Ping revisited
Hey all,
85 CJ7/258/Carter BBD/recent rebuild/computer back in the loop for now I've finally got some time to deal with the mild ping my engine has (running any Octane rating). Here's the story: I recently had the engine rebuilt. It pings on mild acceleration only. If I put my foot into it, the ping stops. Correct me if I'm wrong but that indicates a lean condition at cruising throttle, right? I'm 99% certain there are no vac leaks - replaced all vac stuff a year ago. I've replaced the distributor because the shop said the weights were worn out on my old one and they weren't keeping the timing from going off the dial. I also replaced the EGR -- definitely working as expected. The shop told me that since it still pings on mild acceleration after replacing the distrib and EGR, that I need to richen the mix a little (not the idle mix obviously). Looking at the gizmos under the vent cover plate on the carb, what do/can I adjust? TIA for any help. Kurt |
Re: Ping revisited
You're too far advanced, when you stick your foot in it your vacuum
advance has less vacuum therefore retards the spark to a place it can burn the gas. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ KurtS wrote: > > Hey all, > 85 CJ7/258/Carter BBD/recent rebuild/computer back in the loop for now > > I've finally got some time to deal with the mild ping my engine has (running > any Octane rating). Here's the story: I recently had the engine rebuilt. It > pings on mild acceleration only. If I put my foot into it, the ping stops. > Correct me if I'm wrong but that indicates a lean condition at cruising > throttle, right? I'm 99% certain there are no vac leaks - replaced all vac > stuff a year ago. I've replaced the distributor because the shop said the > weights were worn out on my old one and they weren't keeping the timing from > going off the dial. I also replaced the EGR -- definitely working as > expected. The shop told me that since it still pings on mild acceleration > after replacing the distrib and EGR, that I need to richen the mix a little > (not the idle mix obviously). Looking at the gizmos under the vent cover > plate on the carb, what do/can I adjust? TIA for any help. > > Kurt |
Re: Ping revisited
You're too far advanced, when you stick your foot in it your vacuum
advance has less vacuum therefore retards the spark to a place it can burn the gas. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ KurtS wrote: > > Hey all, > 85 CJ7/258/Carter BBD/recent rebuild/computer back in the loop for now > > I've finally got some time to deal with the mild ping my engine has (running > any Octane rating). Here's the story: I recently had the engine rebuilt. It > pings on mild acceleration only. If I put my foot into it, the ping stops. > Correct me if I'm wrong but that indicates a lean condition at cruising > throttle, right? I'm 99% certain there are no vac leaks - replaced all vac > stuff a year ago. I've replaced the distributor because the shop said the > weights were worn out on my old one and they weren't keeping the timing from > going off the dial. I also replaced the EGR -- definitely working as > expected. The shop told me that since it still pings on mild acceleration > after replacing the distrib and EGR, that I need to richen the mix a little > (not the idle mix obviously). Looking at the gizmos under the vent cover > plate on the carb, what do/can I adjust? TIA for any help. > > Kurt |
Re: Ping revisited
You're too far advanced, when you stick your foot in it your vacuum
advance has less vacuum therefore retards the spark to a place it can burn the gas. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ KurtS wrote: > > Hey all, > 85 CJ7/258/Carter BBD/recent rebuild/computer back in the loop for now > > I've finally got some time to deal with the mild ping my engine has (running > any Octane rating). Here's the story: I recently had the engine rebuilt. It > pings on mild acceleration only. If I put my foot into it, the ping stops. > Correct me if I'm wrong but that indicates a lean condition at cruising > throttle, right? I'm 99% certain there are no vac leaks - replaced all vac > stuff a year ago. I've replaced the distributor because the shop said the > weights were worn out on my old one and they weren't keeping the timing from > going off the dial. I also replaced the EGR -- definitely working as > expected. The shop told me that since it still pings on mild acceleration > after replacing the distrib and EGR, that I need to richen the mix a little > (not the idle mix obviously). Looking at the gizmos under the vent cover > plate on the carb, what do/can I adjust? TIA for any help. > > Kurt |
Re: Ping revisited
You're too far advanced, when you stick your foot in it your vacuum
advance has less vacuum therefore retards the spark to a place it can burn the gas. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ KurtS wrote: > > Hey all, > 85 CJ7/258/Carter BBD/recent rebuild/computer back in the loop for now > > I've finally got some time to deal with the mild ping my engine has (running > any Octane rating). Here's the story: I recently had the engine rebuilt. It > pings on mild acceleration only. If I put my foot into it, the ping stops. > Correct me if I'm wrong but that indicates a lean condition at cruising > throttle, right? I'm 99% certain there are no vac leaks - replaced all vac > stuff a year ago. I've replaced the distributor because the shop said the > weights were worn out on my old one and they weren't keeping the timing from > going off the dial. I also replaced the EGR -- definitely working as > expected. The shop told me that since it still pings on mild acceleration > after replacing the distrib and EGR, that I need to richen the mix a little > (not the idle mix obviously). Looking at the gizmos under the vent cover > plate on the carb, what do/can I adjust? TIA for any help. > > Kurt |
Re: Ping revisited
Hrm. When I back it off from 9 deg BTDC, idle falls to crap. Looks like I
have some more vac issue hunting. tnx Bill. > From: L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> > Organization: Not@Home > Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys > Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 12:31:21 -0700 > Subject: Re: Ping revisited > > You're too far advanced, when you stick your foot in it your vacuum > advance has less vacuum therefore retards the spark to a place it can > burn the gas. |
Re: Ping revisited
Hrm. When I back it off from 9 deg BTDC, idle falls to crap. Looks like I
have some more vac issue hunting. tnx Bill. > From: L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> > Organization: Not@Home > Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys > Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 12:31:21 -0700 > Subject: Re: Ping revisited > > You're too far advanced, when you stick your foot in it your vacuum > advance has less vacuum therefore retards the spark to a place it can > burn the gas. |
Re: Ping revisited
Hrm. When I back it off from 9 deg BTDC, idle falls to crap. Looks like I
have some more vac issue hunting. tnx Bill. > From: L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> > Organization: Not@Home > Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys > Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 12:31:21 -0700 > Subject: Re: Ping revisited > > You're too far advanced, when you stick your foot in it your vacuum > advance has less vacuum therefore retards the spark to a place it can > burn the gas. |
Re: Ping revisited
Hrm. When I back it off from 9 deg BTDC, idle falls to crap. Looks like I
have some more vac issue hunting. tnx Bill. > From: L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> > Organization: Not@Home > Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys > Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 12:31:21 -0700 > Subject: Re: Ping revisited > > You're too far advanced, when you stick your foot in it your vacuum > advance has less vacuum therefore retards the spark to a place it can > burn the gas. |
Re: Ping revisited
I would highly recommend you get an automotive stethoscope and track
down the loose part before your engine explodes. Maybe a bearing cap came loose or one bearing isn't the right size or a lifter is bad... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's KurtS wrote: > > Hey all, > 85 CJ7/258/Carter BBD/recent rebuild/computer back in the loop for now > > I've finally got some time to deal with the mild ping my engine has (running > any Octane rating). Here's the story: I recently had the engine rebuilt. It > pings on mild acceleration only. If I put my foot into it, the ping stops. > Correct me if I'm wrong but that indicates a lean condition at cruising > throttle, right? I'm 99% certain there are no vac leaks - replaced all vac > stuff a year ago. I've replaced the distributor because the shop said the > weights were worn out on my old one and they weren't keeping the timing from > going off the dial. I also replaced the EGR -- definitely working as > expected. The shop told me that since it still pings on mild acceleration > after replacing the distrib and EGR, that I need to richen the mix a little > (not the idle mix obviously). Looking at the gizmos under the vent cover > plate on the carb, what do/can I adjust? TIA for any help. > > Kurt |
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