
>> 40mph, dies off at around 50 and picks up again at about 60.
>>
>> My helper and I held a carpenters square (the big L shaped one) on the
>> diff and lined it up that way, pointing directly at the output of the
>> transfercase... Can anyone give tips that will get me dead on?
>> n.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
this... I've been posting questions about this modification for two weeks
now...
Here's the specs:
2003 TJ (Rubi, if it matters)
3+" Suspension lift, 1.25" Body lift, transfer case skid probably lifts
things another 1.5 - 2 inches. Adjustable rear upper control arms are
pointing the pinion pretty much directly at the output of the T-case, and I
do have a CV shaft on this Jeep.
The shop that made the shaft claims all their shafts are precision balanced,
but I see no weights on the outside of the shaft. Another Jeeper running the
same shaft also has no weights, but has no vibrations. If anyone can help me
iron out these vibes, I'd appreciate it.
n.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:9cbXd.70110$Tt.14056@fed1read05...
> IT depends on the kind of driveshaft you're running, a CV (double-cardin)
> or a conventional driveshaft. The pinion should point directly at the
> output of the t-case only if the driveshaft is a CV. If it's a
> conventional driveshaft, the pinion angle must be parallel to the output
> shaft.
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> I thought I had my pinion angle adjusted pretty well Sunday when I
>> attached the driveshaft, but I have a vibration that starts at about
>> 40mph, dies off at around 50 and picks up again at about 60.
>>
>> My helper and I held a carpenters square (the big L shaped one) on the
>> diff and lined it up that way, pointing directly at the output of the
>> transfercase... Can anyone give tips that will get me dead on?
>> n.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#20
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Re: Pinion angle... what's the secret?
"Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
news:394u7vF5p21loU1@individual.net...
> Sorry guys, I guess I figured folks had been following my posts closer
> than this... I've been posting questions about this modification for two
> weeks now...
Remove your front driveshaft and go for a ride. If the vibes disappear, you
have to look at your front pinion angle/castor. Do you have adjustable front
control arms on this monster? I'd be willing to bet the vibes are in the
front if you have done everything right in the rear.
-Brian
news:394u7vF5p21loU1@individual.net...
> Sorry guys, I guess I figured folks had been following my posts closer
> than this... I've been posting questions about this modification for two
> weeks now...
Remove your front driveshaft and go for a ride. If the vibes disappear, you
have to look at your front pinion angle/castor. Do you have adjustable front
control arms on this monster? I'd be willing to bet the vibes are in the
front if you have done everything right in the rear.
-Brian