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Mike Romain 05-03-2004 08:31 AM

Re: Ping revisited
 
I would highly recommend you get an automotive stethoscope and track
down the loose part before your engine explodes.

Maybe a bearing cap came loose or one bearing isn't the right size or a
lifter is bad...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

KurtS wrote:
>
> Hey all,
> 85 CJ7/258/Carter BBD/recent rebuild/computer back in the loop for now
>
> I've finally got some time to deal with the mild ping my engine has (running
> any Octane rating). Here's the story: I recently had the engine rebuilt. It
> pings on mild acceleration only. If I put my foot into it, the ping stops.
> Correct me if I'm wrong but that indicates a lean condition at cruising
> throttle, right? I'm 99% certain there are no vac leaks - replaced all vac
> stuff a year ago. I've replaced the distributor because the shop said the
> weights were worn out on my old one and they weren't keeping the timing from
> going off the dial. I also replaced the EGR -- definitely working as
> expected. The shop told me that since it still pings on mild acceleration
> after replacing the distrib and EGR, that I need to richen the mix a little
> (not the idle mix obviously). Looking at the gizmos under the vent cover
> plate on the carb, what do/can I adjust? TIA for any help.
>
> Kurt


Mike Romain 05-03-2004 08:31 AM

Re: Ping revisited
 
I would highly recommend you get an automotive stethoscope and track
down the loose part before your engine explodes.

Maybe a bearing cap came loose or one bearing isn't the right size or a
lifter is bad...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

KurtS wrote:
>
> Hey all,
> 85 CJ7/258/Carter BBD/recent rebuild/computer back in the loop for now
>
> I've finally got some time to deal with the mild ping my engine has (running
> any Octane rating). Here's the story: I recently had the engine rebuilt. It
> pings on mild acceleration only. If I put my foot into it, the ping stops.
> Correct me if I'm wrong but that indicates a lean condition at cruising
> throttle, right? I'm 99% certain there are no vac leaks - replaced all vac
> stuff a year ago. I've replaced the distributor because the shop said the
> weights were worn out on my old one and they weren't keeping the timing from
> going off the dial. I also replaced the EGR -- definitely working as
> expected. The shop told me that since it still pings on mild acceleration
> after replacing the distrib and EGR, that I need to richen the mix a little
> (not the idle mix obviously). Looking at the gizmos under the vent cover
> plate on the carb, what do/can I adjust? TIA for any help.
>
> Kurt


Mike Romain 05-03-2004 08:31 AM

Re: Ping revisited
 
I would highly recommend you get an automotive stethoscope and track
down the loose part before your engine explodes.

Maybe a bearing cap came loose or one bearing isn't the right size or a
lifter is bad...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

KurtS wrote:
>
> Hey all,
> 85 CJ7/258/Carter BBD/recent rebuild/computer back in the loop for now
>
> I've finally got some time to deal with the mild ping my engine has (running
> any Octane rating). Here's the story: I recently had the engine rebuilt. It
> pings on mild acceleration only. If I put my foot into it, the ping stops.
> Correct me if I'm wrong but that indicates a lean condition at cruising
> throttle, right? I'm 99% certain there are no vac leaks - replaced all vac
> stuff a year ago. I've replaced the distributor because the shop said the
> weights were worn out on my old one and they weren't keeping the timing from
> going off the dial. I also replaced the EGR -- definitely working as
> expected. The shop told me that since it still pings on mild acceleration
> after replacing the distrib and EGR, that I need to richen the mix a little
> (not the idle mix obviously). Looking at the gizmos under the vent cover
> plate on the carb, what do/can I adjust? TIA for any help.
>
> Kurt


KurtS 05-03-2004 07:00 PM

Re: Ping revisited
 
Heh. OK OK. I'll pull out the stethoscope. I don't want to think Mike is
right but history has shown again again that he is rarely wrong :-)

> From: Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> Organization: Bell Sympatico
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
> Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 08:31:51 -0400
> Subject: Re: Ping revisited
>
> I would highly recommend you get an automotive stethoscope and track
> down the loose part before your engine explodes.
>
> Maybe a bearing cap came loose or one bearing isn't the right size or a
> lifter is bad...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> KurtS wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>> 85 CJ7/258/Carter BBD/recent rebuild/computer back in the loop for now
>>
>> I've finally got some time to deal with the mild ping my engine has (running
>> any Octane rating). Here's the story: I recently had the engine rebuilt. It
>> pings on mild acceleration only. If I put my foot into it, the ping stops.
>> Correct me if I'm wrong but that indicates a lean condition at cruising
>> throttle, right? I'm 99% certain there are no vac leaks - replaced all vac
>> stuff a year ago. I've replaced the distributor because the shop said the
>> weights were worn out on my old one and they weren't keeping the timing from
>> going off the dial. I also replaced the EGR -- definitely working as
>> expected. The shop told me that since it still pings on mild acceleration
>> after replacing the distrib and EGR, that I need to richen the mix a little
>> (not the idle mix obviously). Looking at the gizmos under the vent cover
>> plate on the carb, what do/can I adjust? TIA for any help.
>>
>> Kurt



KurtS 05-03-2004 07:00 PM

Re: Ping revisited
 
Heh. OK OK. I'll pull out the stethoscope. I don't want to think Mike is
right but history has shown again again that he is rarely wrong :-)

> From: Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> Organization: Bell Sympatico
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
> Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 08:31:51 -0400
> Subject: Re: Ping revisited
>
> I would highly recommend you get an automotive stethoscope and track
> down the loose part before your engine explodes.
>
> Maybe a bearing cap came loose or one bearing isn't the right size or a
> lifter is bad...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> KurtS wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>> 85 CJ7/258/Carter BBD/recent rebuild/computer back in the loop for now
>>
>> I've finally got some time to deal with the mild ping my engine has (running
>> any Octane rating). Here's the story: I recently had the engine rebuilt. It
>> pings on mild acceleration only. If I put my foot into it, the ping stops.
>> Correct me if I'm wrong but that indicates a lean condition at cruising
>> throttle, right? I'm 99% certain there are no vac leaks - replaced all vac
>> stuff a year ago. I've replaced the distributor because the shop said the
>> weights were worn out on my old one and they weren't keeping the timing from
>> going off the dial. I also replaced the EGR -- definitely working as
>> expected. The shop told me that since it still pings on mild acceleration
>> after replacing the distrib and EGR, that I need to richen the mix a little
>> (not the idle mix obviously). Looking at the gizmos under the vent cover
>> plate on the carb, what do/can I adjust? TIA for any help.
>>
>> Kurt



KurtS 05-03-2004 07:00 PM

Re: Ping revisited
 
Heh. OK OK. I'll pull out the stethoscope. I don't want to think Mike is
right but history has shown again again that he is rarely wrong :-)

> From: Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> Organization: Bell Sympatico
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
> Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 08:31:51 -0400
> Subject: Re: Ping revisited
>
> I would highly recommend you get an automotive stethoscope and track
> down the loose part before your engine explodes.
>
> Maybe a bearing cap came loose or one bearing isn't the right size or a
> lifter is bad...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> KurtS wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>> 85 CJ7/258/Carter BBD/recent rebuild/computer back in the loop for now
>>
>> I've finally got some time to deal with the mild ping my engine has (running
>> any Octane rating). Here's the story: I recently had the engine rebuilt. It
>> pings on mild acceleration only. If I put my foot into it, the ping stops.
>> Correct me if I'm wrong but that indicates a lean condition at cruising
>> throttle, right? I'm 99% certain there are no vac leaks - replaced all vac
>> stuff a year ago. I've replaced the distributor because the shop said the
>> weights were worn out on my old one and they weren't keeping the timing from
>> going off the dial. I also replaced the EGR -- definitely working as
>> expected. The shop told me that since it still pings on mild acceleration
>> after replacing the distrib and EGR, that I need to richen the mix a little
>> (not the idle mix obviously). Looking at the gizmos under the vent cover
>> plate on the carb, what do/can I adjust? TIA for any help.
>>
>> Kurt



KurtS 05-03-2004 07:00 PM

Re: Ping revisited
 
Heh. OK OK. I'll pull out the stethoscope. I don't want to think Mike is
right but history has shown again again that he is rarely wrong :-)

> From: Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> Organization: Bell Sympatico
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
> Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 08:31:51 -0400
> Subject: Re: Ping revisited
>
> I would highly recommend you get an automotive stethoscope and track
> down the loose part before your engine explodes.
>
> Maybe a bearing cap came loose or one bearing isn't the right size or a
> lifter is bad...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> KurtS wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>> 85 CJ7/258/Carter BBD/recent rebuild/computer back in the loop for now
>>
>> I've finally got some time to deal with the mild ping my engine has (running
>> any Octane rating). Here's the story: I recently had the engine rebuilt. It
>> pings on mild acceleration only. If I put my foot into it, the ping stops.
>> Correct me if I'm wrong but that indicates a lean condition at cruising
>> throttle, right? I'm 99% certain there are no vac leaks - replaced all vac
>> stuff a year ago. I've replaced the distributor because the shop said the
>> weights were worn out on my old one and they weren't keeping the timing from
>> going off the dial. I also replaced the EGR -- definitely working as
>> expected. The shop told me that since it still pings on mild acceleration
>> after replacing the distrib and EGR, that I need to richen the mix a little
>> (not the idle mix obviously). Looking at the gizmos under the vent cover
>> plate on the carb, what do/can I adjust? TIA for any help.
>>
>> Kurt



RocknTJ 05-03-2004 07:48 PM

Re: Ping revisited
 

Carter's don't have replaceable/upgradable jets?
Then you back off the idle mixture.

Just a thought.

--James


"KurtS" <nospam@thanksImFull.spam> wrote in message
news:BCBAC1B6.33695%nospam@thanksImFull.spam...
> Hey all,
> 85 CJ7/258/Carter BBD/recent rebuild/computer back in the loop for now
>
> I've finally got some time to deal with the mild ping my engine has

(running
> any Octane rating). Here's the story: I recently had the engine rebuilt.

It
> pings on mild acceleration only. If I put my foot into it, the ping stops.
> Correct me if I'm wrong but that indicates a lean condition at cruising
> throttle, right? I'm 99% certain there are no vac leaks - replaced all vac
> stuff a year ago. I've replaced the distributor because the shop said the
> weights were worn out on my old one and they weren't keeping the timing

from
> going off the dial. I also replaced the EGR -- definitely working as
> expected. The shop told me that since it still pings on mild acceleration
> after replacing the distrib and EGR, that I need to richen the mix a

little
> (not the idle mix obviously). Looking at the gizmos under the vent cover
> plate on the carb, what do/can I adjust? TIA for any help.
>
> Kurt
>




RocknTJ 05-03-2004 07:48 PM

Re: Ping revisited
 

Carter's don't have replaceable/upgradable jets?
Then you back off the idle mixture.

Just a thought.

--James


"KurtS" <nospam@thanksImFull.spam> wrote in message
news:BCBAC1B6.33695%nospam@thanksImFull.spam...
> Hey all,
> 85 CJ7/258/Carter BBD/recent rebuild/computer back in the loop for now
>
> I've finally got some time to deal with the mild ping my engine has

(running
> any Octane rating). Here's the story: I recently had the engine rebuilt.

It
> pings on mild acceleration only. If I put my foot into it, the ping stops.
> Correct me if I'm wrong but that indicates a lean condition at cruising
> throttle, right? I'm 99% certain there are no vac leaks - replaced all vac
> stuff a year ago. I've replaced the distributor because the shop said the
> weights were worn out on my old one and they weren't keeping the timing

from
> going off the dial. I also replaced the EGR -- definitely working as
> expected. The shop told me that since it still pings on mild acceleration
> after replacing the distrib and EGR, that I need to richen the mix a

little
> (not the idle mix obviously). Looking at the gizmos under the vent cover
> plate on the carb, what do/can I adjust? TIA for any help.
>
> Kurt
>




RocknTJ 05-03-2004 07:48 PM

Re: Ping revisited
 

Carter's don't have replaceable/upgradable jets?
Then you back off the idle mixture.

Just a thought.

--James


"KurtS" <nospam@thanksImFull.spam> wrote in message
news:BCBAC1B6.33695%nospam@thanksImFull.spam...
> Hey all,
> 85 CJ7/258/Carter BBD/recent rebuild/computer back in the loop for now
>
> I've finally got some time to deal with the mild ping my engine has

(running
> any Octane rating). Here's the story: I recently had the engine rebuilt.

It
> pings on mild acceleration only. If I put my foot into it, the ping stops.
> Correct me if I'm wrong but that indicates a lean condition at cruising
> throttle, right? I'm 99% certain there are no vac leaks - replaced all vac
> stuff a year ago. I've replaced the distributor because the shop said the
> weights were worn out on my old one and they weren't keeping the timing

from
> going off the dial. I also replaced the EGR -- definitely working as
> expected. The shop told me that since it still pings on mild acceleration
> after replacing the distrib and EGR, that I need to richen the mix a

little
> (not the idle mix obviously). Looking at the gizmos under the vent cover
> plate on the carb, what do/can I adjust? TIA for any help.
>
> Kurt
>





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