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Re: Re: Pinion angle
I don't believe it is possible to have one with dual cardan CV joints.
But you can with ball CV joints, like the ones used on the 2007 wrangler rear driveshaft (and it is a weaker design that cardan joints). Anyway, it is an overkill to have a dual CV driveshaft. Bill Spiliotopoulos, '96XJ, '06 TJ. Ο "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> έγραψε στο μήνυμα news:6ZudnSZbhdI_k9jbnZ2dnUVZ_viunZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant > imagine 4 joints on a single driveshaft... > > Carl > > > "Bill Spiliotopoulos" <vspili@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:f232hq$9nj$1@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr... >>> Not a bad idea on the shiming until lift is installed but if he goes >>> with a double CV set up (CV's on both ends of driveshaft) it will not >>> be a issue at all. >> >> I am not aware if it is possible to have a double CV rear driveshaft for >> a Wrangler. >> The driveshaft is so short that there might not be enough length to >> accommodate the slip joint and CVs at both ends. >> Also I haven't seen one provided off-the-self, so it would require >> ordering and buiding to specifications, which would probably be more >> expensive than using the common way of a single CV shaft. It wouldn't >> justify the extra engineering just for a 2.5" lift. >> >> Bill Spiliotopoulos, >> '96XJ, '06 TJ. >> >> >> > > |
Re: Pinion angle
Yup: http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1178906375.283917.287930@w5g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com... > > > I bought a Cherokee Dana 44 today and am trying to decide the best way > to install it. The vehicle is a '95 Yj with 2.5L engine and all stock > drivetrain and no lift. The stock drive shaft length between u-joint > cap centers is 14.5 inches. The doubt arises because I plan to lift > the jeep 2.5 inches next year using leaf spring lift only. > > Two options: > > 1) stick with single cardan drive shafts: Will the angles be Ok after > the lift with a SYE and Transfer case output and pinion parallel to > each other? > > 2) go with CV style driveshaft: Should the Dana 44 be installed with > some upward angle on the pinion (with no lift, maybe using shims to > lower it to parallel for now) to avoid rewelding to rotate once the > lift is in place? > > My main goal is to maximize reliability. Which would be the best > option to choose? > > Thanks > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Pinion angle
Yup: http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1178906375.283917.287930@w5g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com... > > > I bought a Cherokee Dana 44 today and am trying to decide the best way > to install it. The vehicle is a '95 Yj with 2.5L engine and all stock > drivetrain and no lift. The stock drive shaft length between u-joint > cap centers is 14.5 inches. The doubt arises because I plan to lift > the jeep 2.5 inches next year using leaf spring lift only. > > Two options: > > 1) stick with single cardan drive shafts: Will the angles be Ok after > the lift with a SYE and Transfer case output and pinion parallel to > each other? > > 2) go with CV style driveshaft: Should the Dana 44 be installed with > some upward angle on the pinion (with no lift, maybe using shims to > lower it to parallel for now) to avoid rewelding to rotate once the > lift is in place? > > My main goal is to maximize reliability. Which would be the best > option to choose? > > Thanks > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Pinion angle
Yup: http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1178906375.283917.287930@w5g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com... > > > I bought a Cherokee Dana 44 today and am trying to decide the best way > to install it. The vehicle is a '95 Yj with 2.5L engine and all stock > drivetrain and no lift. The stock drive shaft length between u-joint > cap centers is 14.5 inches. The doubt arises because I plan to lift > the jeep 2.5 inches next year using leaf spring lift only. > > Two options: > > 1) stick with single cardan drive shafts: Will the angles be Ok after > the lift with a SYE and Transfer case output and pinion parallel to > each other? > > 2) go with CV style driveshaft: Should the Dana 44 be installed with > some upward angle on the pinion (with no lift, maybe using shims to > lower it to parallel for now) to avoid rewelding to rotate once the > lift is in place? > > My main goal is to maximize reliability. Which would be the best > option to choose? > > Thanks > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Pinion angle
Yup: http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1178906375.283917.287930@w5g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com... > > > I bought a Cherokee Dana 44 today and am trying to decide the best way > to install it. The vehicle is a '95 Yj with 2.5L engine and all stock > drivetrain and no lift. The stock drive shaft length between u-joint > cap centers is 14.5 inches. The doubt arises because I plan to lift > the jeep 2.5 inches next year using leaf spring lift only. > > Two options: > > 1) stick with single cardan drive shafts: Will the angles be Ok after > the lift with a SYE and Transfer case output and pinion parallel to > each other? > > 2) go with CV style driveshaft: Should the Dana 44 be installed with > some upward angle on the pinion (with no lift, maybe using shims to > lower it to parallel for now) to avoid rewelding to rotate once the > lift is in place? > > My main goal is to maximize reliability. Which would be the best > option to choose? > > Thanks > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Pinion angle
> Yup You're so glib. You were Superduperman yesterday. You Gary Cooper now? > Pinion angle And your pinions don't count for pferdscheiss. |
Re: Pinion angle
> Yup You're so glib. You were Superduperman yesterday. You Gary Cooper now? > Pinion angle And your pinions don't count for pferdscheiss. |
Re: Pinion angle
> Yup You're so glib. You were Superduperman yesterday. You Gary Cooper now? > Pinion angle And your pinions don't count for pferdscheiss. |
Re: Pinion angle
> Yup You're so glib. You were Superduperman yesterday. You Gary Cooper now? > Pinion angle And your pinions don't count for pferdscheiss. |
Re: Re: Re: Pinion angle
On Sat, 12 May 2007 03:42:51 +0300, "Bill Spiliotopoulos"
<vspili@yahoo.com> wrote: >I am not aware if it is possible to have a double CV rear driveshaft for a >Wrangler. >The driveshaft is so short that there might not be enough length to >accommodate the slip joint and CVs at both ends. >Also I haven't seen one provided off-the-self, so it would require ordering >and buiding to specifications, which would probably be more expensive than >using the common way of a single CV shaft. It wouldn't justify the extra >engineering just for a 2.5" lift. When ever I need a speacail drive shaft, I have it built at a local drive shaft shop. I do not depend on online prefabbed ones. Even if I wind up paying a few extra bucks, I also wind up getting EXACTALLY what I want, not the closest fitting off shelve unit. Because of this I never really looked at what is availble ready made so I cannot comment on ready made over the counter solutions. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: Pinion angle
On Sat, 12 May 2007 03:42:51 +0300, "Bill Spiliotopoulos"
<vspili@yahoo.com> wrote: >I am not aware if it is possible to have a double CV rear driveshaft for a >Wrangler. >The driveshaft is so short that there might not be enough length to >accommodate the slip joint and CVs at both ends. >Also I haven't seen one provided off-the-self, so it would require ordering >and buiding to specifications, which would probably be more expensive than >using the common way of a single CV shaft. It wouldn't justify the extra >engineering just for a 2.5" lift. When ever I need a speacail drive shaft, I have it built at a local drive shaft shop. I do not depend on online prefabbed ones. Even if I wind up paying a few extra bucks, I also wind up getting EXACTALLY what I want, not the closest fitting off shelve unit. Because of this I never really looked at what is availble ready made so I cannot comment on ready made over the counter solutions. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: Pinion angle
On Sat, 12 May 2007 03:42:51 +0300, "Bill Spiliotopoulos"
<vspili@yahoo.com> wrote: >I am not aware if it is possible to have a double CV rear driveshaft for a >Wrangler. >The driveshaft is so short that there might not be enough length to >accommodate the slip joint and CVs at both ends. >Also I haven't seen one provided off-the-self, so it would require ordering >and buiding to specifications, which would probably be more expensive than >using the common way of a single CV shaft. It wouldn't justify the extra >engineering just for a 2.5" lift. When ever I need a speacail drive shaft, I have it built at a local drive shaft shop. I do not depend on online prefabbed ones. Even if I wind up paying a few extra bucks, I also wind up getting EXACTALLY what I want, not the closest fitting off shelve unit. Because of this I never really looked at what is availble ready made so I cannot comment on ready made over the counter solutions. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: Pinion angle
On Sat, 12 May 2007 03:42:51 +0300, "Bill Spiliotopoulos"
<vspili@yahoo.com> wrote: >I am not aware if it is possible to have a double CV rear driveshaft for a >Wrangler. >The driveshaft is so short that there might not be enough length to >accommodate the slip joint and CVs at both ends. >Also I haven't seen one provided off-the-self, so it would require ordering >and buiding to specifications, which would probably be more expensive than >using the common way of a single CV shaft. It wouldn't justify the extra >engineering just for a 2.5" lift. When ever I need a speacail drive shaft, I have it built at a local drive shaft shop. I do not depend on online prefabbed ones. Even if I wind up paying a few extra bucks, I also wind up getting EXACTALLY what I want, not the closest fitting off shelve unit. Because of this I never really looked at what is availble ready made so I cannot comment on ready made over the counter solutions. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: Pinion angle
On Fri, 11 May 2007 17:47:24 -0700, "Carl S"
<carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: >Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant imagine >4 joints on a single driveshaft... No more than he front drive axles on a front wheel drive car of truck with IFS. As far as strength, axle shafts handle more torque than any drive shaft. It is quite feasable and doable with correct design and parts. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: Pinion angle
On Fri, 11 May 2007 17:47:24 -0700, "Carl S"
<carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: >Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant imagine >4 joints on a single driveshaft... No more than he front drive axles on a front wheel drive car of truck with IFS. As far as strength, axle shafts handle more torque than any drive shaft. It is quite feasable and doable with correct design and parts. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: Pinion angle
On Fri, 11 May 2007 17:47:24 -0700, "Carl S"
<carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: >Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant imagine >4 joints on a single driveshaft... No more than he front drive axles on a front wheel drive car of truck with IFS. As far as strength, axle shafts handle more torque than any drive shaft. It is quite feasable and doable with correct design and parts. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: Pinion angle
On Fri, 11 May 2007 17:47:24 -0700, "Carl S"
<carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: >Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant imagine >4 joints on a single driveshaft... No more than he front drive axles on a front wheel drive car of truck with IFS. As far as strength, axle shafts handle more torque than any drive shaft. It is quite feasable and doable with correct design and parts. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Pinion angle
On 12 mayo, 08:41, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 May 2007 17:47:24 -0700, "Carl S" > > <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > >Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant imagine > >4 joints on a single driveshaft... > > No more than he front drive axles on a front wheel drive car of > truck with IFS. As far as strength, axle shafts handle more torque > than any drive shaft. It is quite feasable and doable with correct > design and parts. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com Thanks to all who replied, I have a beter perspective on this now. Thanks for the welding advise Bill S.. Although I will have a good welder do it, I'll make sure they take this into account. Did some angle measuring last night and found out the the stock pinion angle is up 2 degrees and the TC output is down 2 degrees. The operating angle of the stock DS is right at 10 degrees (12 degrees from the floor). Also, based on trig calculations assuming a super short SYE will be used, the plan is to: 1) weld the perches so that the pinion points up 8 degrees from parallel to the floor 2) shim down with a 6 degree shim untill the lift is installed 3) once lift is installed, shim the opposite way to get the required angle, looks like it should require less than 6 degrees even in the worst case 4) use a regular CV style DS (one u-joint at axle pinion and double u- joint at TC) Does this sound reasonable? No issues with 6 degree shimming? |
Re: Pinion angle
On 12 mayo, 08:41, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 May 2007 17:47:24 -0700, "Carl S" > > <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > >Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant imagine > >4 joints on a single driveshaft... > > No more than he front drive axles on a front wheel drive car of > truck with IFS. As far as strength, axle shafts handle more torque > than any drive shaft. It is quite feasable and doable with correct > design and parts. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com Thanks to all who replied, I have a beter perspective on this now. Thanks for the welding advise Bill S.. Although I will have a good welder do it, I'll make sure they take this into account. Did some angle measuring last night and found out the the stock pinion angle is up 2 degrees and the TC output is down 2 degrees. The operating angle of the stock DS is right at 10 degrees (12 degrees from the floor). Also, based on trig calculations assuming a super short SYE will be used, the plan is to: 1) weld the perches so that the pinion points up 8 degrees from parallel to the floor 2) shim down with a 6 degree shim untill the lift is installed 3) once lift is installed, shim the opposite way to get the required angle, looks like it should require less than 6 degrees even in the worst case 4) use a regular CV style DS (one u-joint at axle pinion and double u- joint at TC) Does this sound reasonable? No issues with 6 degree shimming? |
Re: Pinion angle
On 12 mayo, 08:41, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 May 2007 17:47:24 -0700, "Carl S" > > <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > >Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant imagine > >4 joints on a single driveshaft... > > No more than he front drive axles on a front wheel drive car of > truck with IFS. As far as strength, axle shafts handle more torque > than any drive shaft. It is quite feasable and doable with correct > design and parts. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com Thanks to all who replied, I have a beter perspective on this now. Thanks for the welding advise Bill S.. Although I will have a good welder do it, I'll make sure they take this into account. Did some angle measuring last night and found out the the stock pinion angle is up 2 degrees and the TC output is down 2 degrees. The operating angle of the stock DS is right at 10 degrees (12 degrees from the floor). Also, based on trig calculations assuming a super short SYE will be used, the plan is to: 1) weld the perches so that the pinion points up 8 degrees from parallel to the floor 2) shim down with a 6 degree shim untill the lift is installed 3) once lift is installed, shim the opposite way to get the required angle, looks like it should require less than 6 degrees even in the worst case 4) use a regular CV style DS (one u-joint at axle pinion and double u- joint at TC) Does this sound reasonable? No issues with 6 degree shimming? |
Re: Pinion angle
On 12 mayo, 08:41, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 May 2007 17:47:24 -0700, "Carl S" > > <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > >Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant imagine > >4 joints on a single driveshaft... > > No more than he front drive axles on a front wheel drive car of > truck with IFS. As far as strength, axle shafts handle more torque > than any drive shaft. It is quite feasable and doable with correct > design and parts. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com Thanks to all who replied, I have a beter perspective on this now. Thanks for the welding advise Bill S.. Although I will have a good welder do it, I'll make sure they take this into account. Did some angle measuring last night and found out the the stock pinion angle is up 2 degrees and the TC output is down 2 degrees. The operating angle of the stock DS is right at 10 degrees (12 degrees from the floor). Also, based on trig calculations assuming a super short SYE will be used, the plan is to: 1) weld the perches so that the pinion points up 8 degrees from parallel to the floor 2) shim down with a 6 degree shim untill the lift is installed 3) once lift is installed, shim the opposite way to get the required angle, looks like it should require less than 6 degrees even in the worst case 4) use a regular CV style DS (one u-joint at axle pinion and double u- joint at TC) Does this sound reasonable? No issues with 6 degree shimming? |
Re: Re: Pinion angle
On 12 May 2007 07:06:42 -0700, nrs <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 12 mayo, 08:41, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 11 May 2007 17:47:24 -0700, "Carl S" >> >> <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: >> >Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant imagine >> >4 joints on a single driveshaft... >> >> No more than he front drive axles on a front wheel drive car of >> truck with IFS. As far as strength, axle shafts handle more torque >> than any drive shaft. It is quite feasable and doable with correct >> design and parts. >> ----------------- >> TheSnoMan.com >Thanks to all who replied, I have a beter perspective on this now. >Thanks for the welding advise Bill S.. Although I will have a good >welder do it, I'll make sure they take this into account. > >Did some angle measuring last night and found out the the stock pinion >angle is up 2 degrees and the TC output is down 2 degrees. The >operating angle of the stock DS is right at 10 degrees (12 degrees >from the floor). Also, based on trig calculations assuming a super >short SYE will be used, the plan is to: > >1) weld the perches so that the pinion points up 8 degrees from >parallel to the floor >2) shim down with a 6 degree shim untill the lift is installed >3) once lift is installed, shim the opposite way to get the required >angle, looks like it should require less than 6 degrees even in the >worst case >4) use a regular CV style DS (one u-joint at axle pinion and double u- >joint at TC) > >Does this sound reasonable? No issues with 6 degree shimming? Just remember that you want the static angle on pinion a few degrees more in opposit direction than one on Tcase because the axle will wrapup and reduce the angle on the pinion from axle torque with a leaf spring suspension. Sometimes several degrees. THis is why some get vibration at certain loads and speeds and cannot figure out why. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Pinion angle
On 12 May 2007 07:06:42 -0700, nrs <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 12 mayo, 08:41, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 11 May 2007 17:47:24 -0700, "Carl S" >> >> <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: >> >Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant imagine >> >4 joints on a single driveshaft... >> >> No more than he front drive axles on a front wheel drive car of >> truck with IFS. As far as strength, axle shafts handle more torque >> than any drive shaft. It is quite feasable and doable with correct >> design and parts. >> ----------------- >> TheSnoMan.com >Thanks to all who replied, I have a beter perspective on this now. >Thanks for the welding advise Bill S.. Although I will have a good >welder do it, I'll make sure they take this into account. > >Did some angle measuring last night and found out the the stock pinion >angle is up 2 degrees and the TC output is down 2 degrees. The >operating angle of the stock DS is right at 10 degrees (12 degrees >from the floor). Also, based on trig calculations assuming a super >short SYE will be used, the plan is to: > >1) weld the perches so that the pinion points up 8 degrees from >parallel to the floor >2) shim down with a 6 degree shim untill the lift is installed >3) once lift is installed, shim the opposite way to get the required >angle, looks like it should require less than 6 degrees even in the >worst case >4) use a regular CV style DS (one u-joint at axle pinion and double u- >joint at TC) > >Does this sound reasonable? No issues with 6 degree shimming? Just remember that you want the static angle on pinion a few degrees more in opposit direction than one on Tcase because the axle will wrapup and reduce the angle on the pinion from axle torque with a leaf spring suspension. Sometimes several degrees. THis is why some get vibration at certain loads and speeds and cannot figure out why. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Pinion angle
On 12 May 2007 07:06:42 -0700, nrs <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 12 mayo, 08:41, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 11 May 2007 17:47:24 -0700, "Carl S" >> >> <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: >> >Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant imagine >> >4 joints on a single driveshaft... >> >> No more than he front drive axles on a front wheel drive car of >> truck with IFS. As far as strength, axle shafts handle more torque >> than any drive shaft. It is quite feasable and doable with correct >> design and parts. >> ----------------- >> TheSnoMan.com >Thanks to all who replied, I have a beter perspective on this now. >Thanks for the welding advise Bill S.. Although I will have a good >welder do it, I'll make sure they take this into account. > >Did some angle measuring last night and found out the the stock pinion >angle is up 2 degrees and the TC output is down 2 degrees. The >operating angle of the stock DS is right at 10 degrees (12 degrees >from the floor). Also, based on trig calculations assuming a super >short SYE will be used, the plan is to: > >1) weld the perches so that the pinion points up 8 degrees from >parallel to the floor >2) shim down with a 6 degree shim untill the lift is installed >3) once lift is installed, shim the opposite way to get the required >angle, looks like it should require less than 6 degrees even in the >worst case >4) use a regular CV style DS (one u-joint at axle pinion and double u- >joint at TC) > >Does this sound reasonable? No issues with 6 degree shimming? Just remember that you want the static angle on pinion a few degrees more in opposit direction than one on Tcase because the axle will wrapup and reduce the angle on the pinion from axle torque with a leaf spring suspension. Sometimes several degrees. THis is why some get vibration at certain loads and speeds and cannot figure out why. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Pinion angle
On 12 May 2007 07:06:42 -0700, nrs <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 12 mayo, 08:41, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 11 May 2007 17:47:24 -0700, "Carl S" >> >> <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: >> >Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant imagine >> >4 joints on a single driveshaft... >> >> No more than he front drive axles on a front wheel drive car of >> truck with IFS. As far as strength, axle shafts handle more torque >> than any drive shaft. It is quite feasable and doable with correct >> design and parts. >> ----------------- >> TheSnoMan.com >Thanks to all who replied, I have a beter perspective on this now. >Thanks for the welding advise Bill S.. Although I will have a good >welder do it, I'll make sure they take this into account. > >Did some angle measuring last night and found out the the stock pinion >angle is up 2 degrees and the TC output is down 2 degrees. The >operating angle of the stock DS is right at 10 degrees (12 degrees >from the floor). Also, based on trig calculations assuming a super >short SYE will be used, the plan is to: > >1) weld the perches so that the pinion points up 8 degrees from >parallel to the floor >2) shim down with a 6 degree shim untill the lift is installed >3) once lift is installed, shim the opposite way to get the required >angle, looks like it should require less than 6 degrees even in the >worst case >4) use a regular CV style DS (one u-joint at axle pinion and double u- >joint at TC) > >Does this sound reasonable? No issues with 6 degree shimming? Just remember that you want the static angle on pinion a few degrees more in opposit direction than one on Tcase because the axle will wrapup and reduce the angle on the pinion from axle torque with a leaf spring suspension. Sometimes several degrees. THis is why some get vibration at certain loads and speeds and cannot figure out why. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Pinion angle
On May 12, 12:46 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote: > Yup:http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/ > > "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1178906375.283917.287930@w5g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com... > > > > > > > > > I bought a Cherokee Dana 44 today and am trying to decide the best way > > to install it. The vehicle is a '95 Yj with 2.5L engine and all stock > > drivetrain and no lift. The stock drive shaft length between u-joint > > cap centers is 14.5 inches. The doubt arises because I plan to lift > > the jeep 2.5 inches next year using leaf spring lift only. > > > Two options: > > > 1) stick with single cardan drive shafts: Will the angles be Ok after > > the lift with a SYE and Transfer case output and pinion parallel to > > each other? > > > 2) go with CV style driveshaft: Should the Dana 44 be installed with > > some upward angle on the pinion (with no lift, maybe using shims to > > lower it to parallel for now) to avoid rewelding to rotate once the > > lift is in place? > > > My main goal is to maximize reliability. Which would be the best > > option to choose? > > > Thanks > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Thanks to all who replied. I will most likely go with the plan described. |
Re: Pinion angle
On May 12, 12:46 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote: > Yup:http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/ > > "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1178906375.283917.287930@w5g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com... > > > > > > > > > I bought a Cherokee Dana 44 today and am trying to decide the best way > > to install it. The vehicle is a '95 Yj with 2.5L engine and all stock > > drivetrain and no lift. The stock drive shaft length between u-joint > > cap centers is 14.5 inches. The doubt arises because I plan to lift > > the jeep 2.5 inches next year using leaf spring lift only. > > > Two options: > > > 1) stick with single cardan drive shafts: Will the angles be Ok after > > the lift with a SYE and Transfer case output and pinion parallel to > > each other? > > > 2) go with CV style driveshaft: Should the Dana 44 be installed with > > some upward angle on the pinion (with no lift, maybe using shims to > > lower it to parallel for now) to avoid rewelding to rotate once the > > lift is in place? > > > My main goal is to maximize reliability. Which would be the best > > option to choose? > > > Thanks > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Thanks to all who replied. I will most likely go with the plan described. |
Re: Pinion angle
On May 12, 12:46 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote: > Yup:http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/ > > "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1178906375.283917.287930@w5g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com... > > > > > > > > > I bought a Cherokee Dana 44 today and am trying to decide the best way > > to install it. The vehicle is a '95 Yj with 2.5L engine and all stock > > drivetrain and no lift. The stock drive shaft length between u-joint > > cap centers is 14.5 inches. The doubt arises because I plan to lift > > the jeep 2.5 inches next year using leaf spring lift only. > > > Two options: > > > 1) stick with single cardan drive shafts: Will the angles be Ok after > > the lift with a SYE and Transfer case output and pinion parallel to > > each other? > > > 2) go with CV style driveshaft: Should the Dana 44 be installed with > > some upward angle on the pinion (with no lift, maybe using shims to > > lower it to parallel for now) to avoid rewelding to rotate once the > > lift is in place? > > > My main goal is to maximize reliability. Which would be the best > > option to choose? > > > Thanks > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Thanks to all who replied. I will most likely go with the plan described. |
Re: Pinion angle
On May 12, 12:46 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote: > Yup:http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/ > > "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1178906375.283917.287930@w5g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com... > > > > > > > > > I bought a Cherokee Dana 44 today and am trying to decide the best way > > to install it. The vehicle is a '95 Yj with 2.5L engine and all stock > > drivetrain and no lift. The stock drive shaft length between u-joint > > cap centers is 14.5 inches. The doubt arises because I plan to lift > > the jeep 2.5 inches next year using leaf spring lift only. > > > Two options: > > > 1) stick with single cardan drive shafts: Will the angles be Ok after > > the lift with a SYE and Transfer case output and pinion parallel to > > each other? > > > 2) go with CV style driveshaft: Should the Dana 44 be installed with > > some upward angle on the pinion (with no lift, maybe using shims to > > lower it to parallel for now) to avoid rewelding to rotate once the > > lift is in place? > > > My main goal is to maximize reliability. Which would be the best > > option to choose? > > > Thanks > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Thanks to all who replied. I will most likely go with the plan described. |
Re: Re: Re: Pinion angle
Sno,
Thanks for citing examples, I stand corrected. Carl "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:3tgb431o02ce0mg77e6mvjfabmdvj1inn9@4ax.com... > On Fri, 11 May 2007 17:47:24 -0700, "Carl S" > <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > >>Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant >>imagine >>4 joints on a single driveshaft... > > > No more than he front drive axles on a front wheel drive car of > truck with IFS. As far as strength, axle shafts handle more torque > than any drive shaft. It is quite feasable and doable with correct > design and parts. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: Pinion angle
Sno,
Thanks for citing examples, I stand corrected. Carl "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:3tgb431o02ce0mg77e6mvjfabmdvj1inn9@4ax.com... > On Fri, 11 May 2007 17:47:24 -0700, "Carl S" > <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > >>Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant >>imagine >>4 joints on a single driveshaft... > > > No more than he front drive axles on a front wheel drive car of > truck with IFS. As far as strength, axle shafts handle more torque > than any drive shaft. It is quite feasable and doable with correct > design and parts. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: Pinion angle
Sno,
Thanks for citing examples, I stand corrected. Carl "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:3tgb431o02ce0mg77e6mvjfabmdvj1inn9@4ax.com... > On Fri, 11 May 2007 17:47:24 -0700, "Carl S" > <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > >>Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant >>imagine >>4 joints on a single driveshaft... > > > No more than he front drive axles on a front wheel drive car of > truck with IFS. As far as strength, axle shafts handle more torque > than any drive shaft. It is quite feasable and doable with correct > design and parts. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: Pinion angle
Sno,
Thanks for citing examples, I stand corrected. Carl "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message news:3tgb431o02ce0mg77e6mvjfabmdvj1inn9@4ax.com... > On Fri, 11 May 2007 17:47:24 -0700, "Carl S" > <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > >>Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant >>imagine >>4 joints on a single driveshaft... > > > No more than he front drive axles on a front wheel drive car of > truck with IFS. As far as strength, axle shafts handle more torque > than any drive shaft. It is quite feasable and doable with correct > design and parts. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com |
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