L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Get the thermo activated clutch, the centrifugal saves gas, but
will over heat at high revolutions per minute, below forty miles an
hours like we do in the lower gears off road.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

End wrote:
>
> The fan clutch sounds probable, and I will probably flush it too just to be
> safe but the antifreeze in it is only about a year old and still nice and
> green. Maybe it's too strong a mixture and I need more water.I will get a
> bottle of the Redline Water Wetter too just to help out.
>
> I will consider a heavier weight oil also, i'm due for a change now anyway.
> Too bad Wally-World only carries Valvoline full synthetic in 10w30 so i'm
> going to have to go to a 'real' parts store like Auto Zone. (sic)
>
> Shawn
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42DABA77.A58128D2@***.net...
> > Hi Endo,
> > I'd flush your system like you've doing every two years to avoid
> > the electrolysis that'll eat the head gasket, water pump seal, and core
> > plugs. And go ahead and replace the fan clutch.
> > The oil temperature lags behind the water, but eventually catches
> > up, if you had checked it you would have seen it with the constancy of
> > water, with about the same lubricating qualities. If your going to get
> > caught in traffic jams, then switch to 20/40, or 20/50 like I use at
> > three hundred thousand miles. Remember pickups with the trailer package
> > also have oil coolers.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Endo wrote:
> >>
> >> I was idling in traffic on the 4th waiting to get into parking at the new
> >> Heinz Field in Pittsburgh for fireworks and all of a sudden my temp
> >> jumped
> >> up to just below the red and the 'check gauges' light came on. I did a
> >> quick u=turn and got into a non-congested lane and got moving to get some
> >> air flowing and it calmed down to a little over 210, but just a hair
> >> higher
> >> than usual. I was running the a/c on max since i had the top on still.
> >> Shortly after it cooled back down to a more reasonable level I noticed
> >> another strange problem....when I came to a stop the oil pressure would
> >> dive
> >> down to zero and the light would come on again. Once it cooled down for
> >> good after parking for awhile this went away too. It's done it a few
> >> more
> >> times since and it's usually during slow driving with the a/c on. The
> >> oil
> >> level seems fine and it's Valvoline full synthetic 10w30. Coolant is
> >> topped
> >> off and is a nice green color, not nasty stuff.
> >>
> >> Any theories for this happening?
> >>
> >> Shawn

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Get the thermo activated clutch, the centrifugal saves gas, but
will over heat at high revolutions per minute, below forty miles an
hours like we do in the lower gears off road.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

End wrote:
>
> The fan clutch sounds probable, and I will probably flush it too just to be
> safe but the antifreeze in it is only about a year old and still nice and
> green. Maybe it's too strong a mixture and I need more water.I will get a
> bottle of the Redline Water Wetter too just to help out.
>
> I will consider a heavier weight oil also, i'm due for a change now anyway.
> Too bad Wally-World only carries Valvoline full synthetic in 10w30 so i'm
> going to have to go to a 'real' parts store like Auto Zone. (sic)
>
> Shawn
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42DABA77.A58128D2@***.net...
> > Hi Endo,
> > I'd flush your system like you've doing every two years to avoid
> > the electrolysis that'll eat the head gasket, water pump seal, and core
> > plugs. And go ahead and replace the fan clutch.
> > The oil temperature lags behind the water, but eventually catches
> > up, if you had checked it you would have seen it with the constancy of
> > water, with about the same lubricating qualities. If your going to get
> > caught in traffic jams, then switch to 20/40, or 20/50 like I use at
> > three hundred thousand miles. Remember pickups with the trailer package
> > also have oil coolers.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Endo wrote:
> >>
> >> I was idling in traffic on the 4th waiting to get into parking at the new
> >> Heinz Field in Pittsburgh for fireworks and all of a sudden my temp
> >> jumped
> >> up to just below the red and the 'check gauges' light came on. I did a
> >> quick u=turn and got into a non-congested lane and got moving to get some
> >> air flowing and it calmed down to a little over 210, but just a hair
> >> higher
> >> than usual. I was running the a/c on max since i had the top on still.
> >> Shortly after it cooled back down to a more reasonable level I noticed
> >> another strange problem....when I came to a stop the oil pressure would
> >> dive
> >> down to zero and the light would come on again. Once it cooled down for
> >> good after parking for awhile this went away too. It's done it a few
> >> more
> >> times since and it's usually during slow driving with the a/c on. The
> >> oil
> >> level seems fine and it's Valvoline full synthetic 10w30. Coolant is
> >> topped
> >> off and is a nice green color, not nasty stuff.
> >>
> >> Any theories for this happening?
> >>
> >> Shawn

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Get the thermo activated clutch, the centrifugal saves gas, but
will over heat at high revolutions per minute, below forty miles an
hours like we do in the lower gears off road.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

End wrote:
>
> The fan clutch sounds probable, and I will probably flush it too just to be
> safe but the antifreeze in it is only about a year old and still nice and
> green. Maybe it's too strong a mixture and I need more water.I will get a
> bottle of the Redline Water Wetter too just to help out.
>
> I will consider a heavier weight oil also, i'm due for a change now anyway.
> Too bad Wally-World only carries Valvoline full synthetic in 10w30 so i'm
> going to have to go to a 'real' parts store like Auto Zone. (sic)
>
> Shawn
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42DABA77.A58128D2@***.net...
> > Hi Endo,
> > I'd flush your system like you've doing every two years to avoid
> > the electrolysis that'll eat the head gasket, water pump seal, and core
> > plugs. And go ahead and replace the fan clutch.
> > The oil temperature lags behind the water, but eventually catches
> > up, if you had checked it you would have seen it with the constancy of
> > water, with about the same lubricating qualities. If your going to get
> > caught in traffic jams, then switch to 20/40, or 20/50 like I use at
> > three hundred thousand miles. Remember pickups with the trailer package
> > also have oil coolers.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Endo wrote:
> >>
> >> I was idling in traffic on the 4th waiting to get into parking at the new
> >> Heinz Field in Pittsburgh for fireworks and all of a sudden my temp
> >> jumped
> >> up to just below the red and the 'check gauges' light came on. I did a
> >> quick u=turn and got into a non-congested lane and got moving to get some
> >> air flowing and it calmed down to a little over 210, but just a hair
> >> higher
> >> than usual. I was running the a/c on max since i had the top on still.
> >> Shortly after it cooled back down to a more reasonable level I noticed
> >> another strange problem....when I came to a stop the oil pressure would
> >> dive
> >> down to zero and the light would come on again. Once it cooled down for
> >> good after parking for awhile this went away too. It's done it a few
> >> more
> >> times since and it's usually during slow driving with the a/c on. The
> >> oil
> >> level seems fine and it's Valvoline full synthetic 10w30. Coolant is
> >> topped
> >> off and is a nice green color, not nasty stuff.
> >>
> >> Any theories for this happening?
> >>
> >> Shawn

BillyRay

What about a possible water pump problem Bill? He did not mention any
unusual noise but that doesn't always happen.

I would (and did) install one of those $3.99 Flush-N-Fill Kits in the heater
hose. It is remarkable how much junk it can flush out of a motor/radiator.

I would skip the water wetter. DC advises against it.

Make sure you get old fashioned 'American Green" or Zerex G-05 antifreeze
and not the Texaco-GM "Dex-Cool" based formula which have a reputation for
clogging and eating radiators metals.

The concentration should be 50-60% antifreeze in your area. Less offers
little corrosion protection.




"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42DB0CC4.DFD370D1@***.net...
> Get the thermo activated clutch, the centrifugal saves gas, but
> will over heat at high revolutions per minute, below forty miles an
> hours like we do in the lower gears off road.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> End wrote:
>>
>> The fan clutch sounds probable, and I will probably flush it too just to
>> be
>> safe but the antifreeze in it is only about a year old and still nice and
>> green. Maybe it's too strong a mixture and I need more water.I will get
>> a
>> bottle of the Redline Water Wetter too just to help out.
>>
>> I will consider a heavier weight oil also, i'm due for a change now
>> anyway.
>> Too bad Wally-World only carries Valvoline full synthetic in 10w30 so i'm
>> going to have to go to a 'real' parts store like Auto Zone. (sic)
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:42DABA77.A58128D2@***.net...
>> > Hi Endo,
>> > I'd flush your system like you've doing every two years to avoid
>> > the electrolysis that'll eat the head gasket, water pump seal, and core
>> > plugs. And go ahead and replace the fan clutch.
>> > The oil temperature lags behind the water, but eventually catches
>> > up, if you had checked it you would have seen it with the constancy of
>> > water, with about the same lubricating qualities. If your going to get
>> > caught in traffic jams, then switch to 20/40, or 20/50 like I use at
>> > three hundred thousand miles. Remember pickups with the trailer package
>> > also have oil coolers.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Endo wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I was idling in traffic on the 4th waiting to get into parking at the
>> >> new
>> >> Heinz Field in Pittsburgh for fireworks and all of a sudden my temp
>> >> jumped
>> >> up to just below the red and the 'check gauges' light came on. I did
>> >> a
>> >> quick u=turn and got into a non-congested lane and got moving to get
>> >> some
>> >> air flowing and it calmed down to a little over 210, but just a hair
>> >> higher
>> >> than usual. I was running the a/c on max since i had the top on
>> >> still.
>> >> Shortly after it cooled back down to a more reasonable level I noticed
>> >> another strange problem....when I came to a stop the oil pressure
>> >> would
>> >> dive
>> >> down to zero and the light would come on again. Once it cooled down
>> >> for
>> >> good after parking for awhile this went away too. It's done it a few
>> >> more
>> >> times since and it's usually during slow driving with the a/c on. The
>> >> oil
>> >> level seems fine and it's Valvoline full synthetic 10w30. Coolant is
>> >> topped
>> >> off and is a nice green color, not nasty stuff.
>> >>
>> >> Any theories for this happening?
>> >>
>> >> Shawn

BillyRay

What about a possible water pump problem Bill? He did not mention any
unusual noise but that doesn't always happen.

I would (and did) install one of those $3.99 Flush-N-Fill Kits in the heater
hose. It is remarkable how much junk it can flush out of a motor/radiator.

I would skip the water wetter. DC advises against it.

Make sure you get old fashioned 'American Green" or Zerex G-05 antifreeze
and not the Texaco-GM "Dex-Cool" based formula which have a reputation for
clogging and eating radiators metals.

The concentration should be 50-60% antifreeze in your area. Less offers
little corrosion protection.




"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42DB0CC4.DFD370D1@***.net...
> Get the thermo activated clutch, the centrifugal saves gas, but
> will over heat at high revolutions per minute, below forty miles an
> hours like we do in the lower gears off road.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> End wrote:
>>
>> The fan clutch sounds probable, and I will probably flush it too just to
>> be
>> safe but the antifreeze in it is only about a year old and still nice and
>> green. Maybe it's too strong a mixture and I need more water.I will get
>> a
>> bottle of the Redline Water Wetter too just to help out.
>>
>> I will consider a heavier weight oil also, i'm due for a change now
>> anyway.
>> Too bad Wally-World only carries Valvoline full synthetic in 10w30 so i'm
>> going to have to go to a 'real' parts store like Auto Zone. (sic)
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:42DABA77.A58128D2@***.net...
>> > Hi Endo,
>> > I'd flush your system like you've doing every two years to avoid
>> > the electrolysis that'll eat the head gasket, water pump seal, and core
>> > plugs. And go ahead and replace the fan clutch.
>> > The oil temperature lags behind the water, but eventually catches
>> > up, if you had checked it you would have seen it with the constancy of
>> > water, with about the same lubricating qualities. If your going to get
>> > caught in traffic jams, then switch to 20/40, or 20/50 like I use at
>> > three hundred thousand miles. Remember pickups with the trailer package
>> > also have oil coolers.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Endo wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I was idling in traffic on the 4th waiting to get into parking at the
>> >> new
>> >> Heinz Field in Pittsburgh for fireworks and all of a sudden my temp
>> >> jumped
>> >> up to just below the red and the 'check gauges' light came on. I did
>> >> a
>> >> quick u=turn and got into a non-congested lane and got moving to get
>> >> some
>> >> air flowing and it calmed down to a little over 210, but just a hair
>> >> higher
>> >> than usual. I was running the a/c on max since i had the top on
>> >> still.
>> >> Shortly after it cooled back down to a more reasonable level I noticed
>> >> another strange problem....when I came to a stop the oil pressure
>> >> would
>> >> dive
>> >> down to zero and the light would come on again. Once it cooled down
>> >> for
>> >> good after parking for awhile this went away too. It's done it a few
>> >> more
>> >> times since and it's usually during slow driving with the a/c on. The
>> >> oil
>> >> level seems fine and it's Valvoline full synthetic 10w30. Coolant is
>> >> topped
>> >> off and is a nice green color, not nasty stuff.
>> >>
>> >> Any theories for this happening?
>> >>
>> >> Shawn

BillyRay

What about a possible water pump problem Bill? He did not mention any
unusual noise but that doesn't always happen.

I would (and did) install one of those $3.99 Flush-N-Fill Kits in the heater
hose. It is remarkable how much junk it can flush out of a motor/radiator.

I would skip the water wetter. DC advises against it.

Make sure you get old fashioned 'American Green" or Zerex G-05 antifreeze
and not the Texaco-GM "Dex-Cool" based formula which have a reputation for
clogging and eating radiators metals.

The concentration should be 50-60% antifreeze in your area. Less offers
little corrosion protection.




"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42DB0CC4.DFD370D1@***.net...
> Get the thermo activated clutch, the centrifugal saves gas, but
> will over heat at high revolutions per minute, below forty miles an
> hours like we do in the lower gears off road.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> End wrote:
>>
>> The fan clutch sounds probable, and I will probably flush it too just to
>> be
>> safe but the antifreeze in it is only about a year old and still nice and
>> green. Maybe it's too strong a mixture and I need more water.I will get
>> a
>> bottle of the Redline Water Wetter too just to help out.
>>
>> I will consider a heavier weight oil also, i'm due for a change now
>> anyway.
>> Too bad Wally-World only carries Valvoline full synthetic in 10w30 so i'm
>> going to have to go to a 'real' parts store like Auto Zone. (sic)
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:42DABA77.A58128D2@***.net...
>> > Hi Endo,
>> > I'd flush your system like you've doing every two years to avoid
>> > the electrolysis that'll eat the head gasket, water pump seal, and core
>> > plugs. And go ahead and replace the fan clutch.
>> > The oil temperature lags behind the water, but eventually catches
>> > up, if you had checked it you would have seen it with the constancy of
>> > water, with about the same lubricating qualities. If your going to get
>> > caught in traffic jams, then switch to 20/40, or 20/50 like I use at
>> > three hundred thousand miles. Remember pickups with the trailer package
>> > also have oil coolers.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Endo wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I was idling in traffic on the 4th waiting to get into parking at the
>> >> new
>> >> Heinz Field in Pittsburgh for fireworks and all of a sudden my temp
>> >> jumped
>> >> up to just below the red and the 'check gauges' light came on. I did
>> >> a
>> >> quick u=turn and got into a non-congested lane and got moving to get
>> >> some
>> >> air flowing and it calmed down to a little over 210, but just a hair
>> >> higher
>> >> than usual. I was running the a/c on max since i had the top on
>> >> still.
>> >> Shortly after it cooled back down to a more reasonable level I noticed
>> >> another strange problem....when I came to a stop the oil pressure
>> >> would
>> >> dive
>> >> down to zero and the light would come on again. Once it cooled down
>> >> for
>> >> good after parking for awhile this went away too. It's done it a few
>> >> more
>> >> times since and it's usually during slow driving with the a/c on. The
>> >> oil
>> >> level seems fine and it's Valvoline full synthetic 10w30. Coolant is
>> >> topped
>> >> off and is a nice green color, not nasty stuff.
>> >>
>> >> Any theories for this happening?
>> >>
>> >> Shawn

BillyRay

What about a possible water pump problem Bill? He did not mention any
unusual noise but that doesn't always happen.

I would (and did) install one of those $3.99 Flush-N-Fill Kits in the heater
hose. It is remarkable how much junk it can flush out of a motor/radiator.

I would skip the water wetter. DC advises against it.

Make sure you get old fashioned 'American Green" or Zerex G-05 antifreeze
and not the Texaco-GM "Dex-Cool" based formula which have a reputation for
clogging and eating radiators metals.

The concentration should be 50-60% antifreeze in your area. Less offers
little corrosion protection.




"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42DB0CC4.DFD370D1@***.net...
> Get the thermo activated clutch, the centrifugal saves gas, but
> will over heat at high revolutions per minute, below forty miles an
> hours like we do in the lower gears off road.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> End wrote:
>>
>> The fan clutch sounds probable, and I will probably flush it too just to
>> be
>> safe but the antifreeze in it is only about a year old and still nice and
>> green. Maybe it's too strong a mixture and I need more water.I will get
>> a
>> bottle of the Redline Water Wetter too just to help out.
>>
>> I will consider a heavier weight oil also, i'm due for a change now
>> anyway.
>> Too bad Wally-World only carries Valvoline full synthetic in 10w30 so i'm
>> going to have to go to a 'real' parts store like Auto Zone. (sic)
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:42DABA77.A58128D2@***.net...
>> > Hi Endo,
>> > I'd flush your system like you've doing every two years to avoid
>> > the electrolysis that'll eat the head gasket, water pump seal, and core
>> > plugs. And go ahead and replace the fan clutch.
>> > The oil temperature lags behind the water, but eventually catches
>> > up, if you had checked it you would have seen it with the constancy of
>> > water, with about the same lubricating qualities. If your going to get
>> > caught in traffic jams, then switch to 20/40, or 20/50 like I use at
>> > three hundred thousand miles. Remember pickups with the trailer package
>> > also have oil coolers.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Endo wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I was idling in traffic on the 4th waiting to get into parking at the
>> >> new
>> >> Heinz Field in Pittsburgh for fireworks and all of a sudden my temp
>> >> jumped
>> >> up to just below the red and the 'check gauges' light came on. I did
>> >> a
>> >> quick u=turn and got into a non-congested lane and got moving to get
>> >> some
>> >> air flowing and it calmed down to a little over 210, but just a hair
>> >> higher
>> >> than usual. I was running the a/c on max since i had the top on
>> >> still.
>> >> Shortly after it cooled back down to a more reasonable level I noticed
>> >> another strange problem....when I came to a stop the oil pressure
>> >> would
>> >> dive
>> >> down to zero and the light would come on again. Once it cooled down
>> >> for
>> >> good after parking for awhile this went away too. It's done it a few
>> >> more
>> >> times since and it's usually during slow driving with the a/c on. The
>> >> oil
>> >> level seems fine and it's Valvoline full synthetic 10w30. Coolant is
>> >> topped
>> >> off and is a nice green color, not nasty stuff.
>> >>
>> >> Any theories for this happening?
>> >>
>> >> Shawn

Endo

No strange noises so far. Seems like this is only a problem when the A/C is
on and i'm idling in park or moving at very slow speeds. I can and have
cooled it down by increasing RPMs while sitting still in park. It has been
the hottest it's been here all summer recently. It's been 85F or higher and
while I know that's nothing compared to Arizona or Florida it is damn hot to
us temperate climate people.

I'm curious to the reason DC doesn't like the water wetter. I never heard
anyone refer to it before.

And yes I am staying a far and wide path around the Dex-Cool stuff. I used
that once on a car and regretted it dearly. I might as well have filled the
f-ing thing with battery acid for all the damage it caused. My '99 Merc.
Cougar came factory with it, so I left it alone. Maybe thats the key,
unless it's put in at the factory never try to use it.

And yes I usually run 50%, but with the color of it now i'm worried it may
be a lot higher percentage of antifreeze than water. Hose water is good to
flush with but does anyone prefer distilled water to fill with?

Oh, and lastly I wonder if I have a sticking thermostat or maybe a bad
radiator cap? I heard one noise that I think was the rad. cap letting go
when it overheated once...

Shawn


"BillyRay" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:e0a45$42db19a6$4831337f$17188@FUSE.NET...
> What about a possible water pump problem Bill? He did not mention any
> unusual noise but that doesn't always happen.
>
> I would (and did) install one of those $3.99 Flush-N-Fill Kits in the
> heater hose. It is remarkable how much junk it can flush out of a
> motor/radiator.
>
> I would skip the water wetter. DC advises against it.
>
> Make sure you get old fashioned 'American Green" or Zerex G-05 antifreeze
> and not the Texaco-GM "Dex-Cool" based formula which have a reputation for
> clogging and eating radiators metals.
>
> The concentration should be 50-60% antifreeze in your area. Less offers
> little corrosion protection.
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42DB0CC4.DFD370D1@***.net...
>> Get the thermo activated clutch, the centrifugal saves gas, but
>> will over heat at high revolutions per minute, below forty miles an
>> hours like we do in the lower gears off road.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> End wrote:
>>>
>>> The fan clutch sounds probable, and I will probably flush it too just to
>>> be
>>> safe but the antifreeze in it is only about a year old and still nice
>>> and
>>> green. Maybe it's too strong a mixture and I need more water.I will get
>>> a
>>> bottle of the Redline Water Wetter too just to help out.
>>>
>>> I will consider a heavier weight oil also, i'm due for a change now
>>> anyway.
>>> Too bad Wally-World only carries Valvoline full synthetic in 10w30 so
>>> i'm
>>> going to have to go to a 'real' parts store like Auto Zone. (sic)
>>>
>>> Shawn
>>>
>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:42DABA77.A58128D2@***.net...
>>> > Hi Endo,
>>> > I'd flush your system like you've doing every two years to avoid
>>> > the electrolysis that'll eat the head gasket, water pump seal, and
>>> > core
>>> > plugs. And go ahead and replace the fan clutch.
>>> > The oil temperature lags behind the water, but eventually catches
>>> > up, if you had checked it you would have seen it with the constancy of
>>> > water, with about the same lubricating qualities. If your going to get
>>> > caught in traffic jams, then switch to 20/40, or 20/50 like I use at
>>> > three hundred thousand miles. Remember pickups with the trailer
>>> > package
>>> > also have oil coolers.
>>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >
>>> > Endo wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I was idling in traffic on the 4th waiting to get into parking at the
>>> >> new
>>> >> Heinz Field in Pittsburgh for fireworks and all of a sudden my temp
>>> >> jumped
>>> >> up to just below the red and the 'check gauges' light came on. I did
>>> >> a
>>> >> quick u=turn and got into a non-congested lane and got moving to get
>>> >> some
>>> >> air flowing and it calmed down to a little over 210, but just a hair
>>> >> higher
>>> >> than usual. I was running the a/c on max since i had the top on
>>> >> still.
>>> >> Shortly after it cooled back down to a more reasonable level I
>>> >> noticed
>>> >> another strange problem....when I came to a stop the oil pressure
>>> >> would
>>> >> dive
>>> >> down to zero and the light would come on again. Once it cooled down
>>> >> for
>>> >> good after parking for awhile this went away too. It's done it a few
>>> >> more
>>> >> times since and it's usually during slow driving with the a/c on.
>>> >> The
>>> >> oil
>>> >> level seems fine and it's Valvoline full synthetic 10w30. Coolant is
>>> >> topped
>>> >> off and is a nice green color, not nasty stuff.
>>> >>
>>> >> Any theories for this happening?
>>> >>
>>> >> Shawn
>
>

Endo

No strange noises so far. Seems like this is only a problem when the A/C is
on and i'm idling in park or moving at very slow speeds. I can and have
cooled it down by increasing RPMs while sitting still in park. It has been
the hottest it's been here all summer recently. It's been 85F or higher and
while I know that's nothing compared to Arizona or Florida it is damn hot to
us temperate climate people.

I'm curious to the reason DC doesn't like the water wetter. I never heard
anyone refer to it before.

And yes I am staying a far and wide path around the Dex-Cool stuff. I used
that once on a car and regretted it dearly. I might as well have filled the
f-ing thing with battery acid for all the damage it caused. My '99 Merc.
Cougar came factory with it, so I left it alone. Maybe thats the key,
unless it's put in at the factory never try to use it.

And yes I usually run 50%, but with the color of it now i'm worried it may
be a lot higher percentage of antifreeze than water. Hose water is good to
flush with but does anyone prefer distilled water to fill with?

Oh, and lastly I wonder if I have a sticking thermostat or maybe a bad
radiator cap? I heard one noise that I think was the rad. cap letting go
when it overheated once...

Shawn


"BillyRay" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:e0a45$42db19a6$4831337f$17188@FUSE.NET...
> What about a possible water pump problem Bill? He did not mention any
> unusual noise but that doesn't always happen.
>
> I would (and did) install one of those $3.99 Flush-N-Fill Kits in the
> heater hose. It is remarkable how much junk it can flush out of a
> motor/radiator.
>
> I would skip the water wetter. DC advises against it.
>
> Make sure you get old fashioned 'American Green" or Zerex G-05 antifreeze
> and not the Texaco-GM "Dex-Cool" based formula which have a reputation for
> clogging and eating radiators metals.
>
> The concentration should be 50-60% antifreeze in your area. Less offers
> little corrosion protection.
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42DB0CC4.DFD370D1@***.net...
>> Get the thermo activated clutch, the centrifugal saves gas, but
>> will over heat at high revolutions per minute, below forty miles an
>> hours like we do in the lower gears off road.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> End wrote:
>>>
>>> The fan clutch sounds probable, and I will probably flush it too just to
>>> be
>>> safe but the antifreeze in it is only about a year old and still nice
>>> and
>>> green. Maybe it's too strong a mixture and I need more water.I will get
>>> a
>>> bottle of the Redline Water Wetter too just to help out.
>>>
>>> I will consider a heavier weight oil also, i'm due for a change now
>>> anyway.
>>> Too bad Wally-World only carries Valvoline full synthetic in 10w30 so
>>> i'm
>>> going to have to go to a 'real' parts store like Auto Zone. (sic)
>>>
>>> Shawn
>>>
>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:42DABA77.A58128D2@***.net...
>>> > Hi Endo,
>>> > I'd flush your system like you've doing every two years to avoid
>>> > the electrolysis that'll eat the head gasket, water pump seal, and
>>> > core
>>> > plugs. And go ahead and replace the fan clutch.
>>> > The oil temperature lags behind the water, but eventually catches
>>> > up, if you had checked it you would have seen it with the constancy of
>>> > water, with about the same lubricating qualities. If your going to get
>>> > caught in traffic jams, then switch to 20/40, or 20/50 like I use at
>>> > three hundred thousand miles. Remember pickups with the trailer
>>> > package
>>> > also have oil coolers.
>>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >
>>> > Endo wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I was idling in traffic on the 4th waiting to get into parking at the
>>> >> new
>>> >> Heinz Field in Pittsburgh for fireworks and all of a sudden my temp
>>> >> jumped
>>> >> up to just below the red and the 'check gauges' light came on. I did
>>> >> a
>>> >> quick u=turn and got into a non-congested lane and got moving to get
>>> >> some
>>> >> air flowing and it calmed down to a little over 210, but just a hair
>>> >> higher
>>> >> than usual. I was running the a/c on max since i had the top on
>>> >> still.
>>> >> Shortly after it cooled back down to a more reasonable level I
>>> >> noticed
>>> >> another strange problem....when I came to a stop the oil pressure
>>> >> would
>>> >> dive
>>> >> down to zero and the light would come on again. Once it cooled down
>>> >> for
>>> >> good after parking for awhile this went away too. It's done it a few
>>> >> more
>>> >> times since and it's usually during slow driving with the a/c on.
>>> >> The
>>> >> oil
>>> >> level seems fine and it's Valvoline full synthetic 10w30. Coolant is
>>> >> topped
>>> >> off and is a nice green color, not nasty stuff.
>>> >>
>>> >> Any theories for this happening?
>>> >>
>>> >> Shawn
>
>

Endo

No strange noises so far. Seems like this is only a problem when the A/C is
on and i'm idling in park or moving at very slow speeds. I can and have
cooled it down by increasing RPMs while sitting still in park. It has been
the hottest it's been here all summer recently. It's been 85F or higher and
while I know that's nothing compared to Arizona or Florida it is damn hot to
us temperate climate people.

I'm curious to the reason DC doesn't like the water wetter. I never heard
anyone refer to it before.

And yes I am staying a far and wide path around the Dex-Cool stuff. I used
that once on a car and regretted it dearly. I might as well have filled the
f-ing thing with battery acid for all the damage it caused. My '99 Merc.
Cougar came factory with it, so I left it alone. Maybe thats the key,
unless it's put in at the factory never try to use it.

And yes I usually run 50%, but with the color of it now i'm worried it may
be a lot higher percentage of antifreeze than water. Hose water is good to
flush with but does anyone prefer distilled water to fill with?

Oh, and lastly I wonder if I have a sticking thermostat or maybe a bad
radiator cap? I heard one noise that I think was the rad. cap letting go
when it overheated once...

Shawn


"BillyRay" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:e0a45$42db19a6$4831337f$17188@FUSE.NET...
> What about a possible water pump problem Bill? He did not mention any
> unusual noise but that doesn't always happen.
>
> I would (and did) install one of those $3.99 Flush-N-Fill Kits in the
> heater hose. It is remarkable how much junk it can flush out of a
> motor/radiator.
>
> I would skip the water wetter. DC advises against it.
>
> Make sure you get old fashioned 'American Green" or Zerex G-05 antifreeze
> and not the Texaco-GM "Dex-Cool" based formula which have a reputation for
> clogging and eating radiators metals.
>
> The concentration should be 50-60% antifreeze in your area. Less offers
> little corrosion protection.
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42DB0CC4.DFD370D1@***.net...
>> Get the thermo activated clutch, the centrifugal saves gas, but
>> will over heat at high revolutions per minute, below forty miles an
>> hours like we do in the lower gears off road.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> End wrote:
>>>
>>> The fan clutch sounds probable, and I will probably flush it too just to
>>> be
>>> safe but the antifreeze in it is only about a year old and still nice
>>> and
>>> green. Maybe it's too strong a mixture and I need more water.I will get
>>> a
>>> bottle of the Redline Water Wetter too just to help out.
>>>
>>> I will consider a heavier weight oil also, i'm due for a change now
>>> anyway.
>>> Too bad Wally-World only carries Valvoline full synthetic in 10w30 so
>>> i'm
>>> going to have to go to a 'real' parts store like Auto Zone. (sic)
>>>
>>> Shawn
>>>
>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:42DABA77.A58128D2@***.net...
>>> > Hi Endo,
>>> > I'd flush your system like you've doing every two years to avoid
>>> > the electrolysis that'll eat the head gasket, water pump seal, and
>>> > core
>>> > plugs. And go ahead and replace the fan clutch.
>>> > The oil temperature lags behind the water, but eventually catches
>>> > up, if you had checked it you would have seen it with the constancy of
>>> > water, with about the same lubricating qualities. If your going to get
>>> > caught in traffic jams, then switch to 20/40, or 20/50 like I use at
>>> > three hundred thousand miles. Remember pickups with the trailer
>>> > package
>>> > also have oil coolers.
>>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >
>>> > Endo wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I was idling in traffic on the 4th waiting to get into parking at the
>>> >> new
>>> >> Heinz Field in Pittsburgh for fireworks and all of a sudden my temp
>>> >> jumped
>>> >> up to just below the red and the 'check gauges' light came on. I did
>>> >> a
>>> >> quick u=turn and got into a non-congested lane and got moving to get
>>> >> some
>>> >> air flowing and it calmed down to a little over 210, but just a hair
>>> >> higher
>>> >> than usual. I was running the a/c on max since i had the top on
>>> >> still.
>>> >> Shortly after it cooled back down to a more reasonable level I
>>> >> noticed
>>> >> another strange problem....when I came to a stop the oil pressure
>>> >> would
>>> >> dive
>>> >> down to zero and the light would come on again. Once it cooled down
>>> >> for
>>> >> good after parking for awhile this went away too. It's done it a few
>>> >> more
>>> >> times since and it's usually during slow driving with the a/c on.
>>> >> The
>>> >> oil
>>> >> level seems fine and it's Valvoline full synthetic 10w30. Coolant is
>>> >> topped
>>> >> off and is a nice green color, not nasty stuff.
>>> >>
>>> >> Any theories for this happening?
>>> >>
>>> >> Shawn
>
>