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my trip to montana (less than a week away now) will take me from north
carolina through virginia, west virginia, kentucky, indiana, illinois, wisconsin, minnesota, north dakota, and then montana. im wondering if there are any regulations that i need to be aware of concerning transporting handguns and assault rifles through these states. thanks! -- Nathan W. Collier '03 Jeep Rubicon Jeep and let Jeep http://7SlotGrille.com |
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Don't get caught?
I don't know, but the opportunity to be a smart ass was just too strong. I think I would put them all in the back of your truck with the sofa and chairs. Carry your ownership papers with you in the cab. Good luck, and don't get caught. "Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message news:716Ma.202661$jp.5465982@twister.southeast.rr. com... > my trip to montana (less than a week away now) will take me from north > carolina through virginia, west virginia, kentucky, indiana, illinois, > wisconsin, minnesota, north dakota, and then montana. im wondering if there > are any regulations that i need to be aware of concerning transporting > handguns and assault rifles through these states. > thanks! > > -- > Nathan W. Collier > '03 Jeep Rubicon > Jeep and let Jeep > > http://7SlotGrille.com > > > > |
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Watch out for BMWs..
"Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message news:716Ma.202661$jp.5465982@twister.southeast.rr. com... > my trip to montana (less than a week away now) will take me from north > carolina through virginia, west virginia, kentucky, indiana, illinois, > wisconsin, minnesota, north dakota, and then montana. im wondering if there > are any regulations that i need to be aware of concerning transporting > handguns and assault rifles through these states. > thanks! > > -- > Nathan W. Collier > '03 Jeep Rubicon > Jeep and let Jeep > > http://7SlotGrille.com > > > > |
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I think you will be safe if you keep the weapons in a locked case & the ammo
in a separate part of the vehicle (weapons in a locked case - locked in the trunk & ammo in a locked case in the back seat. I will check with the guy that qualified me for my CCW & get an opinion of state by state -- Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh carlo.jr@comcast.net '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II O|||||||O '92 Explorer '65 Mustang "Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message news:716Ma.202661$jp.5465982@twister.southeast.rr. com... > my trip to montana (less than a week away now) will take me from north > carolina through virginia, west virginia, kentucky, indiana, illinois, > wisconsin, minnesota, north dakota, and then montana. im wondering if there > are any regulations that i need to be aware of concerning transporting > handguns and assault rifles through these states. > thanks! > > -- > Nathan W. Collier > '03 Jeep Rubicon > Jeep and let Jeep > > http://7SlotGrille.com > > > > |
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Nathan,
In WI, we have no conceal carry laws as of yet. Transportation of guns means they must be FULLY cased. I have an Encore in an Uncle Mikes holster that leaves the but end visible. That is illegal, so I transport it in a hard sided.briefcase style. All must be unloaded and not readily accessible. For more info, try the WI Legislature chapter 167.31 linked below. http://tinyurl.com/fp59 Brian "Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message news:716Ma.202661$jp.5465982@twister.southeast.rr. com... > my trip to montana (less than a week away now) will take me from north > carolina through virginia, west virginia, kentucky, indiana, illinois, > wisconsin, minnesota, north dakota, and then montana. im wondering if there > are any regulations that i need to be aware of concerning transporting > handguns and assault rifles through these states. > thanks! > > -- > Nathan W. Collier > '03 Jeep Rubicon > Jeep and let Jeep > > http://7SlotGrille.com > > > > |
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Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> cool, thanks doug! not a problem. Have a safe trip |
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It all boils down to not getting caught...
On the other hand, if you really are worried about getting caught, pack them away in something that is locked and not visible... The cops do not have the right to search your car unless they are arresting you for something... In actuality, they can't just do a search then, but they call it "inventorying" your car... It's basically an illegal search, but it won't do you any good to fight it... The gun laws are considerably different as you go across the country... Personally, I believe that one should learn the laws so that they know exactly which ones that they are breaking... When I go across country, I carry since I have a Texas CHL... I don't care if the state that I'm in recognizes the TX CHL or not... I tend not to have states that don't recognize it as the destination for my trip, but some of the ones that I go through might not recognize it... Then again, I'm only out of my car long enough to get gas in these states... |
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Nathan:
Go to http://www.packing.org/ for laws and regulations state by state. Tom "Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message news:716Ma.202661$jp.5465982@twister.southeast.rr. com... > my trip to montana (less than a week away now) will take me from north > carolina through virginia, west virginia, kentucky, indiana, illinois, > wisconsin, minnesota, north dakota, and then montana. im wondering if there > are any regulations that i need to be aware of concerning transporting > handguns and assault rifles through these states. > thanks! > > -- > Nathan W. Collier > '03 Jeep Rubicon > Jeep and let Jeep > > http://7SlotGrille.com > > > > |
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"Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message news:Lj6Ma.202834$jp.5471861@twister.southeast.rr. com... > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:vg1rt2j2cp0cce@corp.supernews.com... > > Good luck, and > > don't get caught. > > if i were going through new york, dc, jersey i could understand your > sentiment but......well......are you serious? > > Serious? Yeah, kinda. I think I would do as you are doing, packing my stuff and moving from one state to another. It so happens that part of "my stuff" includes an arsenal that small countries would be proud of. As long as you are not engaged in a crime spree with your wife and kids in tow, I don't think you have any real worries. When you get to your new home, it would be wise to bone up on the local laws as they might apply to your arsenal, but I really don't see any problems for you. Since I would do as you are doing, good luck. Remember your 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Keep your stuff in the back with the sofa and chairs, and you should be fine. Don't do anything that would make anybody want to ask questions. > -- > Nathan W. Collier > '03 Jeep Rubicon > Jeep and let Jeep > > http://7SlotGrille.com > > > > |
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Even if I were driving through New York I would still have my
loaded firearm next to me, especially New York. It is better to be judged by twelve of my peers, than carried by six. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Nathan W. Collier" wrote: > > if i were going through new york, dc, jersey i could understand your > sentiment but......well......are you serious? > > -- > Nathan W. Collier > '03 Jeep Rubicon > Jeep and let Jeep > > http://7SlotGrille.com |
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Wisconsin is pretty strict about weapons in cars, and so are most of the states
east of the Mississippi. Get caught here with anything loaded anywhere in your vehicle & go straight to jail. They'll keep the gun, too. Have a gun within reach (even under lock & key) and you got some fancy talking to do to the already armed officers. Keep your weapons locked in the back of the truck where you can't get at them. Keep your ammo locked up as well. Also, don't speed in Wisconsin. If you're from out-of-state and you get pulled over, you must pay all fines right there on the side of the road, or you go to jail right then & there. You'll see signs at our borders that say (big sign:) "Wisconsin arrests drunk drivers" with a smaller sign under it that says "And Speeders". They'll give you 10 mph in good weather, anything over that & they have free reign to do whatever they like (within reason). Also, we have unmarked squads here and our courts say it's OK for them to sit in the dark in an unmarked car behind bushes running radar & bust you. When you get pulled over, they have the right to search your car for any reasonable cause (like you're acting or look suspicious). Seat belt rules are also strictly enforced, probably even more so for out of state vehicles. Minnesota is very similar to Wisconsin in most of these things. Have a good trip! - Jeff G "Nathan W. Collier" wrote: > my trip to montana (less than a week away now) will take me from north > carolina through virginia, west virginia, kentucky, indiana, illinois, > wisconsin, minnesota, north dakota, and then montana. im wondering if there > are any regulations that i need to be aware of concerning transporting > handguns and assault rifles through these states. > thanks! > > -- > Nathan W. Collier > '03 Jeep Rubicon > Jeep and let Jeep > > http://7SlotGrille.com |
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thanks jeff!
-- Nathan W. Collier '03 Jeep Rubicon Jeep and let Jeep http://7SlotGrille.com "Jeff Gross" <jeffgross@charter.net> wrote in message news:3F01E49B.8F6E2488@charter.net... > Wisconsin is pretty strict about weapons in cars, and so are most of the states > east of the Mississippi. > Get caught here with anything loaded anywhere in your vehicle & go straight to > jail. They'll keep the gun, too. > Have a gun within reach (even under lock & key) and you got some fancy talking > to do to the already armed officers. > Keep your weapons locked in the back of the truck where you can't get at them. > Keep your ammo locked up as well. > > Also, don't speed in Wisconsin. If you're from out-of-state and you get pulled > over, you must pay all fines right there on the side of the road, or you go to > jail right then & there. You'll see signs at our borders that say (big sign:) > "Wisconsin arrests drunk drivers" with a smaller sign under it that says "And > Speeders". They'll give you 10 mph in good weather, anything over that & they > have free reign to do whatever they like (within reason). Also, we have unmarked > squads here and our courts say it's OK for them to sit in the dark in an > unmarked car behind bushes running radar & bust you. When you get pulled over, > they have the right to search your car for any reasonable cause (like you're > acting or look suspicious). Seat belt rules are also strictly enforced, > probably even more so for out of state vehicles. Minnesota is very similar to > Wisconsin in most of these things. > > Have a good trip! > - Jeff G > > > "Nathan W. Collier" wrote: > > > my trip to montana (less than a week away now) will take me from north > > carolina through virginia, west virginia, kentucky, indiana, illinois, > > wisconsin, minnesota, north dakota, and then montana. im wondering if there > > are any regulations that i need to be aware of concerning transporting > > handguns and assault rifles through these states. > > thanks! > > > > -- > > Nathan W. Collier > > '03 Jeep Rubicon > > Jeep and let Jeep > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com > |
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Piss them off so they chase you into Montana, where the daily bag
limit on Bimmers is 2 per day, with a bonus of 1 extra if it has a California plate. Billy Tolcher wrote: > Watch out for BMWs.. > > > "Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message > news:716Ma.202661$jp.5465982@twister.southeast.rr. com... > >>my trip to montana (less than a week away now) will take me from north >>carolina through virginia, west virginia, kentucky, indiana, illinois, >>wisconsin, minnesota, north dakota, and then montana. im wondering if > > there > >>are any regulations that i need to be aware of concerning transporting >>handguns and assault rifles through these states. >>thanks! >> >>-- >>Nathan W. Collier >>'03 Jeep Rubicon >>Jeep and let Jeep >> >>http://7SlotGrille.com >> >> >> >> > > > |
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You could always go to your local Cop Shop and explain that you are "moving
out of this God forsaken hellhole" and ask them for advise. No, maybe that won't work. "Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message news:716Ma.202661$jp.5465982@twister.southeast.rr. com... > my trip to montana (less than a week away now) will take me from north > carolina through virginia, west virginia, kentucky, indiana, illinois, > wisconsin, minnesota, north dakota, and then montana. im wondering if there > are any regulations that i need to be aware of concerning transporting > handguns and assault rifles through these states. > thanks! > > -- > Nathan W. Collier > '03 Jeep Rubicon > Jeep and let Jeep > > http://7SlotGrille.com > > > > |
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You would only feel bad if they immediately start shouting and
whooping and giggling, and passing a huge bucket for cash donations to make sure you don't change your mind. Jeff Strickland wrote: > You could always go to your local Cop Shop and explain that you are "moving > out of this God forsaken hellhole" and ask them for advise. No, maybe that > won't work. > > > > > "Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message > news:716Ma.202661$jp.5465982@twister.southeast.rr. com... > >>my trip to montana (less than a week away now) will take me from north >>carolina through virginia, west virginia, kentucky, indiana, illinois, >>wisconsin, minnesota, north dakota, and then montana. im wondering if > > there > >>are any regulations that i need to be aware of concerning transporting >>handguns and assault rifles through these states. >>thanks! >> >>-- >>Nathan W. Collier >>'03 Jeep Rubicon >>Jeep and let Jeep >> >>http://7SlotGrille.com >> >> >> >> > > > |
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"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:3F0210CD.6090405@comcast.net... > You would only feel bad if they immediately start shouting and > whooping and giggling, and passing a huge bucket for cash donations > to make sure you don't change your mind. > .... or for a Going Away party three days after you leave. |
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Left ear with ear ring. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Jeff Strickland wrote: > > How do they prove they bagged a Bimmer? Do they have to bring in a trunklid, > or what? |
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that does no good when you are face down on the pavement, with some
over-zealous super-cop deciding just what to charge you with. you may (or may not) win in court... by then it's too late. "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:Zz6Ma.351484$3n5.265707@news2.central.cox.net ... > Nathan W. Collier wrote: > > my trip to montana (less than a week away now) will take me from north > > carolina through virginia, west virginia, kentucky, indiana, illinois, > > wisconsin, minnesota, north dakota, and then montana. im wondering if there > > are any regulations that i need to be aware of concerning transporting > > handguns and assault rifles through these states. > > thanks! > > Keep them locked up out of reach of the driver and the ammo seperate. > > You are on an Interstate journey ala 18 USC 926A > If it's legal where you are going, your golden. > > http://www.gunlaw.com/interstate.phtml > > 18 USC 926A > Interstate Transportation of Firearms > Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or > regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any > person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from > transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled > to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where > he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place > where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during > such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the > firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible > or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such > transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle > without a compartment separate from the driver's co mpartment > the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container > other than the glove compartment or console. > > |
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I think you will be safe if you keep the weapons in a locked case & the ammo
in a separate part of the vehicle (weapons in a locked case - locked in the trunk & ammo in a locked case in the back seat. I will check with the guy that qualified me for my CCW & get an opinion of state by state -- Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh carlo.jr@comcast.net '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II O|||||||O '92 Explorer '65 Mustang "Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message news:716Ma.202661$jp.5465982@twister.southeast.rr. com... > my trip to montana (less than a week away now) will take me from north > carolina through virginia, west virginia, kentucky, indiana, illinois, > wisconsin, minnesota, north dakota, and then montana. im wondering if there > are any regulations that i need to be aware of concerning transporting > handguns and assault rifles through these states. > thanks! > > -- > Nathan W. Collier > '03 Jeep Rubicon > Jeep and let Jeep > > http://7SlotGrille.com > > > > |
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Here in Minnesota, if you don't have a permit, it needs to be in a LOCKED
case, or places in the most distant portion of the vehicle, not in the pass area. all magazines must be unloaded, and stored separate from ammunition. (DNR calls a loaded mag, and a firearm, though separated, to be a loaded firearm.) Minnesota... the land where NOTHING is legal. Avoid Mpls/St.Paul... I have heard a few horror stories about the local constabulary, Besides, traffic is so buggered up even the locals must spend hours lost amidst it! rifle MUST be cased in the vehicle. When I moved here I was used to the desert SW laws... I had my Ar-10T in a visible rack... and got to talk to LOTS of state troopers... and I mean LOTS... as in auto-full load of detectives. Eventually, I managed to convince them I was more-or-less harmless... being a nationalised citizen didn't help the whole bloody mess in the least. 4 hours later I got my armalite back, without a case I had to disassm, and take home. Jeff Gross is not kidding about Wisc... the mog actually got me a speeding ticket in Superior. (while towing the Cj... no less) they take plastic on the spot, no cash.... What else would you expect of a bunch o' cheese-heads? When you get to Montana, shoot a prairie dog for me :) "Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message news:716Ma.202661$jp.5465982@twister.southeast.rr. com... > my trip to montana (less than a week away now) will take me from north > carolina through virginia, west virginia, kentucky, indiana, illinois, > wisconsin, minnesota, north dakota, and then montana. im wondering if there > are any regulations that i need to be aware of concerning transporting > handguns and assault rifles through these states. > thanks! > > -- > Nathan W. Collier > '03 Jeep Rubicon > Jeep and let Jeep > > http://7SlotGrille.com > > > > |
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Put the guns in the back with the sofa and chairs, and drive happy.
"Username" <chesshire_cat@nospam.net> wrote in message news:IIpMa.14537$vx3.3911309@kent.svc.tds.net... > that does no good when you are face down on the pavement, with some > over-zealous super-cop deciding just what to charge you with. you may (or > may not) win in court... by then it's too late. > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > news:Zz6Ma.351484$3n5.265707@news2.central.cox.net ... > > Nathan W. Collier wrote: > > > my trip to montana (less than a week away now) will take me from north > > > carolina through virginia, west virginia, kentucky, indiana, illinois, > > > wisconsin, minnesota, north dakota, and then montana. im wondering if > there > > > are any regulations that i need to be aware of concerning transporting > > > handguns and assault rifles through these states. > > > thanks! > > > > Keep them locked up out of reach of the driver and the ammo seperate. > > > > You are on an Interstate journey ala 18 USC 926A > > If it's legal where you are going, your golden. > > > > http://www.gunlaw.com/interstate.phtml > > > > 18 USC 926A > > Interstate Transportation of Firearms > > Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or > > regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any > > person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from > > transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled > > to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where > > he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place > > where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during > > such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the > > firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible > > or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such > > transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle > > without a compartment separate from the driver's co mpartment > > the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container > > other than the glove compartment or console. > > > > > > |
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He will be away from all that crap once he crosses the North Dakota line.
:-) Shouldn't have a worry in WV or KY either. Nathan - Just travel low-key and don't advertise you're traveling with firearms (or any valuable for that matter). Avoid the big metropolitan areas if possible, or at least don't stay the night around one if you are doing a self-move with a truck. It's not the law you have to be most concerned about while traveling, it's the thieves. Welcome to Montana (if advance). Take your time and have a safe trip -- all 2200+ miles of it! Terry Helena, MT "Username" <chesshire_cat@nospam.net> wrote in message news:TUpMa.14538$vx3.3912428@kent.svc.tds.net... > Here in Minnesota, if you don't have a permit, it needs to be in a LOCKED > case, or places in the most distant portion of the vehicle, not in the pass > area. all magazines must be unloaded, and stored separate from ammunition. > (DNR calls a loaded mag, and a firearm, though separated, to be a loaded > firearm.) > > Minnesota... the land where NOTHING is legal. > > Avoid Mpls/St.Paul... I have heard a few horror stories about the local > constabulary, Besides, traffic is so buggered up even the locals must spend > hours lost amidst it! > > rifle MUST be cased in the vehicle. When I moved here I was used to the > desert SW laws... I had my Ar-10T in a visible rack... and got to talk to > LOTS of state troopers... and I mean LOTS... as in auto-full load of > detectives. Eventually, I managed to convince them I was more-or-less > harmless... being a nationalised citizen didn't help the whole bloody mess > in the least. 4 hours later I got my armalite back, without a case I had to > disassm, and take home. > > Jeff Gross is not kidding about Wisc... the mog actually got me a speeding > ticket in Superior. (while towing the Cj... no less) they take plastic on > the spot, no cash.... What else would you expect of a bunch o' cheese-heads? > > When you get to Montana, shoot a prairie dog for me :) > > > > "Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message > news:716Ma.202661$jp.5465982@twister.southeast.rr. com... > > my trip to montana (less than a week away now) will take me from north > > carolina through virginia, west virginia, kentucky, indiana, illinois, > > wisconsin, minnesota, north dakota, and then montana. im wondering if > there > > are any regulations that i need to be aware of concerning transporting > > handguns and assault rifles through these states. > > thanks! > > > > -- > > Nathan W. Collier > > '03 Jeep Rubicon > > Jeep and let Jeep > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com > > > > > > > > > > |
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"Terry Jeffrey" wrote ...
> It's not the law you have to be most > concerned about while traveling, it's > the thieves. And the difference is ???? |
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"Grumman581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:odvMa.38114$XV.2240526@twister.austin.rr.com. .. > And the difference is ???? lol.....thats good! -- Nathan W. Collier '03 Jeep Rubicon Jeep and let Jeep http://7SlotGrille.com |
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I can speak on Virginia alone.
If you have a concealed carry permit the weapon can be anywhere you want. If you don't have one then the weapons are supposed to be in plain view and out of reach of the occupants. The ammo is not to be accesible either. Really its kind of impossible to abide by thise rules. I carry all my ammo in a locked box, military ammo box with combo lock on it(all magazines and bolts in with the ammo). And just do my best keep it out of reach.I would call each the ATF and ask how to get the regulations on each state and make sure that you can legally have a certain weapon in that state. If you can't then you can probably route around the state or ship the weapons ahead. Call the NRA or go on there website, i bet they can give you all the info you need. IMPORTANT!!!: if you are pulled over, roll down your window, stick both hands out and tell the officer you are in the process of moving and have weapons in the vehicle. That is the standard practice taught to me by a cop. Good luck Nathan W. Collier wrote: > my trip to montana (less than a week away now) will take me from north > carolina through virginia, west virginia, kentucky, indiana, illinois, > wisconsin, minnesota, north dakota, and then montana. im wondering if there > are any regulations that i need to be aware of concerning transporting > handguns and assault rifles through these states. > thanks! > > |
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does a gold capped tooth work?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F0214D7.9FD15C41@cox.net... > Left ear with ear ring. ;-) > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Jeff Strickland wrote: > > > > How do they prove they bagged a Bimmer? Do they have to bring in a trunklid, > > or what? |
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isn't that the pimps?
Guess I was confused... thanks for the correction bill. "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F03AD98.2E05980B@cox.net... I think of Rappers as Americans, therefore drive Cadillacs. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Username wrote: > > does a gold capped tooth work? |
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