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John 10-25-2007 06:45 PM

Pine needles in defroster duct
 
Greetings All,

So I turned on the defroster in my '98 TJ for the first time in months
today, and the smell of burning pine needles immediately followed by
billowing smoke poured out...

I popped off the wipers and vent cover and stuck my shop-vac hose down
into the air intake and vacuumed out *tons* of junk. I then re-ran the
defroster for a while, and other than a light residual burning smell, no
more fire. Good. :)

I'm looking for opinions on whether I should try to tear right into it
and disassemble the entire system, or is this a *major* PITA? I've
never done it before, so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

-John

XS11E 10-25-2007 10:10 PM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
John <john@hytronix.com> wrote:

> I'm looking for opinions on whether I should try to tear right
> into it and disassemble the entire system, or is this a *major*
> PITA?


Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson down there with the AC running to
kill the smell, it should be OK.



--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project:
http://improve-usenet.org

XS11E 10-25-2007 10:10 PM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
John <john@hytronix.com> wrote:

> I'm looking for opinions on whether I should try to tear right
> into it and disassemble the entire system, or is this a *major*
> PITA?


Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson down there with the AC running to
kill the smell, it should be OK.



--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project:
http://improve-usenet.org

XS11E 10-25-2007 10:10 PM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
John <john@hytronix.com> wrote:

> I'm looking for opinions on whether I should try to tear right
> into it and disassemble the entire system, or is this a *major*
> PITA?


Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson down there with the AC running to
kill the smell, it should be OK.



--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project:
http://improve-usenet.org

XS11E 10-25-2007 11:31 PM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:

> Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson


I bet I meant Lysol......

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http://improve-usenet.org

XS11E 10-25-2007 11:31 PM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:

> Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson


I bet I meant Lysol......

--
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http://improve-usenet.org

XS11E 10-25-2007 11:31 PM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:

> Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson


I bet I meant Lysol......

--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project:
http://improve-usenet.org

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 10-26-2007 12:01 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
I'm sure that ------ from: 24.80.200.127
s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net, Vancouver will take your bet.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"XS11E" <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99D4D0C6A17B4xs11emailinatorcom@69.28.173. 184...
>
> I bet I meant Lysol......
>
> --
> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project:
> http://improve-usenet.org




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 10-26-2007 12:01 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
I'm sure that ------ from: 24.80.200.127
s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net, Vancouver will take your bet.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"XS11E" <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99D4D0C6A17B4xs11emailinatorcom@69.28.173. 184...
>
> I bet I meant Lysol......
>
> --
> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project:
> http://improve-usenet.org




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 10-26-2007 12:01 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
I'm sure that ------ from: 24.80.200.127
s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net, Vancouver will take your bet.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"XS11E" <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99D4D0C6A17B4xs11emailinatorcom@69.28.173. 184...
>
> I bet I meant Lysol......
>
> --
> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project:
> http://improve-usenet.org




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97tjMike 10-26-2007 12:03 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
On Oct 25, 10:10 pm, XS11E <xs...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> John <j...@hytronix.com> wrote:
> > I'm looking for opinions on whether I should try to tear right
> > into it and disassemble the entire system, or is this a *major*
> > PITA?

>
> Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson down there with the AC running to
> kill the smell, it should be OK.
>
> --
> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project:http://improve-usenet.org


what's wrong with the smell? It'll be just like a pine-scented air
freshner lol.


97tjMike 10-26-2007 12:03 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
On Oct 25, 10:10 pm, XS11E <xs...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> John <j...@hytronix.com> wrote:
> > I'm looking for opinions on whether I should try to tear right
> > into it and disassemble the entire system, or is this a *major*
> > PITA?

>
> Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson down there with the AC running to
> kill the smell, it should be OK.
>
> --
> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project:http://improve-usenet.org


what's wrong with the smell? It'll be just like a pine-scented air
freshner lol.


97tjMike 10-26-2007 12:03 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
On Oct 25, 10:10 pm, XS11E <xs...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> John <j...@hytronix.com> wrote:
> > I'm looking for opinions on whether I should try to tear right
> > into it and disassemble the entire system, or is this a *major*
> > PITA?

>
> Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson down there with the AC running to
> kill the smell, it should be OK.
>
> --
> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project:http://improve-usenet.org


what's wrong with the smell? It'll be just like a pine-scented air
freshner lol.


97tjMike 10-26-2007 12:05 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
On Oct 25, 6:45 pm, John <j...@hytronix.com> wrote:
> Greetings All,
>
> So I turned on the defroster in my '98 TJ for the first time in months
> today, and the smell of burning pine needles immediately followed by
> billowing smoke poured out...
>
> I popped off the wipers and vent cover and stuck my shop-vac hose down
> into the air intake and vacuumed out *tons* of junk. I then re-ran the
> defroster for a while, and other than a light residual burning smell, no
> more fire. Good. :)
>
> I'm looking for opinions on whether I should try to tear right into it
> and disassemble the entire system, or is this a *major* PITA? I've
> never done it before, so any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -John


o and by the way, I've disassembled a HVAC unit in an XJ, and it's not
easy. You have to remove the whole dashboard. So I'd try everything
else before I went for that approach.


97tjMike 10-26-2007 12:05 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
On Oct 25, 6:45 pm, John <j...@hytronix.com> wrote:
> Greetings All,
>
> So I turned on the defroster in my '98 TJ for the first time in months
> today, and the smell of burning pine needles immediately followed by
> billowing smoke poured out...
>
> I popped off the wipers and vent cover and stuck my shop-vac hose down
> into the air intake and vacuumed out *tons* of junk. I then re-ran the
> defroster for a while, and other than a light residual burning smell, no
> more fire. Good. :)
>
> I'm looking for opinions on whether I should try to tear right into it
> and disassemble the entire system, or is this a *major* PITA? I've
> never done it before, so any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -John


o and by the way, I've disassembled a HVAC unit in an XJ, and it's not
easy. You have to remove the whole dashboard. So I'd try everything
else before I went for that approach.


97tjMike 10-26-2007 12:05 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
On Oct 25, 6:45 pm, John <j...@hytronix.com> wrote:
> Greetings All,
>
> So I turned on the defroster in my '98 TJ for the first time in months
> today, and the smell of burning pine needles immediately followed by
> billowing smoke poured out...
>
> I popped off the wipers and vent cover and stuck my shop-vac hose down
> into the air intake and vacuumed out *tons* of junk. I then re-ran the
> defroster for a while, and other than a light residual burning smell, no
> more fire. Good. :)
>
> I'm looking for opinions on whether I should try to tear right into it
> and disassemble the entire system, or is this a *major* PITA? I've
> never done it before, so any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -John


o and by the way, I've disassembled a HVAC unit in an XJ, and it's not
easy. You have to remove the whole dashboard. So I'd try everything
else before I went for that approach.


=?iso-8859-1?q?Pink_Freud=A9=AE?= 10-26-2007 12:19 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 

My, you are getting desperate for come-backs.

Of course, you have almost no vocabulary to draw from, eh Illiteratus?

--
"I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups."

-- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2)
-- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer


=?iso-8859-1?q?Pink_Freud=A9=AE?= 10-26-2007 12:19 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 

My, you are getting desperate for come-backs.

Of course, you have almost no vocabulary to draw from, eh Illiteratus?

--
"I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups."

-- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2)
-- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer


=?iso-8859-1?q?Pink_Freud=A9=AE?= 10-26-2007 12:19 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 

My, you are getting desperate for come-backs.

Of course, you have almost no vocabulary to draw from, eh Illiteratus?

--
"I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups."

-- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2)
-- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 10-26-2007 12:24 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
Did you remove the steering wheel and pedals?
http://www.----------.com/jeepDashRemoved.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"97tjMike" <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193371554.255940.287180@v3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>
> o and by the way, I've disassembled a HVAC unit in an XJ, and it's not
> easy. You have to remove the whole dashboard. So I'd try everything
> else before I went for that approach.
>




L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 10-26-2007 12:24 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
Did you remove the steering wheel and pedals?
http://www.----------.com/jeepDashRemoved.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"97tjMike" <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193371554.255940.287180@v3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>
> o and by the way, I've disassembled a HVAC unit in an XJ, and it's not
> easy. You have to remove the whole dashboard. So I'd try everything
> else before I went for that approach.
>




L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 10-26-2007 12:24 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
Did you remove the steering wheel and pedals?
http://www.----------.com/jeepDashRemoved.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"97tjMike" <MichaelJunior@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193371554.255940.287180@v3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>
> o and by the way, I've disassembled a HVAC unit in an XJ, and it's not
> easy. You have to remove the whole dashboard. So I'd try everything
> else before I went for that approach.
>




L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 10-26-2007 12:37 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward
schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I
killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127
s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary
school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats,
where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other
perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my
documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California
surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over
many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing,
you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your
statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org,
admin@cox.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave
it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020
YOU NEED HELP!
The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards
You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and
anything.
Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up
and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your
arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place.
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net
intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT
Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly
email -------------------- or LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S.
Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!!
Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic
psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a
feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing fag names, as fake as you.
Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW
really are!!!!!
God, why do these stupid queer traitors keep following me around?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.10.26.01.19.48.525587@trepanation.ca lm...
>
> My, you are getting desperate for come-backs.
>
> Of course, you have almost no vocabulary to draw from, eh Illiteratus?
>
> --




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 10-26-2007 12:37 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward
schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I
killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127
s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary
school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats,
where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other
perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my
documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California
surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over
many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing,
you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your
statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org,
admin@cox.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave
it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020
YOU NEED HELP!
The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards
You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and
anything.
Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up
and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your
arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place.
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net
intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT
Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly
email -------------------- or LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S.
Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!!
Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic
psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a
feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing fag names, as fake as you.
Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW
really are!!!!!
God, why do these stupid queer traitors keep following me around?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.10.26.01.19.48.525587@trepanation.ca lm...
>
> My, you are getting desperate for come-backs.
>
> Of course, you have almost no vocabulary to draw from, eh Illiteratus?
>
> --




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 10-26-2007 12:37 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward
schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I
killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127
s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary
school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats,
where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other
perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my
documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California
surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over
many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing,
you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your
statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org,
admin@cox.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave
it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020
YOU NEED HELP!
The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards
You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and
anything.
Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up
and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your
arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place.
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net
intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT
Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly
email -------------------- or LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S.
Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!!
Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic
psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a
feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing fag names, as fake as you.
Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW
really are!!!!!
God, why do these stupid queer traitors keep following me around?
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>
> My, you are getting desperate for come-backs.
>
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Earle Horton 10-26-2007 10:28 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
On the YJ you manually milk the drain valve under the hood while running
water into the vent intake. I don't know what kind of setup the TJ has, but
with the vent located in the same place as the YJ it has to have a drain.
Make sure that is open.

Those were probably fir or spruce needles. Pine needles would be too long
to get in there.

Cheers,

Earle

"John" <john@hytronix.com> wrote in message
news:209Ui.4550$hG2.2996@trndny05...
> Greetings All,
>
> So I turned on the defroster in my '98 TJ for the first time in months
> today, and the smell of burning pine needles immediately followed by
> billowing smoke poured out...
>
> I popped off the wipers and vent cover and stuck my shop-vac hose down
> into the air intake and vacuumed out *tons* of junk. I then re-ran the
> defroster for a while, and other than a light residual burning smell, no
> more fire. Good. :)
>
> I'm looking for opinions on whether I should try to tear right into it
> and disassemble the entire system, or is this a *major* PITA? I've
> never done it before, so any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -John




Earle Horton 10-26-2007 10:28 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
On the YJ you manually milk the drain valve under the hood while running
water into the vent intake. I don't know what kind of setup the TJ has, but
with the vent located in the same place as the YJ it has to have a drain.
Make sure that is open.

Those were probably fir or spruce needles. Pine needles would be too long
to get in there.

Cheers,

Earle

"John" <john@hytronix.com> wrote in message
news:209Ui.4550$hG2.2996@trndny05...
> Greetings All,
>
> So I turned on the defroster in my '98 TJ for the first time in months
> today, and the smell of burning pine needles immediately followed by
> billowing smoke poured out...
>
> I popped off the wipers and vent cover and stuck my shop-vac hose down
> into the air intake and vacuumed out *tons* of junk. I then re-ran the
> defroster for a while, and other than a light residual burning smell, no
> more fire. Good. :)
>
> I'm looking for opinions on whether I should try to tear right into it
> and disassemble the entire system, or is this a *major* PITA? I've
> never done it before, so any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -John




Earle Horton 10-26-2007 10:28 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
On the YJ you manually milk the drain valve under the hood while running
water into the vent intake. I don't know what kind of setup the TJ has, but
with the vent located in the same place as the YJ it has to have a drain.
Make sure that is open.

Those were probably fir or spruce needles. Pine needles would be too long
to get in there.

Cheers,

Earle

"John" <john@hytronix.com> wrote in message
news:209Ui.4550$hG2.2996@trndny05...
> Greetings All,
>
> So I turned on the defroster in my '98 TJ for the first time in months
> today, and the smell of burning pine needles immediately followed by
> billowing smoke poured out...
>
> I popped off the wipers and vent cover and stuck my shop-vac hose down
> into the air intake and vacuumed out *tons* of junk. I then re-ran the
> defroster for a while, and other than a light residual burning smell, no
> more fire. Good. :)
>
> I'm looking for opinions on whether I should try to tear right into it
> and disassemble the entire system, or is this a *major* PITA? I've
> never done it before, so any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -John




Lon Stowell 10-26-2007 09:50 PM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
XS11E wrote:
> XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
>> Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson

>
> I bet I meant Lysol......
>

There is a spray made for A/C, a bit tuffer than Lysol.

Hard to say whether the OP needs to rotorooter their A/C from just the
description, depends where the cruft is located. Might be able to just
flush it out if there is a good bottom drain added.


Lon Stowell 10-26-2007 09:50 PM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
XS11E wrote:
> XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
>> Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson

>
> I bet I meant Lysol......
>

There is a spray made for A/C, a bit tuffer than Lysol.

Hard to say whether the OP needs to rotorooter their A/C from just the
description, depends where the cruft is located. Might be able to just
flush it out if there is a good bottom drain added.


Lon Stowell 10-26-2007 09:50 PM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
XS11E wrote:
> XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
>> Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson

>
> I bet I meant Lysol......
>

There is a spray made for A/C, a bit tuffer than Lysol.

Hard to say whether the OP needs to rotorooter their A/C from just the
description, depends where the cruft is located. Might be able to just
flush it out if there is a good bottom drain added.


XS11E 10-27-2007 11:47 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
Lon Stowell <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>> XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson

>>
>> I bet I meant Lysol......
>>

> There is a spray made for A/C, a bit tuffer than Lysol.


Actually Lysol works as well or better and can be used for other
things if you don't use the entire can. I think it's less
expensive, too, but I haven't looked at prices lately....

> Hard to say whether the OP needs to rotorooter their A/C from just
> the description, depends where the cruft is located. Might be
> able to just flush it out if there is a good bottom drain added.


Probably, I sure wouldn't recommend taking it apart until everything
else has failed...


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XS11E 10-27-2007 11:47 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
Lon Stowell <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>> XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson

>>
>> I bet I meant Lysol......
>>

> There is a spray made for A/C, a bit tuffer than Lysol.


Actually Lysol works as well or better and can be used for other
things if you don't use the entire can. I think it's less
expensive, too, but I haven't looked at prices lately....

> Hard to say whether the OP needs to rotorooter their A/C from just
> the description, depends where the cruft is located. Might be
> able to just flush it out if there is a good bottom drain added.


Probably, I sure wouldn't recommend taking it apart until everything
else has failed...


--
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http://improve-usenet.org

XS11E 10-27-2007 11:47 AM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
Lon Stowell <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>> XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson

>>
>> I bet I meant Lysol......
>>

> There is a spray made for A/C, a bit tuffer than Lysol.


Actually Lysol works as well or better and can be used for other
things if you don't use the entire can. I think it's less
expensive, too, but I haven't looked at prices lately....

> Hard to say whether the OP needs to rotorooter their A/C from just
> the description, depends where the cruft is located. Might be
> able to just flush it out if there is a good bottom drain added.


Probably, I sure wouldn't recommend taking it apart until everything
else has failed...


--
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http://improve-usenet.org

John 10-27-2007 12:37 PM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
XS11E wrote:
> Lon Stowell <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> XS11E wrote:
>>> XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson
>>> I bet I meant Lysol......
>>>

>> There is a spray made for A/C, a bit tuffer than Lysol.

>
> Actually Lysol works as well or better and can be used for other
> things if you don't use the entire can. I think it's less
> expensive, too, but I haven't looked at prices lately....
>
>> Hard to say whether the OP needs to rotorooter their A/C from just
>> the description, depends where the cruft is located. Might be
>> able to just flush it out if there is a good bottom drain added.

>
> Probably, I sure wouldn't recommend taking it apart until everything
> else has failed...
>
>


Let me make sure I have this straight before I go and try this:

I can remove the cowl, stick a hose in the air intake, and flush the
crap out of the drain at the bottom down below and to the right of the
battery box? I thought for sure this would result in water getting
flushed into the passenger side interior, or runi something electrical,
or...

Anyway, can I do this? Failing that approach, I guess I'll have to dive
in there. At least I've got some instructions on how to remove the
heater box now...

Thanks everyone!

-John

John 10-27-2007 12:37 PM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
XS11E wrote:
> Lon Stowell <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> XS11E wrote:
>>> XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson
>>> I bet I meant Lysol......
>>>

>> There is a spray made for A/C, a bit tuffer than Lysol.

>
> Actually Lysol works as well or better and can be used for other
> things if you don't use the entire can. I think it's less
> expensive, too, but I haven't looked at prices lately....
>
>> Hard to say whether the OP needs to rotorooter their A/C from just
>> the description, depends where the cruft is located. Might be
>> able to just flush it out if there is a good bottom drain added.

>
> Probably, I sure wouldn't recommend taking it apart until everything
> else has failed...
>
>


Let me make sure I have this straight before I go and try this:

I can remove the cowl, stick a hose in the air intake, and flush the
crap out of the drain at the bottom down below and to the right of the
battery box? I thought for sure this would result in water getting
flushed into the passenger side interior, or runi something electrical,
or...

Anyway, can I do this? Failing that approach, I guess I'll have to dive
in there. At least I've got some instructions on how to remove the
heater box now...

Thanks everyone!

-John

John 10-27-2007 12:37 PM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
XS11E wrote:
> Lon Stowell <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> XS11E wrote:
>>> XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson
>>> I bet I meant Lysol......
>>>

>> There is a spray made for A/C, a bit tuffer than Lysol.

>
> Actually Lysol works as well or better and can be used for other
> things if you don't use the entire can. I think it's less
> expensive, too, but I haven't looked at prices lately....
>
>> Hard to say whether the OP needs to rotorooter their A/C from just
>> the description, depends where the cruft is located. Might be
>> able to just flush it out if there is a good bottom drain added.

>
> Probably, I sure wouldn't recommend taking it apart until everything
> else has failed...
>
>


Let me make sure I have this straight before I go and try this:

I can remove the cowl, stick a hose in the air intake, and flush the
crap out of the drain at the bottom down below and to the right of the
battery box? I thought for sure this would result in water getting
flushed into the passenger side interior, or runi something electrical,
or...

Anyway, can I do this? Failing that approach, I guess I'll have to dive
in there. At least I've got some instructions on how to remove the
heater box now...

Thanks everyone!

-John

Mike Romain 10-27-2007 01:18 PM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
John wrote:
> XS11E wrote:
>> Lon Stowell <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> XS11E wrote:
>>>> XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson
>>>> I bet I meant Lysol......
>>>>
>>> There is a spray made for A/C, a bit tuffer than Lysol.

>>
>> Actually Lysol works as well or better and can be used for other
>> things if you don't use the entire can. I think it's less
>> expensive, too, but I haven't looked at prices lately....
>>> Hard to say whether the OP needs to rotorooter their A/C from just
>>> the description, depends where the cruft is located. Might be
>>> able to just flush it out if there is a good bottom drain added.

>>
>> Probably, I sure wouldn't recommend taking it apart until everything
>> else has failed...
>>
>>

>
> Let me make sure I have this straight before I go and try this:
>
> I can remove the cowl, stick a hose in the air intake, and flush the
> crap out of the drain at the bottom down below and to the right of the
> battery box? I thought for sure this would result in water getting
> flushed into the passenger side interior, or runi something electrical,
> or...
>
> Anyway, can I do this? Failing that approach, I guess I'll have to dive
> in there. At least I've got some instructions on how to remove the
> heater box now...
>
> Thanks everyone!
>
> -John


Not going to work....

You have stuff all the way inside or you would not have had smoke from
the resistor pack trying to burn your Jeep up.

You were extremely lucky!

That underhood drain is for the intake box. The intake for the insides
just picks up a bit off the bottom of this box so water doesn't get
inside. Putting a hose down there 'will' flood out your insides more
than likely.

Putting a hose on the top of the grill will rinse out the box without
flooding 'if' you can keep the drain running clear.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...

Mike Romain 10-27-2007 01:18 PM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
John wrote:
> XS11E wrote:
>> Lon Stowell <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> XS11E wrote:
>>>> XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson
>>>> I bet I meant Lysol......
>>>>
>>> There is a spray made for A/C, a bit tuffer than Lysol.

>>
>> Actually Lysol works as well or better and can be used for other
>> things if you don't use the entire can. I think it's less
>> expensive, too, but I haven't looked at prices lately....
>>> Hard to say whether the OP needs to rotorooter their A/C from just
>>> the description, depends where the cruft is located. Might be
>>> able to just flush it out if there is a good bottom drain added.

>>
>> Probably, I sure wouldn't recommend taking it apart until everything
>> else has failed...
>>
>>

>
> Let me make sure I have this straight before I go and try this:
>
> I can remove the cowl, stick a hose in the air intake, and flush the
> crap out of the drain at the bottom down below and to the right of the
> battery box? I thought for sure this would result in water getting
> flushed into the passenger side interior, or runi something electrical,
> or...
>
> Anyway, can I do this? Failing that approach, I guess I'll have to dive
> in there. At least I've got some instructions on how to remove the
> heater box now...
>
> Thanks everyone!
>
> -John


Not going to work....

You have stuff all the way inside or you would not have had smoke from
the resistor pack trying to burn your Jeep up.

You were extremely lucky!

That underhood drain is for the intake box. The intake for the insides
just picks up a bit off the bottom of this box so water doesn't get
inside. Putting a hose down there 'will' flood out your insides more
than likely.

Putting a hose on the top of the grill will rinse out the box without
flooding 'if' you can keep the drain running clear.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...

Mike Romain 10-27-2007 01:18 PM

Re: Pine needles in defroster duct
 
John wrote:
> XS11E wrote:
>> Lon Stowell <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> XS11E wrote:
>>>> XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Vacuum it again and then spray Lyson
>>>> I bet I meant Lysol......
>>>>
>>> There is a spray made for A/C, a bit tuffer than Lysol.

>>
>> Actually Lysol works as well or better and can be used for other
>> things if you don't use the entire can. I think it's less
>> expensive, too, but I haven't looked at prices lately....
>>> Hard to say whether the OP needs to rotorooter their A/C from just
>>> the description, depends where the cruft is located. Might be
>>> able to just flush it out if there is a good bottom drain added.

>>
>> Probably, I sure wouldn't recommend taking it apart until everything
>> else has failed...
>>
>>

>
> Let me make sure I have this straight before I go and try this:
>
> I can remove the cowl, stick a hose in the air intake, and flush the
> crap out of the drain at the bottom down below and to the right of the
> battery box? I thought for sure this would result in water getting
> flushed into the passenger side interior, or runi something electrical,
> or...
>
> Anyway, can I do this? Failing that approach, I guess I'll have to dive
> in there. At least I've got some instructions on how to remove the
> heater box now...
>
> Thanks everyone!
>
> -John


Not going to work....

You have stuff all the way inside or you would not have had smoke from
the resistor pack trying to burn your Jeep up.

You were extremely lucky!

That underhood drain is for the intake box. The intake for the insides
just picks up a bit off the bottom of this box so water doesn't get
inside. Putting a hose down there 'will' flood out your insides more
than likely.

Putting a hose on the top of the grill will rinse out the box without
flooding 'if' you can keep the drain running clear.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...


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