OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just as
bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
answers!

Example A:
Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
day)?
Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
consistently bring down elk"
Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150 grain
bullet"
Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
stopping power and resonable recoil"
Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"

Example B:
Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and moderate
off road?
Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
anything" Mike R. ;-)
Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
power and reasonble handling"
Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"

Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
has :-)

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

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Kevin Sperle wrote:
>
> Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just as
> bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> answers!
>
> Example A:
> Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> day)?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> consistently bring down elk"
> Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150 grain
> bullet"
> Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> stopping power and resonable recoil"
> Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
>
> Example B:
> Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and moderate
> off road?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> anything" Mike R. ;-)
> Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> power and reasonble handling"
> Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
>
> Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> has :-)

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

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Kevin Sperle wrote:
>
> Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just as
> bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> answers!
>
> Example A:
> Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> day)?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> consistently bring down elk"
> Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150 grain
> bullet"
> Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> stopping power and resonable recoil"
> Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
>
> Example B:
> Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and moderate
> off road?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> anything" Mike R. ;-)
> Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> power and reasonble handling"
> Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
>
> Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> has :-)

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

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Kevin Sperle wrote:
>
> Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just as
> bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> answers!
>
> Example A:
> Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> day)?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> consistently bring down elk"
> Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150 grain
> bullet"
> Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> stopping power and resonable recoil"
> Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
>
> Example B:
> Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and moderate
> off road?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> anything" Mike R. ;-)
> Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> power and reasonble handling"
> Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
>
> Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> has :-)

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

In article <gK9Zb.98$3F6.22375@news.uswest.net>,
"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

> Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just as
> bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> answers!
>
> Example A:
> Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> day)?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> consistently bring down elk"
> Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150 grain
> bullet"
> Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> stopping power and resonable recoil"
> Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
>
> Example B:
> Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and moderate
> off road?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> anything" Mike R. ;-)
> Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> power and reasonble handling"
> Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
>
> Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> has :-)
>
>

I vote the 7 mag.
Will take anything on the American Continent and the recoil is
reasonable.

Winchester Fail-Safe Ammo comes in all types of Game loads from
"Varmint" to "Thick Skinned Dangerous Game" (Cape Buffalo)


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Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

In article <gK9Zb.98$3F6.22375@news.uswest.net>,
"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

> Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just as
> bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> answers!
>
> Example A:
> Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> day)?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> consistently bring down elk"
> Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150 grain
> bullet"
> Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> stopping power and resonable recoil"
> Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
>
> Example B:
> Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and moderate
> off road?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> anything" Mike R. ;-)
> Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> power and reasonble handling"
> Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
>
> Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> has :-)
>
>

I vote the 7 mag.
Will take anything on the American Continent and the recoil is
reasonable.

Winchester Fail-Safe Ammo comes in all types of Game loads from
"Varmint" to "Thick Skinned Dangerous Game" (Cape Buffalo)


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Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

In article <gK9Zb.98$3F6.22375@news.uswest.net>,
"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

> Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just as
> bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> answers!
>
> Example A:
> Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> day)?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> consistently bring down elk"
> Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150 grain
> bullet"
> Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> stopping power and resonable recoil"
> Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
>
> Example B:
> Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and moderate
> off road?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> anything" Mike R. ;-)
> Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> power and reasonble handling"
> Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
>
> Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> has :-)
>
>

I vote the 7 mag.
Will take anything on the American Continent and the recoil is
reasonable.

Winchester Fail-Safe Ammo comes in all types of Game loads from
"Varmint" to "Thick Skinned Dangerous Game" (Cape Buffalo)


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Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:14:37 -0700, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "Kevin Sperle"
<ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>:

>Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just as
>bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
>different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
>answers!
>
>Example A:
>Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
>day)?
>Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
>consistently bring down elk"
>Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150 grain
>bullet"
>Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
>stopping power and resonable recoil"
>Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
>
>Example B:
>Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and moderate
>off road?
>Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
>Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
>anything" Mike R. ;-)
>Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
>power and reasonble handling"
>Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
>
>Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
>upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
>has :-)

Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
;-)

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'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
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Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:14:37 -0700, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "Kevin Sperle"
<ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>:

>Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just as
>bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
>different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
>answers!
>
>Example A:
>Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
>day)?
>Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
>consistently bring down elk"
>Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150 grain
>bullet"
>Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
>stopping power and resonable recoil"
>Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
>
>Example B:
>Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and moderate
>off road?
>Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
>Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
>anything" Mike R. ;-)
>Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
>power and reasonble handling"
>Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
>
>Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
>upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
>has :-)

Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
;-)

--

Bob C.

Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
(without the spaces, of course)

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:14:37 -0700, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "Kevin Sperle"
<ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>:

>Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just as
>bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
>different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
>answers!
>
>Example A:
>Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
>day)?
>Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
>consistently bring down elk"
>Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150 grain
>bullet"
>Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
>stopping power and resonable recoil"
>Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
>
>Example B:
>Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and moderate
>off road?
>Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
>Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
>anything" Mike R. ;-)
>Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
>power and reasonble handling"
>Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
>
>Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
>upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
>has :-)

Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
;-)

--

Bob C.

Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
(without the spaces, of course)

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

You must be in the 44" with 5.89 camp! ;-)

"Bob Casanova" <nospam@buzz.off> wrote in message
news:jrba301pai4foi2d246jb1gjp96ola9jve@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:14:37 -0700, the following appeared
> in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "Kevin Sperle"
> <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>:
>
> >Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just
as
> >bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> >different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> >answers!
> >
> >Example A:
> >Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> >day)?
> >Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> >consistently bring down elk"
> >Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150
grain
> >bullet"
> >Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> >stopping power and resonable recoil"
> >Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
> >
> >Example B:
> >Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and
moderate
> >off road?
> >Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> >Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> >anything" Mike R. ;-)
> >Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> >power and reasonble handling"
> >Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
> >
> >Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> >upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> >has :-)
>
> Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> (without the spaces, of course)
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> - Isaac Asimov

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

You must be in the 44" with 5.89 camp! ;-)

"Bob Casanova" <nospam@buzz.off> wrote in message
news:jrba301pai4foi2d246jb1gjp96ola9jve@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:14:37 -0700, the following appeared
> in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "Kevin Sperle"
> <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>:
>
> >Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just
as
> >bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> >different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> >answers!
> >
> >Example A:
> >Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> >day)?
> >Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> >consistently bring down elk"
> >Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150
grain
> >bullet"
> >Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> >stopping power and resonable recoil"
> >Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
> >
> >Example B:
> >Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and
moderate
> >off road?
> >Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> >Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> >anything" Mike R. ;-)
> >Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> >power and reasonble handling"
> >Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
> >
> >Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> >upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> >has :-)
>
> Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> (without the spaces, of course)
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> - Isaac Asimov

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

You must be in the 44" with 5.89 camp! ;-)

"Bob Casanova" <nospam@buzz.off> wrote in message
news:jrba301pai4foi2d246jb1gjp96ola9jve@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:14:37 -0700, the following appeared
> in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "Kevin Sperle"
> <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>:
>
> >Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just
as
> >bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> >different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> >answers!
> >
> >Example A:
> >Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> >day)?
> >Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> >consistently bring down elk"
> >Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150
grain
> >bullet"
> >Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> >stopping power and resonable recoil"
> >Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
> >
> >Example B:
> >Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and
moderate
> >off road?
> >Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> >Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> >anything" Mike R. ;-)
> >Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> >power and reasonble handling"
> >Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
> >
> >Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> >upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> >has :-)
>
> Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> (without the spaces, of course)
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> - Isaac Asimov

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

I've got a buddy trying to sell me his "barely used" Weatherby Vanguard
Synthetic 7mm Rem Mag. Actually it is in great shape and I know he's only
hunted with it once or twice. I know the vanguards are made specifically
for Wal-Mart and the actions are produced by Howa out of Japan instead of by
Weatherby though.

As far as new stuff, been looking at Ruger M77's, Remington 700's and some
Savages. Trying to keep in that general price range since I need $$ to
finish my tub swap :-)

> I vote the 7 mag.
> Will take anything on the American Continent and the recoil is
> reasonable.
>
> Winchester Fail-Safe Ammo comes in all types of Game loads from
> "Varmint" to "Thick Skinned Dangerous Game" (Cape Buffalo)

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

I've got a buddy trying to sell me his "barely used" Weatherby Vanguard
Synthetic 7mm Rem Mag. Actually it is in great shape and I know he's only
hunted with it once or twice. I know the vanguards are made specifically
for Wal-Mart and the actions are produced by Howa out of Japan instead of by
Weatherby though.

As far as new stuff, been looking at Ruger M77's, Remington 700's and some
Savages. Trying to keep in that general price range since I need $$ to
finish my tub swap :-)

> I vote the 7 mag.
> Will take anything on the American Continent and the recoil is
> reasonable.
>
> Winchester Fail-Safe Ammo comes in all types of Game loads from
> "Varmint" to "Thick Skinned Dangerous Game" (Cape Buffalo)

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

I've got a buddy trying to sell me his "barely used" Weatherby Vanguard
Synthetic 7mm Rem Mag. Actually it is in great shape and I know he's only
hunted with it once or twice. I know the vanguards are made specifically
for Wal-Mart and the actions are produced by Howa out of Japan instead of by
Weatherby though.

As far as new stuff, been looking at Ruger M77's, Remington 700's and some
Savages. Trying to keep in that general price range since I need $$ to
finish my tub swap :-)

> I vote the 7 mag.
> Will take anything on the American Continent and the recoil is
> reasonable.
>
> Winchester Fail-Safe Ammo comes in all types of Game loads from
> "Varmint" to "Thick Skinned Dangerous Game" (Cape Buffalo)

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

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Bob Casanova wrote:
>
> Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> (without the spaces, of course)
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> - Isaac Asimov

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

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Bob Casanova wrote:
>
> Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> (without the spaces, of course)
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> - Isaac Asimov

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

Or: http://www.----------.com/prairieDogAerobatics.jpg
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mailto:--------------------

Bob Casanova wrote:
>
> Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> (without the spaces, of course)
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> - Isaac Asimov

Re: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gK9Zb.98$3F6.22375@news.uswest.net...
> Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just as
> bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> answers!
>
> Example A:
> Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> day)?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> consistently bring down elk"
> Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150 grain
> bullet"
> Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> stopping power and resonable recoil"
> Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
>
> Example B:
> Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and moderate
> off road?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> anything" Mike R. ;-)
> Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> power and reasonble handling"
> Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
>
> Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> has :-)
>

I won't recommend a tire/gear combo for you, but I'll give you my $.02 on
the rifle. The .30-06 is about the most versatile caliber out there, and can
be loaded for anything from varmints to moose. The 7mm Mag is more than
adequate for the big game, but it lacks the versatility of the 06. Many
people hunt elk with a .270, and a well placed shot will take down an elk no
problem. There is also a .300 Winchester Mag and .338 Winchester Mag that
will do the job. All in all, if I didn't have a gun and wanted the most
versatile gun, I'd choose the .30-06. If you can get a deal on that
Weatherby though, I would snag that in a heartbeat because it will do the
job nicely as well.

Chris

Re: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gK9Zb.98$3F6.22375@news.uswest.net...
> Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just as
> bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> answers!
>
> Example A:
> Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> day)?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> consistently bring down elk"
> Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150 grain
> bullet"
> Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> stopping power and resonable recoil"
> Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
>
> Example B:
> Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and moderate
> off road?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> anything" Mike R. ;-)
> Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> power and reasonble handling"
> Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
>
> Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> has :-)
>

I won't recommend a tire/gear combo for you, but I'll give you my $.02 on
the rifle. The .30-06 is about the most versatile caliber out there, and can
be loaded for anything from varmints to moose. The 7mm Mag is more than
adequate for the big game, but it lacks the versatility of the 06. Many
people hunt elk with a .270, and a well placed shot will take down an elk no
problem. There is also a .300 Winchester Mag and .338 Winchester Mag that
will do the job. All in all, if I didn't have a gun and wanted the most
versatile gun, I'd choose the .30-06. If you can get a deal on that
Weatherby though, I would snag that in a heartbeat because it will do the
job nicely as well.

Chris

Re: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gK9Zb.98$3F6.22375@news.uswest.net...
> Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just as
> bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> answers!
>
> Example A:
> Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope some
> day)?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> consistently bring down elk"
> Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150 grain
> bullet"
> Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> stopping power and resonable recoil"
> Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
>
> Example B:
> Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and moderate
> off road?
> Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> anything" Mike R. ;-)
> Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> power and reasonble handling"
> Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
>
> Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone else
> has :-)
>

I won't recommend a tire/gear combo for you, but I'll give you my $.02 on
the rifle. The .30-06 is about the most versatile caliber out there, and can
be loaded for anything from varmints to moose. The 7mm Mag is more than
adequate for the big game, but it lacks the versatility of the 06. Many
people hunt elk with a .270, and a well placed shot will take down an elk no
problem. There is also a .300 Winchester Mag and .338 Winchester Mag that
will do the job. All in all, if I didn't have a gun and wanted the most
versatile gun, I'd choose the .30-06. If you can get a deal on that
Weatherby though, I would snag that in a heartbeat because it will do the
job nicely as well.

Chris

Re: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

> All in all, if I didn't have a gun and wanted the most versatile gun, I'd
choose the .30-06.

Yeah, I'm pretty much down to deciding between .30-06 or 7mm Rem Mag. Elk
is my main desire, but I won't rule out wanting to hunt deer or antelope
someday.

> If you can get a deal on that Weatherby though, I would snag that in a
heartbeat because it will
> do the job nicely as well.

I can get the Weatherby with a 3x9 Leupold scope and Burris one piece mounts
for $450, or I can get his Remmington 700 BDL .30-06 with the same
scope/mount combo for the same price.

A brand new Weatherby Vanguard sells for $389 + plus approx $40? for those
mounts, and $199 for the same scope, + about $49 (tax) = $677 brand new
Savings of about $227 for buying slightly used.

Re: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

> All in all, if I didn't have a gun and wanted the most versatile gun, I'd
choose the .30-06.

Yeah, I'm pretty much down to deciding between .30-06 or 7mm Rem Mag. Elk
is my main desire, but I won't rule out wanting to hunt deer or antelope
someday.

> If you can get a deal on that Weatherby though, I would snag that in a
heartbeat because it will
> do the job nicely as well.

I can get the Weatherby with a 3x9 Leupold scope and Burris one piece mounts
for $450, or I can get his Remmington 700 BDL .30-06 with the same
scope/mount combo for the same price.

A brand new Weatherby Vanguard sells for $389 + plus approx $40? for those
mounts, and $199 for the same scope, + about $49 (tax) = $677 brand new
Savings of about $227 for buying slightly used.

Re: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

> All in all, if I didn't have a gun and wanted the most versatile gun, I'd
choose the .30-06.

Yeah, I'm pretty much down to deciding between .30-06 or 7mm Rem Mag. Elk
is my main desire, but I won't rule out wanting to hunt deer or antelope
someday.

> If you can get a deal on that Weatherby though, I would snag that in a
heartbeat because it will
> do the job nicely as well.

I can get the Weatherby with a 3x9 Leupold scope and Burris one piece mounts
for $450, or I can get his Remmington 700 BDL .30-06 with the same
scope/mount combo for the same price.

A brand new Weatherby Vanguard sells for $389 + plus approx $40? for those
mounts, and $199 for the same scope, + about $49 (tax) = $677 brand new
Savings of about $227 for buying slightly used.

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

Hi Kevin,

Here in Eagle County we predominantly use the common three: 30-06, 270, and
7mm. I've met a lot of avid hunters here between Vail and Gypsum that have
hunted here, some for over 50 seasons. I see the 30-06 and the 270 as a
close tie. I've shot both and think both are great firearms. I can't very
well give you my view of a 7mm because I've never fired one. However, the
folks I know that use them, like them alot. Personally I think their "Over
Kill". Remember all three of these guns will kill Elk and Deer (Fact). The
limiting factor is shooter skill. The 30-06 and 270 IMO are all you need.
A well placed shot will do the job. What I have seen is that the people who
use the 7mm (also IMO) don't need a well placed shot. I've seen a deer get
knocked off it's feet just by a 7mm round that hit the ground under-neath
it. Of course it got up and run off, but it gave the shooter another chance
while the animal was stunned, which again in this case, he missed the second
shot as well.

I'd base your purchase around the terrain you plan to hunt. 30-06 IMO fair
better in the forests. In the forest, speed doesn't play as big a role.
They seem to be able to go through a twig or leaves without being knocked of
course too far, which depends on the final distance. While still
maintaining plenty of knock down. The 270 is close, but the speed and
lighter grain I think fair better with open area distance shooting
(fields/range land). The ballistic trajectory can handle distance better
while maintaining precision and accuracy. Lastly, remember the
bigger/heavier the bullet is directly effects the quantity and quality of
your cuts of meat and steaks.

Maybe try to find a gun range or club that you could visit and try out the
different calibers to find which firearm matches your shooting skills.

All the Best,
Paul




"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:NJaZb.69$RO3.30996@news.uswest.net...
> You must be in the 44" with 5.89 camp! ;-)
>
> "Bob Casanova" <nospam@buzz.off> wrote in message
> news:jrba301pai4foi2d246jb1gjp96ola9jve@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:14:37 -0700, the following appeared
> > in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "Kevin Sperle"
> > <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>:
> >
> > >Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just
> as
> > >bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask
5
> > >different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> > >answers!
> > >
> > >Example A:
> > >Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope
some
> > >day)?
> > >Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> > >consistently bring down elk"
> > >Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150
> grain
> > >bullet"
> > >Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> > >stopping power and resonable recoil"
> > >Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
> > >
> > >Example B:
> > >Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and
> moderate
> > >off road?
> > >Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> > >Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get
up
> > >anything" Mike R. ;-)
> > >Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> > >power and reasonble handling"
> > >Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
> > >
> > >Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> > >upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone
else
> > >has :-)
> >
> > Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> > ;-)
> >
> > --
> >
> > Bob C.
> >
> > Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> > (without the spaces, of course)
> >
> > "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> > the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> > 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> > - Isaac Asimov
>
>

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

Hi Kevin,

Here in Eagle County we predominantly use the common three: 30-06, 270, and
7mm. I've met a lot of avid hunters here between Vail and Gypsum that have
hunted here, some for over 50 seasons. I see the 30-06 and the 270 as a
close tie. I've shot both and think both are great firearms. I can't very
well give you my view of a 7mm because I've never fired one. However, the
folks I know that use them, like them alot. Personally I think their "Over
Kill". Remember all three of these guns will kill Elk and Deer (Fact). The
limiting factor is shooter skill. The 30-06 and 270 IMO are all you need.
A well placed shot will do the job. What I have seen is that the people who
use the 7mm (also IMO) don't need a well placed shot. I've seen a deer get
knocked off it's feet just by a 7mm round that hit the ground under-neath
it. Of course it got up and run off, but it gave the shooter another chance
while the animal was stunned, which again in this case, he missed the second
shot as well.

I'd base your purchase around the terrain you plan to hunt. 30-06 IMO fair
better in the forests. In the forest, speed doesn't play as big a role.
They seem to be able to go through a twig or leaves without being knocked of
course too far, which depends on the final distance. While still
maintaining plenty of knock down. The 270 is close, but the speed and
lighter grain I think fair better with open area distance shooting
(fields/range land). The ballistic trajectory can handle distance better
while maintaining precision and accuracy. Lastly, remember the
bigger/heavier the bullet is directly effects the quantity and quality of
your cuts of meat and steaks.

Maybe try to find a gun range or club that you could visit and try out the
different calibers to find which firearm matches your shooting skills.

All the Best,
Paul




"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:NJaZb.69$RO3.30996@news.uswest.net...
> You must be in the 44" with 5.89 camp! ;-)
>
> "Bob Casanova" <nospam@buzz.off> wrote in message
> news:jrba301pai4foi2d246jb1gjp96ola9jve@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:14:37 -0700, the following appeared
> > in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "Kevin Sperle"
> > <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>:
> >
> > >Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just
> as
> > >bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask
5
> > >different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> > >answers!
> > >
> > >Example A:
> > >Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope
some
> > >day)?
> > >Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> > >consistently bring down elk"
> > >Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150
> grain
> > >bullet"
> > >Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> > >stopping power and resonable recoil"
> > >Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
> > >
> > >Example B:
> > >Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and
> moderate
> > >off road?
> > >Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> > >Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get
up
> > >anything" Mike R. ;-)
> > >Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> > >power and reasonble handling"
> > >Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
> > >
> > >Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> > >upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone
else
> > >has :-)
> >
> > Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> > ;-)
> >
> > --
> >
> > Bob C.
> >
> > Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> > (without the spaces, of course)
> >
> > "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> > the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> > 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> > - Isaac Asimov
>
>

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

Hi Kevin,

Here in Eagle County we predominantly use the common three: 30-06, 270, and
7mm. I've met a lot of avid hunters here between Vail and Gypsum that have
hunted here, some for over 50 seasons. I see the 30-06 and the 270 as a
close tie. I've shot both and think both are great firearms. I can't very
well give you my view of a 7mm because I've never fired one. However, the
folks I know that use them, like them alot. Personally I think their "Over
Kill". Remember all three of these guns will kill Elk and Deer (Fact). The
limiting factor is shooter skill. The 30-06 and 270 IMO are all you need.
A well placed shot will do the job. What I have seen is that the people who
use the 7mm (also IMO) don't need a well placed shot. I've seen a deer get
knocked off it's feet just by a 7mm round that hit the ground under-neath
it. Of course it got up and run off, but it gave the shooter another chance
while the animal was stunned, which again in this case, he missed the second
shot as well.

I'd base your purchase around the terrain you plan to hunt. 30-06 IMO fair
better in the forests. In the forest, speed doesn't play as big a role.
They seem to be able to go through a twig or leaves without being knocked of
course too far, which depends on the final distance. While still
maintaining plenty of knock down. The 270 is close, but the speed and
lighter grain I think fair better with open area distance shooting
(fields/range land). The ballistic trajectory can handle distance better
while maintaining precision and accuracy. Lastly, remember the
bigger/heavier the bullet is directly effects the quantity and quality of
your cuts of meat and steaks.

Maybe try to find a gun range or club that you could visit and try out the
different calibers to find which firearm matches your shooting skills.

All the Best,
Paul




"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:NJaZb.69$RO3.30996@news.uswest.net...
> You must be in the 44" with 5.89 camp! ;-)
>
> "Bob Casanova" <nospam@buzz.off> wrote in message
> news:jrba301pai4foi2d246jb1gjp96ola9jve@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:14:37 -0700, the following appeared
> > in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "Kevin Sperle"
> > <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com>:
> >
> > >Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just
> as
> > >bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask
5
> > >different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> > >answers!
> > >
> > >Example A:
> > >Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope
some
> > >day)?
> > >Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> > >consistently bring down elk"
> > >Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150
> grain
> > >bullet"
> > >Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> > >stopping power and resonable recoil"
> > >Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
> > >
> > >Example B:
> > >Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and
> moderate
> > >off road?
> > >Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> > >Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get
up
> > >anything" Mike R. ;-)
> > >Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> > >power and reasonble handling"
> > >Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
> > >
> > >Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> > >upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone
else
> > >has :-)
> >
> > Go for a .460 Weatherby; you can load down for squirrels.
> > ;-)
> >
> > --
> >
> > Bob C.
> >
> > Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
> > (without the spaces, of course)
> >
> > "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> > the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> > 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
> > - Isaac Asimov
>
>

Re: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

Synthetic stocks, I don't think handle recoil as comfortably as wood.

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:uobZb.27007$fW.19421@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> "Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:gK9Zb.98$3F6.22375@news.uswest.net...
> > Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just
as
> > bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> > different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> > answers!
> >
> > Example A:
> > Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope
some
> > day)?
> > Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> > consistently bring down elk"
> > Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150
grain
> > bullet"
> > Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> > stopping power and resonable recoil"
> > Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
> >
> > Example B:
> > Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and
moderate
> > off road?
> > Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> > Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> > anything" Mike R. ;-)
> > Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> > power and reasonble handling"
> > Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
> >
> > Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> > upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone
else
> > has :-)
> >
>
> I won't recommend a tire/gear combo for you, but I'll give you my $.02 on
> the rifle. The .30-06 is about the most versatile caliber out there, and
can
> be loaded for anything from varmints to moose. The 7mm Mag is more than
> adequate for the big game, but it lacks the versatility of the 06. Many
> people hunt elk with a .270, and a well placed shot will take down an elk
no
> problem. There is also a .300 Winchester Mag and .338 Winchester Mag that
> will do the job. All in all, if I didn't have a gun and wanted the most
> versatile gun, I'd choose the .30-06. If you can get a deal on that
> Weatherby though, I would snag that in a heartbeat because it will do the
> job nicely as well.
>
> Chris
>
>

Re: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

Synthetic stocks, I don't think handle recoil as comfortably as wood.

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:uobZb.27007$fW.19421@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> "Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:gK9Zb.98$3F6.22375@news.uswest.net...
> > Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just
as
> > bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> > different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> > answers!
> >
> > Example A:
> > Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope
some
> > day)?
> > Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> > consistently bring down elk"
> > Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150
grain
> > bullet"
> > Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> > stopping power and resonable recoil"
> > Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
> >
> > Example B:
> > Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and
moderate
> > off road?
> > Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> > Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> > anything" Mike R. ;-)
> > Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> > power and reasonble handling"
> > Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
> >
> > Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> > upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone
else
> > has :-)
> >
>
> I won't recommend a tire/gear combo for you, but I'll give you my $.02 on
> the rifle. The .30-06 is about the most versatile caliber out there, and
can
> be loaded for anything from varmints to moose. The 7mm Mag is more than
> adequate for the big game, but it lacks the versatility of the 06. Many
> people hunt elk with a .270, and a well placed shot will take down an elk
no
> problem. There is also a .300 Winchester Mag and .338 Winchester Mag that
> will do the job. All in all, if I didn't have a gun and wanted the most
> versatile gun, I'd choose the .30-06. If you can get a deal on that
> Weatherby though, I would snag that in a heartbeat because it will do the
> job nicely as well.
>
> Chris
>
>

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Synthetic stocks, I don't think handle recoil as comfortably as wood.

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:uobZb.27007$fW.19421@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> "Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:gK9Zb.98$3F6.22375@news.uswest.net...
> > Geez, I think trying to decide between rifle models and caibers is just
as
> > bad as learning about gearing and crawl ratios and tire size. You ask 5
> > different people the same question and will probably get 6 different
> > answers!
> >
> > Example A:
> > Q: What should I buy for an elk rifle (maybe hunt deer and antelope
some
> > day)?
> > Person 1: "You need at LEAST a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet to
> > consistently bring down elk"
> > Person 2: "All you need is a well placed shot with a .270 and a 150
grain
> > bullet"
> > Person 3: "You want a 7mm and 175 grain bullet for the best all around
> > stopping power and resonable recoil"
> > Person 4: "No.... you need a .300 magnum and 220 grain bullet!"
> >
> > Example B:
> > Q: What's the best tire size/gears to run for a daily driver and
moderate
> > off road?
> > Person 1: "You need at LEAST 35" tires with 4.56 gears"
> > Person 2: "All you need is 32" tires and some driving ability to get up
> > anything" Mike R. ;-)
> > Person 3: "You want a 33" tire with 4.10 gears for the best all around
> > power and reasonble handling"
> > Person 4: "No.... you need 44" swampers and 5.89's!"
> >
> > Sorry, slow day at work and I've been trying to make up my mind on my
> > upcoming first rifle purchase. Feel free to lend opinions, everyone
else
> > has :-)
> >
>
> I won't recommend a tire/gear combo for you, but I'll give you my $.02 on
> the rifle. The .30-06 is about the most versatile caliber out there, and
can
> be loaded for anything from varmints to moose. The 7mm Mag is more than
> adequate for the big game, but it lacks the versatility of the 06. Many
> people hunt elk with a .270, and a well placed shot will take down an elk
no
> problem. There is also a .300 Winchester Mag and .338 Winchester Mag that
> will do the job. All in all, if I didn't have a gun and wanted the most
> versatile gun, I'd choose the .30-06. If you can get a deal on that
> Weatherby though, I would snag that in a heartbeat because it will do the
> job nicely as well.
>
> Chris
>
>

Re: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

How about this one bill? Scroll down slowly:

http://www.refugeforums.com/refuge/s...hreadid=206329
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http://hometown.aol.com/ebmvi/MyTJindex.html
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Re: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

How about this one bill? Scroll down slowly:

http://www.refugeforums.com/refuge/s...hreadid=206329
83 CJ 8, a work in progress
http://hometown.aol.com/ebmvi/MyTJindex.html
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Re: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

How about this one bill? Scroll down slowly:

http://www.refugeforums.com/refuge/s...hreadid=206329
83 CJ 8, a work in progress
http://hometown.aol.com/ebmvi/MyTJindex.html
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Re: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

LOL.

Evan wrote:
>
> How about this one bill? Scroll down slowly:
>
> http://www.refugeforums.com/refuge/s...hreadid=206329
> 83 CJ 8, a work in progress
> http://hometown.aol.com/ebmvi/MyTJindex.html
> Take out the "XXX" to e-mail me

Re: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

LOL.

Evan wrote:
>
> How about this one bill? Scroll down slowly:
>
> http://www.refugeforums.com/refuge/s...hreadid=206329
> 83 CJ 8, a work in progress
> http://hometown.aol.com/ebmvi/MyTJindex.html
> Take out the "XXX" to e-mail me

Re: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

LOL.

Evan wrote:
>
> How about this one bill? Scroll down slowly:
>
> http://www.refugeforums.com/refuge/s...hreadid=206329
> 83 CJ 8, a work in progress
> http://hometown.aol.com/ebmvi/MyTJindex.html
> Take out the "XXX" to e-mail me

Re: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote
> > All in all, if I didn't have a gun and wanted the most versatile gun,
I'd
> choose the .30-06.
>
> Yeah, I'm pretty much down to deciding between .30-06 or 7mm Rem Mag. Elk
> is my main desire, but I won't rule out wanting to hunt deer or antelope
> someday.
>
> > If you can get a deal on that Weatherby though, I would snag that in a
> heartbeat because it will
> > do the job nicely as well.
>
> I can get the Weatherby with a 3x9 Leupold scope and Burris one piece
mounts
> for $450, or I can get his Remmington 700 BDL .30-06 with the same
> scope/mount combo for the same price.
>
> A brand new Weatherby Vanguard sells for $389 + plus approx $40? for those
> mounts, and $199 for the same scope, + about $49 (tax) = $677 brand new
> Savings of about $227 for buying slightly used.

Easy ... drop $900 and get both. ;-)

If I owned one hunting rifle, it would be a 30.06. If I owned two, it would
be a .270 and a 300 Mag.

--
- Jeff
- ........................ then again, what do I know.

Re: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote
> > All in all, if I didn't have a gun and wanted the most versatile gun,
I'd
> choose the .30-06.
>
> Yeah, I'm pretty much down to deciding between .30-06 or 7mm Rem Mag. Elk
> is my main desire, but I won't rule out wanting to hunt deer or antelope
> someday.
>
> > If you can get a deal on that Weatherby though, I would snag that in a
> heartbeat because it will
> > do the job nicely as well.
>
> I can get the Weatherby with a 3x9 Leupold scope and Burris one piece
mounts
> for $450, or I can get his Remmington 700 BDL .30-06 with the same
> scope/mount combo for the same price.
>
> A brand new Weatherby Vanguard sells for $389 + plus approx $40? for those
> mounts, and $199 for the same scope, + about $49 (tax) = $677 brand new
> Savings of about $227 for buying slightly used.

Easy ... drop $900 and get both. ;-)

If I owned one hunting rifle, it would be a 30.06. If I owned two, it would
be a .270 and a 300 Mag.

--
- Jeff
- ........................ then again, what do I know.

Re: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 

"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote
> > All in all, if I didn't have a gun and wanted the most versatile gun,
I'd
> choose the .30-06.
>
> Yeah, I'm pretty much down to deciding between .30-06 or 7mm Rem Mag. Elk
> is my main desire, but I won't rule out wanting to hunt deer or antelope
> someday.
>
> > If you can get a deal on that Weatherby though, I would snag that in a
> heartbeat because it will
> > do the job nicely as well.
>
> I can get the Weatherby with a 3x9 Leupold scope and Burris one piece
mounts
> for $450, or I can get his Remmington 700 BDL .30-06 with the same
> scope/mount combo for the same price.
>
> A brand new Weatherby Vanguard sells for $389 + plus approx $40? for those
> mounts, and $199 for the same scope, + about $49 (tax) = $677 brand new
> Savings of about $227 for buying slightly used.

Easy ... drop $900 and get both. ;-)

If I owned one hunting rifle, it would be a 30.06. If I owned two, it would
be a .270 and a 300 Mag.

--
- Jeff
- ........................ then again, what do I know.