TJim

OK, here's the thing... I bought something from someone on a pretty popular
Jeep forum. The last email I have from him says that he got the check and
will ship "tomorrow". That was a month ago. For the past two weeks, I have
tried to email him only to find that all his emails bounce. I'm thinking,
"Hmmm! Did I just get screwed?". Since then I found that he has been
permanently kicked off a photography forum, no explanation given.
So, what is my recourse? I have the address I sent the check to. When I
get the check back from the bank, it should have the cashing bank on it,
right? He seems to use his real name (or, at least he's consistent). Where
do I go from here? I considered a "net detective" service, but I'm afraid
I'd be sending good money after bad. Where do you think I should go from
here? $100 is $100, but it's the principle of the thing, too! It just
pi$$es me off!
Thanks, rant over. What are my options? Any ideas?
OK, I'm done...
:)
TJim

Mike Romain

Mail fraud?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

TJim wrote:
>
> OK, here's the thing... I bought something from someone on a pretty popular
> Jeep forum. The last email I have from him says that he got the check and
> will ship "tomorrow". That was a month ago. For the past two weeks, I have
> tried to email him only to find that all his emails bounce. I'm thinking,
> "Hmmm! Did I just get screwed?". Since then I found that he has been
> permanently kicked off a photography forum, no explanation given.
> So, what is my recourse? I have the address I sent the check to. When I
> get the check back from the bank, it should have the cashing bank on it,
> right? He seems to use his real name (or, at least he's consistent). Where
> do I go from here? I considered a "net detective" service, but I'm afraid
> I'd be sending good money after bad. Where do you think I should go from
> here? $100 is $100, but it's the principle of the thing, too! It just
> pi$$es me off!
> Thanks, rant over. What are my options? Any ideas?
> OK, I'm done...
> :)
> TJim

TJim

Hmmm... that might work. I used USPS to mail him the check. I saved all
his emails, too. I printed them all out for posterity.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F3A91FB.5EC98DEC@sympatico.ca...
> Mail fraud?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> TJim wrote:
> >
> > OK, here's the thing... I bought something from someone on a pretty
popular
> > Jeep forum. The last email I have from him says that he got the check
and
> > will ship "tomorrow". That was a month ago. For the past two weeks, I
have
> > tried to email him only to find that all his emails bounce. I'm
thinking,
> > "Hmmm! Did I just get screwed?". Since then I found that he has been
> > permanently kicked off a photography forum, no explanation given.
> > So, what is my recourse? I have the address I sent the check to. When
I
> > get the check back from the bank, it should have the cashing bank on it,
> > right? He seems to use his real name (or, at least he's consistent).
Where
> > do I go from here? I considered a "net detective" service, but I'm
afraid
> > I'd be sending good money after bad. Where do you think I should go
from
> > here? $100 is $100, but it's the principle of the thing, too! It just
> > pi$$es me off!
> > Thanks, rant over. What are my options? Any ideas?
> > OK, I'm done...
> > :)
> > TJim

TJim

Thanks. I think I'll pursue both those ideas if I don't hear from him real
soon. Wish me luck.

"Jeff Gross" <jeffgross@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vjl8hj7nji4p1b@corp.supernews.com...
> Like Mike said - mail fraud is one option. You could also report him to
> his bank. They aren't usually impressed with bogus activities being
> handled through their institution. Ask anyone working at any bank what
> it costs them to do a full audit if someone accuses them of conspiracy
> to commit fraud (even if they're innocent bystanders - the bank still
> pays bigtime for the audit with the government). The bank should be more
> than happy to help you get started in resolving your problem.
>
> Cheers,
> - Jeff G
>
>
> TJim wrote:
>
> >OK, here's the thing... I bought something from someone on a pretty
popular
> >Jeep forum. The last email I have from him says that he got the check
and
> >will ship "tomorrow". That was a month ago. For the past two weeks, I
have
> >tried to email him only to find that all his emails bounce. I'm
thinking,
> >"Hmmm! Did I just get screwed?". Since then I found that he has been
> >permanently kicked off a photography forum, no explanation given.
> >So, what is my recourse? I have the address I sent the check to. When I
> >get the check back from the bank, it should have the cashing bank on it,
> >right? He seems to use his real name (or, at least he's consistent).
Where
> >do I go from here? I considered a "net detective" service, but I'm
afraid
> >I'd be sending good money after bad. Where do you think I should go from
> >here? $100 is $100, but it's the principle of the thing, too! It just
> >pi$$es me off!
> >Thanks, rant over. What are my options? Any ideas?
> >OK, I'm done...
> >:)
> >TJim
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Goat Crapp

try: http://www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp

i've been almsot screwed tiwce, but received the items after reporting them to
this site, and of course, TELLING them theyve been reported to "the fbi's
internet fraud center"

most internet ripoffs arent hardened criminals.. so this usually scares them
enough to send the item (after reccomending this to a friend, he received his
products as well and the person was bending over backwards with contact
information whereas the previous 3 months he had all but ignored him.

with you this may be harder since you say his emails are bouncing.

good luck.
-Steve 98 TJ

Evan

I don't think a bank would care. You gave him a check and he cashed it, which
is legal as far as they are concerned.

You have his address? Get a lawyer buddy to cut him a "nasty-gram"

look him up in a phone book.

post his name hear. . .



83 CJ 8, a work in progress
http://hometown.aol.com/ebmvi/MyTJindex.html
Take out the "XXX" to e-mail me

Football God

You have his address and a baseball bat. What more do you need???

TJim wrote:

> OK, here's the thing... I bought something from someone on a pretty popular
> Jeep forum. The last email I have from him says that he got the check and
> will ship "tomorrow". That was a month ago. For the past two weeks, I have
> tried to email him only to find that all his emails bounce. I'm thinking,
> "Hmmm! Did I just get screwed?". Since then I found that he has been
> permanently kicked off a photography forum, no explanation given.
> So, what is my recourse? I have the address I sent the check to. When I
> get the check back from the bank, it should have the cashing bank on it,
> right? He seems to use his real name (or, at least he's consistent). Where
> do I go from here? I considered a "net detective" service, but I'm afraid
> I'd be sending good money after bad. Where do you think I should go from
> here? $100 is $100, but it's the principle of the thing, too! It just
> pi$$es me off!
> Thanks, rant over. What are my options? Any ideas?
> OK, I'm done...
> :)
> TJim

TJim

His name doesn't come up on a "white pages" search, but yes, I do have *an*
address and the names of two towns he has lived in as well as several
defunct email addresses (I've tried them all).
I think what I'll do is to write him a "snail mail" note and give him a
little more time to respond. It's possible that something happened on his
end that has him completely distracted. (I'm trying to give the guy the
benefit if the doubt here...)
Thanks for all the suggestions. I intend to give them a try. I don't care
if he just sends me a refund. It just pi$$es me off if he just expects me
to lie down and take it. I won't.
Wish me luck. (I could use some...)
TJim


"Evan" <ebmvi@aol.comxxx> wrote in message
news:20030814080945.13089.00001310@mb-m10.aol.com...
> I don't think a bank would care. You gave him a check and he cashed it,
which
> is legal as far as they are concerned.
>
> You have his address? Get a lawyer buddy to cut him a "nasty-gram"
>
> look him up in a phone book.
>
> post his name hear. . .
>
>
>
> 83 CJ 8, a work in progress
> http://hometown.aol.com/ebmvi/MyTJindex.html
> Take out the "XXX" to e-mail me
>

casca

suggest, that you contact his local law enforcement . this is a wire fraud
and mail fraud. usually once spoken to by a law officer , they see the error
of their ways.
casca
"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ji-dnf-77rnFFKaiXTWJhg@comcast.com...
> His name doesn't come up on a "white pages" search, but yes, I do have
*an*
> address and the names of two towns he has lived in as well as several
> defunct email addresses (I've tried them all).
> I think what I'll do is to write him a "snail mail" note and give him a
> little more time to respond. It's possible that something happened on his
> end that has him completely distracted. (I'm trying to give the guy the
> benefit if the doubt here...)
> Thanks for all the suggestions. I intend to give them a try. I don't
care
> if he just sends me a refund. It just pi$$es me off if he just expects me
> to lie down and take it. I won't.
> Wish me luck. (I could use some...)
> TJim
>
>
> "Evan" <ebmvi@aol.comxxx> wrote in message
> news:20030814080945.13089.00001310@mb-m10.aol.com...
> > I don't think a bank would care. You gave him a check and he cashed it,
> which
> > is legal as far as they are concerned.
> >
> > You have his address? Get a lawyer buddy to cut him a "nasty-gram"
> >
> > look him up in a phone book.
> >
> > post his name hear. . .
> >
> >
> >
> > 83 CJ 8, a work in progress
> > http://hometown.aol.com/ebmvi/MyTJindex.html
> > Take out the "XXX" to e-mail me
> >
>
>

TJim

There might be a breakthrough this afternoon. I send one last email to
every email address I have for this guy (7) and two of them didn't bounce
and I got a "we'll answer as soon as we can" answer for one of them. Next,
I'm sending him emails to the three addresses that seemed to work requesting
receipts (which I *should* have done today), even though I know you can just
refuse to return the receipt if you have OE. Maybe he'll actually have a
reasonable excuse and we can work the whole thing out. (I tend to be
optimistic until the last dog is hung.)
Wish me luck.

"casca" <casca@megsinet.net> wrote in message
news:vjnurnkgfrjd29@corp.supernews.com...
> suggest, that you contact his local law enforcement . this is a wire fraud
> and mail fraud. usually once spoken to by a law officer , they see the
error
> of their ways.
> casca
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:ji-dnf-77rnFFKaiXTWJhg@comcast.com...
> > His name doesn't come up on a "white pages" search, but yes, I do have
> *an*
> > address and the names of two towns he has lived in as well as several
> > defunct email addresses (I've tried them all).
> > I think what I'll do is to write him a "snail mail" note and give him a
> > little more time to respond. It's possible that something happened on
his
> > end that has him completely distracted. (I'm trying to give the guy the
> > benefit if the doubt here...)
> > Thanks for all the suggestions. I intend to give them a try. I don't
> care
> > if he just sends me a refund. It just pi$$es me off if he just expects
me
> > to lie down and take it. I won't.
> > Wish me luck. (I could use some...)
> > TJim
> >
> >
> > "Evan" <ebmvi@aol.comxxx> wrote in message
> > news:20030814080945.13089.00001310@mb-m10.aol.com...
> > > I don't think a bank would care. You gave him a check and he cashed
it,
> > which
> > > is legal as far as they are concerned.
> > >
> > > You have his address? Get a lawyer buddy to cut him a "nasty-gram"
> > >
> > > look him up in a phone book.
> > >
> > > post his name hear. . .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 83 CJ 8, a work in progress
> > > http://hometown.aol.com/ebmvi/MyTJindex.html
> > > Take out the "XXX" to e-mail me
> > >
> >
> >
>
>