"averyislandboy@yahoo.com" wrote:
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<402554B4.5C1D2F2A@***.net>...
> > Hi Carlo,
> > You have to have started your driving in twenty dollar cars on
> > twenty five cent tires to know how easy it is to slip a shift rod into
> > gear and leave the shifter in neutral. I just hope Bob didn't force the
> > trans in, by using the bolts as a puller.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> I'm surprised my manual doesn't mention that you need to have it
> neutral to put the stick in. You pretty much have to have it in gear
> to be able to line up the splines, but you also have to have the stick
> out because it won't clear the body opening. Oh well, crisis averted.
> It must be one of those things a mechanic is supposed to know. I
> grew up on VW's and you don't ever pull the stick out, you just
> disconnect the exterior linkage. Not to mention you can pick the
> tranny up without blowing out a lumbar disc. I just need to go back
> to my veedubs . . .

My manual says it has to be in neutral to insert the shifter....

I have the Haynes manual.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<40264BB7.E8A9D86@sympatico.ca>...
> "averyislandboy@yahoo.com" wrote:
> >
> > L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<402554B4.5C1D2F2A@***.net>...
> > > Hi Carlo,
> > > You have to have started your driving in twenty dollar cars on
> > > twenty five cent tires to know how easy it is to slip a shift rod into
> > > gear and leave the shifter in neutral. I just hope Bob didn't force the
> > > trans in, by using the bolts as a puller.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > I'm surprised my manual doesn't mention that you need to have it
> > neutral to put the stick in. You pretty much have to have it in gear
> > to be able to line up the splines, but you also have to have the stick
> > out because it won't clear the body opening. Oh well, crisis averted.
> > It must be one of those things a mechanic is supposed to know. I
> > grew up on VW's and you don't ever pull the stick out, you just
> > disconnect the exterior linkage. Not to mention you can pick the
> > tranny up without blowing out a lumbar disc. I just need to go back
> > to my veedubs . . .
>
> My manual says it has to be in neutral to insert the shifter....
>
> I have the Haynes manual.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


Yeah, I've got the Factory manual the PO gave me when I bought the
rig. I've been struggling with the justification to buy another
manual when I already have one. Now I think I have it.

So the worst thing now about the whole experience is that I've got to
retrain my foot to press the clutch only a nudge instead all the way
to the floor. It's so tight now.

 

Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<40264BB7.E8A9D86@sympatico.ca>...
> "averyislandboy@yahoo.com" wrote:
> >
> > L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<402554B4.5C1D2F2A@***.net>...
> > > Hi Carlo,
> > > You have to have started your driving in twenty dollar cars on
> > > twenty five cent tires to know how easy it is to slip a shift rod into
> > > gear and leave the shifter in neutral. I just hope Bob didn't force the
> > > trans in, by using the bolts as a puller.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > I'm surprised my manual doesn't mention that you need to have it
> > neutral to put the stick in. You pretty much have to have it in gear
> > to be able to line up the splines, but you also have to have the stick
> > out because it won't clear the body opening. Oh well, crisis averted.
> > It must be one of those things a mechanic is supposed to know. I
> > grew up on VW's and you don't ever pull the stick out, you just
> > disconnect the exterior linkage. Not to mention you can pick the
> > tranny up without blowing out a lumbar disc. I just need to go back
> > to my veedubs . . .
>
> My manual says it has to be in neutral to insert the shifter....
>
> I have the Haynes manual.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


Yeah, I've got the Factory manual the PO gave me when I bought the
rig. I've been struggling with the justification to buy another
manual when I already have one. Now I think I have it.

So the worst thing now about the whole experience is that I've got to
retrain my foot to press the clutch only a nudge instead all the way
to the floor. It's so tight now.

 

Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<40264BB7.E8A9D86@sympatico.ca>...
> "averyislandboy@yahoo.com" wrote:
> >
> > L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<402554B4.5C1D2F2A@***.net>...
> > > Hi Carlo,
> > > You have to have started your driving in twenty dollar cars on
> > > twenty five cent tires to know how easy it is to slip a shift rod into
> > > gear and leave the shifter in neutral. I just hope Bob didn't force the
> > > trans in, by using the bolts as a puller.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > I'm surprised my manual doesn't mention that you need to have it
> > neutral to put the stick in. You pretty much have to have it in gear
> > to be able to line up the splines, but you also have to have the stick
> > out because it won't clear the body opening. Oh well, crisis averted.
> > It must be one of those things a mechanic is supposed to know. I
> > grew up on VW's and you don't ever pull the stick out, you just
> > disconnect the exterior linkage. Not to mention you can pick the
> > tranny up without blowing out a lumbar disc. I just need to go back
> > to my veedubs . . .
>
> My manual says it has to be in neutral to insert the shifter....
>
> I have the Haynes manual.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


Yeah, I've got the Factory manual the PO gave me when I bought the
rig. I've been struggling with the justification to buy another
manual when I already have one. Now I think I have it.

So the worst thing now about the whole experience is that I've got to
retrain my foot to press the clutch only a nudge instead all the way
to the floor. It's so tight now.

 

Well....I got my automotive education in a hap - hazard order. My first
experience (after drivers ed in high school - just before I dropped out) was
in 1964 @ Bear factory training, Rock Island, Ill. I learned front end
alignment, frame straightening, wheel balancing, brakes, etc
...............and didn't know how to use a grease gun until after I
graduated. I then went to work as a "front end specialist" . I could run the
alignment rack & bust tires (& do lube jobs) - but didn't have a clue about
doing tune ups - so I watched, asked, & learned. Then got drafted & became a
"close tolerance aircraft machinist (had never heard of a lathe or milling
machine). Worked on F-100's, F-4's, C130's, B52's ,KC135Q, & the SR-71 for
a while. If they ordered a part & it didn't come in - I made it.........but
mostly I went out on the flight line & removed stripped screws.
But I am still amazed at your ability to give an answer to a vague
description of a problem. Many times, I believe that I would have been able
to come to the same conclusion after actually looking at the part (in my
hands - not a digital picture)..............I am impressed

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:402554B4.5C1D2F2A@***.net...
> Hi Carlo,
> You have to have started your driving in twenty dollar cars on
> twenty five cent tires to know how easy it is to slip a shift rod into
> gear and leave the shifter in neutral. I just hope Bob didn't force the
> trans in, by using the bolts as a puller.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Carlo wrote:
> >
> > I thought about that - but I thought he said he did that
> > already..................never *** U ME, huh.
> >
> > --
> > Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> > carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
> > '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> > O|||||||O
> > '92 Explorer '65 Mustang
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:40254FA3.6A482EAC@***.net...
> > > My first step would be to pull the lever and look down in the
> > > tower, and pry the shift rod back into the neutral position.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > "averyislandboy@yahoo.com" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Where I'm at now:
> > > > Tranny back in. Can't get it to go into gear. Good pressure
build-up
> > > > at clutch pedal, have bled system repeatedly. With the rear axle in
> > > > the air, I can spin the back tires if the clutch is in, but they
lock
> > > > up when I let it out even though it feels like I'm in neutral (good
> > > > side-to-side play at gearshift). If I start the engine and let out
> > > > the clutch, there is some weak power to the rear wheels and a
growling
> > > > noise (I only let it do this for the short time it took to punch the
> > > > clutch back to the floor).
> > > >
> > > > Where I've been:
> > > > Okay, I've had a slow leak in my clutch hydraulic system for about a
> > > > year. I usually have to top it off every couple of months. No big
> > > > deal until it accelerated to every week, every day. No leaks
evident
> > > > at the clutch master cylinder or the hose. So I pulled the tranny
and
> > > > replaced the slave cylinder (and the clutch disc while I was in
> > > > there). Put the tranny back in (had a little trouble lining up the
> > > > splines, but other than that it wasn't too awful). I did use some
> > > > cut-off bolts to realign the case and so I wouldn't hang the tranny
> > > > weight on the clutch (a no-no no matter who you talk to). I did
have
> > > > to have my son twist the rear propellor shaft back and forth to line
> > > > up the splines at the clutch. When I pulled the tranny, I left it
in
> > > > neutral. when I realized I had to have it in gear to do the above
> > > > twisting of the propellor to line up the splines, I put the shifter
> > > > back in and put it in 2nd gear (I think). Then I pulled the shifter
> > > > back out so I could put the tranny back in. So I shifted gears in
the
> > > > tranny while it was disconnected from the clutch/engine.
> > > >
> > > > Where do I go now?
> > > > I was going to pull the tranny this weekend, but I have no idea what
> > > > I'm going to do once it's out. So, I'm saving my energy and doing
> > > > research. Have I misaligned my synchros somehow? How do you
realign
> > > > them? The tranny was working fine before I pulled it, how likely is
> > > > it that it died on the table? I noticed that when I pull out the
> > > > shifter and look down in the hole and have my son turn the back tire
> > > > (it's still up on the jack stands) and the clutch is in, there is a
> > > > splined shaft or gear rotating on the passenger side of the hole
that
> > > > has a painted mark on it. Why is that there? I've tried to turn
the
> > > > tire so that the paint mark is at 12:00 and 9:00 and put in the
> > > > shifter and try to put it in gear, but that hasn't helped. So I
think
> > > > my tranny is still in gear, but the shifter thinks it's in neutral.
> > > > How do I get these two guys on the same page?
> > > >
> > > > Mike? Bill? Anybody?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > > '88 Wrangler money pit

 

Well....I got my automotive education in a hap - hazard order. My first
experience (after drivers ed in high school - just before I dropped out) was
in 1964 @ Bear factory training, Rock Island, Ill. I learned front end
alignment, frame straightening, wheel balancing, brakes, etc
...............and didn't know how to use a grease gun until after I
graduated. I then went to work as a "front end specialist" . I could run the
alignment rack & bust tires (& do lube jobs) - but didn't have a clue about
doing tune ups - so I watched, asked, & learned. Then got drafted & became a
"close tolerance aircraft machinist (had never heard of a lathe or milling
machine). Worked on F-100's, F-4's, C130's, B52's ,KC135Q, & the SR-71 for
a while. If they ordered a part & it didn't come in - I made it.........but
mostly I went out on the flight line & removed stripped screws.
But I am still amazed at your ability to give an answer to a vague
description of a problem. Many times, I believe that I would have been able
to come to the same conclusion after actually looking at the part (in my
hands - not a digital picture)..............I am impressed

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:402554B4.5C1D2F2A@***.net...
> Hi Carlo,
> You have to have started your driving in twenty dollar cars on
> twenty five cent tires to know how easy it is to slip a shift rod into
> gear and leave the shifter in neutral. I just hope Bob didn't force the
> trans in, by using the bolts as a puller.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Carlo wrote:
> >
> > I thought about that - but I thought he said he did that
> > already..................never *** U ME, huh.
> >
> > --
> > Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> > carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
> > '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> > O|||||||O
> > '92 Explorer '65 Mustang
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:40254FA3.6A482EAC@***.net...
> > > My first step would be to pull the lever and look down in the
> > > tower, and pry the shift rod back into the neutral position.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > "averyislandboy@yahoo.com" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Where I'm at now:
> > > > Tranny back in. Can't get it to go into gear. Good pressure
build-up
> > > > at clutch pedal, have bled system repeatedly. With the rear axle in
> > > > the air, I can spin the back tires if the clutch is in, but they
lock
> > > > up when I let it out even though it feels like I'm in neutral (good
> > > > side-to-side play at gearshift). If I start the engine and let out
> > > > the clutch, there is some weak power to the rear wheels and a
growling
> > > > noise (I only let it do this for the short time it took to punch the
> > > > clutch back to the floor).
> > > >
> > > > Where I've been:
> > > > Okay, I've had a slow leak in my clutch hydraulic system for about a
> > > > year. I usually have to top it off every couple of months. No big
> > > > deal until it accelerated to every week, every day. No leaks
evident
> > > > at the clutch master cylinder or the hose. So I pulled the tranny
and
> > > > replaced the slave cylinder (and the clutch disc while I was in
> > > > there). Put the tranny back in (had a little trouble lining up the
> > > > splines, but other than that it wasn't too awful). I did use some
> > > > cut-off bolts to realign the case and so I wouldn't hang the tranny
> > > > weight on the clutch (a no-no no matter who you talk to). I did
have
> > > > to have my son twist the rear propellor shaft back and forth to line
> > > > up the splines at the clutch. When I pulled the tranny, I left it
in
> > > > neutral. when I realized I had to have it in gear to do the above
> > > > twisting of the propellor to line up the splines, I put the shifter
> > > > back in and put it in 2nd gear (I think). Then I pulled the shifter
> > > > back out so I could put the tranny back in. So I shifted gears in
the
> > > > tranny while it was disconnected from the clutch/engine.
> > > >
> > > > Where do I go now?
> > > > I was going to pull the tranny this weekend, but I have no idea what
> > > > I'm going to do once it's out. So, I'm saving my energy and doing
> > > > research. Have I misaligned my synchros somehow? How do you
realign
> > > > them? The tranny was working fine before I pulled it, how likely is
> > > > it that it died on the table? I noticed that when I pull out the
> > > > shifter and look down in the hole and have my son turn the back tire
> > > > (it's still up on the jack stands) and the clutch is in, there is a
> > > > splined shaft or gear rotating on the passenger side of the hole
that
> > > > has a painted mark on it. Why is that there? I've tried to turn
the
> > > > tire so that the paint mark is at 12:00 and 9:00 and put in the
> > > > shifter and try to put it in gear, but that hasn't helped. So I
think
> > > > my tranny is still in gear, but the shifter thinks it's in neutral.
> > > > How do I get these two guys on the same page?
> > > >
> > > > Mike? Bill? Anybody?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > > '88 Wrangler money pit

 

Well....I got my automotive education in a hap - hazard order. My first
experience (after drivers ed in high school - just before I dropped out) was
in 1964 @ Bear factory training, Rock Island, Ill. I learned front end
alignment, frame straightening, wheel balancing, brakes, etc
...............and didn't know how to use a grease gun until after I
graduated. I then went to work as a "front end specialist" . I could run the
alignment rack & bust tires (& do lube jobs) - but didn't have a clue about
doing tune ups - so I watched, asked, & learned. Then got drafted & became a
"close tolerance aircraft machinist (had never heard of a lathe or milling
machine). Worked on F-100's, F-4's, C130's, B52's ,KC135Q, & the SR-71 for
a while. If they ordered a part & it didn't come in - I made it.........but
mostly I went out on the flight line & removed stripped screws.
But I am still amazed at your ability to give an answer to a vague
description of a problem. Many times, I believe that I would have been able
to come to the same conclusion after actually looking at the part (in my
hands - not a digital picture)..............I am impressed

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:402554B4.5C1D2F2A@***.net...
> Hi Carlo,
> You have to have started your driving in twenty dollar cars on
> twenty five cent tires to know how easy it is to slip a shift rod into
> gear and leave the shifter in neutral. I just hope Bob didn't force the
> trans in, by using the bolts as a puller.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Carlo wrote:
> >
> > I thought about that - but I thought he said he did that
> > already..................never *** U ME, huh.
> >
> > --
> > Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> > carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
> > '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> > O|||||||O
> > '92 Explorer '65 Mustang
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:40254FA3.6A482EAC@***.net...
> > > My first step would be to pull the lever and look down in the
> > > tower, and pry the shift rod back into the neutral position.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > "averyislandboy@yahoo.com" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Where I'm at now:
> > > > Tranny back in. Can't get it to go into gear. Good pressure
build-up
> > > > at clutch pedal, have bled system repeatedly. With the rear axle in
> > > > the air, I can spin the back tires if the clutch is in, but they
lock
> > > > up when I let it out even though it feels like I'm in neutral (good
> > > > side-to-side play at gearshift). If I start the engine and let out
> > > > the clutch, there is some weak power to the rear wheels and a
growling
> > > > noise (I only let it do this for the short time it took to punch the
> > > > clutch back to the floor).
> > > >
> > > > Where I've been:
> > > > Okay, I've had a slow leak in my clutch hydraulic system for about a
> > > > year. I usually have to top it off every couple of months. No big
> > > > deal until it accelerated to every week, every day. No leaks
evident
> > > > at the clutch master cylinder or the hose. So I pulled the tranny
and
> > > > replaced the slave cylinder (and the clutch disc while I was in
> > > > there). Put the tranny back in (had a little trouble lining up the
> > > > splines, but other than that it wasn't too awful). I did use some
> > > > cut-off bolts to realign the case and so I wouldn't hang the tranny
> > > > weight on the clutch (a no-no no matter who you talk to). I did
have
> > > > to have my son twist the rear propellor shaft back and forth to line
> > > > up the splines at the clutch. When I pulled the tranny, I left it
in
> > > > neutral. when I realized I had to have it in gear to do the above
> > > > twisting of the propellor to line up the splines, I put the shifter
> > > > back in and put it in 2nd gear (I think). Then I pulled the shifter
> > > > back out so I could put the tranny back in. So I shifted gears in
the
> > > > tranny while it was disconnected from the clutch/engine.
> > > >
> > > > Where do I go now?
> > > > I was going to pull the tranny this weekend, but I have no idea what
> > > > I'm going to do once it's out. So, I'm saving my energy and doing
> > > > research. Have I misaligned my synchros somehow? How do you
realign
> > > > them? The tranny was working fine before I pulled it, how likely is
> > > > it that it died on the table? I noticed that when I pull out the
> > > > shifter and look down in the hole and have my son turn the back tire
> > > > (it's still up on the jack stands) and the clutch is in, there is a
> > > > splined shaft or gear rotating on the passenger side of the hole
that
> > > > has a painted mark on it. Why is that there? I've tried to turn
the
> > > > tire so that the paint mark is at 12:00 and 9:00 and put in the
> > > > shifter and try to put it in gear, but that hasn't helped. So I
think
> > > > my tranny is still in gear, but the shifter thinks it's in neutral.
> > > > How do I get these two guys on the same page?
> > > >
> > > > Mike? Bill? Anybody?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > > '88 Wrangler money pit

 

Thanks, it's a little compensation for having dyslexia.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Carlo wrote:
>
> Well....I got my automotive education in a hap - hazard order. My first
> experience (after drivers ed in high school - just before I dropped out) was
> in 1964 @ Bear factory training, Rock Island, Ill. I learned front end
> alignment, frame straightening, wheel balancing, brakes, etc
> ..............and didn't know how to use a grease gun until after I
> graduated. I then went to work as a "front end specialist" . I could run the
> alignment rack & bust tires (& do lube jobs) - but didn't have a clue about
> doing tune ups - so I watched, asked, & learned. Then got drafted & became a
> "close tolerance aircraft machinist (had never heard of a lathe or milling
> machine). Worked on F-100's, F-4's, C130's, B52's ,KC135Q, & the SR-71 for
> a while. If they ordered a part & it didn't come in - I made it.........but
> mostly I went out on the flight line & removed stripped screws.
> But I am still amazed at your ability to give an answer to a vague
> description of a problem. Many times, I believe that I would have been able
> to come to the same conclusion after actually looking at the part (in my
> hands - not a digital picture)..............I am impressed
>
> --
> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
> '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> O|||||||O
> '92 Explorer '65 Mustang

 

Thanks, it's a little compensation for having dyslexia.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Carlo wrote:
>
> Well....I got my automotive education in a hap - hazard order. My first
> experience (after drivers ed in high school - just before I dropped out) was
> in 1964 @ Bear factory training, Rock Island, Ill. I learned front end
> alignment, frame straightening, wheel balancing, brakes, etc
> ..............and didn't know how to use a grease gun until after I
> graduated. I then went to work as a "front end specialist" . I could run the
> alignment rack & bust tires (& do lube jobs) - but didn't have a clue about
> doing tune ups - so I watched, asked, & learned. Then got drafted & became a
> "close tolerance aircraft machinist (had never heard of a lathe or milling
> machine). Worked on F-100's, F-4's, C130's, B52's ,KC135Q, & the SR-71 for
> a while. If they ordered a part & it didn't come in - I made it.........but
> mostly I went out on the flight line & removed stripped screws.
> But I am still amazed at your ability to give an answer to a vague
> description of a problem. Many times, I believe that I would have been able
> to come to the same conclusion after actually looking at the part (in my
> hands - not a digital picture)..............I am impressed
>
> --
> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
> '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> O|||||||O
> '92 Explorer '65 Mustang

 

Thanks, it's a little compensation for having dyslexia.
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Carlo wrote:
>
> Well....I got my automotive education in a hap - hazard order. My first
> experience (after drivers ed in high school - just before I dropped out) was
> in 1964 @ Bear factory training, Rock Island, Ill. I learned front end
> alignment, frame straightening, wheel balancing, brakes, etc
> ..............and didn't know how to use a grease gun until after I
> graduated. I then went to work as a "front end specialist" . I could run the
> alignment rack & bust tires (& do lube jobs) - but didn't have a clue about
> doing tune ups - so I watched, asked, & learned. Then got drafted & became a
> "close tolerance aircraft machinist (had never heard of a lathe or milling
> machine). Worked on F-100's, F-4's, C130's, B52's ,KC135Q, & the SR-71 for
> a while. If they ordered a part & it didn't come in - I made it.........but
> mostly I went out on the flight line & removed stripped screws.
> But I am still amazed at your ability to give an answer to a vague
> description of a problem. Many times, I believe that I would have been able
> to come to the same conclusion after actually looking at the part (in my
> hands - not a digital picture)..............I am impressed
>
> --
> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
> '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> O|||||||O
> '92 Explorer '65 Mustang