OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
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Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
You must be in the 44" with 5.89 camp! ;-)
"Bob Casanova" <nospam@buzz.off> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:14:37 -0700, the following appeared
> in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "Kevin Sperle"
> <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>:
>
> >Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just
as
> >bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> >different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> >answers!
> >
> >Example A:
> >Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> >day)?
> >Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> >consistently bring down elk"
> >Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150
grain
> >bullet"
> >Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> >stopping power and resonable recoil"
> >Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
> >
> >Example B:
> >Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and
moderate
> >off road?
> >Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> >Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> >anything" Mike R. ;-)
> >Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> >power and reasonble handling"
> >Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
> >
> >Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> >upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> >has :-)
>
> Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> (without the spaces, of course)
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> - Isaac Asimov
"Bob Casanova" <nospam@buzz.off> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:14:37 -0700, the following appeared
> in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "Kevin Sperle"
> <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>:
>
> >Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just
as
> >bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> >different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> >answers!
> >
> >Example A:
> >Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> >day)?
> >Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> >consistently bring down elk"
> >Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150
grain
> >bullet"
> >Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> >stopping power and resonable recoil"
> >Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
> >
> >Example B:
> >Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and
moderate
> >off road?
> >Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> >Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> >anything" Mike R. ;-)
> >Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> >power and reasonble handling"
> >Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
> >
> >Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> >upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> >has :-)
>
> Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> (without the spaces, of course)
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> - Isaac Asimov
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Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
You must be in the 44" with 5.89 camp! ;-)
"Bob Casanova" <nospam@buzz.off> wrote in message
news:jrba301pai4foi2d246jb1gjp96ola9jve@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:14:37 -0700, the following appeared
> in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "Kevin Sperle"
> <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>:
>
> >Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just
as
> >bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> >different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> >answers!
> >
> >Example A:
> >Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> >day)?
> >Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> >consistently bring down elk"
> >Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150
grain
> >bullet"
> >Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> >stopping power and resonable recoil"
> >Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
> >
> >Example B:
> >Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and
moderate
> >off road?
> >Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> >Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> >anything" Mike R. ;-)
> >Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> >power and reasonble handling"
> >Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
> >
> >Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> >upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> >has :-)
>
> Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> (without the spaces, of course)
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> - Isaac Asimov
"Bob Casanova" <nospam@buzz.off> wrote in message
news:jrba301pai4foi2d246jb1gjp96ola9jve@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:14:37 -0700, the following appeared
> in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "Kevin Sperle"
> <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>:
>
> >Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just
as
> >bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> >different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> >answers!
> >
> >Example A:
> >Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> >day)?
> >Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> >consistently bring down elk"
> >Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150
grain
> >bullet"
> >Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> >stopping power and resonable recoil"
> >Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
> >
> >Example B:
> >Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and
moderate
> >off road?
> >Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> >Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> >anything" Mike R. ;-)
> >Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> >power and reasonble handling"
> >Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
> >
> >Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> >upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> >has :-)
>
> Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> (without the spaces, of course)
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> - Isaac Asimov
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Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
You must be in the 44" with 5.89 camp! ;-)
"Bob Casanova" <nospam@buzz.off> wrote in message
news:jrba301pai4foi2d246jb1gjp96ola9jve@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:14:37 -0700, the following appeared
> in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "Kevin Sperle"
> <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>:
>
> >Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just
as
> >bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> >different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> >answers!
> >
> >Example A:
> >Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> >day)?
> >Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> >consistently bring down elk"
> >Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150
grain
> >bullet"
> >Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> >stopping power and resonable recoil"
> >Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
> >
> >Example B:
> >Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and
moderate
> >off road?
> >Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> >Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> >anything" Mike R. ;-)
> >Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> >power and reasonble handling"
> >Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
> >
> >Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> >upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> >has :-)
>
> Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> (without the spaces, of course)
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> - Isaac Asimov
"Bob Casanova" <nospam@buzz.off> wrote in message
news:jrba301pai4foi2d246jb1gjp96ola9jve@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:14:37 -0700, the following appeared
> in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "Kevin Sperle"
> <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>:
>
> >Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just
as
> >bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> >different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> >answers!
> >
> >Example A:
> >Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> >day)?
> >Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> >consistently bring down elk"
> >Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150
grain
> >bullet"
> >Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> >stopping power and resonable recoil"
> >Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
> >
> >Example B:
> >Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and
moderate
> >off road?
> >Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> >Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> >anything" Mike R. ;-)
> >Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> >power and reasonble handling"
> >Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
> >
> >Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> >upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> >has :-)
>
> Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> (without the spaces, of course)
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> - Isaac Asimov
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Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
I've got a buddy trying to sell me his "barely used" Weatherby Vanguard
Synthetic 7mm Rem Mag. Actually it is in great shape and I know he's only
hunted with it once or twice. I know the vanguards are made specifically
for Wal-Mart and the actions are produced by Howa out of Japan instead of by
Weatherby though.
As far as new stuff, been looking at Ruger M77's, Remington 700's and some
Savages. Trying to keep in that general price range since I need $$ to
finish my tub swap :-)
> I vote the 7 mag.
> Will take anything on the American Continent and the recoil is
> reasonable.
>
> Winchester Fail-Safe Ammo comes in all types of Game loads from
> "Varmint" to "Thick Skinned Dangerous Game" (Cape Buffalo)
Synthetic 7mm Rem Mag. Actually it is in great shape and I know he's only
hunted with it once or twice. I know the vanguards are made specifically
for Wal-Mart and the actions are produced by Howa out of Japan instead of by
Weatherby though.
As far as new stuff, been looking at Ruger M77's, Remington 700's and some
Savages. Trying to keep in that general price range since I need $$ to
finish my tub swap :-)
> I vote the 7 mag.
> Will take anything on the American Continent and the recoil is
> reasonable.
>
> Winchester Fail-Safe Ammo comes in all types of Game loads from
> "Varmint" to "Thick Skinned Dangerous Game" (Cape Buffalo)
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Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
I've got a buddy trying to sell me his "barely used" Weatherby Vanguard
Synthetic 7mm Rem Mag. Actually it is in great shape and I know he's only
hunted with it once or twice. I know the vanguards are made specifically
for Wal-Mart and the actions are produced by Howa out of Japan instead of by
Weatherby though.
As far as new stuff, been looking at Ruger M77's, Remington 700's and some
Savages. Trying to keep in that general price range since I need $$ to
finish my tub swap :-)
> I vote the 7 mag.
> Will take anything on the American Continent and the recoil is
> reasonable.
>
> Winchester Fail-Safe Ammo comes in all types of Game loads from
> "Varmint" to "Thick Skinned Dangerous Game" (Cape Buffalo)
Synthetic 7mm Rem Mag. Actually it is in great shape and I know he's only
hunted with it once or twice. I know the vanguards are made specifically
for Wal-Mart and the actions are produced by Howa out of Japan instead of by
Weatherby though.
As far as new stuff, been looking at Ruger M77's, Remington 700's and some
Savages. Trying to keep in that general price range since I need $$ to
finish my tub swap :-)
> I vote the 7 mag.
> Will take anything on the American Continent and the recoil is
> reasonable.
>
> Winchester Fail-Safe Ammo comes in all types of Game loads from
> "Varmint" to "Thick Skinned Dangerous Game" (Cape Buffalo)
#16
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Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
I've got a buddy trying to sell me his "barely used" Weatherby Vanguard
Synthetic 7mm Rem Mag. Actually it is in great shape and I know he's only
hunted with it once or twice. I know the vanguards are made specifically
for Wal-Mart and the actions are produced by Howa out of Japan instead of by
Weatherby though.
As far as new stuff, been looking at Ruger M77's, Remington 700's and some
Savages. Trying to keep in that general price range since I need $$ to
finish my tub swap :-)
> I vote the 7 mag.
> Will take anything on the American Continent and the recoil is
> reasonable.
>
> Winchester Fail-Safe Ammo comes in all types of Game loads from
> "Varmint" to "Thick Skinned Dangerous Game" (Cape Buffalo)
Synthetic 7mm Rem Mag. Actually it is in great shape and I know he's only
hunted with it once or twice. I know the vanguards are made specifically
for Wal-Mart and the actions are produced by Howa out of Japan instead of by
Weatherby though.
As far as new stuff, been looking at Ruger M77's, Remington 700's and some
Savages. Trying to keep in that general price range since I need $$ to
finish my tub swap :-)
> I vote the 7 mag.
> Will take anything on the American Continent and the recoil is
> reasonable.
>
> Winchester Fail-Safe Ammo comes in all types of Game loads from
> "Varmint" to "Thick Skinned Dangerous Game" (Cape Buffalo)
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Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
Or: http://www.----------.com/prairieDogAerobatics.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bob Casanova wrote:
>
> Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> (without the spaces, of course)
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> - Isaac Asimov
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bob Casanova wrote:
>
> Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> (without the spaces, of course)
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> - Isaac Asimov
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Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
Or: http://www.----------.com/prairieDogAerobatics.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bob Casanova wrote:
>
> Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> (without the spaces, of course)
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> - Isaac Asimov
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bob Casanova wrote:
>
> Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> (without the spaces, of course)
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> - Isaac Asimov
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Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
Or: http://www.----------.com/prairieDogAerobatics.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bob Casanova wrote:
>
> Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> (without the spaces, of course)
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> - Isaac Asimov
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bob Casanova wrote:
>
> Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> (without the spaces, of course)
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> - Isaac Asimov
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Re: Hunting vs. Off-roading
"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gK9Zb.98$3F6.22375@news.uswest.net...
> Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just as
> bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> answers!
>
> Example A:
> Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> day)?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> consistently bring down elk"
> Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150 grain
> bullet"
> Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> stopping power and resonable recoil"
> Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
>
> Example B:
> Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and moderate
> off road?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> anything" Mike R. ;-)
> Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> power and reasonble handling"
> Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
>
> Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> has :-)
>
I won't recommend a tire/gear combo for you, but I'll give you my $.02 on
the rifle. The .30-06 is about the most versatile caliber out there, and can
be loaded for anything from varmints to moose. The 7mm Mag is more than
adequate for the big game, but it lacks the versatility of the 06. Many
people hunt elk with a .270, and a well placed shot will take down an elk no
problem. There is also a .300 Winchester Mag and .338 Winchester Mag that
will do the job. All in all, if I didn't have a gun and wanted the most
versatile gun, I'd choose the .30-06. If you can get a deal on that
Weatherby though, I would snag that in a heartbeat because it will do the
job nicely as well.
Chris