GW De Lacey

On 25 Apr 2004 19:41:03 GMT, Wblane wrote:

>I've been reading: A History of the Korean War: Pusan to Chosin. Anyway, in the
>organizational chart for the US Army of that day they mention a Pioneer &
>Ammunition company, which is normally attached to the headquarters company of
>an infantry battalion of the US Army. What does a Pioneer & Ammunition company
>do? Does the US Army still have Pioneer & Ammunition companys today? Also, does
>the US Army still use Regimental Combat Teams anymore?

In the Australian Army the Pioneers were (still are?) the people who
prepared the garrison areas (latrines, tentage, cooking areas) and
cleaned up when the troops left (first in, last out). Pioneer
Companies and platoons were important assets, but individuals in these
units were basically derided (who wants to know someone who looks
after the latrines?), and membership was not much sought after. The
Pioneers were responsible for the preparation and distribution of
ammunition in their spare time.

Maybe the US Army was similar?

I don't know much about regimental combat teams.

--
GW De Lacey

Lee Ayrton

It looks like the Ammunition and Pioneer platoons were, during WWII at
least, just what the name suggests: Ammunition bearers and light military
engineers.

Keyword search for _pioneer platoon_ each of the following documents for
descriptions of the platoon's function:

<URL:http://www.trailblazersww2.org/replacements.htm>

<URL:http://www.6juin1944.com/veterans/hooper.php>

<URL:http://home.twcny.rr.com/cod324th/private.htm>



On Sun, 25 Apr 2004, Wblane wrote:

> I've been reading: A History of the Korean War: Pusan to Chosin. Anyway, in the
> organizational chart for the US Army of that day they mention a Pioneer &
> Ammunition company, which is normally attached to the headquarters company of
> an infantry battalion of the US Army. What does a Pioneer & Ammunition company
> do? Does the US Army still have Pioneer & Ammunition companys today? Also, does
> the US Army still use Regimental Combat Teams anymore?
> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
>

Lee Ayrton

It looks like the Ammunition and Pioneer platoons were, during WWII at
least, just what the name suggests: Ammunition bearers and light military
engineers.

Keyword search for _pioneer platoon_ each of the following documents for
descriptions of the platoon's function:

<URL:http://www.trailblazersww2.org/replacements.htm>

<URL:http://www.6juin1944.com/veterans/hooper.php>

<URL:http://home.twcny.rr.com/cod324th/private.htm>



On Sun, 25 Apr 2004, Wblane wrote:

> I've been reading: A History of the Korean War: Pusan to Chosin. Anyway, in the
> organizational chart for the US Army of that day they mention a Pioneer &
> Ammunition company, which is normally attached to the headquarters company of
> an infantry battalion of the US Army. What does a Pioneer & Ammunition company
> do? Does the US Army still have Pioneer & Ammunition companys today? Also, does
> the US Army still use Regimental Combat Teams anymore?
> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
>

Lee Ayrton

It looks like the Ammunition and Pioneer platoons were, during WWII at
least, just what the name suggests: Ammunition bearers and light military
engineers.

Keyword search for _pioneer platoon_ each of the following documents for
descriptions of the platoon's function:

<URL:http://www.trailblazersww2.org/replacements.htm>

<URL:http://www.6juin1944.com/veterans/hooper.php>

<URL:http://home.twcny.rr.com/cod324th/private.htm>



On Sun, 25 Apr 2004, Wblane wrote:

> I've been reading: A History of the Korean War: Pusan to Chosin. Anyway, in the
> organizational chart for the US Army of that day they mention a Pioneer &
> Ammunition company, which is normally attached to the headquarters company of
> an infantry battalion of the US Army. What does a Pioneer & Ammunition company
> do? Does the US Army still have Pioneer & Ammunition companys today? Also, does
> the US Army still use Regimental Combat Teams anymore?
> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
>

Lee Ayrton

It looks like the Ammunition and Pioneer platoons were, during WWII at
least, just what the name suggests: Ammunition bearers and light military
engineers.

Keyword search for _pioneer platoon_ each of the following documents for
descriptions of the platoon's function:

<URL:http://www.trailblazersww2.org/replacements.htm>

<URL:http://www.6juin1944.com/veterans/hooper.php>

<URL:http://home.twcny.rr.com/cod324th/private.htm>



On Sun, 25 Apr 2004, Wblane wrote:

> I've been reading: A History of the Korean War: Pusan to Chosin. Anyway, in the
> organizational chart for the US Army of that day they mention a Pioneer &
> Ammunition company, which is normally attached to the headquarters company of
> an infantry battalion of the US Army. What does a Pioneer & Ammunition company
> do? Does the US Army still have Pioneer & Ammunition companys today? Also, does
> the US Army still use Regimental Combat Teams anymore?
> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
>

reconair

Ammunition and Pioneer Platoon of the 3rd Battalion Headquaters Company of
the 114th Infantry Regiment. The duties of the Ammunition and Pioneer
Platoons were normally small scale combat engineer work such as laying and
removing mines and booby traps, road and bridge repair, or most any job
requiring muscle or explosives.

Organization:
Ammunition and Pioneer Platoon

Truck 1/4-ton and Trailer 1/4-ton
Lt (Plat Ldr) (x)
Pvt (Truck driver) (x)
3 Pvts (Am bearers)

1 Carpenter Equip, squad, Engineer (less adze, carpenter's)
2 Demolition Equip set No. 5, individual
1 Intrenching Equip set No. 2, Infantry (incl. 64 gauntlets, barbed wire)
1 Net, camouflage, cotton, shrimp, 29' x 29' (for Tlr)
1 Pioneer Equip set No. 1, Engineer squad
1 Kit, first-aid, motor vehicle, 12-unit
1 Kit, first-aid, gas casualty
24 Bags, Am, M2
2 Launchers, rocket, AT, 2.36", M1
12 Rockets, AT, 2.36", M6
4 Bags, carrying, rocket, M6
24 Pads, shoulder, M2
1 Projector, pyrotechnic, hand, M9
10 Signals, aircraft
1 Apparatus, decontaminating, 3-gal, M1
1 Scabbard, rifle, M1938
2 Detector set SCR-625
1 Panel set AP-50-A
1 Gun, machine, cal. .50, Browning, M2, HB, flexible
1 Mount, tripod, cal. .50, M3 (complete w/elevator-cradle, AA, cal. .50, M1)
60 Rds, cal. .50 MG Am
2 Mittens, asbestos, M1942 J
1 Goggles, M1943, w/red lens

1 Set T/E Trk Equip (x)

(Approx. weight of load 4,920 pounds)


(x) Weight not included in load.

Scott
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"GW De Lacey" <georgew@dnet.aunz.com> wrote in message
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> On 25 Apr 2004 19:41:03 GMT, Wblane wrote:
>
> >I've been reading: A History of the Korean War: Pusan to Chosin. Anyway,
in the
> >organizational chart for the US Army of that day they mention a Pioneer &
> >Ammunition company, which is normally attached to the headquarters
company of
> >an infantry battalion of the US Army. What does a Pioneer & Ammunition
company
> >do? Does the US Army still have Pioneer & Ammunition companys today?
Also, does
> >the US Army still use Regimental Combat Teams anymore?
>
> In the Australian Army the Pioneers were (still are?) the people who
> prepared the garrison areas (latrines, tentage, cooking areas) and
> cleaned up when the troops left (first in, last out). Pioneer
> Companies and platoons were important assets, but individuals in these
> units were basically derided (who wants to know someone who looks
> after the latrines?), and membership was not much sought after. The
> Pioneers were responsible for the preparation and distribution of
> ammunition in their spare time.
>
> Maybe the US Army was similar?
>
> I don't know much about regimental combat teams.
>
> --
> GW De Lacey

reconair

Ammunition and Pioneer Platoon of the 3rd Battalion Headquaters Company of
the 114th Infantry Regiment. The duties of the Ammunition and Pioneer
Platoons were normally small scale combat engineer work such as laying and
removing mines and booby traps, road and bridge repair, or most any job
requiring muscle or explosives.

Organization:
Ammunition and Pioneer Platoon

Truck 1/4-ton and Trailer 1/4-ton
Lt (Plat Ldr) (x)
Pvt (Truck driver) (x)
3 Pvts (Am bearers)

1 Carpenter Equip, squad, Engineer (less adze, carpenter's)
2 Demolition Equip set No. 5, individual
1 Intrenching Equip set No. 2, Infantry (incl. 64 gauntlets, barbed wire)
1 Net, camouflage, cotton, shrimp, 29' x 29' (for Tlr)
1 Pioneer Equip set No. 1, Engineer squad
1 Kit, first-aid, motor vehicle, 12-unit
1 Kit, first-aid, gas casualty
24 Bags, Am, M2
2 Launchers, rocket, AT, 2.36", M1
12 Rockets, AT, 2.36", M6
4 Bags, carrying, rocket, M6
24 Pads, shoulder, M2
1 Projector, pyrotechnic, hand, M9
10 Signals, aircraft
1 Apparatus, decontaminating, 3-gal, M1
1 Scabbard, rifle, M1938
2 Detector set SCR-625
1 Panel set AP-50-A
1 Gun, machine, cal. .50, Browning, M2, HB, flexible
1 Mount, tripod, cal. .50, M3 (complete w/elevator-cradle, AA, cal. .50, M1)
60 Rds, cal. .50 MG Am
2 Mittens, asbestos, M1942 J
1 Goggles, M1943, w/red lens

1 Set T/E Trk Equip (x)

(Approx. weight of load 4,920 pounds)


(x) Weight not included in load.

Scott
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"GW De Lacey" <georgew@dnet.aunz.com> wrote in message
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> On 25 Apr 2004 19:41:03 GMT, Wblane wrote:
>
> >I've been reading: A History of the Korean War: Pusan to Chosin. Anyway,
in the
> >organizational chart for the US Army of that day they mention a Pioneer &
> >Ammunition company, which is normally attached to the headquarters
company of
> >an infantry battalion of the US Army. What does a Pioneer & Ammunition
company
> >do? Does the US Army still have Pioneer & Ammunition companys today?
Also, does
> >the US Army still use Regimental Combat Teams anymore?
>
> In the Australian Army the Pioneers were (still are?) the people who
> prepared the garrison areas (latrines, tentage, cooking areas) and
> cleaned up when the troops left (first in, last out). Pioneer
> Companies and platoons were important assets, but individuals in these
> units were basically derided (who wants to know someone who looks
> after the latrines?), and membership was not much sought after. The
> Pioneers were responsible for the preparation and distribution of
> ammunition in their spare time.
>
> Maybe the US Army was similar?
>
> I don't know much about regimental combat teams.
>
> --
> GW De Lacey

reconair

Ammunition and Pioneer Platoon of the 3rd Battalion Headquaters Company of
the 114th Infantry Regiment. The duties of the Ammunition and Pioneer
Platoons were normally small scale combat engineer work such as laying and
removing mines and booby traps, road and bridge repair, or most any job
requiring muscle or explosives.

Organization:
Ammunition and Pioneer Platoon

Truck 1/4-ton and Trailer 1/4-ton
Lt (Plat Ldr) (x)
Pvt (Truck driver) (x)
3 Pvts (Am bearers)

1 Carpenter Equip, squad, Engineer (less adze, carpenter's)
2 Demolition Equip set No. 5, individual
1 Intrenching Equip set No. 2, Infantry (incl. 64 gauntlets, barbed wire)
1 Net, camouflage, cotton, shrimp, 29' x 29' (for Tlr)
1 Pioneer Equip set No. 1, Engineer squad
1 Kit, first-aid, motor vehicle, 12-unit
1 Kit, first-aid, gas casualty
24 Bags, Am, M2
2 Launchers, rocket, AT, 2.36", M1
12 Rockets, AT, 2.36", M6
4 Bags, carrying, rocket, M6
24 Pads, shoulder, M2
1 Projector, pyrotechnic, hand, M9
10 Signals, aircraft
1 Apparatus, decontaminating, 3-gal, M1
1 Scabbard, rifle, M1938
2 Detector set SCR-625
1 Panel set AP-50-A
1 Gun, machine, cal. .50, Browning, M2, HB, flexible
1 Mount, tripod, cal. .50, M3 (complete w/elevator-cradle, AA, cal. .50, M1)
60 Rds, cal. .50 MG Am
2 Mittens, asbestos, M1942 J
1 Goggles, M1943, w/red lens

1 Set T/E Trk Equip (x)

(Approx. weight of load 4,920 pounds)


(x) Weight not included in load.

Scott
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"GW De Lacey" <georgew@dnet.aunz.com> wrote in message
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> On 25 Apr 2004 19:41:03 GMT, Wblane wrote:
>
> >I've been reading: A History of the Korean War: Pusan to Chosin. Anyway,
in the
> >organizational chart for the US Army of that day they mention a Pioneer &
> >Ammunition company, which is normally attached to the headquarters
company of
> >an infantry battalion of the US Army. What does a Pioneer & Ammunition
company
> >do? Does the US Army still have Pioneer & Ammunition companys today?
Also, does
> >the US Army still use Regimental Combat Teams anymore?
>
> In the Australian Army the Pioneers were (still are?) the people who
> prepared the garrison areas (latrines, tentage, cooking areas) and
> cleaned up when the troops left (first in, last out). Pioneer
> Companies and platoons were important assets, but individuals in these
> units were basically derided (who wants to know someone who looks
> after the latrines?), and membership was not much sought after. The
> Pioneers were responsible for the preparation and distribution of
> ammunition in their spare time.
>
> Maybe the US Army was similar?
>
> I don't know much about regimental combat teams.
>
> --
> GW De Lacey

reconair

Ammunition and Pioneer Platoon of the 3rd Battalion Headquaters Company of
the 114th Infantry Regiment. The duties of the Ammunition and Pioneer
Platoons were normally small scale combat engineer work such as laying and
removing mines and booby traps, road and bridge repair, or most any job
requiring muscle or explosives.

Organization:
Ammunition and Pioneer Platoon

Truck 1/4-ton and Trailer 1/4-ton
Lt (Plat Ldr) (x)
Pvt (Truck driver) (x)
3 Pvts (Am bearers)

1 Carpenter Equip, squad, Engineer (less adze, carpenter's)
2 Demolition Equip set No. 5, individual
1 Intrenching Equip set No. 2, Infantry (incl. 64 gauntlets, barbed wire)
1 Net, camouflage, cotton, shrimp, 29' x 29' (for Tlr)
1 Pioneer Equip set No. 1, Engineer squad
1 Kit, first-aid, motor vehicle, 12-unit
1 Kit, first-aid, gas casualty
24 Bags, Am, M2
2 Launchers, rocket, AT, 2.36", M1
12 Rockets, AT, 2.36", M6
4 Bags, carrying, rocket, M6
24 Pads, shoulder, M2
1 Projector, pyrotechnic, hand, M9
10 Signals, aircraft
1 Apparatus, decontaminating, 3-gal, M1
1 Scabbard, rifle, M1938
2 Detector set SCR-625
1 Panel set AP-50-A
1 Gun, machine, cal. .50, Browning, M2, HB, flexible
1 Mount, tripod, cal. .50, M3 (complete w/elevator-cradle, AA, cal. .50, M1)
60 Rds, cal. .50 MG Am
2 Mittens, asbestos, M1942 J
1 Goggles, M1943, w/red lens

1 Set T/E Trk Equip (x)

(Approx. weight of load 4,920 pounds)


(x) Weight not included in load.

Scott
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"GW De Lacey" <georgew@dnet.aunz.com> wrote in message
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> On 25 Apr 2004 19:41:03 GMT, Wblane wrote:
>
> >I've been reading: A History of the Korean War: Pusan to Chosin. Anyway,
in the
> >organizational chart for the US Army of that day they mention a Pioneer &
> >Ammunition company, which is normally attached to the headquarters
company of
> >an infantry battalion of the US Army. What does a Pioneer & Ammunition
company
> >do? Does the US Army still have Pioneer & Ammunition companys today?
Also, does
> >the US Army still use Regimental Combat Teams anymore?
>
> In the Australian Army the Pioneers were (still are?) the people who
> prepared the garrison areas (latrines, tentage, cooking areas) and
> cleaned up when the troops left (first in, last out). Pioneer
> Companies and platoons were important assets, but individuals in these
> units were basically derided (who wants to know someone who looks
> after the latrines?), and membership was not much sought after. The
> Pioneers were responsible for the preparation and distribution of
> ammunition in their spare time.
>
> Maybe the US Army was similar?
>
> I don't know much about regimental combat teams.
>
> --
> GW De Lacey

Wblane

I screwed up again Bill, he fired 105mm howitzers for the 90th infantry
division.

From what I've been able to dig up on Regimental Combat Teams they were
regiments that operated independently of any division. One of the RCT's in
Korea started out attached to one division but was later attached to another
division (I think it was the First Cav.). Are there any good newsgroups for US
military history?

>Hi William,
> By the time I was drafted, they didn't combine Divisions and call
>them Regimental anything (as far as I know), say like your example of
>90th infantry division and 105 Artillery, the 105 would have been
>another Division. I was assigned to the 8th infantry Division, but in a
>Battery of the 8th, you may just see my abbreviated address on my foot
>locker shipping container, As Headquarters, Headquarters Battery, 8th
>Infantry Division, Artillery, APO N.Y., N.Y.:
>http://www.----------.com/proudFcivilian2.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------

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