Mike Romain

Only the valve cover bolts...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> I don't even own an inch-lbs. torque wrench, both my 3/8" and 1/2" torque
> wrenches are both calibrated in ft-lbs. I have worked on nothing in a Jeep
> that needs to be tightened in inch-lbs. increments.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:G6U7b.48536$Qy4.47430@fed1read05...
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:bjp27k$l2mm0$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Hey, you're right. One is in Inch Pounds and the other is in Foot
> Pounds.
> > >
> > > When do you use the Inch Pounds wrench?
> > >
> > > I believe I used the Foot Pounds wrench for all my torquing. This
> > includes
> > > the Intake/Exhaust Manifold, The valve bridge, and the Harmonic
> Balancer.
> >
> > Lucky guess eh? :) Well, an inch-lbs. torque wrench is just used for much
> > smaller hardware that can't take a lot of torque yet they must be
> tightened
> > evenly or precisely. Though this may seem like a no-brainer, 144 inch-lbs
> =
> > 12 ft-lbs... and 12 inch-lbs = 1 ft-lb. Just so no one thinks there is
> > anything tricky about it. :)
> >
> > Jerry
> > >
> > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:LTT7b.48534$Qy4.5359@fed1read05...
> > > > Are you sure that the smaller torque wrench isn't calibrated in
> inch-lbs
> > > and
> > > > not ft-lbs?
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > > --
> > > > Jerry Bransford
> > > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > > >
> > > > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:bjp1fd$l9ddp$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have two torque wrenches, one which has a much higher increment
> > > range
> > > > > than the other. When I first torqued my Harmonic Balancer down to
> 120
> > > > > pounds I used the lower increment wrench. Then I loosened it up to
> do
> > > > > something else and when I torqued it down again I used the higher
> > > > increment
> > > > > wrench. When I used the higher increment wrench it seemed like it
> > took
> > > a
> > > > > lot more force to reach 120 pounds. In fact, I don't believe I
> > actually
> > > > > made it to 120. When I did it with the lower increment wrench I did
> > get
> > > > it
> > > > > to 120 with ease.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm afraid I have over torqued the Harmonic Balancer Bolt (to the
> > > crank).
> > > > > My question is what are the ramifications of over torquing a bolt or
> > > under
> > > > > torquing a bolt. I'm guessing it's better to under torque than over
> > > > torque.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance for any comments or suggestions,
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Transmission band adjustment is the only place I'd bother to use an
inch-pound wrench.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Only the valve cover bolts...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Transmission band adjustment is the only place I'd bother to use an
inch-pound wrench.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Only the valve cover bolts...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Will Honea

If you can strip the bolt in the end of the crank that holds the
harmonic balancer on I want you on my side in a brawl! That sucker is
a serious hunk of steel - 120 ft-lbs sounds about right.

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:26:08 UTC "Dave Milne"
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:

> Under torquing - it comes loose.
> Over torquing - it stretches and may strip or snap.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:bjp1fd$l9ddp$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> : Hi all,
> : I'm afraid I have over torqued the Harmonic Balancer Bolt (to the crank).
> : My question is what are the ramifications of over torquing a bolt or under
> : torquing a bolt. I'm guessing it's better to under torque than over
> torque.
>
>


--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Will Honea

If you can strip the bolt in the end of the crank that holds the
harmonic balancer on I want you on my side in a brawl! That sucker is
a serious hunk of steel - 120 ft-lbs sounds about right.

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:26:08 UTC "Dave Milne"
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:

> Under torquing - it comes loose.
> Over torquing - it stretches and may strip or snap.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:bjp1fd$l9ddp$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> : Hi all,
> : I'm afraid I have over torqued the Harmonic Balancer Bolt (to the crank).
> : My question is what are the ramifications of over torquing a bolt or under
> : torquing a bolt. I'm guessing it's better to under torque than over
> torque.
>
>


--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Jerry Bransford

"reconair" <reconair@staffnet.com> wrote in message
news:vm28tt89q5jt30@corp.supernews.com...
> How bout valve cover bolts?

I use my finely honed sense of what a "good tightness" is for valve cover
bolts. A 1/4" drive makes that task an easy one.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/



> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:79U7b.48537$Qy4.21829@fed1read05...
> > I don't even own an inch-lbs. torque wrench, both my 3/8" and 1/2"
torque
> > wrenches are both calibrated in ft-lbs. I have worked on nothing in a
> Jeep
> > that needs to be tightened in inch-lbs. increments.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:G6U7b.48536$Qy4.47430@fed1read05...
> > >
> > > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > > news:bjp27k$l2mm0$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > Hey, you're right. One is in Inch Pounds and the other is in Foot
> > Pounds.
> > > >
> > > > When do you use the Inch Pounds wrench?
> > > >
> > > > I believe I used the Foot Pounds wrench for all my torquing. This
> > > includes
> > > > the Intake/Exhaust Manifold, The valve bridge, and the Harmonic
> > Balancer.
> > >
> > > Lucky guess eh? :) Well, an inch-lbs. torque wrench is just used for
> much
> > > smaller hardware that can't take a lot of torque yet they must be
> > tightened
> > > evenly or precisely. Though this may seem like a no-brainer, 144
> inch-lbs
> > =
> > > 12 ft-lbs... and 12 inch-lbs = 1 ft-lb. Just so no one thinks there
is
> > > anything tricky about it. :)
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > >
> > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:LTT7b.48534$Qy4.5359@fed1read05...
> > > > > Are you sure that the smaller torque wrench isn't calibrated in
> > inch-lbs
> > > > and
> > > > > not ft-lbs?
> > > > >
> > > > > Jerry
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jerry Bransford
> > > > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > > > >
> > > > > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:bjp1fd$l9ddp$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have two torque wrenches, one which has a much higher
> increment
> > > > range
> > > > > > than the other. When I first torqued my Harmonic Balancer down
to
> > 120
> > > > > > pounds I used the lower increment wrench. Then I loosened it up
> to
> > do
> > > > > > something else and when I torqued it down again I used the
higher
> > > > > increment
> > > > > > wrench. When I used the higher increment wrench it seemed like
it
> > > took
> > > > a
> > > > > > lot more force to reach 120 pounds. In fact, I don't believe I
> > > actually
> > > > > > made it to 120. When I did it with the lower increment wrench I
> did
> > > get
> > > > > it
> > > > > > to 120 with ease.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm afraid I have over torqued the Harmonic Balancer Bolt (to
the
> > > > crank).
> > > > > > My question is what are the ramifications of over torquing a
bolt
> or
> > > > under
> > > > > > torquing a bolt. I'm guessing it's better to under torque than
> over
> > > > > torque.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance for any comments or suggestions,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Jerry Bransford

"reconair" <reconair@staffnet.com> wrote in message
news:vm28tt89q5jt30@corp.supernews.com...
> How bout valve cover bolts?

I use my finely honed sense of what a "good tightness" is for valve cover
bolts. A 1/4" drive makes that task an easy one.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/



> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:79U7b.48537$Qy4.21829@fed1read05...
> > I don't even own an inch-lbs. torque wrench, both my 3/8" and 1/2"
torque
> > wrenches are both calibrated in ft-lbs. I have worked on nothing in a
> Jeep
> > that needs to be tightened in inch-lbs. increments.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:G6U7b.48536$Qy4.47430@fed1read05...
> > >
> > > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > > news:bjp27k$l2mm0$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > Hey, you're right. One is in Inch Pounds and the other is in Foot
> > Pounds.
> > > >
> > > > When do you use the Inch Pounds wrench?
> > > >
> > > > I believe I used the Foot Pounds wrench for all my torquing. This
> > > includes
> > > > the Intake/Exhaust Manifold, The valve bridge, and the Harmonic
> > Balancer.
> > >
> > > Lucky guess eh? :) Well, an inch-lbs. torque wrench is just used for
> much
> > > smaller hardware that can't take a lot of torque yet they must be
> > tightened
> > > evenly or precisely. Though this may seem like a no-brainer, 144
> inch-lbs
> > =
> > > 12 ft-lbs... and 12 inch-lbs = 1 ft-lb. Just so no one thinks there
is
> > > anything tricky about it. :)
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > >
> > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:LTT7b.48534$Qy4.5359@fed1read05...
> > > > > Are you sure that the smaller torque wrench isn't calibrated in
> > inch-lbs
> > > > and
> > > > > not ft-lbs?
> > > > >
> > > > > Jerry
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jerry Bransford
> > > > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > > > >
> > > > > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:bjp1fd$l9ddp$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have two torque wrenches, one which has a much higher
> increment
> > > > range
> > > > > > than the other. When I first torqued my Harmonic Balancer down
to
> > 120
> > > > > > pounds I used the lower increment wrench. Then I loosened it up
> to
> > do
> > > > > > something else and when I torqued it down again I used the
higher
> > > > > increment
> > > > > > wrench. When I used the higher increment wrench it seemed like
it
> > > took
> > > > a
> > > > > > lot more force to reach 120 pounds. In fact, I don't believe I
> > > actually
> > > > > > made it to 120. When I did it with the lower increment wrench I
> did
> > > get
> > > > > it
> > > > > > to 120 with ease.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm afraid I have over torqued the Harmonic Balancer Bolt (to
the
> > > > crank).
> > > > > > My question is what are the ramifications of over torquing a
bolt
> or
> > > > under
> > > > > > torquing a bolt. I'm guessing it's better to under torque than
> over
> > > > > torque.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance for any comments or suggestions,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Dave Milne

true, can't see anyone stripping that, and the torque wrench wouldn't go up
high enough.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-XZZlF6pi0upJ@anon.none.net...
: If you can strip the bolt in the end of the crank that holds the
: harmonic balancer on I want you on my side in a brawl! That sucker is
: a serious hunk of steel - 120 ft-lbs sounds about right.
:
: On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:26:08 UTC "Dave Milne"
: <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
:
: > Under torquing - it comes loose.
: > Over torquing - it stretches and may strip or snap.
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
: > news:bjp1fd$l9ddp$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
: > : Hi all,
: > : I'm afraid I have over torqued the Harmonic Balancer Bolt (to the
crank).
: > : My question is what are the ramifications of over torquing a bolt or
under
: > : torquing a bolt. I'm guessing it's better to under torque than over
: > torque.
: >
: >
:
:
: --
: Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Dave Milne

true, can't see anyone stripping that, and the torque wrench wouldn't go up
high enough.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-XZZlF6pi0upJ@anon.none.net...
: If you can strip the bolt in the end of the crank that holds the
: harmonic balancer on I want you on my side in a brawl! That sucker is
: a serious hunk of steel - 120 ft-lbs sounds about right.
:
: On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:26:08 UTC "Dave Milne"
: <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
:
: > Under torquing - it comes loose.
: > Over torquing - it stretches and may strip or snap.
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
: > news:bjp1fd$l9ddp$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
: > : Hi all,
: > : I'm afraid I have over torqued the Harmonic Balancer Bolt (to the
crank).
: > : My question is what are the ramifications of over torquing a bolt or
under
: > : torquing a bolt. I'm guessing it's better to under torque than over
: > torque.
: >
: >
:
:
: --
: Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Oliver

Valve cover bolts = 1 white knuckle
Lug nuts = 2 white knuckles
Harmonic dampener = 3 white knuckles
Track bar = 4 whi.. er.. oh my God it's gonna sli... f#@*!!!