OT: Hollywood vs Hollywonk heros
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<d93c2$42d4a7c6$4831337f$14077@FUSE.NET>, "BillyRay"
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>So how do you feel the real heroes of the silver screen acted when compared
>to the hollywonks today who spray out anti-American drivel as they bite the
>hand that feeds them?
you seem to have left out George Jessel, General.
Get back to us about war when we aren't attacking a bunch of people
for no apparent reason other than we feel the guy insulted our dad.
How is it our own President served his country during the war--for get
the stars-- you know, the one he <didn't> start, back in the sixties,
when he had the opportunity to serve his country, but chose to work on
someone's campaign instead...?
<d93c2$42d4a7c6$4831337f$14077@FUSE.NET>, "BillyRay"
<jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> graced the world with this thought:
>So how do you feel the real heroes of the silver screen acted when compared
>to the hollywonks today who spray out anti-American drivel as they bite the
>hand that feeds them?
you seem to have left out George Jessel, General.
Get back to us about war when we aren't attacking a bunch of people
for no apparent reason other than we feel the guy insulted our dad.
How is it our own President served his country during the war--for get
the stars-- you know, the one he <didn't> start, back in the sixties,
when he had the opportunity to serve his country, but chose to work on
someone's campaign instead...?
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"BillyRay" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message news:6376a$42d53291$4831337f$3513@FUSE.NET...
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>It is curious that now, even after we have heard all the evidence
>that Saddam Hussein has chemical, biological and is very close to obtaining
>nuclear weapons, their is no cry from this group for HIM to disarm.
Yes... who was smarter?
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"BillyRay" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message news:6376a$42d53291$4831337f$3513@FUSE.NET...
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>It is curious that now, even after we have heard all the evidence
>that Saddam Hussein has chemical, biological and is very close to obtaining
>nuclear weapons, their is no cry from this group for HIM to disarm.
Yes... who was smarter?
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Steve
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"BillyRay" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message news:6376a$42d53291$4831337f$3513@FUSE.NET...
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>It is curious that now, even after we have heard all the evidence
>that Saddam Hussein has chemical, biological and is very close to obtaining
>nuclear weapons, their is no cry from this group for HIM to disarm.
Yes... who was smarter?
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Steve
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"BillyRay" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message news:6376a$42d53291$4831337f$3513@FUSE.NET...
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>It is curious that now, even after we have heard all the evidence
>that Saddam Hussein has chemical, biological and is very close to obtaining
>nuclear weapons, their is no cry from this group for HIM to disarm.
Yes... who was smarter?
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Steve
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"BillyRay" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message news:d93c2$42d4a7c6$4831337f$14077@FUSE.NET...
>In contrast to the ideals, opinions and feelings of today's "Hollywonk" the
>real actors of yester-year loved the United States.
Alec Guiness, Donald Plesance, David Niven?
Of course! They enlisted in order to defend
the United States! Even though they served
for Great Britian, as citizens of same... they
*really* did it for the good old U.S. of A.
http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/heros.htm
Yes, we all remember WWII... very much worth
fighting. Extremely very much *more* worth
fighting... nobody had to *lie* to get us to go.
And we actually retaliated against the party that
attacked us! And we got 'em! That's called
*keeping your eye on the ball*.
Now let's read the List of Infamy...
George Will, Pat Buchannan, Bill O'Reilly, Wolfowitz,
Richard Perle, Bill Kristol, Rush Limbaugh, Phil Gramm,
Clarence Thomas, Newt Gingrich, Saxby Chambliss,
Bill Bennett, Ken Starr, Judd Gregg, John Ashcroft, Tom Delay...
---- Cheney... deferred. Chickenhawks, we call them.
Tell us a bedtime story about burning villages full
of women and children again, Billy.
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Steve
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Re: Hollywood vs Hollywonk heros
"BillyRay" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message news:d93c2$42d4a7c6$4831337f$14077@FUSE.NET...
>In contrast to the ideals, opinions and feelings of today's "Hollywonk" the
>real actors of yester-year loved the United States.
Alec Guiness, Donald Plesance, David Niven?
Of course! They enlisted in order to defend
the United States! Even though they served
for Great Britian, as citizens of same... they
*really* did it for the good old U.S. of A.
http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/heros.htm
Yes, we all remember WWII... very much worth
fighting. Extremely very much *more* worth
fighting... nobody had to *lie* to get us to go.
And we actually retaliated against the party that
attacked us! And we got 'em! That's called
*keeping your eye on the ball*.
Now let's read the List of Infamy...
George Will, Pat Buchannan, Bill O'Reilly, Wolfowitz,
Richard Perle, Bill Kristol, Rush Limbaugh, Phil Gramm,
Clarence Thomas, Newt Gingrich, Saxby Chambliss,
Bill Bennett, Ken Starr, Judd Gregg, John Ashcroft, Tom Delay...
---- Cheney... deferred. Chickenhawks, we call them.
Tell us a bedtime story about burning villages full
of women and children again, Billy.
__
Steve
..
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Re: Hollywood vs Hollywonk heros
"BillyRay" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message news:d93c2$42d4a7c6$4831337f$14077@FUSE.NET...
>In contrast to the ideals, opinions and feelings of today's "Hollywonk" the
>real actors of yester-year loved the United States.
Alec Guiness, Donald Plesance, David Niven?
Of course! They enlisted in order to defend
the United States! Even though they served
for Great Britian, as citizens of same... they
*really* did it for the good old U.S. of A.
http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/heros.htm
Yes, we all remember WWII... very much worth
fighting. Extremely very much *more* worth
fighting... nobody had to *lie* to get us to go.
And we actually retaliated against the party that
attacked us! And we got 'em! That's called
*keeping your eye on the ball*.
Now let's read the List of Infamy...
George Will, Pat Buchannan, Bill O'Reilly, Wolfowitz,
Richard Perle, Bill Kristol, Rush Limbaugh, Phil Gramm,
Clarence Thomas, Newt Gingrich, Saxby Chambliss,
Bill Bennett, Ken Starr, Judd Gregg, John Ashcroft, Tom Delay...
---- Cheney... deferred. Chickenhawks, we call them.
Tell us a bedtime story about burning villages full
of women and children again, Billy.
__
Steve
..
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Re: Hollywood vs Hollywonk heros
"BillyRay" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message news:d93c2$42d4a7c6$4831337f$14077@FUSE.NET...
>In contrast to the ideals, opinions and feelings of today's "Hollywonk" the
>real actors of yester-year loved the United States.
Alec Guiness, Donald Plesance, David Niven?
Of course! They enlisted in order to defend
the United States! Even though they served
for Great Britian, as citizens of same... they
*really* did it for the good old U.S. of A.
http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/heros.htm
Yes, we all remember WWII... very much worth
fighting. Extremely very much *more* worth
fighting... nobody had to *lie* to get us to go.
And we actually retaliated against the party that
attacked us! And we got 'em! That's called
*keeping your eye on the ball*.
Now let's read the List of Infamy...
George Will, Pat Buchannan, Bill O'Reilly, Wolfowitz,
Richard Perle, Bill Kristol, Rush Limbaugh, Phil Gramm,
Clarence Thomas, Newt Gingrich, Saxby Chambliss,
Bill Bennett, Ken Starr, Judd Gregg, John Ashcroft, Tom Delay...
---- Cheney... deferred. Chickenhawks, we call them.
Tell us a bedtime story about burning villages full
of women and children again, Billy.
__
Steve
..
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Re: Hollywood vs Hollywonk heros
Actually, Mr. Doohan (R.I.P.) landed on Juno beach in Normandy with the
Royal Canadian Artillery- (being Canadian and all.)
"BillyRay" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:d93c2$42d4a7c6$4831337f$14077@FUSE.NET...
> In contrast to the ideals, opinions and feelings of today's "Hollywonk"
> the real actors of yester-year loved the United States.
>
> They had both class and integrity. With the advent of World War II many of
> our actors went to fight rather than stand and rant against this country
> we all love.
>
> They gave up their wealth, position and fame to become service men &
> women, many as simple "enlisted men".
>
> This page lists but a few, but from this group of only 18 men came over 70
> medals in honor of their valor, spanning from Bronze Stars, Silver Stars,
> Distinguish Service Cross', Purple Hearts and one Congressional Medal of
> Honor.
>
> So remember; while the "Entertainers of 2004" have been in all of the news
> media lately I would like to remind the people of what the entertainers of
> 1943 were doing, (61 years ago).
>
> Most of these brave men have since passed on.
>
>
>
> Real Hollywood Heros
>
> Alec Guinness (Star Wars) operated a British Royal Navy landing craft on
> D-Day.
>
> James Doohan ("Scotty" on Star Trek) landed in Normandy with the U. S.
> Army on D-Day.
>
> Donald Pleasance (The Great Escape) really was an R. A. F. pilot who was
> shot down, held prisoner and tortured by the Germans.
>
> David Niven was a Sandhurst graduate and Lt. Colonel of the British
> Commandos in Normandy.
>
> James Stewart Entered the Army Air Force as a private and worked his way
> to the rank of Colonel.
>
> During World War II, Stewart served as a bomber pilot, his service record
> crediting him with leading more than 20 missions over Germany, and taking
> part in hundreds of air strikes during his tour of duty.
>
> Stewart earned the Air Medal, the Distinguished Flying Cross, France's
> Croix de Guerre, and 7 Battle Stars during World War II.
>
> In peace time, Stewart continued to be an active member of the Air Force
> as a reservist, reaching the rank of Brigadier General before retiring in
> the late 1950s.
>
> Clark Gable (Mega-Movie Star when war broke out) Although he was beyond
> the draft age at the time the U.S. entered WW II,
>
> Clark Gable enlisted as a private in the AAF on Aug. 12, 1942 at Los
> Angeles.
>
> He attended the Officers' CandidateSchool at Miami Beach, Fla. and
> graduated as a second lieutenant on Oct. 28, 1942.
>
> He then attended aerial gunnery school and in Feb. 1943 he was assigned to
> the 351st Bomb Group at Polebrook where flew operational missions over
> Europe in B-17s.
>
> Capt. Gable returned to the U.S. in Oct. 1943 and was relieved from active
> duty as a major on Jun. 12, 1944 at his own request, since he was over-age
> for combat.
>
> Charlton Heston was an Army Air Corps Sergeant in Kodiak.
>
> Earnest Borgnine was a U. S. Navy Gunners Mate 1935-1945.
>
> Charles Durning was a U. S. Army Ranger at Normandy earning a Silver Star
> and awarded the Purple Heart.
>
> Charles Bronson was a tail gunner in the Army Air Corps, more specifically
> on B-29s in the 20th Air Force out of Guam, Tinian, and Saipan
>
> George C. Scott was a decorated U. S. Marine.
>
> Eddie Albert (Green Acres TV) was awarded a Bronze Star for his heroic
> action as a U. S. Naval officer aiding Marines at the horrific battle on
> the island of Tarawa in the Pacific Nov. 1943.
>
> Brian Keith served as a U.S. Marine rear gunner in several actions against
> the Japanese on Rabal in the Pacific.
>
> Lee Marvin was a U.S. Marine on Saipan during the Marianas campaign when
> he was wounded earning the Purple Heart.
>
> John Russell: In 1942, he enlisted in the Marine Corps where he received a
> battlefield commission and was wounded and highly decorated for valor at
> Guadalcanal.
>
> Robert Ryan was a U. S. Marine who served with the O. S. S. in Yugoslavia.
>
> Tyrone Power (an established movie star when Pearl Harbor was bombed)
> joined the U.S. Marines, was a pilot flying supplies into, and wounded
> Marines out of, Iwo Jima and Okinawa.
>
> Audie Murphy, little 5'5" tall 110 pound guy from Texas who played cowboy
> parts?
>
> Most Decorated serviceman of WWII! and ear ned: Medal of Honor,
> Distinguished Service Cross, 2 Silver Star Medals, Legion of Merit, 2
> Bronze Star Medals with "V",?3 Purple Hearts, U.S. Army Outstanding
> Civilian Service Medal, Good Conduct Medal, 2 Distinguished Unit Emblems,
> American Campaign Medal, European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal
> with One Silver Star, Four Bronze Service Stars (representing nine
> campaigns) and one Bronze Arrowhead (representing assault landing at
> Sicily and Southern France) World War II Victory Medal Army of Occupation
> Medal with Germany Clasp, Armed Forces Reserve Medal, Combat Infantry
> Badge, Marksman Badge with Rifle Bar, Expert Badge with Bayonet Bar,
> French Fourragere in Colors of the Croix de Guerre, French Legion of
> Honor, Grade of Chevalier, French Croix de Guerre With Silver Star, French
> Croix de Guerre with Palm, Medal of Liberated France, Belgian Croix de
> Guerre 1940 Palm.
>
> So how do you feel the real heroes of the silver screen acted when
> compared to the hollywonks today who spray out anti-American drivel as
> they bite the hand that feeds them? Can you imagine these stars of
> yester-year saying they hate our flag, making anti-war speeches, marching
> in anti-American parades and saying they hate our president?
>
> I thought not, neither did I!
>
Royal Canadian Artillery- (being Canadian and all.)
"BillyRay" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:d93c2$42d4a7c6$4831337f$14077@FUSE.NET...
> In contrast to the ideals, opinions and feelings of today's "Hollywonk"
> the real actors of yester-year loved the United States.
>
> They had both class and integrity. With the advent of World War II many of
> our actors went to fight rather than stand and rant against this country
> we all love.
>
> They gave up their wealth, position and fame to become service men &
> women, many as simple "enlisted men".
>
> This page lists but a few, but from this group of only 18 men came over 70
> medals in honor of their valor, spanning from Bronze Stars, Silver Stars,
> Distinguish Service Cross', Purple Hearts and one Congressional Medal of
> Honor.
>
> So remember; while the "Entertainers of 2004" have been in all of the news
> media lately I would like to remind the people of what the entertainers of
> 1943 were doing, (61 years ago).
>
> Most of these brave men have since passed on.
>
>
>
> Real Hollywood Heros
>
> Alec Guinness (Star Wars) operated a British Royal Navy landing craft on
> D-Day.
>
> James Doohan ("Scotty" on Star Trek) landed in Normandy with the U. S.
> Army on D-Day.
>
> Donald Pleasance (The Great Escape) really was an R. A. F. pilot who was
> shot down, held prisoner and tortured by the Germans.
>
> David Niven was a Sandhurst graduate and Lt. Colonel of the British
> Commandos in Normandy.
>
> James Stewart Entered the Army Air Force as a private and worked his way
> to the rank of Colonel.
>
> During World War II, Stewart served as a bomber pilot, his service record
> crediting him with leading more than 20 missions over Germany, and taking
> part in hundreds of air strikes during his tour of duty.
>
> Stewart earned the Air Medal, the Distinguished Flying Cross, France's
> Croix de Guerre, and 7 Battle Stars during World War II.
>
> In peace time, Stewart continued to be an active member of the Air Force
> as a reservist, reaching the rank of Brigadier General before retiring in
> the late 1950s.
>
> Clark Gable (Mega-Movie Star when war broke out) Although he was beyond
> the draft age at the time the U.S. entered WW II,
>
> Clark Gable enlisted as a private in the AAF on Aug. 12, 1942 at Los
> Angeles.
>
> He attended the Officers' CandidateSchool at Miami Beach, Fla. and
> graduated as a second lieutenant on Oct. 28, 1942.
>
> He then attended aerial gunnery school and in Feb. 1943 he was assigned to
> the 351st Bomb Group at Polebrook where flew operational missions over
> Europe in B-17s.
>
> Capt. Gable returned to the U.S. in Oct. 1943 and was relieved from active
> duty as a major on Jun. 12, 1944 at his own request, since he was over-age
> for combat.
>
> Charlton Heston was an Army Air Corps Sergeant in Kodiak.
>
> Earnest Borgnine was a U. S. Navy Gunners Mate 1935-1945.
>
> Charles Durning was a U. S. Army Ranger at Normandy earning a Silver Star
> and awarded the Purple Heart.
>
> Charles Bronson was a tail gunner in the Army Air Corps, more specifically
> on B-29s in the 20th Air Force out of Guam, Tinian, and Saipan
>
> George C. Scott was a decorated U. S. Marine.
>
> Eddie Albert (Green Acres TV) was awarded a Bronze Star for his heroic
> action as a U. S. Naval officer aiding Marines at the horrific battle on
> the island of Tarawa in the Pacific Nov. 1943.
>
> Brian Keith served as a U.S. Marine rear gunner in several actions against
> the Japanese on Rabal in the Pacific.
>
> Lee Marvin was a U.S. Marine on Saipan during the Marianas campaign when
> he was wounded earning the Purple Heart.
>
> John Russell: In 1942, he enlisted in the Marine Corps where he received a
> battlefield commission and was wounded and highly decorated for valor at
> Guadalcanal.
>
> Robert Ryan was a U. S. Marine who served with the O. S. S. in Yugoslavia.
>
> Tyrone Power (an established movie star when Pearl Harbor was bombed)
> joined the U.S. Marines, was a pilot flying supplies into, and wounded
> Marines out of, Iwo Jima and Okinawa.
>
> Audie Murphy, little 5'5" tall 110 pound guy from Texas who played cowboy
> parts?
>
> Most Decorated serviceman of WWII! and ear ned: Medal of Honor,
> Distinguished Service Cross, 2 Silver Star Medals, Legion of Merit, 2
> Bronze Star Medals with "V",?3 Purple Hearts, U.S. Army Outstanding
> Civilian Service Medal, Good Conduct Medal, 2 Distinguished Unit Emblems,
> American Campaign Medal, European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal
> with One Silver Star, Four Bronze Service Stars (representing nine
> campaigns) and one Bronze Arrowhead (representing assault landing at
> Sicily and Southern France) World War II Victory Medal Army of Occupation
> Medal with Germany Clasp, Armed Forces Reserve Medal, Combat Infantry
> Badge, Marksman Badge with Rifle Bar, Expert Badge with Bayonet Bar,
> French Fourragere in Colors of the Croix de Guerre, French Legion of
> Honor, Grade of Chevalier, French Croix de Guerre With Silver Star, French
> Croix de Guerre with Palm, Medal of Liberated France, Belgian Croix de
> Guerre 1940 Palm.
>
> So how do you feel the real heroes of the silver screen acted when
> compared to the hollywonks today who spray out anti-American drivel as
> they bite the hand that feeds them? Can you imagine these stars of
> yester-year saying they hate our flag, making anti-war speeches, marching
> in anti-American parades and saying they hate our president?
>
> I thought not, neither did I!
>