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Re: OT - I just got this in my email and thought I would share
That's all fine and dandy, but this is a world wide Jeep newsgroup and
lots of us have no clue about nor could we care about US politics.
Maybe take it to a political newsgroup.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Sleestak wrote:
>
> >> Now, if you don't vote, and therefore do not involve yourself in the
> >> political process, then I would agree that you don't have the right to
> >> complain.
>
> Anyone who pays taxes and lives by the laws of this country has an absolute
> right to complain about the government; period!
lots of us have no clue about nor could we care about US politics.
Maybe take it to a political newsgroup.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Sleestak wrote:
>
> >> Now, if you don't vote, and therefore do not involve yourself in the
> >> political process, then I would agree that you don't have the right to
> >> complain.
>
> Anyone who pays taxes and lives by the laws of this country has an absolute
> right to complain about the government; period!
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Re: OT - I just got this in my email and thought I would share
Hi Matt,
Damn right! There are many countries that use the draft, countries
that have never been at war, like Switzerland for one, where every male
must put in there time. Sure the draft is unfair, like G.W. just got to
fly his jet around here, while my best friend died in Vietnam:
http://www.----------.com/mitchell.jpg Anyway. I see an attitude change
when people have served their country, they're loyal and love our
country. I look around how and I see nothing but girlie men! I wish we
would reinstate the draft and all these cowards would move to your
country, again.
And yes, if you don't vote, don't bitch.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Surely you and Bill aren't implying that ONLY those that has served in the
> military has the right to complain about the politics and leadership of the
> USA. While the choice to serve militarily is an honorable one, it is just
> that, a CHOICE. The alternative based on your implication is a military
> dictatorship.
>
> Now, if you don't vote, and therefore do not involve yourself in the
> political process, then I would agree that you don't have the right to
> complain.
Damn right! There are many countries that use the draft, countries
that have never been at war, like Switzerland for one, where every male
must put in there time. Sure the draft is unfair, like G.W. just got to
fly his jet around here, while my best friend died in Vietnam:
http://www.----------.com/mitchell.jpg Anyway. I see an attitude change
when people have served their country, they're loyal and love our
country. I look around how and I see nothing but girlie men! I wish we
would reinstate the draft and all these cowards would move to your
country, again.
And yes, if you don't vote, don't bitch.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Surely you and Bill aren't implying that ONLY those that has served in the
> military has the right to complain about the politics and leadership of the
> USA. While the choice to serve militarily is an honorable one, it is just
> that, a CHOICE. The alternative based on your implication is a military
> dictatorship.
>
> Now, if you don't vote, and therefore do not involve yourself in the
> political process, then I would agree that you don't have the right to
> complain.
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Re: OT - I just got this in my email and thought I would share
Hi Matt,
Damn right! There are many countries that use the draft, countries
that have never been at war, like Switzerland for one, where every male
must put in there time. Sure the draft is unfair, like G.W. just got to
fly his jet around here, while my best friend died in Vietnam:
http://www.----------.com/mitchell.jpg Anyway. I see an attitude change
when people have served their country, they're loyal and love our
country. I look around how and I see nothing but girlie men! I wish we
would reinstate the draft and all these cowards would move to your
country, again.
And yes, if you don't vote, don't bitch.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Surely you and Bill aren't implying that ONLY those that has served in the
> military has the right to complain about the politics and leadership of the
> USA. While the choice to serve militarily is an honorable one, it is just
> that, a CHOICE. The alternative based on your implication is a military
> dictatorship.
>
> Now, if you don't vote, and therefore do not involve yourself in the
> political process, then I would agree that you don't have the right to
> complain.
Damn right! There are many countries that use the draft, countries
that have never been at war, like Switzerland for one, where every male
must put in there time. Sure the draft is unfair, like G.W. just got to
fly his jet around here, while my best friend died in Vietnam:
http://www.----------.com/mitchell.jpg Anyway. I see an attitude change
when people have served their country, they're loyal and love our
country. I look around how and I see nothing but girlie men! I wish we
would reinstate the draft and all these cowards would move to your
country, again.
And yes, if you don't vote, don't bitch.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Surely you and Bill aren't implying that ONLY those that has served in the
> military has the right to complain about the politics and leadership of the
> USA. While the choice to serve militarily is an honorable one, it is just
> that, a CHOICE. The alternative based on your implication is a military
> dictatorship.
>
> Now, if you don't vote, and therefore do not involve yourself in the
> political process, then I would agree that you don't have the right to
> complain.
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Re: OT - I just got this in my email and thought I would share
Hi Matt,
Damn right! There are many countries that use the draft, countries
that have never been at war, like Switzerland for one, where every male
must put in there time. Sure the draft is unfair, like G.W. just got to
fly his jet around here, while my best friend died in Vietnam:
http://www.----------.com/mitchell.jpg Anyway. I see an attitude change
when people have served their country, they're loyal and love our
country. I look around how and I see nothing but girlie men! I wish we
would reinstate the draft and all these cowards would move to your
country, again.
And yes, if you don't vote, don't bitch.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Surely you and Bill aren't implying that ONLY those that has served in the
> military has the right to complain about the politics and leadership of the
> USA. While the choice to serve militarily is an honorable one, it is just
> that, a CHOICE. The alternative based on your implication is a military
> dictatorship.
>
> Now, if you don't vote, and therefore do not involve yourself in the
> political process, then I would agree that you don't have the right to
> complain.
Damn right! There are many countries that use the draft, countries
that have never been at war, like Switzerland for one, where every male
must put in there time. Sure the draft is unfair, like G.W. just got to
fly his jet around here, while my best friend died in Vietnam:
http://www.----------.com/mitchell.jpg Anyway. I see an attitude change
when people have served their country, they're loyal and love our
country. I look around how and I see nothing but girlie men! I wish we
would reinstate the draft and all these cowards would move to your
country, again.
And yes, if you don't vote, don't bitch.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Surely you and Bill aren't implying that ONLY those that has served in the
> military has the right to complain about the politics and leadership of the
> USA. While the choice to serve militarily is an honorable one, it is just
> that, a CHOICE. The alternative based on your implication is a military
> dictatorship.
>
> Now, if you don't vote, and therefore do not involve yourself in the
> political process, then I would agree that you don't have the right to
> complain.
Guest
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Re: OT - I just got this in my email and thought I would share
Hi Matt,
Damn right! There are many countries that use the draft, countries
that have never been at war, like Switzerland for one, where every male
must put in there time. Sure the draft is unfair, like G.W. just got to
fly his jet around here, while my best friend died in Vietnam:
http://www.----------.com/mitchell.jpg Anyway. I see an attitude change
when people have served their country, they're loyal and love our
country. I look around how and I see nothing but girlie men! I wish we
would reinstate the draft and all these cowards would move to your
country, again.
And yes, if you don't vote, don't bitch.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Surely you and Bill aren't implying that ONLY those that has served in the
> military has the right to complain about the politics and leadership of the
> USA. While the choice to serve militarily is an honorable one, it is just
> that, a CHOICE. The alternative based on your implication is a military
> dictatorship.
>
> Now, if you don't vote, and therefore do not involve yourself in the
> political process, then I would agree that you don't have the right to
> complain.
Damn right! There are many countries that use the draft, countries
that have never been at war, like Switzerland for one, where every male
must put in there time. Sure the draft is unfair, like G.W. just got to
fly his jet around here, while my best friend died in Vietnam:
http://www.----------.com/mitchell.jpg Anyway. I see an attitude change
when people have served their country, they're loyal and love our
country. I look around how and I see nothing but girlie men! I wish we
would reinstate the draft and all these cowards would move to your
country, again.
And yes, if you don't vote, don't bitch.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Surely you and Bill aren't implying that ONLY those that has served in the
> military has the right to complain about the politics and leadership of the
> USA. While the choice to serve militarily is an honorable one, it is just
> that, a CHOICE. The alternative based on your implication is a military
> dictatorship.
>
> Now, if you don't vote, and therefore do not involve yourself in the
> political process, then I would agree that you don't have the right to
> complain.
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Re: OT - I just got this in my email and thought I would share
Mike Romain wrote:
> That's all fine and dandy, but this is a world wide Jeep newsgroup and
> lots of us have no clue about nor could we care about US politics.
>
> Maybe take it to a political newsgroup.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I agree Mike. I've been watching this thread for a couple of days and only
now got boared enough to respond to it. btw, I didn't start this thread.
> That's all fine and dandy, but this is a world wide Jeep newsgroup and
> lots of us have no clue about nor could we care about US politics.
>
> Maybe take it to a political newsgroup.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I agree Mike. I've been watching this thread for a couple of days and only
now got boared enough to respond to it. btw, I didn't start this thread.
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Re: OT - I just got this in my email and thought I would share
Mike Romain wrote:
> That's all fine and dandy, but this is a world wide Jeep newsgroup and
> lots of us have no clue about nor could we care about US politics.
>
> Maybe take it to a political newsgroup.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I agree Mike. I've been watching this thread for a couple of days and only
now got boared enough to respond to it. btw, I didn't start this thread.
> That's all fine and dandy, but this is a world wide Jeep newsgroup and
> lots of us have no clue about nor could we care about US politics.
>
> Maybe take it to a political newsgroup.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I agree Mike. I've been watching this thread for a couple of days and only
now got boared enough to respond to it. btw, I didn't start this thread.
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Re: OT - I just got this in my email and thought I would share
Mike Romain wrote:
> That's all fine and dandy, but this is a world wide Jeep newsgroup and
> lots of us have no clue about nor could we care about US politics.
>
> Maybe take it to a political newsgroup.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I agree Mike. I've been watching this thread for a couple of days and only
now got boared enough to respond to it. btw, I didn't start this thread.
> That's all fine and dandy, but this is a world wide Jeep newsgroup and
> lots of us have no clue about nor could we care about US politics.
>
> Maybe take it to a political newsgroup.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I agree Mike. I've been watching this thread for a couple of days and only
now got boared enough to respond to it. btw, I didn't start this thread.
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Re: OT - I just got this in my email and thought I would share
Mike Romain wrote:
> That's all fine and dandy, but this is a world wide Jeep newsgroup and
> lots of us have no clue about nor could we care about US politics.
>
> Maybe take it to a political newsgroup.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I agree Mike. I've been watching this thread for a couple of days and only
now got boared enough to respond to it. btw, I didn't start this thread.
> That's all fine and dandy, but this is a world wide Jeep newsgroup and
> lots of us have no clue about nor could we care about US politics.
>
> Maybe take it to a political newsgroup.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I agree Mike. I've been watching this thread for a couple of days and only
now got boared enough to respond to it. btw, I didn't start this thread.
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Re: OT - I just got this in my email and thought I would share
Why would someone vote for an admitted war criminal:
http://hnn.us/articles/3552
" SEN. KERRY: There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say
that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of
other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free
fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50
calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which
were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy
missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the
laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and
all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the
government of the United States from the top down. And I believe that
the men who designed these, the men who designed the free fire zone, the
men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I
think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law
that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals."
CRWLR wrote:
> Not implying that at all.
>
> But, if one is going to ask me to stand on a wall and protect you and your
> loved ones, maybe you should think twice about complaining of the manner in
> which I provide that protection. As much as I fully support anybody's right
> to complain, I take them much more seriously if they have stood on the wall.
> I protected the right to complain by hoisting myself up on that wall many
> long years ago, I am not going to pull that right away from anybody now that
> I have offered my life in exchange for it.
>
> I have huge disagreements with almost everything that Kerry stands for, but
> I give him credit for standing beside me on the wall before he climbed up on
> his soapbox and began deriding our country and out leaders.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:O9adnQHN45TCt4fcRVn-rA@comcast.com...
>
>>Surely you and Bill aren't implying that ONLY those that has served in
>
> the
>
>>military has the right to complain about the politics and leadership of
>
> the
>
>>USA. While the choice to serve militarily is an honorable one, it is just
>>that, a CHOICE. The alternative based on your implication is a military
>>dictatorship.
>>
>>Now, if you don't vote, and therefore do not involve yourself in the
>>political process, then I would agree that you don't have the right to
>>complain.
>>
>>"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:10hisfo1tj7vnf7@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>I think that what Bill is saying here is, if you are going to complain
>>
>>about
>>
>>>how your country is being run, you should try standing in defense of it
>>>first, then complain later. At least Kerry got that part right.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:41194CD7.B08DDD56@***.net...
>>>
>>>> By the way you write I can say you haven't give up a couple of
>>>>years for your country. Like I have in the ARMY. You're just dead
>>>>weight!
>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>Jeff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I think Dan Quayle was thinking of you when he said:
>>>>>
>>>>>" What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or not to have a mind is
>>
>>being
>>
>>>>>very wasteful. How true that is."
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
http://hnn.us/articles/3552
" SEN. KERRY: There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say
that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of
other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free
fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50
calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which
were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy
missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the
laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and
all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the
government of the United States from the top down. And I believe that
the men who designed these, the men who designed the free fire zone, the
men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I
think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law
that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals."
CRWLR wrote:
> Not implying that at all.
>
> But, if one is going to ask me to stand on a wall and protect you and your
> loved ones, maybe you should think twice about complaining of the manner in
> which I provide that protection. As much as I fully support anybody's right
> to complain, I take them much more seriously if they have stood on the wall.
> I protected the right to complain by hoisting myself up on that wall many
> long years ago, I am not going to pull that right away from anybody now that
> I have offered my life in exchange for it.
>
> I have huge disagreements with almost everything that Kerry stands for, but
> I give him credit for standing beside me on the wall before he climbed up on
> his soapbox and began deriding our country and out leaders.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:O9adnQHN45TCt4fcRVn-rA@comcast.com...
>
>>Surely you and Bill aren't implying that ONLY those that has served in
>
> the
>
>>military has the right to complain about the politics and leadership of
>
> the
>
>>USA. While the choice to serve militarily is an honorable one, it is just
>>that, a CHOICE. The alternative based on your implication is a military
>>dictatorship.
>>
>>Now, if you don't vote, and therefore do not involve yourself in the
>>political process, then I would agree that you don't have the right to
>>complain.
>>
>>"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:10hisfo1tj7vnf7@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>I think that what Bill is saying here is, if you are going to complain
>>
>>about
>>
>>>how your country is being run, you should try standing in defense of it
>>>first, then complain later. At least Kerry got that part right.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:41194CD7.B08DDD56@***.net...
>>>
>>>> By the way you write I can say you haven't give up a couple of
>>>>years for your country. Like I have in the ARMY. You're just dead
>>>>weight!
>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>Jeff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I think Dan Quayle was thinking of you when he said:
>>>>>
>>>>>" What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or not to have a mind is
>>
>>being
>>
>>>>>very wasteful. How true that is."
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>