Why should I care? I am going home in five months, and already I miss the
New World, and the Spanish accent that sounds so funny, that you cannot
follow it. There is a Burger King here too.

Earle

"Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
news:di59um$6p4$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> Hmmm Vitoria? Ask the "batasunos" to blow that McDonald... they know how
to
> do it.
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
> news:434537d8$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
> > Those are United States television stations that I mentioned. They have
> > ads
> > in Spanish, touring "Inglés sin barreras" as the painless way to "la
vida
> > mejor". There are ads like this in Spain too. I laugh when I see them.
> > If
> > this is true, why am I learning Spanish?
> >
> > The houses in the United States are no longer made of wood, except for
> > those
> > bought by the very rich. They are made of cardboard and styrofoam now.
I
> > am not pulling your leg.
> >
> > I must insist, that the Spanish spoken in the new world, which is like
the
> > Spanish of Andalucía, has a greater acceptance, world wide, than the
> > Castillian version. I can understand both.
> >
> > I am in Vitoria-Gasteiz, and there is a MacDonald's right around the
> > corner,
> > en la Calle Dato. If more of them are built, it will strain your
> > socialist
> > health care system, perhaps to the point of breaking it. And it will
mean
> > the end of your attractive but underfed women.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> > news:di2m6r$7jm$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> >> Why Spaniards are not traveling? Let me explain that to you... we allow
> >> Poland to enter into the Union just to stop being the poorest country
in
> > the
> >> EU. That easy. Now that Poland is starting to improve their situation
we
> > are
> >> planning to allow Turkey to go into the Union.
> >>
> >> In Spain we don't watch South American TVs. Basically since ASTRA or
> >> HISPASAT which are the two satellite systems found in southern Europe
> > don't
> >> send the signal of those channels. I think Galavision is on ASTRA but
for
> > us
> >> the South Americans accent sound so funny that we can not really follow
> > what
> >> they are saying. Is something like Portuguese and Brasilian both are
> >> suppouse to be the same language but the find the way to speak it very
> >> strange each other.
> >>
> >> Now related the Euro and Dollar. When I was in the States I found that
> >> housing is more cheap there than in Europe but those wooden made houses
> > you
> >> have in the cities are not found in Europe (not even in Spain where the
> >> weather is goog enough). So building a home in Europe is much more
> > expensive
> >> that in the States.
> >>
> >> Another important diference are cars. An european car like BMW or Audi
or
> >> Mercedes cost double in Germany or Spain than in the States. The reason
> > for
> >> that could be that european makers must fight with the prices of local
> >> makers like Ford or GM. I think again that making a car in the States
is
> >> much cheaper that in Europe due to the social facilities the workers in
> >> Europe have.
> >>
> >> Just imagine, I pay on taxes by the end of the year or taken directly
> >> from
> >> my salary about 35%, so if the company pays to me around 48000 Euros a
> > year
> >> "Hacienda" (our IRS) gets for the state about 16800 Euros (57908
> >> dollars -
> >> 20267 dollars, what www.xe.com said). And Spain is not the worst
country
> > in
> >> EU related to taxes. In France and Germany I could pay for the same
> >> salary
> >> about a 45% on taxes. And in northern Europe like Sweden, Norway or
> > Finland
> >> they pay as much as 65%.
> >>
> >> Is this meant that the average european has less money in his pocket
that
> >> the average american? Not really. All the european contries has
National
> >> Health System which has great health assistance. I have no other health
> >> system than the owned by the state. I could but I don't need it. And
all
> >> european countries has a Social Security System which pays to you about
> >> 65%-90% of your salary when you are ill for a long time or when you
raise
> > 65
> >> years old and you stop working for a salary (I don't remember the
english
> >> word... retirement?... don't know). So... if you take an american
salary
> > and
> >> you add the health insurance and a retirement plan and many other
> > facilities
> >> that the average european pays with the taxes may be the diference is
not
> >> too much. May be with a person from Spain yes but not with a German.
> >>
> >> Which system is the best? I don't make any choice on that. I hate
paying
> >> taxes but when I saw how much an american pay for being in a hospital I
> >> think it over.
> >>
> >> Related to Mr. Bean - Zapatero. I must insist... Guantanamo is the
> > solution.
> >> He is good friend of Chavez and Castro so... you have there the reason
to
> >> take it into jail. ;-)
> >>
> >> Fidelio
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
> >> news:43440c73$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
> >> > Yeah, my first day in Spain they told me, "Los dólares no tienen
> >> > valor",
> >> > but
> >> > they took my credit card OK. Don't be put off by "Doug" or his ilk.
> >> > There
> >> > are people like him everywhere. We get lots of French, German, and
> >> > English
> >> > tourists where I live, <www.silvertoncolorado.com>, but not that many
> >> > Spaniards. We wonder where they are. Some people think, that they
may
> > be
> >> > stand-offish and unwilling to go places, where their language is not
> >> > spoken.
> >> > The Mexicans and Central Americans are not so picky. In fact, if you
> >> > watched the advertisements on Telemundo, Univision, or hTV, you would
> > form
> >> > the opinion, that all they care about, is learning English. It is
the
> >> > ticket to "la vida mejor", as one ad says. On the other hand, lots
of
> >> > Anglos in my country are learning Spanish too.
> >> >
> >> > I am not too worried about the Euro situation. I'll bet that I can
buy
> > a
> >> > lot more with a dollar in the U.S., than you can buy with a Euro in
> > Spain.
> >> > The latinos that come into my country, legally or not, seem to like
> >> > dollars
> >> > too. I am not an expert on economics, but I suspect that the Euro
may
> > be
> >> > over-valued.
> >> >
> >> > The Mr. Bean comment cracks me up. Your previous president had a lot
> > more
> >> > dress sense and better taylors, although I didn't care too much for
his
> >> > politics.
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:di00o4$628$4@caladan.landsraad.net...
> >> >> Hmmm Great news. I was thinking on visiting the States but my
english
> > is
> >> >> soooo bad that I took the desicion of not going. But your note helps
> >> >> me
> >> >> to
> >> >> decide where in the States to go.
> >> >>
> >> >> Funny thing is that nowadays if you know english and spanish you can
> >> > travel
> >> >> all around the world. Some years ago you could travel only with
> >> >> english
> >> > but
> >> >> the times are changing. Is like the dollar. Few years ago every
single
> >> > time
> >> >> I traveled outside Europe I carried US Dollars that are accepted all
> >> > around
> >> >> the world. Now I travel only with UE Euros... That is something for
> >> >> you
> >> >> to
> >> >> worry about... not the ------ of "hispanos" population.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best Regards,
> >> >> Fidelio
> >> >> from Spain (UE)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> escribió en el mensaje
> >> >> news:_Nw0f.1434$xD7.1251@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
> >> >> > At least whole sections of Britain aren't speaking/reading/writing
> >> > Spanish
> >> >> > now. I've seen cities in Southern California where all the
> >> >> > billboards
> >> > are
> >> >> > in Spanish. I've seen cities in Southern California where
libraries
> > no
> >> >> > longer have the name libraries, they're now called bibliotecas.
> > Imagine
> >> >> > public libraries that don't have signs calling them libraries
> > anymore.
> >> >> > Insane. Do hispanics still get affirmative action in the USA? Too
> >> >> > bad
> > I
> >> >> > don't get any affirmative action in any latino countries...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > there is no .sig
> >> >> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:mZq0f.121355$G8.107975@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> >> >> >> no, just legal aliens committing crimes and ending up in
> > jail/prison.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> >> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:aeb8$43420337$d8449845$23577@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> >>> Have you got a problem there with illegal aliens committing
crimes
> >> >> >>> and
> >> >> >>> ending up in jail/prison?
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> --
> >> >> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >> >> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >> >> >>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> >> >> >>> .
> >> >> >>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> >> >> >>> news:JTl0f.121295$G8.68978@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> >> >> >>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4305798.stm
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > Apparently, prison officers having an English flag on a
tie-pin
> >> > given
> >> >> >>> > as
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >>> > result of a donation to a cancer charity, is to be banned in
> >> > Wakefield
> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >>> > "It could be misinterpreted as a racist symbol". The Chief
> >> >> >>> > inspector
> >> >> >>> > for
> >> >> >>> > prisons, Anne Owens, said they were also "a cause for
concern".
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > Un-f*king*-believable.
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> >> >>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

 

Why should I care? I am going home in five months, and already I miss the
New World, and the Spanish accent that sounds so funny, that you cannot
follow it. There is a Burger King here too.

Earle

"Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
news:di59um$6p4$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> Hmmm Vitoria? Ask the "batasunos" to blow that McDonald... they know how
to
> do it.
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
> news:434537d8$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
> > Those are United States television stations that I mentioned. They have
> > ads
> > in Spanish, touring "Inglés sin barreras" as the painless way to "la
vida
> > mejor". There are ads like this in Spain too. I laugh when I see them.
> > If
> > this is true, why am I learning Spanish?
> >
> > The houses in the United States are no longer made of wood, except for
> > those
> > bought by the very rich. They are made of cardboard and styrofoam now.
I
> > am not pulling your leg.
> >
> > I must insist, that the Spanish spoken in the new world, which is like
the
> > Spanish of Andalucía, has a greater acceptance, world wide, than the
> > Castillian version. I can understand both.
> >
> > I am in Vitoria-Gasteiz, and there is a MacDonald's right around the
> > corner,
> > en la Calle Dato. If more of them are built, it will strain your
> > socialist
> > health care system, perhaps to the point of breaking it. And it will
mean
> > the end of your attractive but underfed women.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> > news:di2m6r$7jm$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> >> Why Spaniards are not traveling? Let me explain that to you... we allow
> >> Poland to enter into the Union just to stop being the poorest country
in
> > the
> >> EU. That easy. Now that Poland is starting to improve their situation
we
> > are
> >> planning to allow Turkey to go into the Union.
> >>
> >> In Spain we don't watch South American TVs. Basically since ASTRA or
> >> HISPASAT which are the two satellite systems found in southern Europe
> > don't
> >> send the signal of those channels. I think Galavision is on ASTRA but
for
> > us
> >> the South Americans accent sound so funny that we can not really follow
> > what
> >> they are saying. Is something like Portuguese and Brasilian both are
> >> suppouse to be the same language but the find the way to speak it very
> >> strange each other.
> >>
> >> Now related the Euro and Dollar. When I was in the States I found that
> >> housing is more cheap there than in Europe but those wooden made houses
> > you
> >> have in the cities are not found in Europe (not even in Spain where the
> >> weather is goog enough). So building a home in Europe is much more
> > expensive
> >> that in the States.
> >>
> >> Another important diference are cars. An european car like BMW or Audi
or
> >> Mercedes cost double in Germany or Spain than in the States. The reason
> > for
> >> that could be that european makers must fight with the prices of local
> >> makers like Ford or GM. I think again that making a car in the States
is
> >> much cheaper that in Europe due to the social facilities the workers in
> >> Europe have.
> >>
> >> Just imagine, I pay on taxes by the end of the year or taken directly
> >> from
> >> my salary about 35%, so if the company pays to me around 48000 Euros a
> > year
> >> "Hacienda" (our IRS) gets for the state about 16800 Euros (57908
> >> dollars -
> >> 20267 dollars, what www.xe.com said). And Spain is not the worst
country
> > in
> >> EU related to taxes. In France and Germany I could pay for the same
> >> salary
> >> about a 45% on taxes. And in northern Europe like Sweden, Norway or
> > Finland
> >> they pay as much as 65%.
> >>
> >> Is this meant that the average european has less money in his pocket
that
> >> the average american? Not really. All the european contries has
National
> >> Health System which has great health assistance. I have no other health
> >> system than the owned by the state. I could but I don't need it. And
all
> >> european countries has a Social Security System which pays to you about
> >> 65%-90% of your salary when you are ill for a long time or when you
raise
> > 65
> >> years old and you stop working for a salary (I don't remember the
english
> >> word... retirement?... don't know). So... if you take an american
salary
> > and
> >> you add the health insurance and a retirement plan and many other
> > facilities
> >> that the average european pays with the taxes may be the diference is
not
> >> too much. May be with a person from Spain yes but not with a German.
> >>
> >> Which system is the best? I don't make any choice on that. I hate
paying
> >> taxes but when I saw how much an american pay for being in a hospital I
> >> think it over.
> >>
> >> Related to Mr. Bean - Zapatero. I must insist... Guantanamo is the
> > solution.
> >> He is good friend of Chavez and Castro so... you have there the reason
to
> >> take it into jail. ;-)
> >>
> >> Fidelio
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
> >> news:43440c73$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
> >> > Yeah, my first day in Spain they told me, "Los dólares no tienen
> >> > valor",
> >> > but
> >> > they took my credit card OK. Don't be put off by "Doug" or his ilk.
> >> > There
> >> > are people like him everywhere. We get lots of French, German, and
> >> > English
> >> > tourists where I live, <www.silvertoncolorado.com>, but not that many
> >> > Spaniards. We wonder where they are. Some people think, that they
may
> > be
> >> > stand-offish and unwilling to go places, where their language is not
> >> > spoken.
> >> > The Mexicans and Central Americans are not so picky. In fact, if you
> >> > watched the advertisements on Telemundo, Univision, or hTV, you would
> > form
> >> > the opinion, that all they care about, is learning English. It is
the
> >> > ticket to "la vida mejor", as one ad says. On the other hand, lots
of
> >> > Anglos in my country are learning Spanish too.
> >> >
> >> > I am not too worried about the Euro situation. I'll bet that I can
buy
> > a
> >> > lot more with a dollar in the U.S., than you can buy with a Euro in
> > Spain.
> >> > The latinos that come into my country, legally or not, seem to like
> >> > dollars
> >> > too. I am not an expert on economics, but I suspect that the Euro
may
> > be
> >> > over-valued.
> >> >
> >> > The Mr. Bean comment cracks me up. Your previous president had a lot
> > more
> >> > dress sense and better taylors, although I didn't care too much for
his
> >> > politics.
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:di00o4$628$4@caladan.landsraad.net...
> >> >> Hmmm Great news. I was thinking on visiting the States but my
english
> > is
> >> >> soooo bad that I took the desicion of not going. But your note helps
> >> >> me
> >> >> to
> >> >> decide where in the States to go.
> >> >>
> >> >> Funny thing is that nowadays if you know english and spanish you can
> >> > travel
> >> >> all around the world. Some years ago you could travel only with
> >> >> english
> >> > but
> >> >> the times are changing. Is like the dollar. Few years ago every
single
> >> > time
> >> >> I traveled outside Europe I carried US Dollars that are accepted all
> >> > around
> >> >> the world. Now I travel only with UE Euros... That is something for
> >> >> you
> >> >> to
> >> >> worry about... not the ------ of "hispanos" population.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best Regards,
> >> >> Fidelio
> >> >> from Spain (UE)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> escribió en el mensaje
> >> >> news:_Nw0f.1434$xD7.1251@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
> >> >> > At least whole sections of Britain aren't speaking/reading/writing
> >> > Spanish
> >> >> > now. I've seen cities in Southern California where all the
> >> >> > billboards
> >> > are
> >> >> > in Spanish. I've seen cities in Southern California where
libraries
> > no
> >> >> > longer have the name libraries, they're now called bibliotecas.
> > Imagine
> >> >> > public libraries that don't have signs calling them libraries
> > anymore.
> >> >> > Insane. Do hispanics still get affirmative action in the USA? Too
> >> >> > bad
> > I
> >> >> > don't get any affirmative action in any latino countries...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > there is no .sig
> >> >> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:mZq0f.121355$G8.107975@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> >> >> >> no, just legal aliens committing crimes and ending up in
> > jail/prison.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> >> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:aeb8$43420337$d8449845$23577@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> >>> Have you got a problem there with illegal aliens committing
crimes
> >> >> >>> and
> >> >> >>> ending up in jail/prison?
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> --
> >> >> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >> >> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >> >> >>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> >> >> >>> .
> >> >> >>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> >> >> >>> news:JTl0f.121295$G8.68978@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> >> >> >>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4305798.stm
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > Apparently, prison officers having an English flag on a
tie-pin
> >> > given
> >> >> >>> > as
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >>> > result of a donation to a cancer charity, is to be banned in
> >> > Wakefield
> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >>> > "It could be misinterpreted as a racist symbol". The Chief
> >> >> >>> > inspector
> >> >> >>> > for
> >> >> >>> > prisons, Anne Owens, said they were also "a cause for
concern".
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > Un-f*king*-believable.
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> >> >>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

 

Great. While in the New World... I though it was called Third World, at
least to the south of El Paso.... anyway while in the New World double check
the meaning of "funny" in English.

And you are free to stay at Frijolandia forever.

Hmmm anyway since I think you are not going to check it let me show you the
meaning (look at the meaning number 1, which happens to be the one I was
using):

funny
A adjective
1 curious, funny, odd, peculiar, queer, rum, rummy, singular

beyond or deviating from the usual or expected; "a curious hybrid
accent"; "her speech has a funny twang"; "they have some funny ideas about
war"; "had an odd name"; "the peculiar aromatic odor of cloves"; "something
definitely queer about this town"; "wh

2 amusing, comic, comical, funny, laughable, mirthful, risible

arousing or provoking laughter; "an amusing film with a steady
stream of pranks and pratfalls"; "an amusing fellow"; "a comic hat"; "a
comical look of surprise"; "funny stories that made everybody laugh"; "a
very funny writer"; "it would have been laughab

3 fishy, funny, queer, shady, suspect, suspicious

not as expected; "there was something fishy about the accident";
"up to some funny business"; "some definitely queer goings-on"; "a shady
deal"; "her motives were suspect"; "suspicious behavior"

4 funny

experiencing odd bodily sensations; "told the doctor about the
funny sensations in her chest"


Greatings,
Fidelio

"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:434787a8$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
> Why should I care? I am going home in five months, and already I miss the
> New World, and the Spanish accent that sounds so funny, that you cannot
> follow it. There is a Burger King here too.
>
> Earle
>
> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> news:di59um$6p4$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> Hmmm Vitoria? Ask the "batasunos" to blow that McDonald... they know how
> to
>> do it.
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:434537d8$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
>> > Those are United States television stations that I mentioned. They
>> > have
>> > ads
>> > in Spanish, touring "Inglés sin barreras" as the painless way to "la
> vida
>> > mejor". There are ads like this in Spain too. I laugh when I see
>> > them.
>> > If
>> > this is true, why am I learning Spanish?
>> >
>> > The houses in the United States are no longer made of wood, except for
>> > those
>> > bought by the very rich. They are made of cardboard and styrofoam now.
> I
>> > am not pulling your leg.
>> >
>> > I must insist, that the Spanish spoken in the new world, which is like
> the
>> > Spanish of Andalucía, has a greater acceptance, world wide, than the
>> > Castillian version. I can understand both.
>> >
>> > I am in Vitoria-Gasteiz, and there is a MacDonald's right around the
>> > corner,
>> > en la Calle Dato. If more of them are built, it will strain your
>> > socialist
>> > health care system, perhaps to the point of breaking it. And it will
> mean
>> > the end of your attractive but underfed women.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> > news:di2m6r$7jm$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> >> Why Spaniards are not traveling? Let me explain that to you... we
>> >> allow
>> >> Poland to enter into the Union just to stop being the poorest country
> in
>> > the
>> >> EU. That easy. Now that Poland is starting to improve their situation
> we
>> > are
>> >> planning to allow Turkey to go into the Union.
>> >>
>> >> In Spain we don't watch South American TVs. Basically since ASTRA or
>> >> HISPASAT which are the two satellite systems found in southern Europe
>> > don't
>> >> send the signal of those channels. I think Galavision is on ASTRA but
> for
>> > us
>> >> the South Americans accent sound so funny that we can not really
>> >> follow
>> > what
>> >> they are saying. Is something like Portuguese and Brasilian both are
>> >> suppouse to be the same language but the find the way to speak it very
>> >> strange each other.
>> >>
>> >> Now related the Euro and Dollar. When I was in the States I found that
>> >> housing is more cheap there than in Europe but those wooden made
>> >> houses
>> > you
>> >> have in the cities are not found in Europe (not even in Spain where
>> >> the
>> >> weather is goog enough). So building a home in Europe is much more
>> > expensive
>> >> that in the States.
>> >>
>> >> Another important diference are cars. An european car like BMW or Audi
> or
>> >> Mercedes cost double in Germany or Spain than in the States. The
>> >> reason
>> > for
>> >> that could be that european makers must fight with the prices of local
>> >> makers like Ford or GM. I think again that making a car in the States
> is
>> >> much cheaper that in Europe due to the social facilities the workers
>> >> in
>> >> Europe have.
>> >>
>> >> Just imagine, I pay on taxes by the end of the year or taken directly
>> >> from
>> >> my salary about 35%, so if the company pays to me around 48000 Euros a
>> > year
>> >> "Hacienda" (our IRS) gets for the state about 16800 Euros (57908
>> >> dollars -
>> >> 20267 dollars, what www.xe.com said). And Spain is not the worst
> country
>> > in
>> >> EU related to taxes. In France and Germany I could pay for the same
>> >> salary
>> >> about a 45% on taxes. And in northern Europe like Sweden, Norway or
>> > Finland
>> >> they pay as much as 65%.
>> >>
>> >> Is this meant that the average european has less money in his pocket
> that
>> >> the average american? Not really. All the european contries has
> National
>> >> Health System which has great health assistance. I have no other
>> >> health
>> >> system than the owned by the state. I could but I don't need it. And
> all
>> >> european countries has a Social Security System which pays to you
>> >> about
>> >> 65%-90% of your salary when you are ill for a long time or when you
> raise
>> > 65
>> >> years old and you stop working for a salary (I don't remember the
> english
>> >> word... retirement?... don't know). So... if you take an american
> salary
>> > and
>> >> you add the health insurance and a retirement plan and many other
>> > facilities
>> >> that the average european pays with the taxes may be the diference is
> not
>> >> too much. May be with a person from Spain yes but not with a German.
>> >>
>> >> Which system is the best? I don't make any choice on that. I hate
> paying
>> >> taxes but when I saw how much an american pay for being in a hospital
>> >> I
>> >> think it over.
>> >>
>> >> Related to Mr. Bean - Zapatero. I must insist... Guantanamo is the
>> > solution.
>> >> He is good friend of Chavez and Castro so... you have there the reason
> to
>> >> take it into jail. ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Fidelio
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> >> news:43440c73$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
>> >> > Yeah, my first day in Spain they told me, "Los dólares no tienen
>> >> > valor",
>> >> > but
>> >> > they took my credit card OK. Don't be put off by "Doug" or his ilk.
>> >> > There
>> >> > are people like him everywhere. We get lots of French, German, and
>> >> > English
>> >> > tourists where I live, <www.silvertoncolorado.com>, but not that
>> >> > many
>> >> > Spaniards. We wonder where they are. Some people think, that they
> may
>> > be
>> >> > stand-offish and unwilling to go places, where their language is not
>> >> > spoken.
>> >> > The Mexicans and Central Americans are not so picky. In fact, if
>> >> > you
>> >> > watched the advertisements on Telemundo, Univision, or hTV, you
>> >> > would
>> > form
>> >> > the opinion, that all they care about, is learning English. It is
> the
>> >> > ticket to "la vida mejor", as one ad says. On the other hand, lots
> of
>> >> > Anglos in my country are learning Spanish too.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am not too worried about the Euro situation. I'll bet that I can
> buy
>> > a
>> >> > lot more with a dollar in the U.S., than you can buy with a Euro in
>> > Spain.
>> >> > The latinos that come into my country, legally or not, seem to like
>> >> > dollars
>> >> > too. I am not an expert on economics, but I suspect that the Euro
> may
>> > be
>> >> > over-valued.
>> >> >
>> >> > The Mr. Bean comment cracks me up. Your previous president had a
>> >> > lot
>> > more
>> >> > dress sense and better taylors, although I didn't care too much for
> his
>> >> > politics.
>> >> >
>> >> > Earle
>> >> >
>> >> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:di00o4$628$4@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> >> >> Hmmm Great news. I was thinking on visiting the States but my
> english
>> > is
>> >> >> soooo bad that I took the desicion of not going. But your note
>> >> >> helps
>> >> >> me
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> decide where in the States to go.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Funny thing is that nowadays if you know english and spanish you
>> >> >> can
>> >> > travel
>> >> >> all around the world. Some years ago you could travel only with
>> >> >> english
>> >> > but
>> >> >> the times are changing. Is like the dollar. Few years ago every
> single
>> >> > time
>> >> >> I traveled outside Europe I carried US Dollars that are accepted
>> >> >> all
>> >> > around
>> >> >> the world. Now I travel only with UE Euros... That is something for
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> worry about... not the ------ of "hispanos" population.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best Regards,
>> >> >> Fidelio
>> >> >> from Spain (UE)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> >> >> news:_Nw0f.1434$xD7.1251@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> >> >> > At least whole sections of Britain aren't
>> >> >> > speaking/reading/writing
>> >> > Spanish
>> >> >> > now. I've seen cities in Southern California where all the
>> >> >> > billboards
>> >> > are
>> >> >> > in Spanish. I've seen cities in Southern California where
> libraries
>> > no
>> >> >> > longer have the name libraries, they're now called bibliotecas.
>> > Imagine
>> >> >> > public libraries that don't have signs calling them libraries
>> > anymore.
>> >> >> > Insane. Do hispanics still get affirmative action in the USA? Too
>> >> >> > bad
>> > I
>> >> >> > don't get any affirmative action in any latino countries...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > there is no .sig
>> >> >> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:mZq0f.121355$G8.107975@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>> >> >> >> no, just legal aliens committing crimes and ending up in
>> > jail/prison.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> >> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:aeb8$43420337$d8449845$23577@FUSE.NET...
>> >> >> >>> Have you got a problem there with illegal aliens committing
> crimes
>> >> >> >>> and
>> >> >> >>> ending up in jail/prison?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> >> >> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> >> >> >>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> >> >> >>> .
>> >> >> >>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> >> >> >>> news:JTl0f.121295$G8.68978@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> >> >> >>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4305798.stm
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Apparently, prison officers having an English flag on a
> tie-pin
>> >> > given
>> >> >> >>> > as
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >>> > result of a donation to a cancer charity, is to be banned in
>> >> > Wakefield
>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >>> > "It could be misinterpreted as a racist symbol". The Chief
>> >> >> >>> > inspector
>> >> >> >>> > for
>> >> >> >>> > prisons, Anne Owens, said they were also "a cause for
> concern".
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Un-f*king*-believable.
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> >> >>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

Great. While in the New World... I though it was called Third World, at
least to the south of El Paso.... anyway while in the New World double check
the meaning of "funny" in English.

And you are free to stay at Frijolandia forever.

Hmmm anyway since I think you are not going to check it let me show you the
meaning (look at the meaning number 1, which happens to be the one I was
using):

funny
A adjective
1 curious, funny, odd, peculiar, queer, rum, rummy, singular

beyond or deviating from the usual or expected; "a curious hybrid
accent"; "her speech has a funny twang"; "they have some funny ideas about
war"; "had an odd name"; "the peculiar aromatic odor of cloves"; "something
definitely queer about this town"; "wh

2 amusing, comic, comical, funny, laughable, mirthful, risible

arousing or provoking laughter; "an amusing film with a steady
stream of pranks and pratfalls"; "an amusing fellow"; "a comic hat"; "a
comical look of surprise"; "funny stories that made everybody laugh"; "a
very funny writer"; "it would have been laughab

3 fishy, funny, queer, shady, suspect, suspicious

not as expected; "there was something fishy about the accident";
"up to some funny business"; "some definitely queer goings-on"; "a shady
deal"; "her motives were suspect"; "suspicious behavior"

4 funny

experiencing odd bodily sensations; "told the doctor about the
funny sensations in her chest"


Greatings,
Fidelio

"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:434787a8$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
> Why should I care? I am going home in five months, and already I miss the
> New World, and the Spanish accent that sounds so funny, that you cannot
> follow it. There is a Burger King here too.
>
> Earle
>
> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> news:di59um$6p4$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> Hmmm Vitoria? Ask the "batasunos" to blow that McDonald... they know how
> to
>> do it.
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:434537d8$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
>> > Those are United States television stations that I mentioned. They
>> > have
>> > ads
>> > in Spanish, touring "Inglés sin barreras" as the painless way to "la
> vida
>> > mejor". There are ads like this in Spain too. I laugh when I see
>> > them.
>> > If
>> > this is true, why am I learning Spanish?
>> >
>> > The houses in the United States are no longer made of wood, except for
>> > those
>> > bought by the very rich. They are made of cardboard and styrofoam now.
> I
>> > am not pulling your leg.
>> >
>> > I must insist, that the Spanish spoken in the new world, which is like
> the
>> > Spanish of Andalucía, has a greater acceptance, world wide, than the
>> > Castillian version. I can understand both.
>> >
>> > I am in Vitoria-Gasteiz, and there is a MacDonald's right around the
>> > corner,
>> > en la Calle Dato. If more of them are built, it will strain your
>> > socialist
>> > health care system, perhaps to the point of breaking it. And it will
> mean
>> > the end of your attractive but underfed women.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> > news:di2m6r$7jm$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> >> Why Spaniards are not traveling? Let me explain that to you... we
>> >> allow
>> >> Poland to enter into the Union just to stop being the poorest country
> in
>> > the
>> >> EU. That easy. Now that Poland is starting to improve their situation
> we
>> > are
>> >> planning to allow Turkey to go into the Union.
>> >>
>> >> In Spain we don't watch South American TVs. Basically since ASTRA or
>> >> HISPASAT which are the two satellite systems found in southern Europe
>> > don't
>> >> send the signal of those channels. I think Galavision is on ASTRA but
> for
>> > us
>> >> the South Americans accent sound so funny that we can not really
>> >> follow
>> > what
>> >> they are saying. Is something like Portuguese and Brasilian both are
>> >> suppouse to be the same language but the find the way to speak it very
>> >> strange each other.
>> >>
>> >> Now related the Euro and Dollar. When I was in the States I found that
>> >> housing is more cheap there than in Europe but those wooden made
>> >> houses
>> > you
>> >> have in the cities are not found in Europe (not even in Spain where
>> >> the
>> >> weather is goog enough). So building a home in Europe is much more
>> > expensive
>> >> that in the States.
>> >>
>> >> Another important diference are cars. An european car like BMW or Audi
> or
>> >> Mercedes cost double in Germany or Spain than in the States. The
>> >> reason
>> > for
>> >> that could be that european makers must fight with the prices of local
>> >> makers like Ford or GM. I think again that making a car in the States
> is
>> >> much cheaper that in Europe due to the social facilities the workers
>> >> in
>> >> Europe have.
>> >>
>> >> Just imagine, I pay on taxes by the end of the year or taken directly
>> >> from
>> >> my salary about 35%, so if the company pays to me around 48000 Euros a
>> > year
>> >> "Hacienda" (our IRS) gets for the state about 16800 Euros (57908
>> >> dollars -
>> >> 20267 dollars, what www.xe.com said). And Spain is not the worst
> country
>> > in
>> >> EU related to taxes. In France and Germany I could pay for the same
>> >> salary
>> >> about a 45% on taxes. And in northern Europe like Sweden, Norway or
>> > Finland
>> >> they pay as much as 65%.
>> >>
>> >> Is this meant that the average european has less money in his pocket
> that
>> >> the average american? Not really. All the european contries has
> National
>> >> Health System which has great health assistance. I have no other
>> >> health
>> >> system than the owned by the state. I could but I don't need it. And
> all
>> >> european countries has a Social Security System which pays to you
>> >> about
>> >> 65%-90% of your salary when you are ill for a long time or when you
> raise
>> > 65
>> >> years old and you stop working for a salary (I don't remember the
> english
>> >> word... retirement?... don't know). So... if you take an american
> salary
>> > and
>> >> you add the health insurance and a retirement plan and many other
>> > facilities
>> >> that the average european pays with the taxes may be the diference is
> not
>> >> too much. May be with a person from Spain yes but not with a German.
>> >>
>> >> Which system is the best? I don't make any choice on that. I hate
> paying
>> >> taxes but when I saw how much an american pay for being in a hospital
>> >> I
>> >> think it over.
>> >>
>> >> Related to Mr. Bean - Zapatero. I must insist... Guantanamo is the
>> > solution.
>> >> He is good friend of Chavez and Castro so... you have there the reason
> to
>> >> take it into jail. ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Fidelio
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> >> news:43440c73$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
>> >> > Yeah, my first day in Spain they told me, "Los dólares no tienen
>> >> > valor",
>> >> > but
>> >> > they took my credit card OK. Don't be put off by "Doug" or his ilk.
>> >> > There
>> >> > are people like him everywhere. We get lots of French, German, and
>> >> > English
>> >> > tourists where I live, <www.silvertoncolorado.com>, but not that
>> >> > many
>> >> > Spaniards. We wonder where they are. Some people think, that they
> may
>> > be
>> >> > stand-offish and unwilling to go places, where their language is not
>> >> > spoken.
>> >> > The Mexicans and Central Americans are not so picky. In fact, if
>> >> > you
>> >> > watched the advertisements on Telemundo, Univision, or hTV, you
>> >> > would
>> > form
>> >> > the opinion, that all they care about, is learning English. It is
> the
>> >> > ticket to "la vida mejor", as one ad says. On the other hand, lots
> of
>> >> > Anglos in my country are learning Spanish too.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am not too worried about the Euro situation. I'll bet that I can
> buy
>> > a
>> >> > lot more with a dollar in the U.S., than you can buy with a Euro in
>> > Spain.
>> >> > The latinos that come into my country, legally or not, seem to like
>> >> > dollars
>> >> > too. I am not an expert on economics, but I suspect that the Euro
> may
>> > be
>> >> > over-valued.
>> >> >
>> >> > The Mr. Bean comment cracks me up. Your previous president had a
>> >> > lot
>> > more
>> >> > dress sense and better taylors, although I didn't care too much for
> his
>> >> > politics.
>> >> >
>> >> > Earle
>> >> >
>> >> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:di00o4$628$4@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> >> >> Hmmm Great news. I was thinking on visiting the States but my
> english
>> > is
>> >> >> soooo bad that I took the desicion of not going. But your note
>> >> >> helps
>> >> >> me
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> decide where in the States to go.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Funny thing is that nowadays if you know english and spanish you
>> >> >> can
>> >> > travel
>> >> >> all around the world. Some years ago you could travel only with
>> >> >> english
>> >> > but
>> >> >> the times are changing. Is like the dollar. Few years ago every
> single
>> >> > time
>> >> >> I traveled outside Europe I carried US Dollars that are accepted
>> >> >> all
>> >> > around
>> >> >> the world. Now I travel only with UE Euros... That is something for
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> worry about... not the ------ of "hispanos" population.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best Regards,
>> >> >> Fidelio
>> >> >> from Spain (UE)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> >> >> news:_Nw0f.1434$xD7.1251@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> >> >> > At least whole sections of Britain aren't
>> >> >> > speaking/reading/writing
>> >> > Spanish
>> >> >> > now. I've seen cities in Southern California where all the
>> >> >> > billboards
>> >> > are
>> >> >> > in Spanish. I've seen cities in Southern California where
> libraries
>> > no
>> >> >> > longer have the name libraries, they're now called bibliotecas.
>> > Imagine
>> >> >> > public libraries that don't have signs calling them libraries
>> > anymore.
>> >> >> > Insane. Do hispanics still get affirmative action in the USA? Too
>> >> >> > bad
>> > I
>> >> >> > don't get any affirmative action in any latino countries...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > there is no .sig
>> >> >> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:mZq0f.121355$G8.107975@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>> >> >> >> no, just legal aliens committing crimes and ending up in
>> > jail/prison.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> >> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:aeb8$43420337$d8449845$23577@FUSE.NET...
>> >> >> >>> Have you got a problem there with illegal aliens committing
> crimes
>> >> >> >>> and
>> >> >> >>> ending up in jail/prison?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> >> >> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> >> >> >>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> >> >> >>> .
>> >> >> >>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> >> >> >>> news:JTl0f.121295$G8.68978@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> >> >> >>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4305798.stm
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Apparently, prison officers having an English flag on a
> tie-pin
>> >> > given
>> >> >> >>> > as
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >>> > result of a donation to a cancer charity, is to be banned in
>> >> > Wakefield
>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >>> > "It could be misinterpreted as a racist symbol". The Chief
>> >> >> >>> > inspector
>> >> >> >>> > for
>> >> >> >>> > prisons, Anne Owens, said they were also "a cause for
> concern".
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Un-f*king*-believable.
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> >> >>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

Great. While in the New World... I though it was called Third World, at
least to the south of El Paso.... anyway while in the New World double check
the meaning of "funny" in English.

And you are free to stay at Frijolandia forever.

Hmmm anyway since I think you are not going to check it let me show you the
meaning (look at the meaning number 1, which happens to be the one I was
using):

funny
A adjective
1 curious, funny, odd, peculiar, queer, rum, rummy, singular

beyond or deviating from the usual or expected; "a curious hybrid
accent"; "her speech has a funny twang"; "they have some funny ideas about
war"; "had an odd name"; "the peculiar aromatic odor of cloves"; "something
definitely queer about this town"; "wh

2 amusing, comic, comical, funny, laughable, mirthful, risible

arousing or provoking laughter; "an amusing film with a steady
stream of pranks and pratfalls"; "an amusing fellow"; "a comic hat"; "a
comical look of surprise"; "funny stories that made everybody laugh"; "a
very funny writer"; "it would have been laughab

3 fishy, funny, queer, shady, suspect, suspicious

not as expected; "there was something fishy about the accident";
"up to some funny business"; "some definitely queer goings-on"; "a shady
deal"; "her motives were suspect"; "suspicious behavior"

4 funny

experiencing odd bodily sensations; "told the doctor about the
funny sensations in her chest"


Greatings,
Fidelio

"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:434787a8$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
> Why should I care? I am going home in five months, and already I miss the
> New World, and the Spanish accent that sounds so funny, that you cannot
> follow it. There is a Burger King here too.
>
> Earle
>
> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> news:di59um$6p4$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> Hmmm Vitoria? Ask the "batasunos" to blow that McDonald... they know how
> to
>> do it.
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:434537d8$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
>> > Those are United States television stations that I mentioned. They
>> > have
>> > ads
>> > in Spanish, touring "Inglés sin barreras" as the painless way to "la
> vida
>> > mejor". There are ads like this in Spain too. I laugh when I see
>> > them.
>> > If
>> > this is true, why am I learning Spanish?
>> >
>> > The houses in the United States are no longer made of wood, except for
>> > those
>> > bought by the very rich. They are made of cardboard and styrofoam now.
> I
>> > am not pulling your leg.
>> >
>> > I must insist, that the Spanish spoken in the new world, which is like
> the
>> > Spanish of Andalucía, has a greater acceptance, world wide, than the
>> > Castillian version. I can understand both.
>> >
>> > I am in Vitoria-Gasteiz, and there is a MacDonald's right around the
>> > corner,
>> > en la Calle Dato. If more of them are built, it will strain your
>> > socialist
>> > health care system, perhaps to the point of breaking it. And it will
> mean
>> > the end of your attractive but underfed women.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> > news:di2m6r$7jm$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> >> Why Spaniards are not traveling? Let me explain that to you... we
>> >> allow
>> >> Poland to enter into the Union just to stop being the poorest country
> in
>> > the
>> >> EU. That easy. Now that Poland is starting to improve their situation
> we
>> > are
>> >> planning to allow Turkey to go into the Union.
>> >>
>> >> In Spain we don't watch South American TVs. Basically since ASTRA or
>> >> HISPASAT which are the two satellite systems found in southern Europe
>> > don't
>> >> send the signal of those channels. I think Galavision is on ASTRA but
> for
>> > us
>> >> the South Americans accent sound so funny that we can not really
>> >> follow
>> > what
>> >> they are saying. Is something like Portuguese and Brasilian both are
>> >> suppouse to be the same language but the find the way to speak it very
>> >> strange each other.
>> >>
>> >> Now related the Euro and Dollar. When I was in the States I found that
>> >> housing is more cheap there than in Europe but those wooden made
>> >> houses
>> > you
>> >> have in the cities are not found in Europe (not even in Spain where
>> >> the
>> >> weather is goog enough). So building a home in Europe is much more
>> > expensive
>> >> that in the States.
>> >>
>> >> Another important diference are cars. An european car like BMW or Audi
> or
>> >> Mercedes cost double in Germany or Spain than in the States. The
>> >> reason
>> > for
>> >> that could be that european makers must fight with the prices of local
>> >> makers like Ford or GM. I think again that making a car in the States
> is
>> >> much cheaper that in Europe due to the social facilities the workers
>> >> in
>> >> Europe have.
>> >>
>> >> Just imagine, I pay on taxes by the end of the year or taken directly
>> >> from
>> >> my salary about 35%, so if the company pays to me around 48000 Euros a
>> > year
>> >> "Hacienda" (our IRS) gets for the state about 16800 Euros (57908
>> >> dollars -
>> >> 20267 dollars, what www.xe.com said). And Spain is not the worst
> country
>> > in
>> >> EU related to taxes. In France and Germany I could pay for the same
>> >> salary
>> >> about a 45% on taxes. And in northern Europe like Sweden, Norway or
>> > Finland
>> >> they pay as much as 65%.
>> >>
>> >> Is this meant that the average european has less money in his pocket
> that
>> >> the average american? Not really. All the european contries has
> National
>> >> Health System which has great health assistance. I have no other
>> >> health
>> >> system than the owned by the state. I could but I don't need it. And
> all
>> >> european countries has a Social Security System which pays to you
>> >> about
>> >> 65%-90% of your salary when you are ill for a long time or when you
> raise
>> > 65
>> >> years old and you stop working for a salary (I don't remember the
> english
>> >> word... retirement?... don't know). So... if you take an american
> salary
>> > and
>> >> you add the health insurance and a retirement plan and many other
>> > facilities
>> >> that the average european pays with the taxes may be the diference is
> not
>> >> too much. May be with a person from Spain yes but not with a German.
>> >>
>> >> Which system is the best? I don't make any choice on that. I hate
> paying
>> >> taxes but when I saw how much an american pay for being in a hospital
>> >> I
>> >> think it over.
>> >>
>> >> Related to Mr. Bean - Zapatero. I must insist... Guantanamo is the
>> > solution.
>> >> He is good friend of Chavez and Castro so... you have there the reason
> to
>> >> take it into jail. ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Fidelio
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> >> news:43440c73$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
>> >> > Yeah, my first day in Spain they told me, "Los dólares no tienen
>> >> > valor",
>> >> > but
>> >> > they took my credit card OK. Don't be put off by "Doug" or his ilk.
>> >> > There
>> >> > are people like him everywhere. We get lots of French, German, and
>> >> > English
>> >> > tourists where I live, <www.silvertoncolorado.com>, but not that
>> >> > many
>> >> > Spaniards. We wonder where they are. Some people think, that they
> may
>> > be
>> >> > stand-offish and unwilling to go places, where their language is not
>> >> > spoken.
>> >> > The Mexicans and Central Americans are not so picky. In fact, if
>> >> > you
>> >> > watched the advertisements on Telemundo, Univision, or hTV, you
>> >> > would
>> > form
>> >> > the opinion, that all they care about, is learning English. It is
> the
>> >> > ticket to "la vida mejor", as one ad says. On the other hand, lots
> of
>> >> > Anglos in my country are learning Spanish too.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am not too worried about the Euro situation. I'll bet that I can
> buy
>> > a
>> >> > lot more with a dollar in the U.S., than you can buy with a Euro in
>> > Spain.
>> >> > The latinos that come into my country, legally or not, seem to like
>> >> > dollars
>> >> > too. I am not an expert on economics, but I suspect that the Euro
> may
>> > be
>> >> > over-valued.
>> >> >
>> >> > The Mr. Bean comment cracks me up. Your previous president had a
>> >> > lot
>> > more
>> >> > dress sense and better taylors, although I didn't care too much for
> his
>> >> > politics.
>> >> >
>> >> > Earle
>> >> >
>> >> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:di00o4$628$4@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> >> >> Hmmm Great news. I was thinking on visiting the States but my
> english
>> > is
>> >> >> soooo bad that I took the desicion of not going. But your note
>> >> >> helps
>> >> >> me
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> decide where in the States to go.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Funny thing is that nowadays if you know english and spanish you
>> >> >> can
>> >> > travel
>> >> >> all around the world. Some years ago you could travel only with
>> >> >> english
>> >> > but
>> >> >> the times are changing. Is like the dollar. Few years ago every
> single
>> >> > time
>> >> >> I traveled outside Europe I carried US Dollars that are accepted
>> >> >> all
>> >> > around
>> >> >> the world. Now I travel only with UE Euros... That is something for
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> worry about... not the ------ of "hispanos" population.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best Regards,
>> >> >> Fidelio
>> >> >> from Spain (UE)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> >> >> news:_Nw0f.1434$xD7.1251@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> >> >> > At least whole sections of Britain aren't
>> >> >> > speaking/reading/writing
>> >> > Spanish
>> >> >> > now. I've seen cities in Southern California where all the
>> >> >> > billboards
>> >> > are
>> >> >> > in Spanish. I've seen cities in Southern California where
> libraries
>> > no
>> >> >> > longer have the name libraries, they're now called bibliotecas.
>> > Imagine
>> >> >> > public libraries that don't have signs calling them libraries
>> > anymore.
>> >> >> > Insane. Do hispanics still get affirmative action in the USA? Too
>> >> >> > bad
>> > I
>> >> >> > don't get any affirmative action in any latino countries...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > there is no .sig
>> >> >> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:mZq0f.121355$G8.107975@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>> >> >> >> no, just legal aliens committing crimes and ending up in
>> > jail/prison.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> >> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:aeb8$43420337$d8449845$23577@FUSE.NET...
>> >> >> >>> Have you got a problem there with illegal aliens committing
> crimes
>> >> >> >>> and
>> >> >> >>> ending up in jail/prison?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> >> >> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> >> >> >>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> >> >> >>> .
>> >> >> >>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> >> >> >>> news:JTl0f.121295$G8.68978@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> >> >> >>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4305798.stm
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Apparently, prison officers having an English flag on a
> tie-pin
>> >> > given
>> >> >> >>> > as
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >>> > result of a donation to a cancer charity, is to be banned in
>> >> > Wakefield
>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >>> > "It could be misinterpreted as a racist symbol". The Chief
>> >> >> >>> > inspector
>> >> >> >>> > for
>> >> >> >>> > prisons, Anne Owens, said they were also "a cause for
> concern".
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Un-f*king*-believable.
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> >> >>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

Wow. That sounds more like the Spanish that is spoken in your country.
There is something definitely queer about pronouncing "cena" as "thena". Or
at least risible. I think that you know what I mean.

This is a Jeep newsgroup. Maybe we should take this to alt.racism, or some
other place.

Earle

"Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
news:did64r$db7$3@caladan.landsraad.net...
> Great. While in the New World... I though it was called Third World, at
> least to the south of El Paso.... anyway while in the New World double
check
> the meaning of "funny" in English.
>
> And you are free to stay at Frijolandia forever.
>
> Hmmm anyway since I think you are not going to check it let me show you
the
> meaning (look at the meaning number 1, which happens to be the one I was
> using):
>
> funny
> A adjective
> 1 curious, funny, odd, peculiar, queer, rum, rummy, singular
>
> beyond or deviating from the usual or expected; "a curious hybrid
> accent"; "her speech has a funny twang"; "they have some funny ideas about
> war"; "had an odd name"; "the peculiar aromatic odor of cloves";
"something
> definitely queer about this town"; "wh
>
> 2 amusing, comic, comical, funny, laughable, mirthful, risible
>
> arousing or provoking laughter; "an amusing film with a steady
> stream of pranks and pratfalls"; "an amusing fellow"; "a comic hat"; "a
> comical look of surprise"; "funny stories that made everybody laugh"; "a
> very funny writer"; "it would have been laughab
>
> 3 fishy, funny, queer, shady, suspect, suspicious
>
> not as expected; "there was something fishy about the accident";
> "up to some funny business"; "some definitely queer goings-on"; "a shady
> deal"; "her motives were suspect"; "suspicious behavior"
>
> 4 funny
>
> experiencing odd bodily sensations; "told the doctor about the
> funny sensations in her chest"
>
>
> Greatings,
> Fidelio
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
> news:434787a8$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
> > Why should I care? I am going home in five months, and already I miss
the
> > New World, and the Spanish accent that sounds so funny, that you cannot
> > follow it. There is a Burger King here too.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> > news:di59um$6p4$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> >> Hmmm Vitoria? Ask the "batasunos" to blow that McDonald... they know
how
> > to
> >> do it.
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
> >> news:434537d8$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
> >> > Those are United States television stations that I mentioned. They
> >> > have
> >> > ads
> >> > in Spanish, touring "Inglés sin barreras" as the painless way to "la
> > vida
> >> > mejor". There are ads like this in Spain too. I laugh when I see
> >> > them.
> >> > If
> >> > this is true, why am I learning Spanish?
> >> >
> >> > The houses in the United States are no longer made of wood, except
for
> >> > those
> >> > bought by the very rich. They are made of cardboard and styrofoam
now.
> > I
> >> > am not pulling your leg.
> >> >
> >> > I must insist, that the Spanish spoken in the new world, which is
like
> > the
> >> > Spanish of Andalucía, has a greater acceptance, world wide, than the
> >> > Castillian version. I can understand both.
> >> >
> >> > I am in Vitoria-Gasteiz, and there is a MacDonald's right around the
> >> > corner,
> >> > en la Calle Dato. If more of them are built, it will strain your
> >> > socialist
> >> > health care system, perhaps to the point of breaking it. And it will
> > mean
> >> > the end of your attractive but underfed women.
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:di2m6r$7jm$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> >> >> Why Spaniards are not traveling? Let me explain that to you... we
> >> >> allow
> >> >> Poland to enter into the Union just to stop being the poorest
country
> > in
> >> > the
> >> >> EU. That easy. Now that Poland is starting to improve their
situation
> > we
> >> > are
> >> >> planning to allow Turkey to go into the Union.
> >> >>
> >> >> In Spain we don't watch South American TVs. Basically since ASTRA or
> >> >> HISPASAT which are the two satellite systems found in southern
Europe
> >> > don't
> >> >> send the signal of those channels. I think Galavision is on ASTRA
but
> > for
> >> > us
> >> >> the South Americans accent sound so funny that we can not really
> >> >> follow
> >> > what
> >> >> they are saying. Is something like Portuguese and Brasilian both are
> >> >> suppouse to be the same language but the find the way to speak it
very
> >> >> strange each other.
> >> >>
> >> >> Now related the Euro and Dollar. When I was in the States I found
that
> >> >> housing is more cheap there than in Europe but those wooden made
> >> >> houses
> >> > you
> >> >> have in the cities are not found in Europe (not even in Spain where
> >> >> the
> >> >> weather is goog enough). So building a home in Europe is much more
> >> > expensive
> >> >> that in the States.
> >> >>
> >> >> Another important diference are cars. An european car like BMW or
Audi
> > or
> >> >> Mercedes cost double in Germany or Spain than in the States. The
> >> >> reason
> >> > for
> >> >> that could be that european makers must fight with the prices of
local
> >> >> makers like Ford or GM. I think again that making a car in the
States
> > is
> >> >> much cheaper that in Europe due to the social facilities the workers
> >> >> in
> >> >> Europe have.
> >> >>
> >> >> Just imagine, I pay on taxes by the end of the year or taken
directly
> >> >> from
> >> >> my salary about 35%, so if the company pays to me around 48000 Euros
a
> >> > year
> >> >> "Hacienda" (our IRS) gets for the state about 16800 Euros (57908
> >> >> dollars -
> >> >> 20267 dollars, what www.xe.com said). And Spain is not the worst
> > country
> >> > in
> >> >> EU related to taxes. In France and Germany I could pay for the same
> >> >> salary
> >> >> about a 45% on taxes. And in northern Europe like Sweden, Norway or
> >> > Finland
> >> >> they pay as much as 65%.
> >> >>
> >> >> Is this meant that the average european has less money in his pocket
> > that
> >> >> the average american? Not really. All the european contries has
> > National
> >> >> Health System which has great health assistance. I have no other
> >> >> health
> >> >> system than the owned by the state. I could but I don't need it. And
> > all
> >> >> european countries has a Social Security System which pays to you
> >> >> about
> >> >> 65%-90% of your salary when you are ill for a long time or when you
> > raise
> >> > 65
> >> >> years old and you stop working for a salary (I don't remember the
> > english
> >> >> word... retirement?... don't know). So... if you take an american
> > salary
> >> > and
> >> >> you add the health insurance and a retirement plan and many other
> >> > facilities
> >> >> that the average european pays with the taxes may be the diference
is
> > not
> >> >> too much. May be with a person from Spain yes but not with a German.
> >> >>
> >> >> Which system is the best? I don't make any choice on that. I hate
> > paying
> >> >> taxes but when I saw how much an american pay for being in a
hospital
> >> >> I
> >> >> think it over.
> >> >>
> >> >> Related to Mr. Bean - Zapatero. I must insist... Guantanamo is the
> >> > solution.
> >> >> He is good friend of Chavez and Castro so... you have there the
reason
> > to
> >> >> take it into jail. ;-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Fidelio
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
> >> >> news:43440c73$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
> >> >> > Yeah, my first day in Spain they told me, "Los dólares no tienen
> >> >> > valor",
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > they took my credit card OK. Don't be put off by "Doug" or his
ilk.
> >> >> > There
> >> >> > are people like him everywhere. We get lots of French, German,
and
> >> >> > English
> >> >> > tourists where I live, <www.silvertoncolorado.com>, but not that
> >> >> > many
> >> >> > Spaniards. We wonder where they are. Some people think, that
they
> > may
> >> > be
> >> >> > stand-offish and unwilling to go places, where their language is
not
> >> >> > spoken.
> >> >> > The Mexicans and Central Americans are not so picky. In fact, if
> >> >> > you
> >> >> > watched the advertisements on Telemundo, Univision, or hTV, you
> >> >> > would
> >> > form
> >> >> > the opinion, that all they care about, is learning English. It is
> > the
> >> >> > ticket to "la vida mejor", as one ad says. On the other hand,
lots
> > of
> >> >> > Anglos in my country are learning Spanish too.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am not too worried about the Euro situation. I'll bet that I
can
> > buy
> >> > a
> >> >> > lot more with a dollar in the U.S., than you can buy with a Euro
in
> >> > Spain.
> >> >> > The latinos that come into my country, legally or not, seem to
like
> >> >> > dollars
> >> >> > too. I am not an expert on economics, but I suspect that the Euro
> > may
> >> > be
> >> >> > over-valued.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The Mr. Bean comment cracks me up. Your previous president had a
> >> >> > lot
> >> > more
> >> >> > dress sense and better taylors, although I didn't care too much
for
> > his
> >> >> > politics.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Earle
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:di00o4$628$4@caladan.landsraad.net...
> >> >> >> Hmmm Great news. I was thinking on visiting the States but my
> > english
> >> > is
> >> >> >> soooo bad that I took the desicion of not going. But your note
> >> >> >> helps
> >> >> >> me
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> decide where in the States to go.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Funny thing is that nowadays if you know english and spanish you
> >> >> >> can
> >> >> > travel
> >> >> >> all around the world. Some years ago you could travel only with
> >> >> >> english
> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> the times are changing. Is like the dollar. Few years ago every
> > single
> >> >> > time
> >> >> >> I traveled outside Europe I carried US Dollars that are accepted
> >> >> >> all
> >> >> > around
> >> >> >> the world. Now I travel only with UE Euros... That is something
for
> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> worry about... not the ------ of "hispanos" population.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Best Regards,
> >> >> >> Fidelio
> >> >> >> from Spain (UE)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> escribió en el mensaje
> >> >> >> news:_Nw0f.1434$xD7.1251@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
> >> >> >> > At least whole sections of Britain aren't
> >> >> >> > speaking/reading/writing
> >> >> > Spanish
> >> >> >> > now. I've seen cities in Southern California where all the
> >> >> >> > billboards
> >> >> > are
> >> >> >> > in Spanish. I've seen cities in Southern California where
> > libraries
> >> > no
> >> >> >> > longer have the name libraries, they're now called bibliotecas.
> >> > Imagine
> >> >> >> > public libraries that don't have signs calling them libraries
> >> > anymore.
> >> >> >> > Insane. Do hispanics still get affirmative action in the USA?
Too
> >> >> >> > bad
> >> > I
> >> >> >> > don't get any affirmative action in any latino countries...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > there is no .sig
> >> >> >> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:mZq0f.121355$G8.107975@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> >> >> >> >> no, just legal aliens committing crimes and ending up in
> >> > jail/prison.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> >> >> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:aeb8$43420337$d8449845$23577@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> >> >>> Have you got a problem there with illegal aliens committing
> > crimes
> >> >> >> >>> and
> >> >> >> >>> ending up in jail/prison?
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> --
> >> >> >> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >> >> >> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >> >> >> >>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> >> >> >> >>> .
> >> >> >> >>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >>> news:JTl0f.121295$G8.68978@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> >> >> >> >>> >
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4305798.stm
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> > Apparently, prison officers having an English flag on a
> > tie-pin
> >> >> > given
> >> >> >> >>> > as
> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >>> > result of a donation to a cancer charity, is to be banned
in
> >> >> > Wakefield
> >> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> >>> > "It could be misinterpreted as a racist symbol". The Chief
> >> >> >> >>> > inspector
> >> >> >> >>> > for
> >> >> >> >>> > prisons, Anne Owens, said they were also "a cause for
> > concern".
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> > Un-f*king*-believable.
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> >> >> >>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

 

Wow. That sounds more like the Spanish that is spoken in your country.
There is something definitely queer about pronouncing "cena" as "thena". Or
at least risible. I think that you know what I mean.

This is a Jeep newsgroup. Maybe we should take this to alt.racism, or some
other place.

Earle

"Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
news:did64r$db7$3@caladan.landsraad.net...
> Great. While in the New World... I though it was called Third World, at
> least to the south of El Paso.... anyway while in the New World double
check
> the meaning of "funny" in English.
>
> And you are free to stay at Frijolandia forever.
>
> Hmmm anyway since I think you are not going to check it let me show you
the
> meaning (look at the meaning number 1, which happens to be the one I was
> using):
>
> funny
> A adjective
> 1 curious, funny, odd, peculiar, queer, rum, rummy, singular
>
> beyond or deviating from the usual or expected; "a curious hybrid
> accent"; "her speech has a funny twang"; "they have some funny ideas about
> war"; "had an odd name"; "the peculiar aromatic odor of cloves";
"something
> definitely queer about this town"; "wh
>
> 2 amusing, comic, comical, funny, laughable, mirthful, risible
>
> arousing or provoking laughter; "an amusing film with a steady
> stream of pranks and pratfalls"; "an amusing fellow"; "a comic hat"; "a
> comical look of surprise"; "funny stories that made everybody laugh"; "a
> very funny writer"; "it would have been laughab
>
> 3 fishy, funny, queer, shady, suspect, suspicious
>
> not as expected; "there was something fishy about the accident";
> "up to some funny business"; "some definitely queer goings-on"; "a shady
> deal"; "her motives were suspect"; "suspicious behavior"
>
> 4 funny
>
> experiencing odd bodily sensations; "told the doctor about the
> funny sensations in her chest"
>
>
> Greatings,
> Fidelio
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
> news:434787a8$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
> > Why should I care? I am going home in five months, and already I miss
the
> > New World, and the Spanish accent that sounds so funny, that you cannot
> > follow it. There is a Burger King here too.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> > news:di59um$6p4$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> >> Hmmm Vitoria? Ask the "batasunos" to blow that McDonald... they know
how
> > to
> >> do it.
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
> >> news:434537d8$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
> >> > Those are United States television stations that I mentioned. They
> >> > have
> >> > ads
> >> > in Spanish, touring "Inglés sin barreras" as the painless way to "la
> > vida
> >> > mejor". There are ads like this in Spain too. I laugh when I see
> >> > them.
> >> > If
> >> > this is true, why am I learning Spanish?
> >> >
> >> > The houses in the United States are no longer made of wood, except
for
> >> > those
> >> > bought by the very rich. They are made of cardboard and styrofoam
now.
> > I
> >> > am not pulling your leg.
> >> >
> >> > I must insist, that the Spanish spoken in the new world, which is
like
> > the
> >> > Spanish of Andalucía, has a greater acceptance, world wide, than the
> >> > Castillian version. I can understand both.
> >> >
> >> > I am in Vitoria-Gasteiz, and there is a MacDonald's right around the
> >> > corner,
> >> > en la Calle Dato. If more of them are built, it will strain your
> >> > socialist
> >> > health care system, perhaps to the point of breaking it. And it will
> > mean
> >> > the end of your attractive but underfed women.
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:di2m6r$7jm$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> >> >> Why Spaniards are not traveling? Let me explain that to you... we
> >> >> allow
> >> >> Poland to enter into the Union just to stop being the poorest
country
> > in
> >> > the
> >> >> EU. That easy. Now that Poland is starting to improve their
situation
> > we
> >> > are
> >> >> planning to allow Turkey to go into the Union.
> >> >>
> >> >> In Spain we don't watch South American TVs. Basically since ASTRA or
> >> >> HISPASAT which are the two satellite systems found in southern
Europe
> >> > don't
> >> >> send the signal of those channels. I think Galavision is on ASTRA
but
> > for
> >> > us
> >> >> the South Americans accent sound so funny that we can not really
> >> >> follow
> >> > what
> >> >> they are saying. Is something like Portuguese and Brasilian both are
> >> >> suppouse to be the same language but the find the way to speak it
very
> >> >> strange each other.
> >> >>
> >> >> Now related the Euro and Dollar. When I was in the States I found
that
> >> >> housing is more cheap there than in Europe but those wooden made
> >> >> houses
> >> > you
> >> >> have in the cities are not found in Europe (not even in Spain where
> >> >> the
> >> >> weather is goog enough). So building a home in Europe is much more
> >> > expensive
> >> >> that in the States.
> >> >>
> >> >> Another important diference are cars. An european car like BMW or
Audi
> > or
> >> >> Mercedes cost double in Germany or Spain than in the States. The
> >> >> reason
> >> > for
> >> >> that could be that european makers must fight with the prices of
local
> >> >> makers like Ford or GM. I think again that making a car in the
States
> > is
> >> >> much cheaper that in Europe due to the social facilities the workers
> >> >> in
> >> >> Europe have.
> >> >>
> >> >> Just imagine, I pay on taxes by the end of the year or taken
directly
> >> >> from
> >> >> my salary about 35%, so if the company pays to me around 48000 Euros
a
> >> > year
> >> >> "Hacienda" (our IRS) gets for the state about 16800 Euros (57908
> >> >> dollars -
> >> >> 20267 dollars, what www.xe.com said). And Spain is not the worst
> > country
> >> > in
> >> >> EU related to taxes. In France and Germany I could pay for the same
> >> >> salary
> >> >> about a 45% on taxes. And in northern Europe like Sweden, Norway or
> >> > Finland
> >> >> they pay as much as 65%.
> >> >>
> >> >> Is this meant that the average european has less money in his pocket
> > that
> >> >> the average american? Not really. All the european contries has
> > National
> >> >> Health System which has great health assistance. I have no other
> >> >> health
> >> >> system than the owned by the state. I could but I don't need it. And
> > all
> >> >> european countries has a Social Security System which pays to you
> >> >> about
> >> >> 65%-90% of your salary when you are ill for a long time or when you
> > raise
> >> > 65
> >> >> years old and you stop working for a salary (I don't remember the
> > english
> >> >> word... retirement?... don't know). So... if you take an american
> > salary
> >> > and
> >> >> you add the health insurance and a retirement plan and many other
> >> > facilities
> >> >> that the average european pays with the taxes may be the diference
is
> > not
> >> >> too much. May be with a person from Spain yes but not with a German.
> >> >>
> >> >> Which system is the best? I don't make any choice on that. I hate
> > paying
> >> >> taxes but when I saw how much an american pay for being in a
hospital
> >> >> I
> >> >> think it over.
> >> >>
> >> >> Related to Mr. Bean - Zapatero. I must insist... Guantanamo is the
> >> > solution.
> >> >> He is good friend of Chavez and Castro so... you have there the
reason
> > to
> >> >> take it into jail. ;-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Fidelio
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
> >> >> news:43440c73$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
> >> >> > Yeah, my first day in Spain they told me, "Los dólares no tienen
> >> >> > valor",
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > they took my credit card OK. Don't be put off by "Doug" or his
ilk.
> >> >> > There
> >> >> > are people like him everywhere. We get lots of French, German,
and
> >> >> > English
> >> >> > tourists where I live, <www.silvertoncolorado.com>, but not that
> >> >> > many
> >> >> > Spaniards. We wonder where they are. Some people think, that
they
> > may
> >> > be
> >> >> > stand-offish and unwilling to go places, where their language is
not
> >> >> > spoken.
> >> >> > The Mexicans and Central Americans are not so picky. In fact, if
> >> >> > you
> >> >> > watched the advertisements on Telemundo, Univision, or hTV, you
> >> >> > would
> >> > form
> >> >> > the opinion, that all they care about, is learning English. It is
> > the
> >> >> > ticket to "la vida mejor", as one ad says. On the other hand,
lots
> > of
> >> >> > Anglos in my country are learning Spanish too.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am not too worried about the Euro situation. I'll bet that I
can
> > buy
> >> > a
> >> >> > lot more with a dollar in the U.S., than you can buy with a Euro
in
> >> > Spain.
> >> >> > The latinos that come into my country, legally or not, seem to
like
> >> >> > dollars
> >> >> > too. I am not an expert on economics, but I suspect that the Euro
> > may
> >> > be
> >> >> > over-valued.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The Mr. Bean comment cracks me up. Your previous president had a
> >> >> > lot
> >> > more
> >> >> > dress sense and better taylors, although I didn't care too much
for
> > his
> >> >> > politics.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Earle
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:di00o4$628$4@caladan.landsraad.net...
> >> >> >> Hmmm Great news. I was thinking on visiting the States but my
> > english
> >> > is
> >> >> >> soooo bad that I took the desicion of not going. But your note
> >> >> >> helps
> >> >> >> me
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> decide where in the States to go.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Funny thing is that nowadays if you know english and spanish you
> >> >> >> can
> >> >> > travel
> >> >> >> all around the world. Some years ago you could travel only with
> >> >> >> english
> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> the times are changing. Is like the dollar. Few years ago every
> > single
> >> >> > time
> >> >> >> I traveled outside Europe I carried US Dollars that are accepted
> >> >> >> all
> >> >> > around
> >> >> >> the world. Now I travel only with UE Euros... That is something
for
> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> worry about... not the ------ of "hispanos" population.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Best Regards,
> >> >> >> Fidelio
> >> >> >> from Spain (UE)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> escribió en el mensaje
> >> >> >> news:_Nw0f.1434$xD7.1251@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
> >> >> >> > At least whole sections of Britain aren't
> >> >> >> > speaking/reading/writing
> >> >> > Spanish
> >> >> >> > now. I've seen cities in Southern California where all the
> >> >> >> > billboards
> >> >> > are
> >> >> >> > in Spanish. I've seen cities in Southern California where
> > libraries
> >> > no
> >> >> >> > longer have the name libraries, they're now called bibliotecas.
> >> > Imagine
> >> >> >> > public libraries that don't have signs calling them libraries
> >> > anymore.
> >> >> >> > Insane. Do hispanics still get affirmative action in the USA?
Too
> >> >> >> > bad
> >> > I
> >> >> >> > don't get any affirmative action in any latino countries...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > there is no .sig
> >> >> >> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:mZq0f.121355$G8.107975@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> >> >> >> >> no, just legal aliens committing crimes and ending up in
> >> > jail/prison.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> >> >> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:aeb8$43420337$d8449845$23577@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> >> >>> Have you got a problem there with illegal aliens committing
> > crimes
> >> >> >> >>> and
> >> >> >> >>> ending up in jail/prison?
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> --
> >> >> >> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >> >> >> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >> >> >> >>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> >> >> >> >>> .
> >> >> >> >>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >>> news:JTl0f.121295$G8.68978@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> >> >> >> >>> >
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4305798.stm
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> > Apparently, prison officers having an English flag on a
> > tie-pin
> >> >> > given
> >> >> >> >>> > as
> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >>> > result of a donation to a cancer charity, is to be banned
in
> >> >> > Wakefield
> >> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> >>> > "It could be misinterpreted as a racist symbol". The Chief
> >> >> >> >>> > inspector
> >> >> >> >>> > for
> >> >> >> >>> > prisons, Anne Owens, said they were also "a cause for
> > concern".
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> > Un-f*king*-believable.
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> >> >> >>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

 

Wow. That sounds more like the Spanish that is spoken in your country.
There is something definitely queer about pronouncing "cena" as "thena". Or
at least risible. I think that you know what I mean.

This is a Jeep newsgroup. Maybe we should take this to alt.racism, or some
other place.

Earle

"Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
news:did64r$db7$3@caladan.landsraad.net...
> Great. While in the New World... I though it was called Third World, at
> least to the south of El Paso.... anyway while in the New World double
check
> the meaning of "funny" in English.
>
> And you are free to stay at Frijolandia forever.
>
> Hmmm anyway since I think you are not going to check it let me show you
the
> meaning (look at the meaning number 1, which happens to be the one I was
> using):
>
> funny
> A adjective
> 1 curious, funny, odd, peculiar, queer, rum, rummy, singular
>
> beyond or deviating from the usual or expected; "a curious hybrid
> accent"; "her speech has a funny twang"; "they have some funny ideas about
> war"; "had an odd name"; "the peculiar aromatic odor of cloves";
"something
> definitely queer about this town"; "wh
>
> 2 amusing, comic, comical, funny, laughable, mirthful, risible
>
> arousing or provoking laughter; "an amusing film with a steady
> stream of pranks and pratfalls"; "an amusing fellow"; "a comic hat"; "a
> comical look of surprise"; "funny stories that made everybody laugh"; "a
> very funny writer"; "it would have been laughab
>
> 3 fishy, funny, queer, shady, suspect, suspicious
>
> not as expected; "there was something fishy about the accident";
> "up to some funny business"; "some definitely queer goings-on"; "a shady
> deal"; "her motives were suspect"; "suspicious behavior"
>
> 4 funny
>
> experiencing odd bodily sensations; "told the doctor about the
> funny sensations in her chest"
>
>
> Greatings,
> Fidelio
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
> news:434787a8$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
> > Why should I care? I am going home in five months, and already I miss
the
> > New World, and the Spanish accent that sounds so funny, that you cannot
> > follow it. There is a Burger King here too.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> > news:di59um$6p4$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> >> Hmmm Vitoria? Ask the "batasunos" to blow that McDonald... they know
how
> > to
> >> do it.
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
> >> news:434537d8$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
> >> > Those are United States television stations that I mentioned. They
> >> > have
> >> > ads
> >> > in Spanish, touring "Inglés sin barreras" as the painless way to "la
> > vida
> >> > mejor". There are ads like this in Spain too. I laugh when I see
> >> > them.
> >> > If
> >> > this is true, why am I learning Spanish?
> >> >
> >> > The houses in the United States are no longer made of wood, except
for
> >> > those
> >> > bought by the very rich. They are made of cardboard and styrofoam
now.
> > I
> >> > am not pulling your leg.
> >> >
> >> > I must insist, that the Spanish spoken in the new world, which is
like
> > the
> >> > Spanish of Andalucía, has a greater acceptance, world wide, than the
> >> > Castillian version. I can understand both.
> >> >
> >> > I am in Vitoria-Gasteiz, and there is a MacDonald's right around the
> >> > corner,
> >> > en la Calle Dato. If more of them are built, it will strain your
> >> > socialist
> >> > health care system, perhaps to the point of breaking it. And it will
> > mean
> >> > the end of your attractive but underfed women.
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:di2m6r$7jm$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> >> >> Why Spaniards are not traveling? Let me explain that to you... we
> >> >> allow
> >> >> Poland to enter into the Union just to stop being the poorest
country
> > in
> >> > the
> >> >> EU. That easy. Now that Poland is starting to improve their
situation
> > we
> >> > are
> >> >> planning to allow Turkey to go into the Union.
> >> >>
> >> >> In Spain we don't watch South American TVs. Basically since ASTRA or
> >> >> HISPASAT which are the two satellite systems found in southern
Europe
> >> > don't
> >> >> send the signal of those channels. I think Galavision is on ASTRA
but
> > for
> >> > us
> >> >> the South Americans accent sound so funny that we can not really
> >> >> follow
> >> > what
> >> >> they are saying. Is something like Portuguese and Brasilian both are
> >> >> suppouse to be the same language but the find the way to speak it
very
> >> >> strange each other.
> >> >>
> >> >> Now related the Euro and Dollar. When I was in the States I found
that
> >> >> housing is more cheap there than in Europe but those wooden made
> >> >> houses
> >> > you
> >> >> have in the cities are not found in Europe (not even in Spain where
> >> >> the
> >> >> weather is goog enough). So building a home in Europe is much more
> >> > expensive
> >> >> that in the States.
> >> >>
> >> >> Another important diference are cars. An european car like BMW or
Audi
> > or
> >> >> Mercedes cost double in Germany or Spain than in the States. The
> >> >> reason
> >> > for
> >> >> that could be that european makers must fight with the prices of
local
> >> >> makers like Ford or GM. I think again that making a car in the
States
> > is
> >> >> much cheaper that in Europe due to the social facilities the workers
> >> >> in
> >> >> Europe have.
> >> >>
> >> >> Just imagine, I pay on taxes by the end of the year or taken
directly
> >> >> from
> >> >> my salary about 35%, so if the company pays to me around 48000 Euros
a
> >> > year
> >> >> "Hacienda" (our IRS) gets for the state about 16800 Euros (57908
> >> >> dollars -
> >> >> 20267 dollars, what www.xe.com said). And Spain is not the worst
> > country
> >> > in
> >> >> EU related to taxes. In France and Germany I could pay for the same
> >> >> salary
> >> >> about a 45% on taxes. And in northern Europe like Sweden, Norway or
> >> > Finland
> >> >> they pay as much as 65%.
> >> >>
> >> >> Is this meant that the average european has less money in his pocket
> > that
> >> >> the average american? Not really. All the european contries has
> > National
> >> >> Health System which has great health assistance. I have no other
> >> >> health
> >> >> system than the owned by the state. I could but I don't need it. And
> > all
> >> >> european countries has a Social Security System which pays to you
> >> >> about
> >> >> 65%-90% of your salary when you are ill for a long time or when you
> > raise
> >> > 65
> >> >> years old and you stop working for a salary (I don't remember the
> > english
> >> >> word... retirement?... don't know). So... if you take an american
> > salary
> >> > and
> >> >> you add the health insurance and a retirement plan and many other
> >> > facilities
> >> >> that the average european pays with the taxes may be the diference
is
> > not
> >> >> too much. May be with a person from Spain yes but not with a German.
> >> >>
> >> >> Which system is the best? I don't make any choice on that. I hate
> > paying
> >> >> taxes but when I saw how much an american pay for being in a
hospital
> >> >> I
> >> >> think it over.
> >> >>
> >> >> Related to Mr. Bean - Zapatero. I must insist... Guantanamo is the
> >> > solution.
> >> >> He is good friend of Chavez and Castro so... you have there the
reason
> > to
> >> >> take it into jail. ;-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Fidelio
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
> >> >> news:43440c73$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
> >> >> > Yeah, my first day in Spain they told me, "Los dólares no tienen
> >> >> > valor",
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > they took my credit card OK. Don't be put off by "Doug" or his
ilk.
> >> >> > There
> >> >> > are people like him everywhere. We get lots of French, German,
and
> >> >> > English
> >> >> > tourists where I live, <www.silvertoncolorado.com>, but not that
> >> >> > many
> >> >> > Spaniards. We wonder where they are. Some people think, that
they
> > may
> >> > be
> >> >> > stand-offish and unwilling to go places, where their language is
not
> >> >> > spoken.
> >> >> > The Mexicans and Central Americans are not so picky. In fact, if
> >> >> > you
> >> >> > watched the advertisements on Telemundo, Univision, or hTV, you
> >> >> > would
> >> > form
> >> >> > the opinion, that all they care about, is learning English. It is
> > the
> >> >> > ticket to "la vida mejor", as one ad says. On the other hand,
lots
> > of
> >> >> > Anglos in my country are learning Spanish too.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am not too worried about the Euro situation. I'll bet that I
can
> > buy
> >> > a
> >> >> > lot more with a dollar in the U.S., than you can buy with a Euro
in
> >> > Spain.
> >> >> > The latinos that come into my country, legally or not, seem to
like
> >> >> > dollars
> >> >> > too. I am not an expert on economics, but I suspect that the Euro
> > may
> >> > be
> >> >> > over-valued.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The Mr. Bean comment cracks me up. Your previous president had a
> >> >> > lot
> >> > more
> >> >> > dress sense and better taylors, although I didn't care too much
for
> > his
> >> >> > politics.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Earle
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:di00o4$628$4@caladan.landsraad.net...
> >> >> >> Hmmm Great news. I was thinking on visiting the States but my
> > english
> >> > is
> >> >> >> soooo bad that I took the desicion of not going. But your note
> >> >> >> helps
> >> >> >> me
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> decide where in the States to go.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Funny thing is that nowadays if you know english and spanish you
> >> >> >> can
> >> >> > travel
> >> >> >> all around the world. Some years ago you could travel only with
> >> >> >> english
> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> the times are changing. Is like the dollar. Few years ago every
> > single
> >> >> > time
> >> >> >> I traveled outside Europe I carried US Dollars that are accepted
> >> >> >> all
> >> >> > around
> >> >> >> the world. Now I travel only with UE Euros... That is something
for
> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> worry about... not the ------ of "hispanos" population.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Best Regards,
> >> >> >> Fidelio
> >> >> >> from Spain (UE)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> escribió en el mensaje
> >> >> >> news:_Nw0f.1434$xD7.1251@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
> >> >> >> > At least whole sections of Britain aren't
> >> >> >> > speaking/reading/writing
> >> >> > Spanish
> >> >> >> > now. I've seen cities in Southern California where all the
> >> >> >> > billboards
> >> >> > are
> >> >> >> > in Spanish. I've seen cities in Southern California where
> > libraries
> >> > no
> >> >> >> > longer have the name libraries, they're now called bibliotecas.
> >> > Imagine
> >> >> >> > public libraries that don't have signs calling them libraries
> >> > anymore.
> >> >> >> > Insane. Do hispanics still get affirmative action in the USA?
Too
> >> >> >> > bad
> >> > I
> >> >> >> > don't get any affirmative action in any latino countries...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > there is no .sig
> >> >> >> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:mZq0f.121355$G8.107975@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> >> >> >> >> no, just legal aliens committing crimes and ending up in
> >> > jail/prison.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> >> >> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:aeb8$43420337$d8449845$23577@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> >> >>> Have you got a problem there with illegal aliens committing
> > crimes
> >> >> >> >>> and
> >> >> >> >>> ending up in jail/prison?
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> --
> >> >> >> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >> >> >> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >> >> >> >>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> >> >> >> >>> .
> >> >> >> >>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >>> news:JTl0f.121295$G8.68978@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> >> >> >> >>> >
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4305798.stm
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> > Apparently, prison officers having an English flag on a
> > tie-pin
> >> >> > given
> >> >> >> >>> > as
> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >>> > result of a donation to a cancer charity, is to be banned
in
> >> >> > Wakefield
> >> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> >>> > "It could be misinterpreted as a racist symbol". The Chief
> >> >> >> >>> > inspector
> >> >> >> >>> > for
> >> >> >> >>> > prisons, Anne Owens, said they were also "a cause for
> > concern".
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> > Un-f*king*-believable.
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> >> >> >>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

 

Ok I found it.

rec.frijolrefrito.racism.es

"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:434a9c11$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
> Wow. That sounds more like the Spanish that is spoken in your country.
> There is something definitely queer about pronouncing "cena" as "thena".
> Or
> at least risible. I think that you know what I mean.
>
> This is a Jeep newsgroup. Maybe we should take this to alt.racism, or
> some
> other place.
>
> Earle
>
> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> news:did64r$db7$3@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> Great. While in the New World... I though it was called Third World, at
>> least to the south of El Paso.... anyway while in the New World double
> check
>> the meaning of "funny" in English.
>>
>> And you are free to stay at Frijolandia forever.
>>
>> Hmmm anyway since I think you are not going to check it let me show you
> the
>> meaning (look at the meaning number 1, which happens to be the one I was
>> using):
>>
>> funny
>> A adjective
>> 1 curious, funny, odd, peculiar, queer, rum, rummy, singular
>>
>> beyond or deviating from the usual or expected; "a curious
>> hybrid
>> accent"; "her speech has a funny twang"; "they have some funny ideas
>> about
>> war"; "had an odd name"; "the peculiar aromatic odor of cloves";
> "something
>> definitely queer about this town"; "wh
>>
>> 2 amusing, comic, comical, funny, laughable, mirthful, risible
>>
>> arousing or provoking laughter; "an amusing film with a steady
>> stream of pranks and pratfalls"; "an amusing fellow"; "a comic hat"; "a
>> comical look of surprise"; "funny stories that made everybody laugh"; "a
>> very funny writer"; "it would have been laughab
>>
>> 3 fishy, funny, queer, shady, suspect, suspicious
>>
>> not as expected; "there was something fishy about the accident";
>> "up to some funny business"; "some definitely queer goings-on"; "a shady
>> deal"; "her motives were suspect"; "suspicious behavior"
>>
>> 4 funny
>>
>> experiencing odd bodily sensations; "told the doctor about the
>> funny sensations in her chest"
>>
>>
>> Greatings,
>> Fidelio
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:434787a8$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
>> > Why should I care? I am going home in five months, and already I miss
> the
>> > New World, and the Spanish accent that sounds so funny, that you cannot
>> > follow it. There is a Burger King here too.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> > news:di59um$6p4$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> >> Hmmm Vitoria? Ask the "batasunos" to blow that McDonald... they know
> how
>> > to
>> >> do it.
>> >>
>> >> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> >> news:434537d8$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
>> >> > Those are United States television stations that I mentioned. They
>> >> > have
>> >> > ads
>> >> > in Spanish, touring "Inglés sin barreras" as the painless way to "la
>> > vida
>> >> > mejor". There are ads like this in Spain too. I laugh when I see
>> >> > them.
>> >> > If
>> >> > this is true, why am I learning Spanish?
>> >> >
>> >> > The houses in the United States are no longer made of wood, except
> for
>> >> > those
>> >> > bought by the very rich. They are made of cardboard and styrofoam
> now.
>> > I
>> >> > am not pulling your leg.
>> >> >
>> >> > I must insist, that the Spanish spoken in the new world, which is
> like
>> > the
>> >> > Spanish of Andalucía, has a greater acceptance, world wide, than the
>> >> > Castillian version. I can understand both.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am in Vitoria-Gasteiz, and there is a MacDonald's right around the
>> >> > corner,
>> >> > en la Calle Dato. If more of them are built, it will strain your
>> >> > socialist
>> >> > health care system, perhaps to the point of breaking it. And it
>> >> > will
>> > mean
>> >> > the end of your attractive but underfed women.
>> >> >
>> >> > Earle
>> >> >
>> >> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:di2m6r$7jm$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> >> >> Why Spaniards are not traveling? Let me explain that to you... we
>> >> >> allow
>> >> >> Poland to enter into the Union just to stop being the poorest
> country
>> > in
>> >> > the
>> >> >> EU. That easy. Now that Poland is starting to improve their
> situation
>> > we
>> >> > are
>> >> >> planning to allow Turkey to go into the Union.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In Spain we don't watch South American TVs. Basically since ASTRA
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> HISPASAT which are the two satellite systems found in southern
> Europe
>> >> > don't
>> >> >> send the signal of those channels. I think Galavision is on ASTRA
> but
>> > for
>> >> > us
>> >> >> the South Americans accent sound so funny that we can not really
>> >> >> follow
>> >> > what
>> >> >> they are saying. Is something like Portuguese and Brasilian both
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> suppouse to be the same language but the find the way to speak it
> very
>> >> >> strange each other.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Now related the Euro and Dollar. When I was in the States I found
> that
>> >> >> housing is more cheap there than in Europe but those wooden made
>> >> >> houses
>> >> > you
>> >> >> have in the cities are not found in Europe (not even in Spain where
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> weather is goog enough). So building a home in Europe is much more
>> >> > expensive
>> >> >> that in the States.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Another important diference are cars. An european car like BMW or
> Audi
>> > or
>> >> >> Mercedes cost double in Germany or Spain than in the States. The
>> >> >> reason
>> >> > for
>> >> >> that could be that european makers must fight with the prices of
> local
>> >> >> makers like Ford or GM. I think again that making a car in the
> States
>> > is
>> >> >> much cheaper that in Europe due to the social facilities the
>> >> >> workers
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> Europe have.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Just imagine, I pay on taxes by the end of the year or taken
> directly
>> >> >> from
>> >> >> my salary about 35%, so if the company pays to me around 48000
>> >> >> Euros
> a
>> >> > year
>> >> >> "Hacienda" (our IRS) gets for the state about 16800 Euros (57908
>> >> >> dollars -
>> >> >> 20267 dollars, what www.xe.com said). And Spain is not the worst
>> > country
>> >> > in
>> >> >> EU related to taxes. In France and Germany I could pay for the same
>> >> >> salary
>> >> >> about a 45% on taxes. And in northern Europe like Sweden, Norway or
>> >> > Finland
>> >> >> they pay as much as 65%.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Is this meant that the average european has less money in his
>> >> >> pocket
>> > that
>> >> >> the average american? Not really. All the european contries has
>> > National
>> >> >> Health System which has great health assistance. I have no other
>> >> >> health
>> >> >> system than the owned by the state. I could but I don't need it.
>> >> >> And
>> > all
>> >> >> european countries has a Social Security System which pays to you
>> >> >> about
>> >> >> 65%-90% of your salary when you are ill for a long time or when you
>> > raise
>> >> > 65
>> >> >> years old and you stop working for a salary (I don't remember the
>> > english
>> >> >> word... retirement?... don't know). So... if you take an american
>> > salary
>> >> > and
>> >> >> you add the health insurance and a retirement plan and many other
>> >> > facilities
>> >> >> that the average european pays with the taxes may be the diference
> is
>> > not
>> >> >> too much. May be with a person from Spain yes but not with a
>> >> >> German.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Which system is the best? I don't make any choice on that. I hate
>> > paying
>> >> >> taxes but when I saw how much an american pay for being in a
> hospital
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> think it over.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Related to Mr. Bean - Zapatero. I must insist... Guantanamo is the
>> >> > solution.
>> >> >> He is good friend of Chavez and Castro so... you have there the
> reason
>> > to
>> >> >> take it into jail. ;-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Fidelio
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el
>> >> >> mensaje
>> >> >> news:43440c73$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
>> >> >> > Yeah, my first day in Spain they told me, "Los dólares no tienen
>> >> >> > valor",
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > they took my credit card OK. Don't be put off by "Doug" or his
> ilk.
>> >> >> > There
>> >> >> > are people like him everywhere. We get lots of French, German,
> and
>> >> >> > English
>> >> >> > tourists where I live, <www.silvertoncolorado.com>, but not that
>> >> >> > many
>> >> >> > Spaniards. We wonder where they are. Some people think, that
> they
>> > may
>> >> > be
>> >> >> > stand-offish and unwilling to go places, where their language is
> not
>> >> >> > spoken.
>> >> >> > The Mexicans and Central Americans are not so picky. In fact, if
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > watched the advertisements on Telemundo, Univision, or hTV, you
>> >> >> > would
>> >> > form
>> >> >> > the opinion, that all they care about, is learning English. It
>> >> >> > is
>> > the
>> >> >> > ticket to "la vida mejor", as one ad says. On the other hand,
> lots
>> > of
>> >> >> > Anglos in my country are learning Spanish too.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I am not too worried about the Euro situation. I'll bet that I
> can
>> > buy
>> >> > a
>> >> >> > lot more with a dollar in the U.S., than you can buy with a Euro
> in
>> >> > Spain.
>> >> >> > The latinos that come into my country, legally or not, seem to
> like
>> >> >> > dollars
>> >> >> > too. I am not an expert on economics, but I suspect that the
>> >> >> > Euro
>> > may
>> >> > be
>> >> >> > over-valued.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The Mr. Bean comment cracks me up. Your previous president had a
>> >> >> > lot
>> >> > more
>> >> >> > dress sense and better taylors, although I didn't care too much
> for
>> > his
>> >> >> > politics.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Earle
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:di00o4$628$4@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> >> >> >> Hmmm Great news. I was thinking on visiting the States but my
>> > english
>> >> > is
>> >> >> >> soooo bad that I took the desicion of not going. But your note
>> >> >> >> helps
>> >> >> >> me
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> decide where in the States to go.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Funny thing is that nowadays if you know english and spanish you
>> >> >> >> can
>> >> >> > travel
>> >> >> >> all around the world. Some years ago you could travel only with
>> >> >> >> english
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> >> the times are changing. Is like the dollar. Few years ago every
>> > single
>> >> >> > time
>> >> >> >> I traveled outside Europe I carried US Dollars that are accepted
>> >> >> >> all
>> >> >> > around
>> >> >> >> the world. Now I travel only with UE Euros... That is something
> for
>> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> worry about... not the ------ of "hispanos" population.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Best Regards,
>> >> >> >> Fidelio
>> >> >> >> from Spain (UE)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> >> >> >> news:_Nw0f.1434$xD7.1251@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> >> >> >> > At least whole sections of Britain aren't
>> >> >> >> > speaking/reading/writing
>> >> >> > Spanish
>> >> >> >> > now. I've seen cities in Southern California where all the
>> >> >> >> > billboards
>> >> >> > are
>> >> >> >> > in Spanish. I've seen cities in Southern California where
>> > libraries
>> >> > no
>> >> >> >> > longer have the name libraries, they're now called
>> >> >> >> > bibliotecas.
>> >> > Imagine
>> >> >> >> > public libraries that don't have signs calling them libraries
>> >> > anymore.
>> >> >> >> > Insane. Do hispanics still get affirmative action in the USA?
> Too
>> >> >> >> > bad
>> >> > I
>> >> >> >> > don't get any affirmative action in any latino countries...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > there is no .sig
>> >> >> >> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > news:mZq0f.121355$G8.107975@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>> >> >> >> >> no, just legal aliens committing crimes and ending up in
>> >> > jail/prison.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> >> >> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> news:aeb8$43420337$d8449845$23577@FUSE.NET...
>> >> >> >> >>> Have you got a problem there with illegal aliens committing
>> > crimes
>> >> >> >> >>> and
>> >> >> >> >>> ending up in jail/prison?
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> >> >> >> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> >> >> >> >>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> >> >> >> >>> .
>> >> >> >> >>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >>> news:JTl0f.121295$G8.68978@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> >> >> >> >>> >
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4305798.stm
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> > Apparently, prison officers having an English flag on a
>> > tie-pin
>> >> >> > given
>> >> >> >> >>> > as
>> >> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> >>> > result of a donation to a cancer charity, is to be banned
> in
>> >> >> > Wakefield
>> >> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> >>> > "It could be misinterpreted as a racist symbol". The Chief
>> >> >> >> >>> > inspector
>> >> >> >> >>> > for
>> >> >> >> >>> > prisons, Anne Owens, said they were also "a cause for
>> > concern".
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> > Un-f*king*-believable.
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> >> >> >>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

Ok I found it.

rec.frijolrefrito.racism.es

"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:434a9c11$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
> Wow. That sounds more like the Spanish that is spoken in your country.
> There is something definitely queer about pronouncing "cena" as "thena".
> Or
> at least risible. I think that you know what I mean.
>
> This is a Jeep newsgroup. Maybe we should take this to alt.racism, or
> some
> other place.
>
> Earle
>
> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> news:did64r$db7$3@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> Great. While in the New World... I though it was called Third World, at
>> least to the south of El Paso.... anyway while in the New World double
> check
>> the meaning of "funny" in English.
>>
>> And you are free to stay at Frijolandia forever.
>>
>> Hmmm anyway since I think you are not going to check it let me show you
> the
>> meaning (look at the meaning number 1, which happens to be the one I was
>> using):
>>
>> funny
>> A adjective
>> 1 curious, funny, odd, peculiar, queer, rum, rummy, singular
>>
>> beyond or deviating from the usual or expected; "a curious
>> hybrid
>> accent"; "her speech has a funny twang"; "they have some funny ideas
>> about
>> war"; "had an odd name"; "the peculiar aromatic odor of cloves";
> "something
>> definitely queer about this town"; "wh
>>
>> 2 amusing, comic, comical, funny, laughable, mirthful, risible
>>
>> arousing or provoking laughter; "an amusing film with a steady
>> stream of pranks and pratfalls"; "an amusing fellow"; "a comic hat"; "a
>> comical look of surprise"; "funny stories that made everybody laugh"; "a
>> very funny writer"; "it would have been laughab
>>
>> 3 fishy, funny, queer, shady, suspect, suspicious
>>
>> not as expected; "there was something fishy about the accident";
>> "up to some funny business"; "some definitely queer goings-on"; "a shady
>> deal"; "her motives were suspect"; "suspicious behavior"
>>
>> 4 funny
>>
>> experiencing odd bodily sensations; "told the doctor about the
>> funny sensations in her chest"
>>
>>
>> Greatings,
>> Fidelio
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:434787a8$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
>> > Why should I care? I am going home in five months, and already I miss
> the
>> > New World, and the Spanish accent that sounds so funny, that you cannot
>> > follow it. There is a Burger King here too.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> > news:di59um$6p4$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> >> Hmmm Vitoria? Ask the "batasunos" to blow that McDonald... they know
> how
>> > to
>> >> do it.
>> >>
>> >> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> >> news:434537d8$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
>> >> > Those are United States television stations that I mentioned. They
>> >> > have
>> >> > ads
>> >> > in Spanish, touring "Inglés sin barreras" as the painless way to "la
>> > vida
>> >> > mejor". There are ads like this in Spain too. I laugh when I see
>> >> > them.
>> >> > If
>> >> > this is true, why am I learning Spanish?
>> >> >
>> >> > The houses in the United States are no longer made of wood, except
> for
>> >> > those
>> >> > bought by the very rich. They are made of cardboard and styrofoam
> now.
>> > I
>> >> > am not pulling your leg.
>> >> >
>> >> > I must insist, that the Spanish spoken in the new world, which is
> like
>> > the
>> >> > Spanish of Andalucía, has a greater acceptance, world wide, than the
>> >> > Castillian version. I can understand both.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am in Vitoria-Gasteiz, and there is a MacDonald's right around the
>> >> > corner,
>> >> > en la Calle Dato. If more of them are built, it will strain your
>> >> > socialist
>> >> > health care system, perhaps to the point of breaking it. And it
>> >> > will
>> > mean
>> >> > the end of your attractive but underfed women.
>> >> >
>> >> > Earle
>> >> >
>> >> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:di2m6r$7jm$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> >> >> Why Spaniards are not traveling? Let me explain that to you... we
>> >> >> allow
>> >> >> Poland to enter into the Union just to stop being the poorest
> country
>> > in
>> >> > the
>> >> >> EU. That easy. Now that Poland is starting to improve their
> situation
>> > we
>> >> > are
>> >> >> planning to allow Turkey to go into the Union.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In Spain we don't watch South American TVs. Basically since ASTRA
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> HISPASAT which are the two satellite systems found in southern
> Europe
>> >> > don't
>> >> >> send the signal of those channels. I think Galavision is on ASTRA
> but
>> > for
>> >> > us
>> >> >> the South Americans accent sound so funny that we can not really
>> >> >> follow
>> >> > what
>> >> >> they are saying. Is something like Portuguese and Brasilian both
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> suppouse to be the same language but the find the way to speak it
> very
>> >> >> strange each other.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Now related the Euro and Dollar. When I was in the States I found
> that
>> >> >> housing is more cheap there than in Europe but those wooden made
>> >> >> houses
>> >> > you
>> >> >> have in the cities are not found in Europe (not even in Spain where
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> weather is goog enough). So building a home in Europe is much more
>> >> > expensive
>> >> >> that in the States.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Another important diference are cars. An european car like BMW or
> Audi
>> > or
>> >> >> Mercedes cost double in Germany or Spain than in the States. The
>> >> >> reason
>> >> > for
>> >> >> that could be that european makers must fight with the prices of
> local
>> >> >> makers like Ford or GM. I think again that making a car in the
> States
>> > is
>> >> >> much cheaper that in Europe due to the social facilities the
>> >> >> workers
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> Europe have.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Just imagine, I pay on taxes by the end of the year or taken
> directly
>> >> >> from
>> >> >> my salary about 35%, so if the company pays to me around 48000
>> >> >> Euros
> a
>> >> > year
>> >> >> "Hacienda" (our IRS) gets for the state about 16800 Euros (57908
>> >> >> dollars -
>> >> >> 20267 dollars, what www.xe.com said). And Spain is not the worst
>> > country
>> >> > in
>> >> >> EU related to taxes. In France and Germany I could pay for the same
>> >> >> salary
>> >> >> about a 45% on taxes. And in northern Europe like Sweden, Norway or
>> >> > Finland
>> >> >> they pay as much as 65%.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Is this meant that the average european has less money in his
>> >> >> pocket
>> > that
>> >> >> the average american? Not really. All the european contries has
>> > National
>> >> >> Health System which has great health assistance. I have no other
>> >> >> health
>> >> >> system than the owned by the state. I could but I don't need it.
>> >> >> And
>> > all
>> >> >> european countries has a Social Security System which pays to you
>> >> >> about
>> >> >> 65%-90% of your salary when you are ill for a long time or when you
>> > raise
>> >> > 65
>> >> >> years old and you stop working for a salary (I don't remember the
>> > english
>> >> >> word... retirement?... don't know). So... if you take an american
>> > salary
>> >> > and
>> >> >> you add the health insurance and a retirement plan and many other
>> >> > facilities
>> >> >> that the average european pays with the taxes may be the diference
> is
>> > not
>> >> >> too much. May be with a person from Spain yes but not with a
>> >> >> German.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Which system is the best? I don't make any choice on that. I hate
>> > paying
>> >> >> taxes but when I saw how much an american pay for being in a
> hospital
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> think it over.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Related to Mr. Bean - Zapatero. I must insist... Guantanamo is the
>> >> > solution.
>> >> >> He is good friend of Chavez and Castro so... you have there the
> reason
>> > to
>> >> >> take it into jail. ;-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Fidelio
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el
>> >> >> mensaje
>> >> >> news:43440c73$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
>> >> >> > Yeah, my first day in Spain they told me, "Los dólares no tienen
>> >> >> > valor",
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > they took my credit card OK. Don't be put off by "Doug" or his
> ilk.
>> >> >> > There
>> >> >> > are people like him everywhere. We get lots of French, German,
> and
>> >> >> > English
>> >> >> > tourists where I live, <www.silvertoncolorado.com>, but not that
>> >> >> > many
>> >> >> > Spaniards. We wonder where they are. Some people think, that
> they
>> > may
>> >> > be
>> >> >> > stand-offish and unwilling to go places, where their language is
> not
>> >> >> > spoken.
>> >> >> > The Mexicans and Central Americans are not so picky. In fact, if
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > watched the advertisements on Telemundo, Univision, or hTV, you
>> >> >> > would
>> >> > form
>> >> >> > the opinion, that all they care about, is learning English. It
>> >> >> > is
>> > the
>> >> >> > ticket to "la vida mejor", as one ad says. On the other hand,
> lots
>> > of
>> >> >> > Anglos in my country are learning Spanish too.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I am not too worried about the Euro situation. I'll bet that I
> can
>> > buy
>> >> > a
>> >> >> > lot more with a dollar in the U.S., than you can buy with a Euro
> in
>> >> > Spain.
>> >> >> > The latinos that come into my country, legally or not, seem to
> like
>> >> >> > dollars
>> >> >> > too. I am not an expert on economics, but I suspect that the
>> >> >> > Euro
>> > may
>> >> > be
>> >> >> > over-valued.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The Mr. Bean comment cracks me up. Your previous president had a
>> >> >> > lot
>> >> > more
>> >> >> > dress sense and better taylors, although I didn't care too much
> for
>> > his
>> >> >> > politics.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Earle
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:di00o4$628$4@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> >> >> >> Hmmm Great news. I was thinking on visiting the States but my
>> > english
>> >> > is
>> >> >> >> soooo bad that I took the desicion of not going. But your note
>> >> >> >> helps
>> >> >> >> me
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> decide where in the States to go.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Funny thing is that nowadays if you know english and spanish you
>> >> >> >> can
>> >> >> > travel
>> >> >> >> all around the world. Some years ago you could travel only with
>> >> >> >> english
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> >> the times are changing. Is like the dollar. Few years ago every
>> > single
>> >> >> > time
>> >> >> >> I traveled outside Europe I carried US Dollars that are accepted
>> >> >> >> all
>> >> >> > around
>> >> >> >> the world. Now I travel only with UE Euros... That is something
> for
>> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> worry about... not the ------ of "hispanos" population.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Best Regards,
>> >> >> >> Fidelio
>> >> >> >> from Spain (UE)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> >> >> >> news:_Nw0f.1434$xD7.1251@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> >> >> >> > At least whole sections of Britain aren't
>> >> >> >> > speaking/reading/writing
>> >> >> > Spanish
>> >> >> >> > now. I've seen cities in Southern California where all the
>> >> >> >> > billboards
>> >> >> > are
>> >> >> >> > in Spanish. I've seen cities in Southern California where
>> > libraries
>> >> > no
>> >> >> >> > longer have the name libraries, they're now called
>> >> >> >> > bibliotecas.
>> >> > Imagine
>> >> >> >> > public libraries that don't have signs calling them libraries
>> >> > anymore.
>> >> >> >> > Insane. Do hispanics still get affirmative action in the USA?
> Too
>> >> >> >> > bad
>> >> > I
>> >> >> >> > don't get any affirmative action in any latino countries...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > there is no .sig
>> >> >> >> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > news:mZq0f.121355$G8.107975@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>> >> >> >> >> no, just legal aliens committing crimes and ending up in
>> >> > jail/prison.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> >> >> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> news:aeb8$43420337$d8449845$23577@FUSE.NET...
>> >> >> >> >>> Have you got a problem there with illegal aliens committing
>> > crimes
>> >> >> >> >>> and
>> >> >> >> >>> ending up in jail/prison?
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> >> >> >> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> >> >> >> >>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> >> >> >> >>> .
>> >> >> >> >>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >>> news:JTl0f.121295$G8.68978@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> >> >> >> >>> >
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4305798.stm
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> > Apparently, prison officers having an English flag on a
>> > tie-pin
>> >> >> > given
>> >> >> >> >>> > as
>> >> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> >>> > result of a donation to a cancer charity, is to be banned
> in
>> >> >> > Wakefield
>> >> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> >>> > "It could be misinterpreted as a racist symbol". The Chief
>> >> >> >> >>> > inspector
>> >> >> >> >>> > for
>> >> >> >> >>> > prisons, Anne Owens, said they were also "a cause for
>> > concern".
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> > Un-f*king*-believable.
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> >> >> >>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
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