PING - Snow
#21
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Re: PING - Snow
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4187FB96.AAD0B8E3@sympatico.ca...
> : Gents, I just had a look at my wife's daily driver, our XJ and it is a
> : total 'Flinstone' machine on the drivers side. Just carpet and a frame
> : rail, nothing else.
> :
> : It also has ratty but not too bad rockers. Where did you find them for
> : $41?
>
> I got it through the guy that painted my XJ... where he got it I don't know
> but he charged me $41. It doesn't seem likely that he made any profit from
> me.
>
> I'd be willing to bet it's more than just the drivers side. Check over the
> muffler area on the pass. side. Lift the thick rubber insulation on the
> firewall/footwells. Under the rear seat at the interior crossmember.
>
> :
> : I have a little 115V 'MIG' flux core wirefeed welder that is sweet for
> : sheet metal on low power. It will cut it on high.
> :
> : Though I think I might just plate the floor with anything, maybe just
> : duct tape and cardboard as a filler and 'glass the sucker. That way
> : they can never rust out again! I have tons of nice fiberglass sheet and
> : rosin around and I have had past welded rust repairs rot out fast
> : because of the loss of temper at the weld joint.
>
> That might work for a quick fix but as you know the pseudo-frame needs steel
> floorpans to limit twist. It's pretty thin gauge (10-12), if you glass to it
> I'd be willing to bet it would crack your repair the first time you pull out
> of your driveway. Glass would likely be fine in the cargo area but I'd weld
> in the pass. area.
>
> -Brian
Good point. I am getting the welder out anyway to make strikers for my
hard doors. I want to mount them off my roll bar so my 'glass body
doesn't have the impact on it.
I figure after 4 years of driving with just the bikini and soft tops
it's time to have a comfy winter with the hard top and hard doors on
seeing as I have the things collecting dust in the garage.
Mike
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4187FB96.AAD0B8E3@sympatico.ca...
> : Gents, I just had a look at my wife's daily driver, our XJ and it is a
> : total 'Flinstone' machine on the drivers side. Just carpet and a frame
> : rail, nothing else.
> :
> : It also has ratty but not too bad rockers. Where did you find them for
> : $41?
>
> I got it through the guy that painted my XJ... where he got it I don't know
> but he charged me $41. It doesn't seem likely that he made any profit from
> me.
>
> I'd be willing to bet it's more than just the drivers side. Check over the
> muffler area on the pass. side. Lift the thick rubber insulation on the
> firewall/footwells. Under the rear seat at the interior crossmember.
>
> :
> : I have a little 115V 'MIG' flux core wirefeed welder that is sweet for
> : sheet metal on low power. It will cut it on high.
> :
> : Though I think I might just plate the floor with anything, maybe just
> : duct tape and cardboard as a filler and 'glass the sucker. That way
> : they can never rust out again! I have tons of nice fiberglass sheet and
> : rosin around and I have had past welded rust repairs rot out fast
> : because of the loss of temper at the weld joint.
>
> That might work for a quick fix but as you know the pseudo-frame needs steel
> floorpans to limit twist. It's pretty thin gauge (10-12), if you glass to it
> I'd be willing to bet it would crack your repair the first time you pull out
> of your driveway. Glass would likely be fine in the cargo area but I'd weld
> in the pass. area.
>
> -Brian
Good point. I am getting the welder out anyway to make strikers for my
hard doors. I want to mount them off my roll bar so my 'glass body
doesn't have the impact on it.
I figure after 4 years of driving with just the bikini and soft tops
it's time to have a comfy winter with the hard top and hard doors on
seeing as I have the things collecting dust in the garage.
Mike
#22
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Re: PING - Snow
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4187FB96.AAD0B8E3@sympatico.ca...
> : Gents, I just had a look at my wife's daily driver, our XJ and it is a
> : total 'Flinstone' machine on the drivers side. Just carpet and a frame
> : rail, nothing else.
> :
> : It also has ratty but not too bad rockers. Where did you find them for
> : $41?
>
> I got it through the guy that painted my XJ... where he got it I don't know
> but he charged me $41. It doesn't seem likely that he made any profit from
> me.
>
> I'd be willing to bet it's more than just the drivers side. Check over the
> muffler area on the pass. side. Lift the thick rubber insulation on the
> firewall/footwells. Under the rear seat at the interior crossmember.
>
> :
> : I have a little 115V 'MIG' flux core wirefeed welder that is sweet for
> : sheet metal on low power. It will cut it on high.
> :
> : Though I think I might just plate the floor with anything, maybe just
> : duct tape and cardboard as a filler and 'glass the sucker. That way
> : they can never rust out again! I have tons of nice fiberglass sheet and
> : rosin around and I have had past welded rust repairs rot out fast
> : because of the loss of temper at the weld joint.
>
> That might work for a quick fix but as you know the pseudo-frame needs steel
> floorpans to limit twist. It's pretty thin gauge (10-12), if you glass to it
> I'd be willing to bet it would crack your repair the first time you pull out
> of your driveway. Glass would likely be fine in the cargo area but I'd weld
> in the pass. area.
>
> -Brian
Good point. I am getting the welder out anyway to make strikers for my
hard doors. I want to mount them off my roll bar so my 'glass body
doesn't have the impact on it.
I figure after 4 years of driving with just the bikini and soft tops
it's time to have a comfy winter with the hard top and hard doors on
seeing as I have the things collecting dust in the garage.
Mike
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4187FB96.AAD0B8E3@sympatico.ca...
> : Gents, I just had a look at my wife's daily driver, our XJ and it is a
> : total 'Flinstone' machine on the drivers side. Just carpet and a frame
> : rail, nothing else.
> :
> : It also has ratty but not too bad rockers. Where did you find them for
> : $41?
>
> I got it through the guy that painted my XJ... where he got it I don't know
> but he charged me $41. It doesn't seem likely that he made any profit from
> me.
>
> I'd be willing to bet it's more than just the drivers side. Check over the
> muffler area on the pass. side. Lift the thick rubber insulation on the
> firewall/footwells. Under the rear seat at the interior crossmember.
>
> :
> : I have a little 115V 'MIG' flux core wirefeed welder that is sweet for
> : sheet metal on low power. It will cut it on high.
> :
> : Though I think I might just plate the floor with anything, maybe just
> : duct tape and cardboard as a filler and 'glass the sucker. That way
> : they can never rust out again! I have tons of nice fiberglass sheet and
> : rosin around and I have had past welded rust repairs rot out fast
> : because of the loss of temper at the weld joint.
>
> That might work for a quick fix but as you know the pseudo-frame needs steel
> floorpans to limit twist. It's pretty thin gauge (10-12), if you glass to it
> I'd be willing to bet it would crack your repair the first time you pull out
> of your driveway. Glass would likely be fine in the cargo area but I'd weld
> in the pass. area.
>
> -Brian
Good point. I am getting the welder out anyway to make strikers for my
hard doors. I want to mount them off my roll bar so my 'glass body
doesn't have the impact on it.
I figure after 4 years of driving with just the bikini and soft tops
it's time to have a comfy winter with the hard top and hard doors on
seeing as I have the things collecting dust in the garage.
Mike
#23
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Re: PING - Snow
The cheapest rockers I've found so far are $61 (plus taxes) and they are
"dent & ding" from a semi-local parts place manufacture wants $61 (plus
taxes) and $25 to $35 for delivery, so for the $120 to $155 I figured I
could pick up either a sheet of 22-20 gauge sheet metal (about $45) or 3x3
box tubing (about $50-$75 for the lengths I need), I decided that since 1)
my passenger side rocker is still solid and 2) since the box tubing would
require cutting out both rocker remains, I would go with the sheet metal and
weld them back on , guess really it would be more like a rocker skin. Also
this way I only have to do them one at a time.
Snow...
"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:aIadnRxa64UabBrcRVn-pA@rogers.com...
> You are making rockers?
> Mine were $41/each and fit perfect, you are punishing yourself!
> -Brian
>
> "Snow" <snowbalsantasdog@sympaticosantasdog.ca> wrote in message
> news:GuLhd.10523$dj2.462747@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> : Uhmmmmm "under way" lol
> : Picking up the sheet metal sometime this week and rough cutting it to
> size,
> : one of the structures guys at work said he would bend it up for me. As
> long
> : as I get the drivers side done before the January freeze I'm ok..besides
> : when I did my floors it was late November and lightly snowing ..lol
> :
> : Snow...
> :
> : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> : news:26KdnQ41lem0NxvcRVn-3w@rogers.com...
> : > Hey Craig,
> : > The weather is not on our side much longer, get those rockers done
yet?
> : > I spent Saturday and part of Sunday cutting, banging and welding my
> : floors.
> : > Burned off a bottle of gas in the process! I'll post some pictures
soon.
> : >
> : > -Brian
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
"dent & ding" from a semi-local parts place manufacture wants $61 (plus
taxes) and $25 to $35 for delivery, so for the $120 to $155 I figured I
could pick up either a sheet of 22-20 gauge sheet metal (about $45) or 3x3
box tubing (about $50-$75 for the lengths I need), I decided that since 1)
my passenger side rocker is still solid and 2) since the box tubing would
require cutting out both rocker remains, I would go with the sheet metal and
weld them back on , guess really it would be more like a rocker skin. Also
this way I only have to do them one at a time.
Snow...
"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:aIadnRxa64UabBrcRVn-pA@rogers.com...
> You are making rockers?
> Mine were $41/each and fit perfect, you are punishing yourself!
> -Brian
>
> "Snow" <snowbalsantasdog@sympaticosantasdog.ca> wrote in message
> news:GuLhd.10523$dj2.462747@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> : Uhmmmmm "under way" lol
> : Picking up the sheet metal sometime this week and rough cutting it to
> size,
> : one of the structures guys at work said he would bend it up for me. As
> long
> : as I get the drivers side done before the January freeze I'm ok..besides
> : when I did my floors it was late November and lightly snowing ..lol
> :
> : Snow...
> :
> : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> : news:26KdnQ41lem0NxvcRVn-3w@rogers.com...
> : > Hey Craig,
> : > The weather is not on our side much longer, get those rockers done
yet?
> : > I spent Saturday and part of Sunday cutting, banging and welding my
> : floors.
> : > Burned off a bottle of gas in the process! I'll post some pictures
soon.
> : >
> : > -Brian
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
#24
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Re: PING - Snow
The cheapest rockers I've found so far are $61 (plus taxes) and they are
"dent & ding" from a semi-local parts place manufacture wants $61 (plus
taxes) and $25 to $35 for delivery, so for the $120 to $155 I figured I
could pick up either a sheet of 22-20 gauge sheet metal (about $45) or 3x3
box tubing (about $50-$75 for the lengths I need), I decided that since 1)
my passenger side rocker is still solid and 2) since the box tubing would
require cutting out both rocker remains, I would go with the sheet metal and
weld them back on , guess really it would be more like a rocker skin. Also
this way I only have to do them one at a time.
Snow...
"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:aIadnRxa64UabBrcRVn-pA@rogers.com...
> You are making rockers?
> Mine were $41/each and fit perfect, you are punishing yourself!
> -Brian
>
> "Snow" <snowbalsantasdog@sympaticosantasdog.ca> wrote in message
> news:GuLhd.10523$dj2.462747@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> : Uhmmmmm "under way" lol
> : Picking up the sheet metal sometime this week and rough cutting it to
> size,
> : one of the structures guys at work said he would bend it up for me. As
> long
> : as I get the drivers side done before the January freeze I'm ok..besides
> : when I did my floors it was late November and lightly snowing ..lol
> :
> : Snow...
> :
> : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> : news:26KdnQ41lem0NxvcRVn-3w@rogers.com...
> : > Hey Craig,
> : > The weather is not on our side much longer, get those rockers done
yet?
> : > I spent Saturday and part of Sunday cutting, banging and welding my
> : floors.
> : > Burned off a bottle of gas in the process! I'll post some pictures
soon.
> : >
> : > -Brian
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
"dent & ding" from a semi-local parts place manufacture wants $61 (plus
taxes) and $25 to $35 for delivery, so for the $120 to $155 I figured I
could pick up either a sheet of 22-20 gauge sheet metal (about $45) or 3x3
box tubing (about $50-$75 for the lengths I need), I decided that since 1)
my passenger side rocker is still solid and 2) since the box tubing would
require cutting out both rocker remains, I would go with the sheet metal and
weld them back on , guess really it would be more like a rocker skin. Also
this way I only have to do them one at a time.
Snow...
"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:aIadnRxa64UabBrcRVn-pA@rogers.com...
> You are making rockers?
> Mine were $41/each and fit perfect, you are punishing yourself!
> -Brian
>
> "Snow" <snowbalsantasdog@sympaticosantasdog.ca> wrote in message
> news:GuLhd.10523$dj2.462747@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> : Uhmmmmm "under way" lol
> : Picking up the sheet metal sometime this week and rough cutting it to
> size,
> : one of the structures guys at work said he would bend it up for me. As
> long
> : as I get the drivers side done before the January freeze I'm ok..besides
> : when I did my floors it was late November and lightly snowing ..lol
> :
> : Snow...
> :
> : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> : news:26KdnQ41lem0NxvcRVn-3w@rogers.com...
> : > Hey Craig,
> : > The weather is not on our side much longer, get those rockers done
yet?
> : > I spent Saturday and part of Sunday cutting, banging and welding my
> : floors.
> : > Burned off a bottle of gas in the process! I'll post some pictures
soon.
> : >
> : > -Brian
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
#25
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Re: PING - Snow
The cheapest rockers I've found so far are $61 (plus taxes) and they are
"dent & ding" from a semi-local parts place manufacture wants $61 (plus
taxes) and $25 to $35 for delivery, so for the $120 to $155 I figured I
could pick up either a sheet of 22-20 gauge sheet metal (about $45) or 3x3
box tubing (about $50-$75 for the lengths I need), I decided that since 1)
my passenger side rocker is still solid and 2) since the box tubing would
require cutting out both rocker remains, I would go with the sheet metal and
weld them back on , guess really it would be more like a rocker skin. Also
this way I only have to do them one at a time.
Snow...
"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:aIadnRxa64UabBrcRVn-pA@rogers.com...
> You are making rockers?
> Mine were $41/each and fit perfect, you are punishing yourself!
> -Brian
>
> "Snow" <snowbalsantasdog@sympaticosantasdog.ca> wrote in message
> news:GuLhd.10523$dj2.462747@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> : Uhmmmmm "under way" lol
> : Picking up the sheet metal sometime this week and rough cutting it to
> size,
> : one of the structures guys at work said he would bend it up for me. As
> long
> : as I get the drivers side done before the January freeze I'm ok..besides
> : when I did my floors it was late November and lightly snowing ..lol
> :
> : Snow...
> :
> : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> : news:26KdnQ41lem0NxvcRVn-3w@rogers.com...
> : > Hey Craig,
> : > The weather is not on our side much longer, get those rockers done
yet?
> : > I spent Saturday and part of Sunday cutting, banging and welding my
> : floors.
> : > Burned off a bottle of gas in the process! I'll post some pictures
soon.
> : >
> : > -Brian
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
"dent & ding" from a semi-local parts place manufacture wants $61 (plus
taxes) and $25 to $35 for delivery, so for the $120 to $155 I figured I
could pick up either a sheet of 22-20 gauge sheet metal (about $45) or 3x3
box tubing (about $50-$75 for the lengths I need), I decided that since 1)
my passenger side rocker is still solid and 2) since the box tubing would
require cutting out both rocker remains, I would go with the sheet metal and
weld them back on , guess really it would be more like a rocker skin. Also
this way I only have to do them one at a time.
Snow...
"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:aIadnRxa64UabBrcRVn-pA@rogers.com...
> You are making rockers?
> Mine were $41/each and fit perfect, you are punishing yourself!
> -Brian
>
> "Snow" <snowbalsantasdog@sympaticosantasdog.ca> wrote in message
> news:GuLhd.10523$dj2.462747@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> : Uhmmmmm "under way" lol
> : Picking up the sheet metal sometime this week and rough cutting it to
> size,
> : one of the structures guys at work said he would bend it up for me. As
> long
> : as I get the drivers side done before the January freeze I'm ok..besides
> : when I did my floors it was late November and lightly snowing ..lol
> :
> : Snow...
> :
> : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> : news:26KdnQ41lem0NxvcRVn-3w@rogers.com...
> : > Hey Craig,
> : > The weather is not on our side much longer, get those rockers done
yet?
> : > I spent Saturday and part of Sunday cutting, banging and welding my
> : floors.
> : > Burned off a bottle of gas in the process! I'll post some pictures
soon.
> : >
> : > -Brian
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
#26
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Re: PING - Snow
Hi,
I say box steel. Why invest time and money in sheet metal that will get
shredded by rocks or rotted by salt? I replaced mine with 2x6x3/16 box
and couldn't be happier with the result:
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/rockers
It was really easy to do. I got the box tube and end plates cut to size
by the metal retailer. I used a 4" grinder to chop out the old rocker
panels in a matter of minutes. I chose to run my box tubes from wheel
well to wheel well, so I cut the front and rear fenders & flares to sit
flush on top of the tubes. Again, no big deal to cut them. I used the
grinder to cut 1-2' sections of 2x2x1/8 angle iron to act as support
shelves with intermittent spacing to accommodate frame bolts and provide
access for undercoating and drainage. The tubes were intended for air
tanks, so I drilled and tapped them for fittings and drain plugs, and
used the grinder to round and bevel the edges of the end plates to make
a good mate for the welds. All this prep work took just a few hours
including the requisite number of beer breaks.
I had help from an experienced welder to put it all together. First, he
welded the end caps in place and ground and rewelded to get a good air
seal. We then held the box tube in place with jacks and tack welded the
angle iron sections in place. The tube was then removed and the angle
irons were fully welded to the body. The worst part of the job was
pulling up the edge of the carpet and applying air and water from the
inside to keep things from burning as the weld progressed. From there it
was easy going to weld the tubes in place.
Finishing was quick. I applied flexible auto body sealer to cover the
weld seams and the gaps between fenders and rockers. Then some rattlecan
black to complete the job.
I love this mod. I can slide over and pivot on rocks, I have a solid
hilift jack point anywhere between the wheels, and I have 24 litres (6.5
US gal) of air cushion to inflate tires, run air tools, and engage
lockers with my 80-110 psi onboard air system. Total retail cost for box
tubes (2 x 66.75"), angle iron (12'), and end caps was under 150 loons.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Snow wrote:
> The cheapest rockers I've found so far are $61 (plus taxes) and they are
> "dent & ding" from a semi-local parts place manufacture wants $61 (plus
> taxes) and $25 to $35 for delivery, so for the $120 to $155 I figured I
> could pick up either a sheet of 22-20 gauge sheet metal (about $45) or 3x3
> box tubing (about $50-$75 for the lengths I need), I decided that since 1)
> my passenger side rocker is still solid and 2) since the box tubing would
> require cutting out both rocker remains, I would go with the sheet metal and
> weld them back on , guess really it would be more like a rocker skin. Also
> this way I only have to do them one at a time.
>
> Snow...
>
> "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> news:aIadnRxa64UabBrcRVn-pA@rogers.com...
>
>>You are making rockers?
>>Mine were $41/each and fit perfect, you are punishing yourself!
>>-Brian
>>
>>"Snow" <snowbalsantasdog@sympaticosantasdog.ca> wrote in message
>>news:GuLhd.10523$dj2.462747@news20.bellglobal.co m...
>>: Uhmmmmm "under way" lol
>>: Picking up the sheet metal sometime this week and rough cutting it to
>>size,
>>: one of the structures guys at work said he would bend it up for me. As
>>long
>>: as I get the drivers side done before the January freeze I'm ok..besides
>>: when I did my floors it was late November and lightly snowing ..lol
>>:
>>: Snow...
I say box steel. Why invest time and money in sheet metal that will get
shredded by rocks or rotted by salt? I replaced mine with 2x6x3/16 box
and couldn't be happier with the result:
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/rockers
It was really easy to do. I got the box tube and end plates cut to size
by the metal retailer. I used a 4" grinder to chop out the old rocker
panels in a matter of minutes. I chose to run my box tubes from wheel
well to wheel well, so I cut the front and rear fenders & flares to sit
flush on top of the tubes. Again, no big deal to cut them. I used the
grinder to cut 1-2' sections of 2x2x1/8 angle iron to act as support
shelves with intermittent spacing to accommodate frame bolts and provide
access for undercoating and drainage. The tubes were intended for air
tanks, so I drilled and tapped them for fittings and drain plugs, and
used the grinder to round and bevel the edges of the end plates to make
a good mate for the welds. All this prep work took just a few hours
including the requisite number of beer breaks.
I had help from an experienced welder to put it all together. First, he
welded the end caps in place and ground and rewelded to get a good air
seal. We then held the box tube in place with jacks and tack welded the
angle iron sections in place. The tube was then removed and the angle
irons were fully welded to the body. The worst part of the job was
pulling up the edge of the carpet and applying air and water from the
inside to keep things from burning as the weld progressed. From there it
was easy going to weld the tubes in place.
Finishing was quick. I applied flexible auto body sealer to cover the
weld seams and the gaps between fenders and rockers. Then some rattlecan
black to complete the job.
I love this mod. I can slide over and pivot on rocks, I have a solid
hilift jack point anywhere between the wheels, and I have 24 litres (6.5
US gal) of air cushion to inflate tires, run air tools, and engage
lockers with my 80-110 psi onboard air system. Total retail cost for box
tubes (2 x 66.75"), angle iron (12'), and end caps was under 150 loons.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Snow wrote:
> The cheapest rockers I've found so far are $61 (plus taxes) and they are
> "dent & ding" from a semi-local parts place manufacture wants $61 (plus
> taxes) and $25 to $35 for delivery, so for the $120 to $155 I figured I
> could pick up either a sheet of 22-20 gauge sheet metal (about $45) or 3x3
> box tubing (about $50-$75 for the lengths I need), I decided that since 1)
> my passenger side rocker is still solid and 2) since the box tubing would
> require cutting out both rocker remains, I would go with the sheet metal and
> weld them back on , guess really it would be more like a rocker skin. Also
> this way I only have to do them one at a time.
>
> Snow...
>
> "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> news:aIadnRxa64UabBrcRVn-pA@rogers.com...
>
>>You are making rockers?
>>Mine were $41/each and fit perfect, you are punishing yourself!
>>-Brian
>>
>>"Snow" <snowbalsantasdog@sympaticosantasdog.ca> wrote in message
>>news:GuLhd.10523$dj2.462747@news20.bellglobal.co m...
>>: Uhmmmmm "under way" lol
>>: Picking up the sheet metal sometime this week and rough cutting it to
>>size,
>>: one of the structures guys at work said he would bend it up for me. As
>>long
>>: as I get the drivers side done before the January freeze I'm ok..besides
>>: when I did my floors it was late November and lightly snowing ..lol
>>:
>>: Snow...
#27
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Re: PING - Snow
Hi,
I say box steel. Why invest time and money in sheet metal that will get
shredded by rocks or rotted by salt? I replaced mine with 2x6x3/16 box
and couldn't be happier with the result:
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/rockers
It was really easy to do. I got the box tube and end plates cut to size
by the metal retailer. I used a 4" grinder to chop out the old rocker
panels in a matter of minutes. I chose to run my box tubes from wheel
well to wheel well, so I cut the front and rear fenders & flares to sit
flush on top of the tubes. Again, no big deal to cut them. I used the
grinder to cut 1-2' sections of 2x2x1/8 angle iron to act as support
shelves with intermittent spacing to accommodate frame bolts and provide
access for undercoating and drainage. The tubes were intended for air
tanks, so I drilled and tapped them for fittings and drain plugs, and
used the grinder to round and bevel the edges of the end plates to make
a good mate for the welds. All this prep work took just a few hours
including the requisite number of beer breaks.
I had help from an experienced welder to put it all together. First, he
welded the end caps in place and ground and rewelded to get a good air
seal. We then held the box tube in place with jacks and tack welded the
angle iron sections in place. The tube was then removed and the angle
irons were fully welded to the body. The worst part of the job was
pulling up the edge of the carpet and applying air and water from the
inside to keep things from burning as the weld progressed. From there it
was easy going to weld the tubes in place.
Finishing was quick. I applied flexible auto body sealer to cover the
weld seams and the gaps between fenders and rockers. Then some rattlecan
black to complete the job.
I love this mod. I can slide over and pivot on rocks, I have a solid
hilift jack point anywhere between the wheels, and I have 24 litres (6.5
US gal) of air cushion to inflate tires, run air tools, and engage
lockers with my 80-110 psi onboard air system. Total retail cost for box
tubes (2 x 66.75"), angle iron (12'), and end caps was under 150 loons.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Snow wrote:
> The cheapest rockers I've found so far are $61 (plus taxes) and they are
> "dent & ding" from a semi-local parts place manufacture wants $61 (plus
> taxes) and $25 to $35 for delivery, so for the $120 to $155 I figured I
> could pick up either a sheet of 22-20 gauge sheet metal (about $45) or 3x3
> box tubing (about $50-$75 for the lengths I need), I decided that since 1)
> my passenger side rocker is still solid and 2) since the box tubing would
> require cutting out both rocker remains, I would go with the sheet metal and
> weld them back on , guess really it would be more like a rocker skin. Also
> this way I only have to do them one at a time.
>
> Snow...
>
> "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> news:aIadnRxa64UabBrcRVn-pA@rogers.com...
>
>>You are making rockers?
>>Mine were $41/each and fit perfect, you are punishing yourself!
>>-Brian
>>
>>"Snow" <snowbalsantasdog@sympaticosantasdog.ca> wrote in message
>>news:GuLhd.10523$dj2.462747@news20.bellglobal.co m...
>>: Uhmmmmm "under way" lol
>>: Picking up the sheet metal sometime this week and rough cutting it to
>>size,
>>: one of the structures guys at work said he would bend it up for me. As
>>long
>>: as I get the drivers side done before the January freeze I'm ok..besides
>>: when I did my floors it was late November and lightly snowing ..lol
>>:
>>: Snow...
I say box steel. Why invest time and money in sheet metal that will get
shredded by rocks or rotted by salt? I replaced mine with 2x6x3/16 box
and couldn't be happier with the result:
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/rockers
It was really easy to do. I got the box tube and end plates cut to size
by the metal retailer. I used a 4" grinder to chop out the old rocker
panels in a matter of minutes. I chose to run my box tubes from wheel
well to wheel well, so I cut the front and rear fenders & flares to sit
flush on top of the tubes. Again, no big deal to cut them. I used the
grinder to cut 1-2' sections of 2x2x1/8 angle iron to act as support
shelves with intermittent spacing to accommodate frame bolts and provide
access for undercoating and drainage. The tubes were intended for air
tanks, so I drilled and tapped them for fittings and drain plugs, and
used the grinder to round and bevel the edges of the end plates to make
a good mate for the welds. All this prep work took just a few hours
including the requisite number of beer breaks.
I had help from an experienced welder to put it all together. First, he
welded the end caps in place and ground and rewelded to get a good air
seal. We then held the box tube in place with jacks and tack welded the
angle iron sections in place. The tube was then removed and the angle
irons were fully welded to the body. The worst part of the job was
pulling up the edge of the carpet and applying air and water from the
inside to keep things from burning as the weld progressed. From there it
was easy going to weld the tubes in place.
Finishing was quick. I applied flexible auto body sealer to cover the
weld seams and the gaps between fenders and rockers. Then some rattlecan
black to complete the job.
I love this mod. I can slide over and pivot on rocks, I have a solid
hilift jack point anywhere between the wheels, and I have 24 litres (6.5
US gal) of air cushion to inflate tires, run air tools, and engage
lockers with my 80-110 psi onboard air system. Total retail cost for box
tubes (2 x 66.75"), angle iron (12'), and end caps was under 150 loons.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Snow wrote:
> The cheapest rockers I've found so far are $61 (plus taxes) and they are
> "dent & ding" from a semi-local parts place manufacture wants $61 (plus
> taxes) and $25 to $35 for delivery, so for the $120 to $155 I figured I
> could pick up either a sheet of 22-20 gauge sheet metal (about $45) or 3x3
> box tubing (about $50-$75 for the lengths I need), I decided that since 1)
> my passenger side rocker is still solid and 2) since the box tubing would
> require cutting out both rocker remains, I would go with the sheet metal and
> weld them back on , guess really it would be more like a rocker skin. Also
> this way I only have to do them one at a time.
>
> Snow...
>
> "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> news:aIadnRxa64UabBrcRVn-pA@rogers.com...
>
>>You are making rockers?
>>Mine were $41/each and fit perfect, you are punishing yourself!
>>-Brian
>>
>>"Snow" <snowbalsantasdog@sympaticosantasdog.ca> wrote in message
>>news:GuLhd.10523$dj2.462747@news20.bellglobal.co m...
>>: Uhmmmmm "under way" lol
>>: Picking up the sheet metal sometime this week and rough cutting it to
>>size,
>>: one of the structures guys at work said he would bend it up for me. As
>>long
>>: as I get the drivers side done before the January freeze I'm ok..besides
>>: when I did my floors it was late November and lightly snowing ..lol
>>:
>>: Snow...
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Re: PING - Snow
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
:
: I figure after 4 years of driving with just the bikini and soft tops
: it's time to have a comfy winter with the hard top and hard doors on
: seeing as I have the things collecting dust in the garage.
:
I don't blame you!
-Brian
#29
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Re: PING - Snow
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
:
: I figure after 4 years of driving with just the bikini and soft tops
: it's time to have a comfy winter with the hard top and hard doors on
: seeing as I have the things collecting dust in the garage.
:
I don't blame you!
-Brian
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Re: PING - Snow
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:2ush02F2divguU1@uni-berlin.de...
: Hi,
:
: I say box steel. Why invest time and money in sheet metal that will get
: shredded by rocks or rotted by salt? I replaced mine with 2x6x3/16 box
: and couldn't be happier with the result:
:
Looks good Steve, I've seen several DIY solid rockers and that is bar far
the cleanest looking! When my rockers rot out again (and they will) or start
getting beat up, I will be doing the same. I have a few projects planned
ahead of that however.
-Brian