OT -- How to empty a strut
11-07-2003, 02:30 PM
#11
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Re: OT -- How to empty a strut
Hi Earle,
I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is a
Japanese car.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe this is
> not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I haven't
> worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that struts can be
> rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of those. I
> > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as 'dead'.
> >
> > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A chunk of
> > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> >
> > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part. The
> > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake master
> > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or less....
> >
> > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing apart from
> > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a spring
> > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > springs?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > CRWLR wrote:
> > >
> > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and they
> > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current
> struts
> > > are not cartridge type units.
> > >
> > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
> cylinder
> > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and pulled
> > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from the
> top of
> > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining in
> the
> > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the way.
> I am
> > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
> alignment
> > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut
> over
> > > and pour the oil out.
> > >
> > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how can
> I
> > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a small
> > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the
> struts
> > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I have
> to
> > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must be
> > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled. If I
> must
> > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as easy
> as
> > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues to
> deal
> > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is a
Japanese car.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe this is
> not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I haven't
> worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that struts can be
> rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of those. I
> > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as 'dead'.
> >
> > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A chunk of
> > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> >
> > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part. The
> > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake master
> > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or less....
> >
> > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing apart from
> > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a spring
> > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > springs?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > CRWLR wrote:
> > >
> > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and they
> > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current
> struts
> > > are not cartridge type units.
> > >
> > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
> cylinder
> > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and pulled
> > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from the
> top of
> > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining in
> the
> > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the way.
> I am
> > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
> alignment
> > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut
> over
> > > and pour the oil out.
> > >
> > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how can
> I
> > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a small
> > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the
> struts
> > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I have
> to
> > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must be
> > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled. If I
> must
> > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as easy
> as
> > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues to
> deal
> > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
11-07-2003, 02:30 PM
#12
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Posts: n/a
Re: OT -- How to empty a strut
Hi Earle,
I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is a
Japanese car.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe this is
> not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I haven't
> worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that struts can be
> rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of those. I
> > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as 'dead'.
> >
> > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A chunk of
> > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> >
> > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part. The
> > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake master
> > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or less....
> >
> > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing apart from
> > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a spring
> > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > springs?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > CRWLR wrote:
> > >
> > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and they
> > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current
> struts
> > > are not cartridge type units.
> > >
> > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
> cylinder
> > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and pulled
> > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from the
> top of
> > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining in
> the
> > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the way.
> I am
> > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
> alignment
> > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut
> over
> > > and pour the oil out.
> > >
> > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how can
> I
> > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a small
> > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the
> struts
> > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I have
> to
> > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must be
> > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled. If I
> must
> > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as easy
> as
> > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues to
> deal
> > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is a
Japanese car.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe this is
> not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I haven't
> worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that struts can be
> rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of those. I
> > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as 'dead'.
> >
> > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A chunk of
> > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> >
> > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part. The
> > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake master
> > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or less....
> >
> > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing apart from
> > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a spring
> > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > springs?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > CRWLR wrote:
> > >
> > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and they
> > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current
> struts
> > > are not cartridge type units.
> > >
> > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
> cylinder
> > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and pulled
> > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from the
> top of
> > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining in
> the
> > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the way.
> I am
> > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
> alignment
> > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut
> over
> > > and pour the oil out.
> > >
> > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how can
> I
> > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a small
> > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the
> struts
> > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I have
> to
> > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must be
> > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled. If I
> must
> > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as easy
> as
> > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues to
> deal
> > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
11-07-2003, 02:30 PM
#13
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Re: OT -- How to empty a strut
Hi Earle,
I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is a
Japanese car.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe this is
> not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I haven't
> worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that struts can be
> rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of those. I
> > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as 'dead'.
> >
> > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A chunk of
> > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> >
> > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part. The
> > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake master
> > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or less....
> >
> > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing apart from
> > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a spring
> > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > springs?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > CRWLR wrote:
> > >
> > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and they
> > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current
> struts
> > > are not cartridge type units.
> > >
> > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
> cylinder
> > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and pulled
> > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from the
> top of
> > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining in
> the
> > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the way.
> I am
> > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
> alignment
> > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut
> over
> > > and pour the oil out.
> > >
> > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how can
> I
> > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a small
> > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the
> struts
> > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I have
> to
> > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must be
> > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled. If I
> must
> > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as easy
> as
> > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues to
> deal
> > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is a
Japanese car.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe this is
> not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I haven't
> worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that struts can be
> rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of those. I
> > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as 'dead'.
> >
> > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A chunk of
> > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> >
> > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part. The
> > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake master
> > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or less....
> >
> > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing apart from
> > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a spring
> > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > springs?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > CRWLR wrote:
> > >
> > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and they
> > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current
> struts
> > > are not cartridge type units.
> > >
> > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
> cylinder
> > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and pulled
> > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from the
> top of
> > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining in
> the
> > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the way.
> I am
> > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
> alignment
> > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut
> over
> > > and pour the oil out.
> > >
> > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how can
> I
> > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a small
> > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the
> struts
> > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I have
> to
> > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must be
> > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled. If I
> must
> > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as easy
> as
> > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues to
> deal
> > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
11-07-2003, 03:28 PM
#14
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Posts: n/a
Re: OT -- How to empty a strut
Me too. I went to get new shocks or struts or whatever it takes, and I got
some cartridges. They seem to fit inside the empty case, except that I can't
get past all of the oil. If I pull the struts clear off the car, then the
oil can be poured out and the cartridges will slide right in, I think.
It appears to me that I am making this job more difficult than it needs to
be by attempting to do it without disconnecting the parts that maintain the
alignment.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FABF2C1.9ADEF320@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is a
> Japanese car.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe this
is
> > not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I
haven't
> > worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that struts
can be
> > rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of those.
I
> > > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as 'dead'.
> > >
> > > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A chunk
of
> > > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> > >
> > > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part. The
> > > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake
master
> > > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or less....
> > >
> > > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing apart
from
> > > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a spring
> > > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > > springs?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > CRWLR wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> > > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and
they
> > > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current
> > struts
> > > > are not cartridge type units.
> > > >
> > > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
> > cylinder
> > > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and
pulled
> > > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from
the
> > top of
> > > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining
in
> > the
> > > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the
way.
> > I am
> > > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
> > alignment
> > > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut
> > over
> > > > and pour the oil out.
> > > >
> > > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how
can
> > I
> > > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a
small
> > > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the
> > struts
> > > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I
have
> > to
> > > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must
be
> > > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled.
If I
> > must
> > > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as
easy
> > as
> > > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues
to
> > deal
> > > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
some cartridges. They seem to fit inside the empty case, except that I can't
get past all of the oil. If I pull the struts clear off the car, then the
oil can be poured out and the cartridges will slide right in, I think.
It appears to me that I am making this job more difficult than it needs to
be by attempting to do it without disconnecting the parts that maintain the
alignment.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FABF2C1.9ADEF320@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is a
> Japanese car.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe this
is
> > not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I
haven't
> > worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that struts
can be
> > rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of those.
I
> > > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as 'dead'.
> > >
> > > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A chunk
of
> > > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> > >
> > > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part. The
> > > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake
master
> > > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or less....
> > >
> > > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing apart
from
> > > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a spring
> > > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > > springs?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > CRWLR wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> > > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and
they
> > > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current
> > struts
> > > > are not cartridge type units.
> > > >
> > > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
> > cylinder
> > > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and
pulled
> > > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from
the
> > top of
> > > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining
in
> > the
> > > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the
way.
> > I am
> > > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
> > alignment
> > > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut
> > over
> > > > and pour the oil out.
> > > >
> > > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how
can
> > I
> > > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a
small
> > > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the
> > struts
> > > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I
have
> > to
> > > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must
be
> > > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled.
If I
> > must
> > > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as
easy
> > as
> > > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues
to
> > deal
> > > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
11-07-2003, 03:28 PM
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT -- How to empty a strut
Me too. I went to get new shocks or struts or whatever it takes, and I got
some cartridges. They seem to fit inside the empty case, except that I can't
get past all of the oil. If I pull the struts clear off the car, then the
oil can be poured out and the cartridges will slide right in, I think.
It appears to me that I am making this job more difficult than it needs to
be by attempting to do it without disconnecting the parts that maintain the
alignment.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FABF2C1.9ADEF320@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is a
> Japanese car.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe this
is
> > not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I
haven't
> > worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that struts
can be
> > rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of those.
I
> > > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as 'dead'.
> > >
> > > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A chunk
of
> > > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> > >
> > > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part. The
> > > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake
master
> > > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or less....
> > >
> > > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing apart
from
> > > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a spring
> > > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > > springs?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > CRWLR wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> > > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and
they
> > > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current
> > struts
> > > > are not cartridge type units.
> > > >
> > > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
> > cylinder
> > > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and
pulled
> > > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from
the
> > top of
> > > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining
in
> > the
> > > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the
way.
> > I am
> > > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
> > alignment
> > > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut
> > over
> > > > and pour the oil out.
> > > >
> > > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how
can
> > I
> > > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a
small
> > > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the
> > struts
> > > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I
have
> > to
> > > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must
be
> > > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled.
If I
> > must
> > > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as
easy
> > as
> > > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues
to
> > deal
> > > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
some cartridges. They seem to fit inside the empty case, except that I can't
get past all of the oil. If I pull the struts clear off the car, then the
oil can be poured out and the cartridges will slide right in, I think.
It appears to me that I am making this job more difficult than it needs to
be by attempting to do it without disconnecting the parts that maintain the
alignment.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FABF2C1.9ADEF320@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is a
> Japanese car.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe this
is
> > not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I
haven't
> > worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that struts
can be
> > rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of those.
I
> > > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as 'dead'.
> > >
> > > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A chunk
of
> > > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> > >
> > > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part. The
> > > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake
master
> > > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or less....
> > >
> > > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing apart
from
> > > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a spring
> > > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > > springs?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > CRWLR wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> > > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and
they
> > > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current
> > struts
> > > > are not cartridge type units.
> > > >
> > > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
> > cylinder
> > > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and
pulled
> > > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from
the
> > top of
> > > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining
in
> > the
> > > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the
way.
> > I am
> > > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
> > alignment
> > > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut
> > over
> > > > and pour the oil out.
> > > >
> > > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how
can
> > I
> > > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a
small
> > > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the
> > struts
> > > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I
have
> > to
> > > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must
be
> > > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled.
If I
> > must
> > > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as
easy
> > as
> > > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues
to
> > deal
> > > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
11-07-2003, 03:28 PM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT -- How to empty a strut
Me too. I went to get new shocks or struts or whatever it takes, and I got
some cartridges. They seem to fit inside the empty case, except that I can't
get past all of the oil. If I pull the struts clear off the car, then the
oil can be poured out and the cartridges will slide right in, I think.
It appears to me that I am making this job more difficult than it needs to
be by attempting to do it without disconnecting the parts that maintain the
alignment.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FABF2C1.9ADEF320@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is a
> Japanese car.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe this
is
> > not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I
haven't
> > worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that struts
can be
> > rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of those.
I
> > > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as 'dead'.
> > >
> > > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A chunk
of
> > > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> > >
> > > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part. The
> > > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake
master
> > > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or less....
> > >
> > > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing apart
from
> > > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a spring
> > > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > > springs?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > CRWLR wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> > > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and
they
> > > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current
> > struts
> > > > are not cartridge type units.
> > > >
> > > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
> > cylinder
> > > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and
pulled
> > > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from
the
> > top of
> > > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining
in
> > the
> > > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the
way.
> > I am
> > > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
> > alignment
> > > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut
> > over
> > > > and pour the oil out.
> > > >
> > > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how
can
> > I
> > > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a
small
> > > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the
> > struts
> > > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I
have
> > to
> > > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must
be
> > > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled.
If I
> > must
> > > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as
easy
> > as
> > > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues
to
> > deal
> > > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
some cartridges. They seem to fit inside the empty case, except that I can't
get past all of the oil. If I pull the struts clear off the car, then the
oil can be poured out and the cartridges will slide right in, I think.
It appears to me that I am making this job more difficult than it needs to
be by attempting to do it without disconnecting the parts that maintain the
alignment.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FABF2C1.9ADEF320@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is a
> Japanese car.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe this
is
> > not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I
haven't
> > worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that struts
can be
> > rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of those.
I
> > > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as 'dead'.
> > >
> > > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A chunk
of
> > > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> > >
> > > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part. The
> > > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake
master
> > > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or less....
> > >
> > > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing apart
from
> > > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a spring
> > > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > > springs?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > CRWLR wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> > > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and
they
> > > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current
> > struts
> > > > are not cartridge type units.
> > > >
> > > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
> > cylinder
> > > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and
pulled
> > > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from
the
> > top of
> > > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining
in
> > the
> > > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the
way.
> > I am
> > > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
> > alignment
> > > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut
> > over
> > > > and pour the oil out.
> > > >
> > > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how
can
> > I
> > > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a
small
> > > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the
> > struts
> > > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I
have
> > to
> > > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must
be
> > > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled.
If I
> > must
> > > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as
easy
> > as
> > > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues
to
> > deal
> > > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
11-07-2003, 03:58 PM
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT -- How to empty a strut
Use your Mexican credit card on it. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Me too. I went to get new shocks or struts or whatever it takes, and I got
> some cartridges. They seem to fit inside the empty case, except that I can't
> get past all of the oil. If I pull the struts clear off the car, then the
> oil can be poured out and the cartridges will slide right in, I think.
>
> It appears to me that I am making this job more difficult than it needs to
> be by attempting to do it without disconnecting the parts that maintain the
> alignment.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FABF2C1.9ADEF320@***.net...
> > Hi Earle,
> > I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is a
> > Japanese car.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe this
> is
> > > not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I
> haven't
> > > worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that struts
> can be
> > > rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of those.
> I
> > > > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as 'dead'.
> > > >
> > > > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A chunk
> of
> > > > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> > > >
> > > > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > > > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part. The
> > > > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake
> master
> > > > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or less....
> > > >
> > > > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing apart
> from
> > > > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a spring
> > > > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > > > springs?
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > CRWLR wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> > > > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and
> they
> > > > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current
> > > struts
> > > > > are not cartridge type units.
> > > > >
> > > > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
> > > cylinder
> > > > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and
> pulled
> > > > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from
> the
> > > top of
> > > > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining
> in
> > > the
> > > > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the
> way.
> > > I am
> > > > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
> > > alignment
> > > > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut
> > > over
> > > > > and pour the oil out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how
> can
> > > I
> > > > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a
> small
> > > > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the
> > > struts
> > > > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I
> have
> > > to
> > > > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must
> be
> > > > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled.
> If I
> > > must
> > > > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as
> easy
> > > as
> > > > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues
> to
> > > deal
> > > > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Me too. I went to get new shocks or struts or whatever it takes, and I got
> some cartridges. They seem to fit inside the empty case, except that I can't
> get past all of the oil. If I pull the struts clear off the car, then the
> oil can be poured out and the cartridges will slide right in, I think.
>
> It appears to me that I am making this job more difficult than it needs to
> be by attempting to do it without disconnecting the parts that maintain the
> alignment.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FABF2C1.9ADEF320@***.net...
> > Hi Earle,
> > I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is a
> > Japanese car.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe this
> is
> > > not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I
> haven't
> > > worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that struts
> can be
> > > rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of those.
> I
> > > > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as 'dead'.
> > > >
> > > > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A chunk
> of
> > > > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> > > >
> > > > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > > > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part. The
> > > > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake
> master
> > > > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or less....
> > > >
> > > > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing apart
> from
> > > > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a spring
> > > > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > > > springs?
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > CRWLR wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> > > > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and
> they
> > > > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current
> > > struts
> > > > > are not cartridge type units.
> > > > >
> > > > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
> > > cylinder
> > > > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and
> pulled
> > > > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from
> the
> > > top of
> > > > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining
> in
> > > the
> > > > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the
> way.
> > > I am
> > > > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
> > > alignment
> > > > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut
> > > over
> > > > > and pour the oil out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how
> can
> > > I
> > > > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a
> small
> > > > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the
> > > struts
> > > > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I
> have
> > > to
> > > > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must
> be
> > > > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled.
> If I
> > > must
> > > > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as
> easy
> > > as
> > > > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues
> to
> > > deal
> > > > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
11-07-2003, 03:58 PM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT -- How to empty a strut
Use your Mexican credit card on it. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Me too. I went to get new shocks or struts or whatever it takes, and I got
> some cartridges. They seem to fit inside the empty case, except that I can't
> get past all of the oil. If I pull the struts clear off the car, then the
> oil can be poured out and the cartridges will slide right in, I think.
>
> It appears to me that I am making this job more difficult than it needs to
> be by attempting to do it without disconnecting the parts that maintain the
> alignment.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FABF2C1.9ADEF320@***.net...
> > Hi Earle,
> > I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is a
> > Japanese car.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe this
> is
> > > not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I
> haven't
> > > worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that struts
> can be
> > > rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of those.
> I
> > > > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as 'dead'.
> > > >
> > > > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A chunk
> of
> > > > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> > > >
> > > > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > > > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part. The
> > > > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake
> master
> > > > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or less....
> > > >
> > > > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing apart
> from
> > > > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a spring
> > > > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > > > springs?
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > CRWLR wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> > > > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and
> they
> > > > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current
> > > struts
> > > > > are not cartridge type units.
> > > > >
> > > > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
> > > cylinder
> > > > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and
> pulled
> > > > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from
> the
> > > top of
> > > > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining
> in
> > > the
> > > > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the
> way.
> > > I am
> > > > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
> > > alignment
> > > > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut
> > > over
> > > > > and pour the oil out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how
> can
> > > I
> > > > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a
> small
> > > > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the
> > > struts
> > > > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I
> have
> > > to
> > > > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must
> be
> > > > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled.
> If I
> > > must
> > > > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as
> easy
> > > as
> > > > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues
> to
> > > deal
> > > > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Me too. I went to get new shocks or struts or whatever it takes, and I got
> some cartridges. They seem to fit inside the empty case, except that I can't
> get past all of the oil. If I pull the struts clear off the car, then the
> oil can be poured out and the cartridges will slide right in, I think.
>
> It appears to me that I am making this job more difficult than it needs to
> be by attempting to do it without disconnecting the parts that maintain the
> alignment.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FABF2C1.9ADEF320@***.net...
> > Hi Earle,
> > I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is a
> > Japanese car.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe this
> is
> > > not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I
> haven't
> > > worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that struts
> can be
> > > rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of those.
> I
> > > > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as 'dead'.
> > > >
> > > > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A chunk
> of
> > > > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> > > >
> > > > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > > > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part. The
> > > > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake
> master
> > > > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or less....
> > > >
> > > > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing apart
> from
> > > > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a spring
> > > > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > > > springs?
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > CRWLR wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> > > > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and
> they
> > > > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current
> > > struts
> > > > > are not cartridge type units.
> > > > >
> > > > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
> > > cylinder
> > > > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and
> pulled
> > > > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from
> the
> > > top of
> > > > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining
> in
> > > the
> > > > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the
> way.
> > > I am
> > > > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
> > > alignment
> > > > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut
> > > over
> > > > > and pour the oil out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how
> can
> > > I
> > > > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a
> small
> > > > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the
> > > struts
> > > > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I
> have
> > > to
> > > > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must
> be
> > > > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled.
> If I
> > > must
> > > > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as
> easy
> > > as
> > > > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues
> to
> > > deal
> > > > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
11-07-2003, 03:58 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT -- How to empty a strut
Use your Mexican credit card on it. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Me too. I went to get new shocks or struts or whatever it takes, and I got
> some cartridges. They seem to fit inside the empty case, except that I can't
> get past all of the oil. If I pull the struts clear off the car, then the
> oil can be poured out and the cartridges will slide right in, I think.
>
> It appears to me that I am making this job more difficult than it needs to
> be by attempting to do it without disconnecting the parts that maintain the
> alignment.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FABF2C1.9ADEF320@***.net...
> > Hi Earle,
> > I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is a
> > Japanese car.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe this
> is
> > > not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I
> haven't
> > > worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that struts
> can be
> > > rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of those.
> I
> > > > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as 'dead'.
> > > >
> > > > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A chunk
> of
> > > > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> > > >
> > > > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > > > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part. The
> > > > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake
> master
> > > > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or less....
> > > >
> > > > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing apart
> from
> > > > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a spring
> > > > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > > > springs?
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > CRWLR wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> > > > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and
> they
> > > > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current
> > > struts
> > > > > are not cartridge type units.
> > > > >
> > > > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
> > > cylinder
> > > > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and
> pulled
> > > > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from
> the
> > > top of
> > > > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining
> in
> > > the
> > > > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the
> way.
> > > I am
> > > > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
> > > alignment
> > > > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut
> > > over
> > > > > and pour the oil out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how
> can
> > > I
> > > > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a
> small
> > > > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the
> > > struts
> > > > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I
> have
> > > to
> > > > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must
> be
> > > > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled.
> If I
> > > must
> > > > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as
> easy
> > > as
> > > > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues
> to
> > > deal
> > > > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Me too. I went to get new shocks or struts or whatever it takes, and I got
> some cartridges. They seem to fit inside the empty case, except that I can't
> get past all of the oil. If I pull the struts clear off the car, then the
> oil can be poured out and the cartridges will slide right in, I think.
>
> It appears to me that I am making this job more difficult than it needs to
> be by attempting to do it without disconnecting the parts that maintain the
> alignment.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FABF2C1.9ADEF320@***.net...
> > Hi Earle,
> > I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is a
> > Japanese car.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe this
> is
> > > not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I
> haven't
> > > worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that struts
> can be
> > > rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of those.
> I
> > > > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as 'dead'.
> > > >
> > > > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A chunk
> of
> > > > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> > > >
> > > > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > > > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part. The
> > > > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake
> master
> > > > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or less....
> > > >
> > > > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing apart
> from
> > > > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a spring
> > > > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > > > springs?
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > CRWLR wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut rear
> > > > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house, and
> they
> > > > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the current
> > > struts
> > > > > are not cartridge type units.
> > > > >
> > > > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There is a
> > > cylinder
> > > > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and
> pulled
> > > > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out from
> the
> > > top of
> > > > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk remaining
> in
> > > the
> > > > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in the
> way.
> > > I am
> > > > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the suspension
> > > alignment
> > > > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the strut
> > > over
> > > > > and pour the oil out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going, how
> can
> > > I
> > > > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill a
> small
> > > > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get the
> > > struts
> > > > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or do I
> have
> > > to
> > > > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts must
> be
> > > > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then reassembled.
> If I
> > > must
> > > > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is as
> easy
> > > as
> > > > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment issues
> to
> > > deal
> > > > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
11-07-2003, 05:29 PM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT -- How to empty a strut
Mexican Credit Card???
Won't that just make my alignment worse?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FAC0792.FC3F33AA@***.net...
> Use your Mexican credit card on it. ;-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > Me too. I went to get new shocks or struts or whatever it takes, and I
got
> > some cartridges. They seem to fit inside the empty case, except that I
can't
> > get past all of the oil. If I pull the struts clear off the car, then
the
> > oil can be poured out and the cartridges will slide right in, I think.
> >
> > It appears to me that I am making this job more difficult than it needs
to
> > be by attempting to do it without disconnecting the parts that maintain
the
> > alignment.
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FABF2C1.9ADEF320@***.net...
> > > Hi Earle,
> > > I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is
a
> > > Japanese car.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Earle Horton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe
this
> > is
> > > > not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I
> > haven't
> > > > worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that
struts
> > can be
> > > > rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of
those.
> > I
> > > > > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as
'dead'.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A
chunk
> > of
> > > > > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> > > > >
> > > > > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > > > > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part.
The
> > > > > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake
> > master
> > > > > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or
less....
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing
apart
> > from
> > > > > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a
spring
> > > > > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > > > > springs?
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > CRWLR wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut
rear
> > > > > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house,
and
> > they
> > > > > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the
current
> > > > struts
> > > > > > are not cartridge type units.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There
is a
> > > > cylinder
> > > > > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and
> > pulled
> > > > > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out
from
> > the
> > > > top of
> > > > > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk
remaining
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in
the
> > way.
> > > > I am
> > > > > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the
suspension
> > > > alignment
> > > > > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the
strut
> > > > over
> > > > > > and pour the oil out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going,
how
> > can
> > > > I
> > > > > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill
a
> > small
> > > > > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get
the
> > > > struts
> > > > > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or
do I
> > have
> > > > to
> > > > > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts
must
> > be
> > > > > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then
reassembled.
> > If I
> > > > must
> > > > > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is
as
> > easy
> > > > as
> > > > > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment
issues
> > to
> > > > deal
> > > > > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.
Won't that just make my alignment worse?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FAC0792.FC3F33AA@***.net...
> Use your Mexican credit card on it. ;-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > Me too. I went to get new shocks or struts or whatever it takes, and I
got
> > some cartridges. They seem to fit inside the empty case, except that I
can't
> > get past all of the oil. If I pull the struts clear off the car, then
the
> > oil can be poured out and the cartridges will slide right in, I think.
> >
> > It appears to me that I am making this job more difficult than it needs
to
> > be by attempting to do it without disconnecting the parts that maintain
the
> > alignment.
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FABF2C1.9ADEF320@***.net...
> > > Hi Earle,
> > > I've never heard of it being done any other way, but then this is
a
> > > Japanese car.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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> > >
> > > Earle Horton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have always replaced struts using the entire assembly. OK, maybe
this
> > is
> > > > not the cheapest way to go but you don't see people coming back. I
> > haven't
> > > > worked on cars for a living for a while, and I have heard that
struts
> > can be
> > > > rebuilt, but I don't believe it.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:3FABD7C1.EF73707B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > Well, I have never heard of anyone actually rebuilding one of
those.
> > I
> > > > > guess when I see them dead, the suckers are rotted as well as
'dead'.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would try a rag or old sponge to get the oil out I think. A
chunk
> > of
> > > > > sponge works pretty good at soaking up oil.
> > > > >
> > > > > Something about reusing the tubes just doesn't sit right with me
> > > > > though. I am thinking of wear and micro grooves in the old part.
The
> > > > > new pistons might wear out fast, something like a clutch or brake
> > master
> > > > > rebuild. They are a 50/50 deal if they die in 6 months or
less....
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know for sure, but I would think if you got the thing
apart
> > from
> > > > > the top, it should go back together that way. Do you have a
spring
> > > > > compressor, or is that the 'catch', you used a jack to unload the
> > > > > springs?
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > CRWLR wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I recently bought a Nissan Maxima wagon with a MacPherson Strut
rear
> > > > > > suspension. The struts are toast, so I went to the parts house,
and
> > they
> > > > > > sent me home with a pair of cartridges. The problem is, the
current
> > > > struts
> > > > > > are not cartridge type units.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I removed the spring, and got the internals to come out. There
is a
> > > > cylinder
> > > > > > with a piston, and this is filled with oil that gets pused and
> > pulled
> > > > > > through a metering hole. My problem is, I took the stuff out
from
> > the
> > > > top of
> > > > > > the shock body, and there is a considerable amount of oilk
remaining
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > bottom. The new cartridge will not go in because the oil is in
the
> > way.
> > > > I am
> > > > > > resisting removing the bolts that hold the strut to the
suspension
> > > > alignment
> > > > > > parts, but if I caved in and did this, I could simply turn the
strut
> > > > over
> > > > > > and pour the oil out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Assuming I can get the spring back on going the way I am going,
how
> > can
> > > > I
> > > > > > get the remainder of the oil out? I am thinking that I can drill
a
> > small
> > > > > > hole in the bottom and let it drain. My question is, can I get
the
> > > > struts
> > > > > > back together while they are physically mounted in the car, or
do I
> > have
> > > > to
> > > > > > remove them completely? It is starting to look like the struts
must
> > be
> > > > > > removed so that the springs can be taken off and then
reassembled.
> > If I
> > > > must
> > > > > > remove the struts completely, then draining the remaining oil is
as
> > easy
> > > > as
> > > > > > turning the strut body upside down, but then I have alignment
issues
> > to
> > > > deal
> > > > > > with later that I was hoping to avoid.