HA HA!!!! The maddness never stops. First a Jeep and now geocaching?? I've
been caching for about 4 years now. I've been using a Magellan 315 all this
time (after almost dropping my Palm in a river). It's got very few
features, but works for my family's needs. My father in law bought an eTrex
and it's not very good.

If I can suggest anything, get one with an antena. In my experience,
anything with an "internal" antenna, won't work when you get in the back
woods. my 315 actually has an antenna connector, that I could use an
antenna mounted to my vehicle if I needed to.

Chad
04 LJ 3" BDS 33's
02 TJ RIP
99 WJ RIP
95 YJ RIP



"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:eectf.31486$wq.28158@bignews7.bellsouth.net.. .
> We have JUST discovered geocaching. I was curious what it was from your
> posts and decided to look it up.
> After spending a ton of time on the geocaching site we learned just enoug
> to
> be dangerous. ;ŹD
>
> We found our first one the next day and decided it would be a LOT of fun
> to
> play with the Jeep and treasure hunt at the same time.
> Ok, *I* decided. hubby is willing to go, but lacks my enthusiasm :-/
> He's a real good sport though.
>
> I was reading your post about GPS units but noted that you had not
> mentioned
> model numbers. We have this sheet of specs printed out and of course it is
> easy to see that the more you pay means the more you will get but for
> geocaching, which do YOU use and why? If you could get a different model,
> which would it be?
>
> We have a Garmin StreetPilot III now, but that obviously isn't going to
> work
> for geocaching.
>
> Thanks in advance for any info you have to offer!
>
> Kate
>
>

 

HA HA!!!! The maddness never stops. First a Jeep and now geocaching?? I've
been caching for about 4 years now. I've been using a Magellan 315 all this
time (after almost dropping my Palm in a river). It's got very few
features, but works for my family's needs. My father in law bought an eTrex
and it's not very good.

If I can suggest anything, get one with an antena. In my experience,
anything with an "internal" antenna, won't work when you get in the back
woods. my 315 actually has an antenna connector, that I could use an
antenna mounted to my vehicle if I needed to.

Chad
04 LJ 3" BDS 33's
02 TJ RIP
99 WJ RIP
95 YJ RIP



"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:eectf.31486$wq.28158@bignews7.bellsouth.net.. .
> We have JUST discovered geocaching. I was curious what it was from your
> posts and decided to look it up.
> After spending a ton of time on the geocaching site we learned just enoug
> to
> be dangerous. ;ŹD
>
> We found our first one the next day and decided it would be a LOT of fun
> to
> play with the Jeep and treasure hunt at the same time.
> Ok, *I* decided. hubby is willing to go, but lacks my enthusiasm :-/
> He's a real good sport though.
>
> I was reading your post about GPS units but noted that you had not
> mentioned
> model numbers. We have this sheet of specs printed out and of course it is
> easy to see that the more you pay means the more you will get but for
> geocaching, which do YOU use and why? If you could get a different model,
> which would it be?
>
> We have a Garmin StreetPilot III now, but that obviously isn't going to
> work
> for geocaching.
>
> Thanks in advance for any info you have to offer!
>
> Kate
>
>

 

HA HA!!!! The maddness never stops. First a Jeep and now geocaching?? I've
been caching for about 4 years now. I've been using a Magellan 315 all this
time (after almost dropping my Palm in a river). It's got very few
features, but works for my family's needs. My father in law bought an eTrex
and it's not very good.

If I can suggest anything, get one with an antena. In my experience,
anything with an "internal" antenna, won't work when you get in the back
woods. my 315 actually has an antenna connector, that I could use an
antenna mounted to my vehicle if I needed to.

Chad
04 LJ 3" BDS 33's
02 TJ RIP
99 WJ RIP
95 YJ RIP



"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:eectf.31486$wq.28158@bignews7.bellsouth.net.. .
> We have JUST discovered geocaching. I was curious what it was from your
> posts and decided to look it up.
> After spending a ton of time on the geocaching site we learned just enoug
> to
> be dangerous. ;ŹD
>
> We found our first one the next day and decided it would be a LOT of fun
> to
> play with the Jeep and treasure hunt at the same time.
> Ok, *I* decided. hubby is willing to go, but lacks my enthusiasm :-/
> He's a real good sport though.
>
> I was reading your post about GPS units but noted that you had not
> mentioned
> model numbers. We have this sheet of specs printed out and of course it is
> easy to see that the more you pay means the more you will get but for
> geocaching, which do YOU use and why? If you could get a different model,
> which would it be?
>
> We have a Garmin StreetPilot III now, but that obviously isn't going to
> work
> for geocaching.
>
> Thanks in advance for any info you have to offer!
>
> Kate
>
>

 

You are SO RIGHT Chad
SO right!

We have just started and have a lot to learn. I got pretty frustrated today
because It was off by about 15-20 feet
on three different caches. All out in the open. I am likely to look at
something with an antenna and take this one back.

I don't know about the Garmin, have none available locally BUT we have a
Garmin and it works great, except for the occasional shortcut through
someone's prperty instead of a road.

We are headed out to places where they may HAVE something other than a stick
with a compass strapped to it. Maybe we will find one out there somewhere.

KJK


"Chad Fraker" <sylvanis@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Tbluf.16547$0e.2550@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
: HA HA!!!! The maddness never stops. First a Jeep and now geocaching??
I've
: been caching for about 4 years now. I've been using a Magellan 315 all
this
: time (after almost dropping my Palm in a river). It's got very few
: features, but works for my family's needs. My father in law bought an
eTrex
: and it's not very good.
:
: If I can suggest anything, get one with an antena. In my experience,
: anything with an "internal" antenna, won't work when you get in the back
: woods. my 315 actually has an antenna connector, that I could use an
: antenna mounted to my vehicle if I needed to.
:
: Chad
: 04 LJ 3" BDS 33's
: 02 TJ RIP
: 99 WJ RIP
: 95 YJ RIP
:
:
:
: "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
: news:eectf.31486$wq.28158@bignews7.bellsouth.net.. .
: > We have JUST discovered geocaching. I was curious what it was from your
: > posts and decided to look it up.
: > After spending a ton of time on the geocaching site we learned just
enoug
: > to
: > be dangerous. ;ŹD
: >
: > We found our first one the next day and decided it would be a LOT of fun
: > to
: > play with the Jeep and treasure hunt at the same time.
: > Ok, *I* decided. hubby is willing to go, but lacks my enthusiasm :-/
: > He's a real good sport though.
: >
: > I was reading your post about GPS units but noted that you had not
: > mentioned
: > model numbers. We have this sheet of specs printed out and of course it
is
: > easy to see that the more you pay means the more you will get but for
: > geocaching, which do YOU use and why? If you could get a different
model,
: > which would it be?
: >
: > We have a Garmin StreetPilot III now, but that obviously isn't going to
: > work
: > for geocaching.
: >
: > Thanks in advance for any info you have to offer!
: >
: > Kate
: >
: >
:
:

 

You are SO RIGHT Chad
SO right!

We have just started and have a lot to learn. I got pretty frustrated today
because It was off by about 15-20 feet
on three different caches. All out in the open. I am likely to look at
something with an antenna and take this one back.

I don't know about the Garmin, have none available locally BUT we have a
Garmin and it works great, except for the occasional shortcut through
someone's prperty instead of a road.

We are headed out to places where they may HAVE something other than a stick
with a compass strapped to it. Maybe we will find one out there somewhere.

KJK


"Chad Fraker" <sylvanis@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Tbluf.16547$0e.2550@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
: HA HA!!!! The maddness never stops. First a Jeep and now geocaching??
I've
: been caching for about 4 years now. I've been using a Magellan 315 all
this
: time (after almost dropping my Palm in a river). It's got very few
: features, but works for my family's needs. My father in law bought an
eTrex
: and it's not very good.
:
: If I can suggest anything, get one with an antena. In my experience,
: anything with an "internal" antenna, won't work when you get in the back
: woods. my 315 actually has an antenna connector, that I could use an
: antenna mounted to my vehicle if I needed to.
:
: Chad
: 04 LJ 3" BDS 33's
: 02 TJ RIP
: 99 WJ RIP
: 95 YJ RIP
:
:
:
: "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
: news:eectf.31486$wq.28158@bignews7.bellsouth.net.. .
: > We have JUST discovered geocaching. I was curious what it was from your
: > posts and decided to look it up.
: > After spending a ton of time on the geocaching site we learned just
enoug
: > to
: > be dangerous. ;ŹD
: >
: > We found our first one the next day and decided it would be a LOT of fun
: > to
: > play with the Jeep and treasure hunt at the same time.
: > Ok, *I* decided. hubby is willing to go, but lacks my enthusiasm :-/
: > He's a real good sport though.
: >
: > I was reading your post about GPS units but noted that you had not
: > mentioned
: > model numbers. We have this sheet of specs printed out and of course it
is
: > easy to see that the more you pay means the more you will get but for
: > geocaching, which do YOU use and why? If you could get a different
model,
: > which would it be?
: >
: > We have a Garmin StreetPilot III now, but that obviously isn't going to
: > work
: > for geocaching.
: >
: > Thanks in advance for any info you have to offer!
: >
: > Kate
: >
: >
:
:

 

You are SO RIGHT Chad
SO right!

We have just started and have a lot to learn. I got pretty frustrated today
because It was off by about 15-20 feet
on three different caches. All out in the open. I am likely to look at
something with an antenna and take this one back.

I don't know about the Garmin, have none available locally BUT we have a
Garmin and it works great, except for the occasional shortcut through
someone's prperty instead of a road.

We are headed out to places where they may HAVE something other than a stick
with a compass strapped to it. Maybe we will find one out there somewhere.

KJK


"Chad Fraker" <sylvanis@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Tbluf.16547$0e.2550@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
: HA HA!!!! The maddness never stops. First a Jeep and now geocaching??
I've
: been caching for about 4 years now. I've been using a Magellan 315 all
this
: time (after almost dropping my Palm in a river). It's got very few
: features, but works for my family's needs. My father in law bought an
eTrex
: and it's not very good.
:
: If I can suggest anything, get one with an antena. In my experience,
: anything with an "internal" antenna, won't work when you get in the back
: woods. my 315 actually has an antenna connector, that I could use an
: antenna mounted to my vehicle if I needed to.
:
: Chad
: 04 LJ 3" BDS 33's
: 02 TJ RIP
: 99 WJ RIP
: 95 YJ RIP
:
:
:
: "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
: news:eectf.31486$wq.28158@bignews7.bellsouth.net.. .
: > We have JUST discovered geocaching. I was curious what it was from your
: > posts and decided to look it up.
: > After spending a ton of time on the geocaching site we learned just
enoug
: > to
: > be dangerous. ;ŹD
: >
: > We found our first one the next day and decided it would be a LOT of fun
: > to
: > play with the Jeep and treasure hunt at the same time.
: > Ok, *I* decided. hubby is willing to go, but lacks my enthusiasm :-/
: > He's a real good sport though.
: >
: > I was reading your post about GPS units but noted that you had not
: > mentioned
: > model numbers. We have this sheet of specs printed out and of course it
is
: > easy to see that the more you pay means the more you will get but for
: > geocaching, which do YOU use and why? If you could get a different
model,
: > which would it be?
: >
: > We have a Garmin StreetPilot III now, but that obviously isn't going to
: > work
: > for geocaching.
: >
: > Thanks in advance for any info you have to offer!
: >
: > Kate
: >
: >
:
:

 

That is totall normal. When it says you are right on, that means anywhere in a 5-50
foot radius. That is due to the differences in GPS's, where they stood when they
took their coords, and stuff like that. My GPS will often give me an accuracy factor
- good within 10 feet, good within 75 feet, etc. I think this is determined in some
part by not only how strong the signal is, but the tree cover, etc based on the GPS
talking to the sattalites.



On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:44:23 -0600, "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote:

>>You are SO RIGHT Chad
>>SO right!
>>
>>We have just started and have a lot to learn. I got pretty frustrated today
>>because It was off by about 15-20 feet
>>on three different caches. All out in the open. I am likely to look at
>>something with an antenna and take this one back.
>>
>>I don't know about the Garmin, have none available locally BUT we have a
>>Garmin and it works great, except for the occasional shortcut through
>>someone's prperty instead of a road.
>>
>>We are headed out to places where they may HAVE something other than a stick
>>with a compass strapped to it. Maybe we will find one out there somewhere.
>>
>>KJK
>>
>>
>>"Chad Fraker" <sylvanis@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:Tbluf.16547$0e.2550@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>: HA HA!!!! The maddness never stops. First a Jeep and now geocaching??
>>I've
>>: been caching for about 4 years now. I've been using a Magellan 315 all
>>this
>>: time (after almost dropping my Palm in a river). It's got very few
>>: features, but works for my family's needs. My father in law bought an
>>eTrex
>>: and it's not very good.
>>:
>>: If I can suggest anything, get one with an antena. In my experience,
>>: anything with an "internal" antenna, won't work when you get in the back
>>: woods. my 315 actually has an antenna connector, that I could use an
>>: antenna mounted to my vehicle if I needed to.
>>:
>>: Chad
>>: 04 LJ 3" BDS 33's
>>: 02 TJ RIP
>>: 99 WJ RIP
>>: 95 YJ RIP
>>:
>>:
>>:
>>: "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
>>: news:eectf.31486$wq.28158@bignews7.bellsouth.net.. .
>>: > We have JUST discovered geocaching. I was curious what it was from your
>>: > posts and decided to look it up.
>>: > After spending a ton of time on the geocaching site we learned just
>>enoug
>>: > to
>>: > be dangerous. ;ŹD
>>: >
>>: > We found our first one the next day and decided it would be a LOT of fun
>>: > to
>>: > play with the Jeep and treasure hunt at the same time.
>>: > Ok, *I* decided. hubby is willing to go, but lacks my enthusiasm :-/
>>: > He's a real good sport though.
>>: >
>>: > I was reading your post about GPS units but noted that you had not
>>: > mentioned
>>: > model numbers. We have this sheet of specs printed out and of course it
>>is
>>: > easy to see that the more you pay means the more you will get but for
>>: > geocaching, which do YOU use and why? If you could get a different
>>model,
>>: > which would it be?
>>: >
>>: > We have a Garmin StreetPilot III now, but that obviously isn't going to
>>: > work
>>: > for geocaching.
>>: >
>>: > Thanks in advance for any info you have to offer!
>>: >
>>: > Kate
>>: >
>>: >
>>:
>>:
>>

 

That is totall normal. When it says you are right on, that means anywhere in a 5-50
foot radius. That is due to the differences in GPS's, where they stood when they
took their coords, and stuff like that. My GPS will often give me an accuracy factor
- good within 10 feet, good within 75 feet, etc. I think this is determined in some
part by not only how strong the signal is, but the tree cover, etc based on the GPS
talking to the sattalites.



On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:44:23 -0600, "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote:

>>You are SO RIGHT Chad
>>SO right!
>>
>>We have just started and have a lot to learn. I got pretty frustrated today
>>because It was off by about 15-20 feet
>>on three different caches. All out in the open. I am likely to look at
>>something with an antenna and take this one back.
>>
>>I don't know about the Garmin, have none available locally BUT we have a
>>Garmin and it works great, except for the occasional shortcut through
>>someone's prperty instead of a road.
>>
>>We are headed out to places where they may HAVE something other than a stick
>>with a compass strapped to it. Maybe we will find one out there somewhere.
>>
>>KJK
>>
>>
>>"Chad Fraker" <sylvanis@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:Tbluf.16547$0e.2550@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>: HA HA!!!! The maddness never stops. First a Jeep and now geocaching??
>>I've
>>: been caching for about 4 years now. I've been using a Magellan 315 all
>>this
>>: time (after almost dropping my Palm in a river). It's got very few
>>: features, but works for my family's needs. My father in law bought an
>>eTrex
>>: and it's not very good.
>>:
>>: If I can suggest anything, get one with an antena. In my experience,
>>: anything with an "internal" antenna, won't work when you get in the back
>>: woods. my 315 actually has an antenna connector, that I could use an
>>: antenna mounted to my vehicle if I needed to.
>>:
>>: Chad
>>: 04 LJ 3" BDS 33's
>>: 02 TJ RIP
>>: 99 WJ RIP
>>: 95 YJ RIP
>>:
>>:
>>:
>>: "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
>>: news:eectf.31486$wq.28158@bignews7.bellsouth.net.. .
>>: > We have JUST discovered geocaching. I was curious what it was from your
>>: > posts and decided to look it up.
>>: > After spending a ton of time on the geocaching site we learned just
>>enoug
>>: > to
>>: > be dangerous. ;ŹD
>>: >
>>: > We found our first one the next day and decided it would be a LOT of fun
>>: > to
>>: > play with the Jeep and treasure hunt at the same time.
>>: > Ok, *I* decided. hubby is willing to go, but lacks my enthusiasm :-/
>>: > He's a real good sport though.
>>: >
>>: > I was reading your post about GPS units but noted that you had not
>>: > mentioned
>>: > model numbers. We have this sheet of specs printed out and of course it
>>is
>>: > easy to see that the more you pay means the more you will get but for
>>: > geocaching, which do YOU use and why? If you could get a different
>>model,
>>: > which would it be?
>>: >
>>: > We have a Garmin StreetPilot III now, but that obviously isn't going to
>>: > work
>>: > for geocaching.
>>: >
>>: > Thanks in advance for any info you have to offer!
>>: >
>>: > Kate
>>: >
>>: >
>>:
>>:
>>

 

That is totall normal. When it says you are right on, that means anywhere in a 5-50
foot radius. That is due to the differences in GPS's, where they stood when they
took their coords, and stuff like that. My GPS will often give me an accuracy factor
- good within 10 feet, good within 75 feet, etc. I think this is determined in some
part by not only how strong the signal is, but the tree cover, etc based on the GPS
talking to the sattalites.



On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:44:23 -0600, "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote:

>>You are SO RIGHT Chad
>>SO right!
>>
>>We have just started and have a lot to learn. I got pretty frustrated today
>>because It was off by about 15-20 feet
>>on three different caches. All out in the open. I am likely to look at
>>something with an antenna and take this one back.
>>
>>I don't know about the Garmin, have none available locally BUT we have a
>>Garmin and it works great, except for the occasional shortcut through
>>someone's prperty instead of a road.
>>
>>We are headed out to places where they may HAVE something other than a stick
>>with a compass strapped to it. Maybe we will find one out there somewhere.
>>
>>KJK
>>
>>
>>"Chad Fraker" <sylvanis@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:Tbluf.16547$0e.2550@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>: HA HA!!!! The maddness never stops. First a Jeep and now geocaching??
>>I've
>>: been caching for about 4 years now. I've been using a Magellan 315 all
>>this
>>: time (after almost dropping my Palm in a river). It's got very few
>>: features, but works for my family's needs. My father in law bought an
>>eTrex
>>: and it's not very good.
>>:
>>: If I can suggest anything, get one with an antena. In my experience,
>>: anything with an "internal" antenna, won't work when you get in the back
>>: woods. my 315 actually has an antenna connector, that I could use an
>>: antenna mounted to my vehicle if I needed to.
>>:
>>: Chad
>>: 04 LJ 3" BDS 33's
>>: 02 TJ RIP
>>: 99 WJ RIP
>>: 95 YJ RIP
>>:
>>:
>>:
>>: "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
>>: news:eectf.31486$wq.28158@bignews7.bellsouth.net.. .
>>: > We have JUST discovered geocaching. I was curious what it was from your
>>: > posts and decided to look it up.
>>: > After spending a ton of time on the geocaching site we learned just
>>enoug
>>: > to
>>: > be dangerous. ;ŹD
>>: >
>>: > We found our first one the next day and decided it would be a LOT of fun
>>: > to
>>: > play with the Jeep and treasure hunt at the same time.
>>: > Ok, *I* decided. hubby is willing to go, but lacks my enthusiasm :-/
>>: > He's a real good sport though.
>>: >
>>: > I was reading your post about GPS units but noted that you had not
>>: > mentioned
>>: > model numbers. We have this sheet of specs printed out and of course it
>>is
>>: > easy to see that the more you pay means the more you will get but for
>>: > geocaching, which do YOU use and why? If you could get a different
>>model,
>>: > which would it be?
>>: >
>>: > We have a Garmin StreetPilot III now, but that obviously isn't going to
>>: > work
>>: > for geocaching.
>>: >
>>: > Thanks in advance for any info you have to offer!
>>: >
>>: > Kate
>>: >
>>: >
>>:
>>:
>>

 

That's about right. if it says you're dead on, expect up to about 50 ft.
When i'm out on my own, I get to where my GPS says as close to 0 as possible
and set my bag down. I then visually set a border about 10 - 15 yards from
the center and proceed to search.

You might want to check this out:
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/gps.htm

HYFTH

"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:Kvluf.100499$aS5.49973@bignews4.bellsouth.net ...
> You are SO RIGHT Chad
> SO right!
>
> We have just started and have a lot to learn. I got pretty frustrated
> today
> because It was off by about 15-20 feet
> on three different caches. All out in the open. I am likely to look at
> something with an antenna and take this one back.
>
> I don't know about the Garmin, have none available locally BUT we have a
> Garmin and it works great, except for the occasional shortcut through
> someone's prperty instead of a road.
>
> We are headed out to places where they may HAVE something other than a
> stick
> with a compass strapped to it. Maybe we will find one out there somewhere.
>
> KJK
>
>
> "Chad Fraker" <sylvanis@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:Tbluf.16547$0e.2550@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> : HA HA!!!! The maddness never stops. First a Jeep and now geocaching??
> I've
> : been caching for about 4 years now. I've been using a Magellan 315 all
> this
> : time (after almost dropping my Palm in a river). It's got very few
> : features, but works for my family's needs. My father in law bought an
> eTrex
> : and it's not very good.
> :
> : If I can suggest anything, get one with an antena. In my experience,
> : anything with an "internal" antenna, won't work when you get in the back
> : woods. my 315 actually has an antenna connector, that I could use an
> : antenna mounted to my vehicle if I needed to.
> :
> : Chad
> : 04 LJ 3" BDS 33's
> : 02 TJ RIP
> : 99 WJ RIP
> : 95 YJ RIP
> :
> :
> :
> : "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
> : news:eectf.31486$wq.28158@bignews7.bellsouth.net.. .
> : > We have JUST discovered geocaching. I was curious what it was from
> your
> : > posts and decided to look it up.
> : > After spending a ton of time on the geocaching site we learned just
> enoug
> : > to
> : > be dangerous. ;ŹD
> : >
> : > We found our first one the next day and decided it would be a LOT of
> fun
> : > to
> : > play with the Jeep and treasure hunt at the same time.
> : > Ok, *I* decided. hubby is willing to go, but lacks my enthusiasm :-/
> : > He's a real good sport though.
> : >
> : > I was reading your post about GPS units but noted that you had not
> : > mentioned
> : > model numbers. We have this sheet of specs printed out and of course
> it
> is
> : > easy to see that the more you pay means the more you will get but for
> : > geocaching, which do YOU use and why? If you could get a different
> model,
> : > which would it be?
> : >
> : > We have a Garmin StreetPilot III now, but that obviously isn't going
> to
> : > work
> : > for geocaching.
> : >
> : > Thanks in advance for any info you have to offer!
> : >
> : > Kate
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
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