Monroe

I'll further that concern with mice. After many attempts at cleaning
out an engine compartment nest in my GCL, now going to the dealership
for disassembly of a portion of the compartment to finish removing and
disinfecting the nest, (likely) extending it further back through
interior ducts into the air circulation system. All in all, they
estimate $600 - $800 (about 6 - 8 hours) for the job. Jesus!

For the coming winter, I've taken local advice ranging from placement
of Irish spring bar soap to "Bounce" laundry sheets at discrete
locations within the vehicle. That and I won't keep the garage off
limits for my cats during the winter (despite chilling temps leading
into the house).

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:35:06 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
<matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:


>Good advice on plugging the intake and exhaust. I had a mouse build a nest
>in the transmission case of a Kawasaki Mule once, not pretty. Expect to have
>to clean out mouse nests from the nooks and crannies under the hood in the
>spring. A judicial application of mothballs may help.
>
>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>news:13erpidop2g6a97@corp.supernews.com...
>> For that kind of storage I'd suggest:
>>
>> Clean oil: do an oil and filter change, run it 100 miles or so to get
>> things well warmed up and mixed with any of the old oil.
>>
>> Check your anti freeze, replace as necessary. Your '99 may not have had
>> any cooling service, this would be a good time to flush and refill. I
>> don't have the table in front of me but IIRC you may need to go to 60%
>> ethelyne glycol instead of the regular 50% mix.
>>
>> Make sure the tank is full of gas to minimize condensation. Using
>> something like Stabil is a good idea but not really necessary for the
>> reasonably short storage time.
>>
>> Tires need to be off the ground and protected from UV (they should not see
>> sunlight!). If you are storing outside, by all means take them off.
>> Horizontal or vertical is fine, just don't store them with weight on the
>> wheels.
>>
>> Jackstands can be on the axles (under the spring mounts) or on the frame
>> with the springs relaxed. You can go either way, I guess I prefer the
>> frame to let the springs relax and not sag.
>>
>> You can get a maintenance charger for the battery and leave it on all
>> winter. Something like this:
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42292
>> We normally leave the batteries in the vehicle but for that temp it
>> wouldn't hurt to bring it in to a cool (10 C to 20 C would be good.)
>> storage area. Store it on a wood base, use the maintenance charger.
>>
>> Plug the exhaust loosely with a rag, keeps the rodents out. Ditto for the
>> air intake to the engine and the heater/AC
>>
>> Make sure the cover is one that is compatible with the paint. The cheap
>> ones are nylon, the rain/snow/melt will stick it to the paint quite
>> nicely. I much prefer tenting it with a blue tarp. Put a 2x4 on the front
>> and rear bumpers that supports another one about a foot over the top of
>> the cab, drape the tarp over the top, anchor it down on each side with
>> another couple of 2x4's.
>>
>> griffin wrote:
>>> I'm parking my '99 TJ Sport for the winter and would like some advice on
>>> what to do beforehand. Where I live it gets to about -35C with about 3-4
>>> feet of snow cumulative for about a 5-6mth block. Here's what I will be
>>> doing already:
>>>
>>> 1. Taking the tires off and storing them in the shed or outside but under
>>> poly, lying on their sides and stacked (is this recommended?) They are
>>> 32"
>>> procomp mud's on chrome rims.
>>>
>>> 2. Setting the Jeep on 4 axle stands (any particular spots I should set
>>> them
>>> on?). I'll be putting cinder blocks under as well for added security.
>>> What
>>> is the recommended method for all of this?
>>>
>>> 3. Getting a full car cover and covering the whole thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> I've also got neoprene seat covers. Should these be stored inside for the
>>> winter or will they be OK? Any special precautions for my battery, winch,
>>> connections, etc?
>>>
>>> What about fluids, gas tank, etc?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>

--

Monroe

griffin

Good advice. We have a vole problem where I live because of people putting
bird-seed outside during the winter. And squirrels ...millions and millions
of squirrels that like to store their food in odd places.

Definitely going to seal up the Jeep. What about protecting my seats? I've
got the neoprene covers on now but they could chew right through those if
they wanted the material. When I took the rear seat out of my YJ years ago
and left it outside for a few weeks, they got at it and took out the
stuffing. I'm worried about that inside the Jeep.



"Monroe" <terra3@wildroseinternet.ca> wrote in message
news:t8kue3perm75rr8kfensjl238tpnc56ed3@4ax.com..

griffin

Good advice. We have a vole problem where I live because of people putting
bird-seed outside during the winter. And squirrels ...millions and millions
of squirrels that like to store their food in odd places.

Definitely going to seal up the Jeep. What about protecting my seats? I've
got the neoprene covers on now but they could chew right through those if
they wanted the material. When I took the rear seat out of my YJ years ago
and left it outside for a few weeks, they got at it and took out the
stuffing. I'm worried about that inside the Jeep.



"Monroe" <terra3@wildroseinternet.ca> wrote in message
news:t8kue3perm75rr8kfensjl238tpnc56ed3@4ax.com..

griffin

Good advice. We have a vole problem where I live because of people putting
bird-seed outside during the winter. And squirrels ...millions and millions
of squirrels that like to store their food in odd places.

Definitely going to seal up the Jeep. What about protecting my seats? I've
got the neoprene covers on now but they could chew right through those if
they wanted the material. When I took the rear seat out of my YJ years ago
and left it outside for a few weeks, they got at it and took out the
stuffing. I'm worried about that inside the Jeep.



"Monroe" <terra3@wildroseinternet.ca> wrote in message
news:t8kue3perm75rr8kfensjl238tpnc56ed3@4ax.com..

griffin

Good advice. We have a vole problem where I live because of people putting
bird-seed outside during the winter. And squirrels ...millions and millions
of squirrels that like to store their food in odd places.

Definitely going to seal up the Jeep. What about protecting my seats? I've
got the neoprene covers on now but they could chew right through those if
they wanted the material. When I took the rear seat out of my YJ years ago
and left it outside for a few weeks, they got at it and took out the
stuffing. I'm worried about that inside the Jeep.



"Monroe" <terra3@wildroseinternet.ca> wrote in message
news:t8kue3perm75rr8kfensjl238tpnc56ed3@4ax.com..

Matt Macchiarolo

Field mice in Michigan love those dryer sheets, they make great nest
insulation. BTDT. :-(

"Monroe" <terra3@wildroseinternet.ca> wrote in message
news:t8kue3perm75rr8kfensjl238tpnc56ed3@4ax.com...
> I'll further that concern with mice. After many attempts at cleaning
> out an engine compartment nest in my GCL, now going to the dealership
> for disassembly of a portion of the compartment to finish removing and
> disinfecting the nest, (likely) extending it further back through
> interior ducts into the air circulation system. All in all, they
> estimate $600 - $800 (about 6 - 8 hours) for the job. Jesus!
>
> For the coming winter, I've taken local advice ranging from placement
> of Irish spring bar soap to "Bounce" laundry sheets at discrete
> locations within the vehicle. That and I won't keep the garage off
> limits for my cats during the winter (despite chilling temps leading
> into the house).
>
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:35:06 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Good advice on plugging the intake and exhaust. I had a mouse build a nest
>>in the transmission case of a Kawasaki Mule once, not pretty. Expect to
>>have
>>to clean out mouse nests from the nooks and crannies under the hood in the
>>spring. A judicial application of mothballs may help.
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:13erpidop2g6a97@corp.supernews.com...
>>> For that kind of storage I'd suggest:
>>>
>>> Clean oil: do an oil and filter change, run it 100 miles or so to get
>>> things well warmed up and mixed with any of the old oil.
>>>
>>> Check your anti freeze, replace as necessary. Your '99 may not have had
>>> any cooling service, this would be a good time to flush and refill. I
>>> don't have the table in front of me but IIRC you may need to go to 60%
>>> ethelyne glycol instead of the regular 50% mix.
>>>
>>> Make sure the tank is full of gas to minimize condensation. Using
>>> something like Stabil is a good idea but not really necessary for the
>>> reasonably short storage time.
>>>
>>> Tires need to be off the ground and protected from UV (they should not
>>> see
>>> sunlight!). If you are storing outside, by all means take them off.
>>> Horizontal or vertical is fine, just don't store them with weight on the
>>> wheels.
>>>
>>> Jackstands can be on the axles (under the spring mounts) or on the frame
>>> with the springs relaxed. You can go either way, I guess I prefer the
>>> frame to let the springs relax and not sag.
>>>
>>> You can get a maintenance charger for the battery and leave it on all
>>> winter. Something like this:
>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42292
>>> We normally leave the batteries in the vehicle but for that temp it
>>> wouldn't hurt to bring it in to a cool (10 C to 20 C would be good.)
>>> storage area. Store it on a wood base, use the maintenance charger.
>>>
>>> Plug the exhaust loosely with a rag, keeps the rodents out. Ditto for
>>> the
>>> air intake to the engine and the heater/AC
>>>
>>> Make sure the cover is one that is compatible with the paint. The cheap
>>> ones are nylon, the rain/snow/melt will stick it to the paint quite
>>> nicely. I much prefer tenting it with a blue tarp. Put a 2x4 on the
>>> front
>>> and rear bumpers that supports another one about a foot over the top of
>>> the cab, drape the tarp over the top, anchor it down on each side with
>>> another couple of 2x4's.
>>>
>>> griffin wrote:
>>>> I'm parking my '99 TJ Sport for the winter and would like some advice
>>>> on
>>>> what to do beforehand. Where I live it gets to about -35C with about
>>>> 3-4
>>>> feet of snow cumulative for about a 5-6mth block. Here's what I will be
>>>> doing already:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Taking the tires off and storing them in the shed or outside but
>>>> under
>>>> poly, lying on their sides and stacked (is this recommended?) They are
>>>> 32"
>>>> procomp mud's on chrome rims.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Setting the Jeep on 4 axle stands (any particular spots I should set
>>>> them
>>>> on?). I'll be putting cinder blocks under as well for added security.
>>>> What
>>>> is the recommended method for all of this?
>>>>
>>>> 3. Getting a full car cover and covering the whole thing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've also got neoprene seat covers. Should these be stored inside for
>>>> the
>>>> winter or will they be OK? Any special precautions for my battery,
>>>> winch,
>>>> connections, etc?
>>>>
>>>> What about fluids, gas tank, etc?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>
> --
>
> Monroe

Matt Macchiarolo

Field mice in Michigan love those dryer sheets, they make great nest
insulation. BTDT. :-(

"Monroe" <terra3@wildroseinternet.ca> wrote in message
news:t8kue3perm75rr8kfensjl238tpnc56ed3@4ax.com...
> I'll further that concern with mice. After many attempts at cleaning
> out an engine compartment nest in my GCL, now going to the dealership
> for disassembly of a portion of the compartment to finish removing and
> disinfecting the nest, (likely) extending it further back through
> interior ducts into the air circulation system. All in all, they
> estimate $600 - $800 (about 6 - 8 hours) for the job. Jesus!
>
> For the coming winter, I've taken local advice ranging from placement
> of Irish spring bar soap to "Bounce" laundry sheets at discrete
> locations within the vehicle. That and I won't keep the garage off
> limits for my cats during the winter (despite chilling temps leading
> into the house).
>
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:35:06 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Good advice on plugging the intake and exhaust. I had a mouse build a nest
>>in the transmission case of a Kawasaki Mule once, not pretty. Expect to
>>have
>>to clean out mouse nests from the nooks and crannies under the hood in the
>>spring. A judicial application of mothballs may help.
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:13erpidop2g6a97@corp.supernews.com...
>>> For that kind of storage I'd suggest:
>>>
>>> Clean oil: do an oil and filter change, run it 100 miles or so to get
>>> things well warmed up and mixed with any of the old oil.
>>>
>>> Check your anti freeze, replace as necessary. Your '99 may not have had
>>> any cooling service, this would be a good time to flush and refill. I
>>> don't have the table in front of me but IIRC you may need to go to 60%
>>> ethelyne glycol instead of the regular 50% mix.
>>>
>>> Make sure the tank is full of gas to minimize condensation. Using
>>> something like Stabil is a good idea but not really necessary for the
>>> reasonably short storage time.
>>>
>>> Tires need to be off the ground and protected from UV (they should not
>>> see
>>> sunlight!). If you are storing outside, by all means take them off.
>>> Horizontal or vertical is fine, just don't store them with weight on the
>>> wheels.
>>>
>>> Jackstands can be on the axles (under the spring mounts) or on the frame
>>> with the springs relaxed. You can go either way, I guess I prefer the
>>> frame to let the springs relax and not sag.
>>>
>>> You can get a maintenance charger for the battery and leave it on all
>>> winter. Something like this:
>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42292
>>> We normally leave the batteries in the vehicle but for that temp it
>>> wouldn't hurt to bring it in to a cool (10 C to 20 C would be good.)
>>> storage area. Store it on a wood base, use the maintenance charger.
>>>
>>> Plug the exhaust loosely with a rag, keeps the rodents out. Ditto for
>>> the
>>> air intake to the engine and the heater/AC
>>>
>>> Make sure the cover is one that is compatible with the paint. The cheap
>>> ones are nylon, the rain/snow/melt will stick it to the paint quite
>>> nicely. I much prefer tenting it with a blue tarp. Put a 2x4 on the
>>> front
>>> and rear bumpers that supports another one about a foot over the top of
>>> the cab, drape the tarp over the top, anchor it down on each side with
>>> another couple of 2x4's.
>>>
>>> griffin wrote:
>>>> I'm parking my '99 TJ Sport for the winter and would like some advice
>>>> on
>>>> what to do beforehand. Where I live it gets to about -35C with about
>>>> 3-4
>>>> feet of snow cumulative for about a 5-6mth block. Here's what I will be
>>>> doing already:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Taking the tires off and storing them in the shed or outside but
>>>> under
>>>> poly, lying on their sides and stacked (is this recommended?) They are
>>>> 32"
>>>> procomp mud's on chrome rims.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Setting the Jeep on 4 axle stands (any particular spots I should set
>>>> them
>>>> on?). I'll be putting cinder blocks under as well for added security.
>>>> What
>>>> is the recommended method for all of this?
>>>>
>>>> 3. Getting a full car cover and covering the whole thing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've also got neoprene seat covers. Should these be stored inside for
>>>> the
>>>> winter or will they be OK? Any special precautions for my battery,
>>>> winch,
>>>> connections, etc?
>>>>
>>>> What about fluids, gas tank, etc?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>
> --
>
> Monroe

Matt Macchiarolo

Field mice in Michigan love those dryer sheets, they make great nest
insulation. BTDT. :-(

"Monroe" <terra3@wildroseinternet.ca> wrote in message
news:t8kue3perm75rr8kfensjl238tpnc56ed3@4ax.com...
> I'll further that concern with mice. After many attempts at cleaning
> out an engine compartment nest in my GCL, now going to the dealership
> for disassembly of a portion of the compartment to finish removing and
> disinfecting the nest, (likely) extending it further back through
> interior ducts into the air circulation system. All in all, they
> estimate $600 - $800 (about 6 - 8 hours) for the job. Jesus!
>
> For the coming winter, I've taken local advice ranging from placement
> of Irish spring bar soap to "Bounce" laundry sheets at discrete
> locations within the vehicle. That and I won't keep the garage off
> limits for my cats during the winter (despite chilling temps leading
> into the house).
>
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:35:06 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Good advice on plugging the intake and exhaust. I had a mouse build a nest
>>in the transmission case of a Kawasaki Mule once, not pretty. Expect to
>>have
>>to clean out mouse nests from the nooks and crannies under the hood in the
>>spring. A judicial application of mothballs may help.
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:13erpidop2g6a97@corp.supernews.com...
>>> For that kind of storage I'd suggest:
>>>
>>> Clean oil: do an oil and filter change, run it 100 miles or so to get
>>> things well warmed up and mixed with any of the old oil.
>>>
>>> Check your anti freeze, replace as necessary. Your '99 may not have had
>>> any cooling service, this would be a good time to flush and refill. I
>>> don't have the table in front of me but IIRC you may need to go to 60%
>>> ethelyne glycol instead of the regular 50% mix.
>>>
>>> Make sure the tank is full of gas to minimize condensation. Using
>>> something like Stabil is a good idea but not really necessary for the
>>> reasonably short storage time.
>>>
>>> Tires need to be off the ground and protected from UV (they should not
>>> see
>>> sunlight!). If you are storing outside, by all means take them off.
>>> Horizontal or vertical is fine, just don't store them with weight on the
>>> wheels.
>>>
>>> Jackstands can be on the axles (under the spring mounts) or on the frame
>>> with the springs relaxed. You can go either way, I guess I prefer the
>>> frame to let the springs relax and not sag.
>>>
>>> You can get a maintenance charger for the battery and leave it on all
>>> winter. Something like this:
>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42292
>>> We normally leave the batteries in the vehicle but for that temp it
>>> wouldn't hurt to bring it in to a cool (10 C to 20 C would be good.)
>>> storage area. Store it on a wood base, use the maintenance charger.
>>>
>>> Plug the exhaust loosely with a rag, keeps the rodents out. Ditto for
>>> the
>>> air intake to the engine and the heater/AC
>>>
>>> Make sure the cover is one that is compatible with the paint. The cheap
>>> ones are nylon, the rain/snow/melt will stick it to the paint quite
>>> nicely. I much prefer tenting it with a blue tarp. Put a 2x4 on the
>>> front
>>> and rear bumpers that supports another one about a foot over the top of
>>> the cab, drape the tarp over the top, anchor it down on each side with
>>> another couple of 2x4's.
>>>
>>> griffin wrote:
>>>> I'm parking my '99 TJ Sport for the winter and would like some advice
>>>> on
>>>> what to do beforehand. Where I live it gets to about -35C with about
>>>> 3-4
>>>> feet of snow cumulative for about a 5-6mth block. Here's what I will be
>>>> doing already:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Taking the tires off and storing them in the shed or outside but
>>>> under
>>>> poly, lying on their sides and stacked (is this recommended?) They are
>>>> 32"
>>>> procomp mud's on chrome rims.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Setting the Jeep on 4 axle stands (any particular spots I should set
>>>> them
>>>> on?). I'll be putting cinder blocks under as well for added security.
>>>> What
>>>> is the recommended method for all of this?
>>>>
>>>> 3. Getting a full car cover and covering the whole thing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've also got neoprene seat covers. Should these be stored inside for
>>>> the
>>>> winter or will they be OK? Any special precautions for my battery,
>>>> winch,
>>>> connections, etc?
>>>>
>>>> What about fluids, gas tank, etc?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>
> --
>
> Monroe

Matt Macchiarolo

Field mice in Michigan love those dryer sheets, they make great nest
insulation. BTDT. :-(

"Monroe" <terra3@wildroseinternet.ca> wrote in message
news:t8kue3perm75rr8kfensjl238tpnc56ed3@4ax.com...
> I'll further that concern with mice. After many attempts at cleaning
> out an engine compartment nest in my GCL, now going to the dealership
> for disassembly of a portion of the compartment to finish removing and
> disinfecting the nest, (likely) extending it further back through
> interior ducts into the air circulation system. All in all, they
> estimate $600 - $800 (about 6 - 8 hours) for the job. Jesus!
>
> For the coming winter, I've taken local advice ranging from placement
> of Irish spring bar soap to "Bounce" laundry sheets at discrete
> locations within the vehicle. That and I won't keep the garage off
> limits for my cats during the winter (despite chilling temps leading
> into the house).
>
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:35:06 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Good advice on plugging the intake and exhaust. I had a mouse build a nest
>>in the transmission case of a Kawasaki Mule once, not pretty. Expect to
>>have
>>to clean out mouse nests from the nooks and crannies under the hood in the
>>spring. A judicial application of mothballs may help.
>>
>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>>news:13erpidop2g6a97@corp.supernews.com...
>>> For that kind of storage I'd suggest:
>>>
>>> Clean oil: do an oil and filter change, run it 100 miles or so to get
>>> things well warmed up and mixed with any of the old oil.
>>>
>>> Check your anti freeze, replace as necessary. Your '99 may not have had
>>> any cooling service, this would be a good time to flush and refill. I
>>> don't have the table in front of me but IIRC you may need to go to 60%
>>> ethelyne glycol instead of the regular 50% mix.
>>>
>>> Make sure the tank is full of gas to minimize condensation. Using
>>> something like Stabil is a good idea but not really necessary for the
>>> reasonably short storage time.
>>>
>>> Tires need to be off the ground and protected from UV (they should not
>>> see
>>> sunlight!). If you are storing outside, by all means take them off.
>>> Horizontal or vertical is fine, just don't store them with weight on the
>>> wheels.
>>>
>>> Jackstands can be on the axles (under the spring mounts) or on the frame
>>> with the springs relaxed. You can go either way, I guess I prefer the
>>> frame to let the springs relax and not sag.
>>>
>>> You can get a maintenance charger for the battery and leave it on all
>>> winter. Something like this:
>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42292
>>> We normally leave the batteries in the vehicle but for that temp it
>>> wouldn't hurt to bring it in to a cool (10 C to 20 C would be good.)
>>> storage area. Store it on a wood base, use the maintenance charger.
>>>
>>> Plug the exhaust loosely with a rag, keeps the rodents out. Ditto for
>>> the
>>> air intake to the engine and the heater/AC
>>>
>>> Make sure the cover is one that is compatible with the paint. The cheap
>>> ones are nylon, the rain/snow/melt will stick it to the paint quite
>>> nicely. I much prefer tenting it with a blue tarp. Put a 2x4 on the
>>> front
>>> and rear bumpers that supports another one about a foot over the top of
>>> the cab, drape the tarp over the top, anchor it down on each side with
>>> another couple of 2x4's.
>>>
>>> griffin wrote:
>>>> I'm parking my '99 TJ Sport for the winter and would like some advice
>>>> on
>>>> what to do beforehand. Where I live it gets to about -35C with about
>>>> 3-4
>>>> feet of snow cumulative for about a 5-6mth block. Here's what I will be
>>>> doing already:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Taking the tires off and storing them in the shed or outside but
>>>> under
>>>> poly, lying on their sides and stacked (is this recommended?) They are
>>>> 32"
>>>> procomp mud's on chrome rims.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Setting the Jeep on 4 axle stands (any particular spots I should set
>>>> them
>>>> on?). I'll be putting cinder blocks under as well for added security.
>>>> What
>>>> is the recommended method for all of this?
>>>>
>>>> 3. Getting a full car cover and covering the whole thing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've also got neoprene seat covers. Should these be stored inside for
>>>> the
>>>> winter or will they be OK? Any special precautions for my battery,
>>>> winch,
>>>> connections, etc?
>>>>
>>>> What about fluids, gas tank, etc?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>
> --
>
> Monroe