P0303 and Coolant
11-26-2006, 06:26 PM
#101
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Re: P0303 and Coolant - Plug types
Didn't Buick buy AC in ... something like 1908?
>>
> Earle go Chevrolet dealer one time with exact plug specification from '85
> Cavalier Owner's Manual that say AC plugs. First cave man Earle talk to
> say
> "Chevrolet never use AC plugs". Second cave man say "That car use
> Champion", try to give Earle plugs with completely different design.
> Earle
> take Owner's Manual to Autozone, get right plugs, AC, just like come in
> car
> from factory. You cave mans see Earle in TV?
>
> Earle
>>
> Earle go Chevrolet dealer one time with exact plug specification from '85
> Cavalier Owner's Manual that say AC plugs. First cave man Earle talk to
> say
> "Chevrolet never use AC plugs". Second cave man say "That car use
> Champion", try to give Earle plugs with completely different design.
> Earle
> take Owner's Manual to Autozone, get right plugs, AC, just like come in
> car
> from factory. You cave mans see Earle in TV?
>
> Earle
11-26-2006, 06:26 PM
#102
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Re: P0303 and Coolant - Plug types
Didn't Buick buy AC in ... something like 1908?
>>
> Earle go Chevrolet dealer one time with exact plug specification from '85
> Cavalier Owner's Manual that say AC plugs. First cave man Earle talk to
> say
> "Chevrolet never use AC plugs". Second cave man say "That car use
> Champion", try to give Earle plugs with completely different design.
> Earle
> take Owner's Manual to Autozone, get right plugs, AC, just like come in
> car
> from factory. You cave mans see Earle in TV?
>
> Earle
>>
> Earle go Chevrolet dealer one time with exact plug specification from '85
> Cavalier Owner's Manual that say AC plugs. First cave man Earle talk to
> say
> "Chevrolet never use AC plugs". Second cave man say "That car use
> Champion", try to give Earle plugs with completely different design.
> Earle
> take Owner's Manual to Autozone, get right plugs, AC, just like come in
> car
> from factory. You cave mans see Earle in TV?
>
> Earle
11-26-2006, 06:26 PM
#103
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Re: P0303 and Coolant - Plug types
Didn't Buick buy AC in ... something like 1908?
>>
> Earle go Chevrolet dealer one time with exact plug specification from '85
> Cavalier Owner's Manual that say AC plugs. First cave man Earle talk to
> say
> "Chevrolet never use AC plugs". Second cave man say "That car use
> Champion", try to give Earle plugs with completely different design.
> Earle
> take Owner's Manual to Autozone, get right plugs, AC, just like come in
> car
> from factory. You cave mans see Earle in TV?
>
> Earle
>>
> Earle go Chevrolet dealer one time with exact plug specification from '85
> Cavalier Owner's Manual that say AC plugs. First cave man Earle talk to
> say
> "Chevrolet never use AC plugs". Second cave man say "That car use
> Champion", try to give Earle plugs with completely different design.
> Earle
> take Owner's Manual to Autozone, get right plugs, AC, just like come in
> car
> from factory. You cave mans see Earle in TV?
>
> Earle
11-26-2006, 06:32 PM
#104
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Re: Code Scanner (was: P0303 and Coolant)
go on ebay and watch wht you come up with
Tomes wrote:
> What defines a _good_ code scanner? This is primary on my list this year.
> I was thinking of the $65-85 one that pretty much reads and clears the codes
> (the one at Autozone, an Actron model). Do I, as someone who can
> fix/replace the simple stuff like brakes but is baffled by carb guts, need
> the more advanced frills?
> Tomes
>
> "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
> news:MZOdnZUMIYl6AvXYnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> > ....... Also, this is a good time to drop hints that you need a good code
> > scanner, since Santa is generous this year.
Tomes wrote:
> What defines a _good_ code scanner? This is primary on my list this year.
> I was thinking of the $65-85 one that pretty much reads and clears the codes
> (the one at Autozone, an Actron model). Do I, as someone who can
> fix/replace the simple stuff like brakes but is baffled by carb guts, need
> the more advanced frills?
> Tomes
>
> "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
> news:MZOdnZUMIYl6AvXYnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> > ....... Also, this is a good time to drop hints that you need a good code
> > scanner, since Santa is generous this year.
11-26-2006, 06:32 PM
#105
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Re: Code Scanner (was: P0303 and Coolant)
go on ebay and watch wht you come up with
Tomes wrote:
> What defines a _good_ code scanner? This is primary on my list this year.
> I was thinking of the $65-85 one that pretty much reads and clears the codes
> (the one at Autozone, an Actron model). Do I, as someone who can
> fix/replace the simple stuff like brakes but is baffled by carb guts, need
> the more advanced frills?
> Tomes
>
> "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
> news:MZOdnZUMIYl6AvXYnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> > ....... Also, this is a good time to drop hints that you need a good code
> > scanner, since Santa is generous this year.
Tomes wrote:
> What defines a _good_ code scanner? This is primary on my list this year.
> I was thinking of the $65-85 one that pretty much reads and clears the codes
> (the one at Autozone, an Actron model). Do I, as someone who can
> fix/replace the simple stuff like brakes but is baffled by carb guts, need
> the more advanced frills?
> Tomes
>
> "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
> news:MZOdnZUMIYl6AvXYnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> > ....... Also, this is a good time to drop hints that you need a good code
> > scanner, since Santa is generous this year.
11-26-2006, 06:32 PM
#106
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Re: Code Scanner (was: P0303 and Coolant)
go on ebay and watch wht you come up with
Tomes wrote:
> What defines a _good_ code scanner? This is primary on my list this year.
> I was thinking of the $65-85 one that pretty much reads and clears the codes
> (the one at Autozone, an Actron model). Do I, as someone who can
> fix/replace the simple stuff like brakes but is baffled by carb guts, need
> the more advanced frills?
> Tomes
>
> "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
> news:MZOdnZUMIYl6AvXYnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> > ....... Also, this is a good time to drop hints that you need a good code
> > scanner, since Santa is generous this year.
Tomes wrote:
> What defines a _good_ code scanner? This is primary on my list this year.
> I was thinking of the $65-85 one that pretty much reads and clears the codes
> (the one at Autozone, an Actron model). Do I, as someone who can
> fix/replace the simple stuff like brakes but is baffled by carb guts, need
> the more advanced frills?
> Tomes
>
> "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
> news:MZOdnZUMIYl6AvXYnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> > ....... Also, this is a good time to drop hints that you need a good code
> > scanner, since Santa is generous this year.
11-26-2006, 06:34 PM
#107
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Re: P0303 and Coolant - Plug types
out of all the casr i work on for misfires, poor running i get, the bosch
platinum plugs are the one that fail the most do not use those if you want to do
it twice
billy ray wrote:
> I've not heard (documented) bad things about the Bosch (Single) Platinum
> plugs which is what I used in my 4 liter XJ and now my WJ and in Mark's 4.7
> but then their technology is over 20 years old now.
>
> I've heard a lot about of negative stuff about the new high tech plugs (+2,
> +4, iridium, Splitfire) including Dave St Louis (Service Manager at
> Belleville Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep.
>
> A fair number of Jeepers dislike the platinums of any type although I don't
> know if that is partially guilt by association with the new high tech
> offerings.
>
> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:Obmah.3493$sf5.112@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> > Do we know why this is? I just put in iridium/platinum plugs in to my
> > Sienna and got a couple more MPG over the original plugs. It is coming up
> > to the time where I will be replacing the plugs on my 2002 TJ. Do we
> > really just go with the standard old Champion coppers? Almost seems
> > cave-man-like today.... <grin>.
> > Tomes
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:9f157$4568bb04$422afc51$4598@FUSE.NET...
> >> ...... The Jeep engines seem to not like the new high tech sparkplugs so
> >> it would probably be best to avoid the +2, +4, & iridium plugs.
> >
> >
platinum plugs are the one that fail the most do not use those if you want to do
it twice
billy ray wrote:
> I've not heard (documented) bad things about the Bosch (Single) Platinum
> plugs which is what I used in my 4 liter XJ and now my WJ and in Mark's 4.7
> but then their technology is over 20 years old now.
>
> I've heard a lot about of negative stuff about the new high tech plugs (+2,
> +4, iridium, Splitfire) including Dave St Louis (Service Manager at
> Belleville Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep.
>
> A fair number of Jeepers dislike the platinums of any type although I don't
> know if that is partially guilt by association with the new high tech
> offerings.
>
> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:Obmah.3493$sf5.112@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> > Do we know why this is? I just put in iridium/platinum plugs in to my
> > Sienna and got a couple more MPG over the original plugs. It is coming up
> > to the time where I will be replacing the plugs on my 2002 TJ. Do we
> > really just go with the standard old Champion coppers? Almost seems
> > cave-man-like today.... <grin>.
> > Tomes
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:9f157$4568bb04$422afc51$4598@FUSE.NET...
> >> ...... The Jeep engines seem to not like the new high tech sparkplugs so
> >> it would probably be best to avoid the +2, +4, & iridium plugs.
> >
> >
11-26-2006, 06:34 PM
#108
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Re: P0303 and Coolant - Plug types
out of all the casr i work on for misfires, poor running i get, the bosch
platinum plugs are the one that fail the most do not use those if you want to do
it twice
billy ray wrote:
> I've not heard (documented) bad things about the Bosch (Single) Platinum
> plugs which is what I used in my 4 liter XJ and now my WJ and in Mark's 4.7
> but then their technology is over 20 years old now.
>
> I've heard a lot about of negative stuff about the new high tech plugs (+2,
> +4, iridium, Splitfire) including Dave St Louis (Service Manager at
> Belleville Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep.
>
> A fair number of Jeepers dislike the platinums of any type although I don't
> know if that is partially guilt by association with the new high tech
> offerings.
>
> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:Obmah.3493$sf5.112@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> > Do we know why this is? I just put in iridium/platinum plugs in to my
> > Sienna and got a couple more MPG over the original plugs. It is coming up
> > to the time where I will be replacing the plugs on my 2002 TJ. Do we
> > really just go with the standard old Champion coppers? Almost seems
> > cave-man-like today.... <grin>.
> > Tomes
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:9f157$4568bb04$422afc51$4598@FUSE.NET...
> >> ...... The Jeep engines seem to not like the new high tech sparkplugs so
> >> it would probably be best to avoid the +2, +4, & iridium plugs.
> >
> >
platinum plugs are the one that fail the most do not use those if you want to do
it twice
billy ray wrote:
> I've not heard (documented) bad things about the Bosch (Single) Platinum
> plugs which is what I used in my 4 liter XJ and now my WJ and in Mark's 4.7
> but then their technology is over 20 years old now.
>
> I've heard a lot about of negative stuff about the new high tech plugs (+2,
> +4, iridium, Splitfire) including Dave St Louis (Service Manager at
> Belleville Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep.
>
> A fair number of Jeepers dislike the platinums of any type although I don't
> know if that is partially guilt by association with the new high tech
> offerings.
>
> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:Obmah.3493$sf5.112@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> > Do we know why this is? I just put in iridium/platinum plugs in to my
> > Sienna and got a couple more MPG over the original plugs. It is coming up
> > to the time where I will be replacing the plugs on my 2002 TJ. Do we
> > really just go with the standard old Champion coppers? Almost seems
> > cave-man-like today.... <grin>.
> > Tomes
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:9f157$4568bb04$422afc51$4598@FUSE.NET...
> >> ...... The Jeep engines seem to not like the new high tech sparkplugs so
> >> it would probably be best to avoid the +2, +4, & iridium plugs.
> >
> >
11-26-2006, 06:34 PM
#109
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Re: P0303 and Coolant - Plug types
out of all the casr i work on for misfires, poor running i get, the bosch
platinum plugs are the one that fail the most do not use those if you want to do
it twice
billy ray wrote:
> I've not heard (documented) bad things about the Bosch (Single) Platinum
> plugs which is what I used in my 4 liter XJ and now my WJ and in Mark's 4.7
> but then their technology is over 20 years old now.
>
> I've heard a lot about of negative stuff about the new high tech plugs (+2,
> +4, iridium, Splitfire) including Dave St Louis (Service Manager at
> Belleville Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep.
>
> A fair number of Jeepers dislike the platinums of any type although I don't
> know if that is partially guilt by association with the new high tech
> offerings.
>
> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:Obmah.3493$sf5.112@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> > Do we know why this is? I just put in iridium/platinum plugs in to my
> > Sienna and got a couple more MPG over the original plugs. It is coming up
> > to the time where I will be replacing the plugs on my 2002 TJ. Do we
> > really just go with the standard old Champion coppers? Almost seems
> > cave-man-like today.... <grin>.
> > Tomes
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:9f157$4568bb04$422afc51$4598@FUSE.NET...
> >> ...... The Jeep engines seem to not like the new high tech sparkplugs so
> >> it would probably be best to avoid the +2, +4, & iridium plugs.
> >
> >
platinum plugs are the one that fail the most do not use those if you want to do
it twice
billy ray wrote:
> I've not heard (documented) bad things about the Bosch (Single) Platinum
> plugs which is what I used in my 4 liter XJ and now my WJ and in Mark's 4.7
> but then their technology is over 20 years old now.
>
> I've heard a lot about of negative stuff about the new high tech plugs (+2,
> +4, iridium, Splitfire) including Dave St Louis (Service Manager at
> Belleville Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep.
>
> A fair number of Jeepers dislike the platinums of any type although I don't
> know if that is partially guilt by association with the new high tech
> offerings.
>
> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:Obmah.3493$sf5.112@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> > Do we know why this is? I just put in iridium/platinum plugs in to my
> > Sienna and got a couple more MPG over the original plugs. It is coming up
> > to the time where I will be replacing the plugs on my 2002 TJ. Do we
> > really just go with the standard old Champion coppers? Almost seems
> > cave-man-like today.... <grin>.
> > Tomes
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:9f157$4568bb04$422afc51$4598@FUSE.NET...
> >> ...... The Jeep engines seem to not like the new high tech sparkplugs so
> >> it would probably be best to avoid the +2, +4, & iridium plugs.
> >
> >
11-26-2006, 06:37 PM
#110
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Re: P0303 and Coolant - Plug types
there is some truth to that and i used to cut the electroid off and gap
them flat acroos the top to expose the spark for a open flame front it
does work
Outatime wrote:
> I once met a guy who was so fanatical about spark plug performance, he
> would actually shim each one (indexing) so that the open end of the
> electrodes faced the intake valve on each cylinder. He swore that he
> gained 10+ hp. from this. I think he's been out in the sun too long.
>
> I've tried every kind of spark plug ever made on a variety of vehicles.
> I've never seen any differenc in either performance or service life
> between any of them.
>
> My preference: Champion Coppers which retail for about $1.39 each, the
> choice of Cavemen everywhere.
them flat acroos the top to expose the spark for a open flame front it
does work
Outatime wrote:
> I once met a guy who was so fanatical about spark plug performance, he
> would actually shim each one (indexing) so that the open end of the
> electrodes faced the intake valve on each cylinder. He swore that he
> gained 10+ hp. from this. I think he's been out in the sun too long.
>
> I've tried every kind of spark plug ever made on a variety of vehicles.
> I've never seen any differenc in either performance or service life
> between any of them.
>
> My preference: Champion Coppers which retail for about $1.39 each, the
> choice of Cavemen everywhere.