OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
#141
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Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
Now imagine that refrigerator moved, right out in front of you in
the lane you had chosen, then again.
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-jc wrote:
>
> That sounds like a different situation. You were riding along and something
> happened and you lost control ... at that moment, you controlled the
> inevitable crash.
>
> What I'm referring to is this ... I'm riding along and come upon a
> refrigerator in the middle of the road and I choose to "lay her down"
> instead of braking and maneuvering to avoid the accident or slow the speed
> of impact. It is always better to stay in control as long as you can ...
> your bike is likely much more capable than you think it is ... if you are
> already crashing then you can try and control the crash but you shouldn't
> choose to crash.
>
> If that doesn't make sense, see sig. ;-)
>
> --
> - Jeff
> - ........................ then again, what do I know.
the lane you had chosen, then again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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-jc wrote:
>
> That sounds like a different situation. You were riding along and something
> happened and you lost control ... at that moment, you controlled the
> inevitable crash.
>
> What I'm referring to is this ... I'm riding along and come upon a
> refrigerator in the middle of the road and I choose to "lay her down"
> instead of braking and maneuvering to avoid the accident or slow the speed
> of impact. It is always better to stay in control as long as you can ...
> your bike is likely much more capable than you think it is ... if you are
> already crashing then you can try and control the crash but you shouldn't
> choose to crash.
>
> If that doesn't make sense, see sig. ;-)
>
> --
> - Jeff
> - ........................ then again, what do I know.
#142
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Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
Now imagine that refrigerator moved, right out in front of you in
the lane you had chosen, then again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
-jc wrote:
>
> That sounds like a different situation. You were riding along and something
> happened and you lost control ... at that moment, you controlled the
> inevitable crash.
>
> What I'm referring to is this ... I'm riding along and come upon a
> refrigerator in the middle of the road and I choose to "lay her down"
> instead of braking and maneuvering to avoid the accident or slow the speed
> of impact. It is always better to stay in control as long as you can ...
> your bike is likely much more capable than you think it is ... if you are
> already crashing then you can try and control the crash but you shouldn't
> choose to crash.
>
> If that doesn't make sense, see sig. ;-)
>
> --
> - Jeff
> - ........................ then again, what do I know.
the lane you had chosen, then again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
-jc wrote:
>
> That sounds like a different situation. You were riding along and something
> happened and you lost control ... at that moment, you controlled the
> inevitable crash.
>
> What I'm referring to is this ... I'm riding along and come upon a
> refrigerator in the middle of the road and I choose to "lay her down"
> instead of braking and maneuvering to avoid the accident or slow the speed
> of impact. It is always better to stay in control as long as you can ...
> your bike is likely much more capable than you think it is ... if you are
> already crashing then you can try and control the crash but you shouldn't
> choose to crash.
>
> If that doesn't make sense, see sig. ;-)
>
> --
> - Jeff
> - ........................ then again, what do I know.
#143
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Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
It was before the helmet law, too.
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-jc wrote:
>
> Maybe I only know low risk people. I have known plenty that have crashed
> but none that were seriously injured or died.
>
> --
> - Jeff
> - ........................ then again, what do I know.
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-jc wrote:
>
> Maybe I only know low risk people. I have known plenty that have crashed
> but none that were seriously injured or died.
>
> --
> - Jeff
> - ........................ then again, what do I know.
#144
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Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
It was before the helmet law, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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-jc wrote:
>
> Maybe I only know low risk people. I have known plenty that have crashed
> but none that were seriously injured or died.
>
> --
> - Jeff
> - ........................ then again, what do I know.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
-jc wrote:
>
> Maybe I only know low risk people. I have known plenty that have crashed
> but none that were seriously injured or died.
>
> --
> - Jeff
> - ........................ then again, what do I know.
#145
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Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
It was before the helmet law, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
-jc wrote:
>
> Maybe I only know low risk people. I have known plenty that have crashed
> but none that were seriously injured or died.
>
> --
> - Jeff
> - ........................ then again, what do I know.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
-jc wrote:
>
> Maybe I only know low risk people. I have known plenty that have crashed
> but none that were seriously injured or died.
>
> --
> - Jeff
> - ........................ then again, what do I know.
#146
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Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
-jc wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> > -jc wrote:
> > > "Mike Romain" wrote
> > > > The last time I rode, I had to lay the bike down twice coming up Yonge
> > > > St. in Toronto Canada!
> > >
> > > Not to second guess you Mike, but if you had time to lay it down and
> avoid
> > > the collision, it's highly likely that you had time to brake and
> maneuver
> > > and avoid the crash all together.
> >
> > You have never driven on wet greasy streets much eh?
>
> Plenty. Even ice and snow.
>
> > When the brakes are locked up and some fool is 10' in front of you, you
> > have two choices. Lay the bike down or eat metal.
>
> I don't know the particulars but maybe you shouldn't have been 10' behind
> this fool.
Now there is the issue in a sentence...
He came whipping out of a side road and I was 10' from face planting
into the side of the sucker.
>
> > The second one was close enough that I stopped myself from going under
> > him with my foot on his door.
>
> In that one, it's likely that you would have been able to bring your bike to
> a stop rubber side down with no contact. Maybe not ...
The bike is too small. It has 1.25" wide tires and weighs in around 75
lb. Flipping it sideways on purpose to have two 4" wide strips of
rubber and a foot rest digging in is/was a better bet than the 1" width
of rubber on the ground.
Mike
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> > -jc wrote:
> > > "Mike Romain" wrote
> > > > The last time I rode, I had to lay the bike down twice coming up Yonge
> > > > St. in Toronto Canada!
> > >
> > > Not to second guess you Mike, but if you had time to lay it down and
> avoid
> > > the collision, it's highly likely that you had time to brake and
> maneuver
> > > and avoid the crash all together.
> >
> > You have never driven on wet greasy streets much eh?
>
> Plenty. Even ice and snow.
>
> > When the brakes are locked up and some fool is 10' in front of you, you
> > have two choices. Lay the bike down or eat metal.
>
> I don't know the particulars but maybe you shouldn't have been 10' behind
> this fool.
Now there is the issue in a sentence...
He came whipping out of a side road and I was 10' from face planting
into the side of the sucker.
>
> > The second one was close enough that I stopped myself from going under
> > him with my foot on his door.
>
> In that one, it's likely that you would have been able to bring your bike to
> a stop rubber side down with no contact. Maybe not ...
The bike is too small. It has 1.25" wide tires and weighs in around 75
lb. Flipping it sideways on purpose to have two 4" wide strips of
rubber and a foot rest digging in is/was a better bet than the 1" width
of rubber on the ground.
Mike
#147
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Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
-jc wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> > -jc wrote:
> > > "Mike Romain" wrote
> > > > The last time I rode, I had to lay the bike down twice coming up Yonge
> > > > St. in Toronto Canada!
> > >
> > > Not to second guess you Mike, but if you had time to lay it down and
> avoid
> > > the collision, it's highly likely that you had time to brake and
> maneuver
> > > and avoid the crash all together.
> >
> > You have never driven on wet greasy streets much eh?
>
> Plenty. Even ice and snow.
>
> > When the brakes are locked up and some fool is 10' in front of you, you
> > have two choices. Lay the bike down or eat metal.
>
> I don't know the particulars but maybe you shouldn't have been 10' behind
> this fool.
Now there is the issue in a sentence...
He came whipping out of a side road and I was 10' from face planting
into the side of the sucker.
>
> > The second one was close enough that I stopped myself from going under
> > him with my foot on his door.
>
> In that one, it's likely that you would have been able to bring your bike to
> a stop rubber side down with no contact. Maybe not ...
The bike is too small. It has 1.25" wide tires and weighs in around 75
lb. Flipping it sideways on purpose to have two 4" wide strips of
rubber and a foot rest digging in is/was a better bet than the 1" width
of rubber on the ground.
Mike
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> > -jc wrote:
> > > "Mike Romain" wrote
> > > > The last time I rode, I had to lay the bike down twice coming up Yonge
> > > > St. in Toronto Canada!
> > >
> > > Not to second guess you Mike, but if you had time to lay it down and
> avoid
> > > the collision, it's highly likely that you had time to brake and
> maneuver
> > > and avoid the crash all together.
> >
> > You have never driven on wet greasy streets much eh?
>
> Plenty. Even ice and snow.
>
> > When the brakes are locked up and some fool is 10' in front of you, you
> > have two choices. Lay the bike down or eat metal.
>
> I don't know the particulars but maybe you shouldn't have been 10' behind
> this fool.
Now there is the issue in a sentence...
He came whipping out of a side road and I was 10' from face planting
into the side of the sucker.
>
> > The second one was close enough that I stopped myself from going under
> > him with my foot on his door.
>
> In that one, it's likely that you would have been able to bring your bike to
> a stop rubber side down with no contact. Maybe not ...
The bike is too small. It has 1.25" wide tires and weighs in around 75
lb. Flipping it sideways on purpose to have two 4" wide strips of
rubber and a foot rest digging in is/was a better bet than the 1" width
of rubber on the ground.
Mike
#148
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Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
-jc wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> > -jc wrote:
> > > "Mike Romain" wrote
> > > > The last time I rode, I had to lay the bike down twice coming up Yonge
> > > > St. in Toronto Canada!
> > >
> > > Not to second guess you Mike, but if you had time to lay it down and
> avoid
> > > the collision, it's highly likely that you had time to brake and
> maneuver
> > > and avoid the crash all together.
> >
> > You have never driven on wet greasy streets much eh?
>
> Plenty. Even ice and snow.
>
> > When the brakes are locked up and some fool is 10' in front of you, you
> > have two choices. Lay the bike down or eat metal.
>
> I don't know the particulars but maybe you shouldn't have been 10' behind
> this fool.
Now there is the issue in a sentence...
He came whipping out of a side road and I was 10' from face planting
into the side of the sucker.
>
> > The second one was close enough that I stopped myself from going under
> > him with my foot on his door.
>
> In that one, it's likely that you would have been able to bring your bike to
> a stop rubber side down with no contact. Maybe not ...
The bike is too small. It has 1.25" wide tires and weighs in around 75
lb. Flipping it sideways on purpose to have two 4" wide strips of
rubber and a foot rest digging in is/was a better bet than the 1" width
of rubber on the ground.
Mike
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> > -jc wrote:
> > > "Mike Romain" wrote
> > > > The last time I rode, I had to lay the bike down twice coming up Yonge
> > > > St. in Toronto Canada!
> > >
> > > Not to second guess you Mike, but if you had time to lay it down and
> avoid
> > > the collision, it's highly likely that you had time to brake and
> maneuver
> > > and avoid the crash all together.
> >
> > You have never driven on wet greasy streets much eh?
>
> Plenty. Even ice and snow.
>
> > When the brakes are locked up and some fool is 10' in front of you, you
> > have two choices. Lay the bike down or eat metal.
>
> I don't know the particulars but maybe you shouldn't have been 10' behind
> this fool.
Now there is the issue in a sentence...
He came whipping out of a side road and I was 10' from face planting
into the side of the sucker.
>
> > The second one was close enough that I stopped myself from going under
> > him with my foot on his door.
>
> In that one, it's likely that you would have been able to bring your bike to
> a stop rubber side down with no contact. Maybe not ...
The bike is too small. It has 1.25" wide tires and weighs in around 75
lb. Flipping it sideways on purpose to have two 4" wide strips of
rubber and a foot rest digging in is/was a better bet than the 1" width
of rubber on the ground.
Mike
#149
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Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
It was OK when I bought my two Yamahas, one in '78 and the other in '80.
You are absolutely right in where one should ride when the traffic is moving
(except that one should ride on the tire tracks not the grease strip), but
when the traffic stops is when bikes tend to split the lanes. It is insanity
to split lanes when traffic is already doing 70+, indeed it is insane to
drive between cars that are moving more than about 2. I am more than happy
to keep my place in line at any speed over 10 mph.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> It was illegal back in the sixties, and seventies when I was
> riding, back in the days when we were supposed to ride only in the
> center of the lane with the grease so as to be visible from a car's rear
> view mirrors.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > No, it is not and never has been that I can recall. It used to annoy me
as
> > well, until I discovered that the bikes were not actually violating the
> > rules. Now, when I am in standing traffic and in the #1 lane, I stay to
the
> > left, and when in the #2 lane, I stay right. The bikes seem to favor the
> > space between the 1 & 2 lanes as the place to split.
You are absolutely right in where one should ride when the traffic is moving
(except that one should ride on the tire tracks not the grease strip), but
when the traffic stops is when bikes tend to split the lanes. It is insanity
to split lanes when traffic is already doing 70+, indeed it is insane to
drive between cars that are moving more than about 2. I am more than happy
to keep my place in line at any speed over 10 mph.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4048DEF9.C2F55CDD@***.net...
> It was illegal back in the sixties, and seventies when I was
> riding, back in the days when we were supposed to ride only in the
> center of the lane with the grease so as to be visible from a car's rear
> view mirrors.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > No, it is not and never has been that I can recall. It used to annoy me
as
> > well, until I discovered that the bikes were not actually violating the
> > rules. Now, when I am in standing traffic and in the #1 lane, I stay to
the
> > left, and when in the #2 lane, I stay right. The bikes seem to favor the
> > space between the 1 & 2 lanes as the place to split.
#150
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Re: OT - Motorcycle fuel mileage
It was OK when I bought my two Yamahas, one in '78 and the other in '80.
You are absolutely right in where one should ride when the traffic is moving
(except that one should ride on the tire tracks not the grease strip), but
when the traffic stops is when bikes tend to split the lanes. It is insanity
to split lanes when traffic is already doing 70+, indeed it is insane to
drive between cars that are moving more than about 2. I am more than happy
to keep my place in line at any speed over 10 mph.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4048DEF9.C2F55CDD@***.net...
> It was illegal back in the sixties, and seventies when I was
> riding, back in the days when we were supposed to ride only in the
> center of the lane with the grease so as to be visible from a car's rear
> view mirrors.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > No, it is not and never has been that I can recall. It used to annoy me
as
> > well, until I discovered that the bikes were not actually violating the
> > rules. Now, when I am in standing traffic and in the #1 lane, I stay to
the
> > left, and when in the #2 lane, I stay right. The bikes seem to favor the
> > space between the 1 & 2 lanes as the place to split.
You are absolutely right in where one should ride when the traffic is moving
(except that one should ride on the tire tracks not the grease strip), but
when the traffic stops is when bikes tend to split the lanes. It is insanity
to split lanes when traffic is already doing 70+, indeed it is insane to
drive between cars that are moving more than about 2. I am more than happy
to keep my place in line at any speed over 10 mph.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4048DEF9.C2F55CDD@***.net...
> It was illegal back in the sixties, and seventies when I was
> riding, back in the days when we were supposed to ride only in the
> center of the lane with the grease so as to be visible from a car's rear
> view mirrors.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > No, it is not and never has been that I can recall. It used to annoy me
as
> > well, until I discovered that the bikes were not actually violating the
> > rules. Now, when I am in standing traffic and in the #1 lane, I stay to
the
> > left, and when in the #2 lane, I stay right. The bikes seem to favor the
> > space between the 1 & 2 lanes as the place to split.