Dave, We have a show on educational TV called Motor Week that highlights
the auto news every week (They actually pretty much just shill for the
manufacturers but that is a topic for another post)

Anyway....

Yesterday they did the Land Rover LR2 and it was amusing to see that every
time it went around the bend on the dirt road it seemed to skip sideways a
bit.

http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/carkeys/

Is that common with LandRovers or is this new model just poorly designed?

"Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
news:TqjPg.20652$r61.16619@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> Had to google what an LR2 was - the Freelander (or Freeloader as I call
> it).
> A total piece of crap which sells like hot cakes. Has all the ground
> clearance of a minature daschund, no low range, a suspension system with
> the
> structural integrity of a chinese crispy noodle, and an engine as powerful
> as a geriatric with diahorrea. Even comes with an electric rear window so
> the occupants can gas themselves to death more quickly (not enough do).
>
> Dave
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:-IGdnQ_bjrxeFJDYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>> One of them is making Land Rover LR2s out of s**t-box mini sedans. The
>> other one, well nobody seems to care what they do.
>>
>> Dave Milne proclaimed:
>> > So why aren't you blaming the presumably traitorous Good Ole Boys who
> sold
>> > it to them ?
>> > It looks more like you dropped your trousers and stuck a white flag up
> your
>> > **** rather than they came storming over the parapet and bet you fair
> and
>> > square. And what are GM and Ford doing to fill the patriotic gap ?
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:450C847B.87981A78@***.net...
>> >
>> >> Of course, the kraut cars doesn't compare, but they have stopped
>> >>making the Jeep.
>> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>
>> >>Dave Milne wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Truth be told, I wouldn't mind a Gelandewagon - it is an honest proper
>> >>>offroader. But a M class is a POS that is no way comparable to a
>> >
>> > Cherokee.
>> >
>> >>>Dave
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>

 

Not in my experience, so I guess that's a Freeloader thing. They have a lot
of cunning electronics tied into the ABS to cope for the lack of lockers and
a low range ; features such as "Hill Descent" control which slaps on the
brakes when you go too fast down a hill, Electronic Traction Control ,
"Electronic Brakeforce Distribution" which they say "balances the braking
performance between front and rear axles for maximum braking efficiency and
reduced risk of rear wheel lock", plus ABS which you would have thought did
the same thing.
So goodness knows what's going on round a dirty corner with that lot trying
to have their say !

Dave

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:dc992$450e04c0$422afc51$25690@FUSE.NET...
> Dave, We have a show on educational TV called Motor Week that highlights
> the auto news every week (They actually pretty much just shill for the
> manufacturers but that is a topic for another post)
>
> Anyway....
>
> Yesterday they did the Land Rover LR2 and it was amusing to see that every
> time it went around the bend on the dirt road it seemed to skip sideways a
> bit.
>
> http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/carkeys/
>
> Is that common with LandRovers or is this new model just poorly designed?

 

Not in my experience, so I guess that's a Freeloader thing. They have a lot
of cunning electronics tied into the ABS to cope for the lack of lockers and
a low range ; features such as "Hill Descent" control which slaps on the
brakes when you go too fast down a hill, Electronic Traction Control ,
"Electronic Brakeforce Distribution" which they say "balances the braking
performance between front and rear axles for maximum braking efficiency and
reduced risk of rear wheel lock", plus ABS which you would have thought did
the same thing.
So goodness knows what's going on round a dirty corner with that lot trying
to have their say !

Dave

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:dc992$450e04c0$422afc51$25690@FUSE.NET...
> Dave, We have a show on educational TV called Motor Week that highlights
> the auto news every week (They actually pretty much just shill for the
> manufacturers but that is a topic for another post)
>
> Anyway....
>
> Yesterday they did the Land Rover LR2 and it was amusing to see that every
> time it went around the bend on the dirt road it seemed to skip sideways a
> bit.
>
> http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/carkeys/
>
> Is that common with LandRovers or is this new model just poorly designed?

 

Not in my experience, so I guess that's a Freeloader thing. They have a lot
of cunning electronics tied into the ABS to cope for the lack of lockers and
a low range ; features such as "Hill Descent" control which slaps on the
brakes when you go too fast down a hill, Electronic Traction Control ,
"Electronic Brakeforce Distribution" which they say "balances the braking
performance between front and rear axles for maximum braking efficiency and
reduced risk of rear wheel lock", plus ABS which you would have thought did
the same thing.
So goodness knows what's going on round a dirty corner with that lot trying
to have their say !

Dave

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:dc992$450e04c0$422afc51$25690@FUSE.NET...
> Dave, We have a show on educational TV called Motor Week that highlights
> the auto news every week (They actually pretty much just shill for the
> manufacturers but that is a topic for another post)
>
> Anyway....
>
> Yesterday they did the Land Rover LR2 and it was amusing to see that every
> time it went around the bend on the dirt road it seemed to skip sideways a
> bit.
>
> http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/carkeys/
>
> Is that common with LandRovers or is this new model just poorly designed?

 

I read somewhere that the Mercedes offering wasn't good for much except
accelerated brake wear.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
news:cnsPg.20787$r61.6022@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Not in my experience, so I guess that's a Freeloader thing. They have a
lot
> of cunning electronics tied into the ABS to cope for the lack of lockers
and
> a low range ; features such as "Hill Descent" control which slaps on the
> brakes when you go too fast down a hill, Electronic Traction Control ,
> "Electronic Brakeforce Distribution" which they say "balances the braking
> performance between front and rear axles for maximum braking efficiency
and
> reduced risk of rear wheel lock", plus ABS which you would have thought
did
> the same thing.
> So goodness knows what's going on round a dirty corner with that lot
trying
> to have their say !
>
> Dave
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:dc992$450e04c0$422afc51$25690@FUSE.NET...
> > Dave, We have a show on educational TV called Motor Week that
highlights
> > the auto news every week (They actually pretty much just shill for the
> > manufacturers but that is a topic for another post)
> >
> > Anyway....
> >
> > Yesterday they did the Land Rover LR2 and it was amusing to see that
every
> > time it went around the bend on the dirt road it seemed to skip sideways
a
> > bit.
> >
> > http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/carkeys/
> >
> > Is that common with LandRovers or is this new model just poorly
designed?
>
>

 

I read somewhere that the Mercedes offering wasn't good for much except
accelerated brake wear.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
news:cnsPg.20787$r61.6022@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Not in my experience, so I guess that's a Freeloader thing. They have a
lot
> of cunning electronics tied into the ABS to cope for the lack of lockers
and
> a low range ; features such as "Hill Descent" control which slaps on the
> brakes when you go too fast down a hill, Electronic Traction Control ,
> "Electronic Brakeforce Distribution" which they say "balances the braking
> performance between front and rear axles for maximum braking efficiency
and
> reduced risk of rear wheel lock", plus ABS which you would have thought
did
> the same thing.
> So goodness knows what's going on round a dirty corner with that lot
trying
> to have their say !
>
> Dave
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:dc992$450e04c0$422afc51$25690@FUSE.NET...
> > Dave, We have a show on educational TV called Motor Week that
highlights
> > the auto news every week (They actually pretty much just shill for the
> > manufacturers but that is a topic for another post)
> >
> > Anyway....
> >
> > Yesterday they did the Land Rover LR2 and it was amusing to see that
every
> > time it went around the bend on the dirt road it seemed to skip sideways
a
> > bit.
> >
> > http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/carkeys/
> >
> > Is that common with LandRovers or is this new model just poorly
designed?
>
>

 

I read somewhere that the Mercedes offering wasn't good for much except
accelerated brake wear.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
news:cnsPg.20787$r61.6022@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Not in my experience, so I guess that's a Freeloader thing. They have a
lot
> of cunning electronics tied into the ABS to cope for the lack of lockers
and
> a low range ; features such as "Hill Descent" control which slaps on the
> brakes when you go too fast down a hill, Electronic Traction Control ,
> "Electronic Brakeforce Distribution" which they say "balances the braking
> performance between front and rear axles for maximum braking efficiency
and
> reduced risk of rear wheel lock", plus ABS which you would have thought
did
> the same thing.
> So goodness knows what's going on round a dirty corner with that lot
trying
> to have their say !
>
> Dave
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:dc992$450e04c0$422afc51$25690@FUSE.NET...
> > Dave, We have a show on educational TV called Motor Week that
highlights
> > the auto news every week (They actually pretty much just shill for the
> > manufacturers but that is a topic for another post)
> >
> > Anyway....
> >
> > Yesterday they did the Land Rover LR2 and it was amusing to see that
every
> > time it went around the bend on the dirt road it seemed to skip sideways
a
> > bit.
> >
> > http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/carkeys/
> >
> > Is that common with LandRovers or is this new model just poorly
designed?
>
>

 

I saw that show Billy Ray, and I suspect you may have misinterpreted the
video a bit. It isn't that LR2 itself that skips a bit around
corners, it is the LR2 owners that skip around corners. The vehicle is
just so light it moves every time the owner moves. Too bad it wasn't
done up in flaming puce.

I wonder, a generation from now, when young folks hear us drooling old
timers babble about "real jeeps", whether the young folks will even
understand the concept or just wonder why anyone would give a rat about
a pimped out s**tbox sedan with big tires and excessive price.

billy ray proclaimed:

> Dave, We have a show on educational TV called Motor Week that highlights
> the auto news every week (They actually pretty much just shill for the
> manufacturers but that is a topic for another post)
>
> Anyway....
>
> Yesterday they did the Land Rover LR2 and it was amusing to see that every
> time it went around the bend on the dirt road it seemed to skip sideways a
> bit.
>
> http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/carkeys/
>
> Is that common with LandRovers or is this new model just poorly designed?
>
> "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> news:TqjPg.20652$r61.16619@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>
>>Had to google what an LR2 was - the Freelander (or Freeloader as I call
>>it).
>>A total piece of crap which sells like hot cakes. Has all the ground
>>clearance of a minature daschund, no low range, a suspension system with
>>the
>>structural integrity of a chinese crispy noodle, and an engine as powerful
>>as a geriatric with diahorrea. Even comes with an electric rear window so
>>the occupants can gas themselves to death more quickly (not enough do).
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:-IGdnQ_bjrxeFJDYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>>>One of them is making Land Rover LR2s out of s**t-box mini sedans. The
>>>other one, well nobody seems to care what they do.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne proclaimed:
>>>
>>>>So why aren't you blaming the presumably traitorous Good Ole Boys who
>>
>>sold
>>
>>>>it to them ?
>>>>It looks more like you dropped your trousers and stuck a white flag up
>>
>>your
>>
>>>>**** rather than they came storming over the parapet and bet you fair
>>
>>and
>>
>>>>square. And what are GM and Ford doing to fill the patriotic gap ?
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:450C847B.87981A78@***.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Of course, the kraut cars doesn't compare, but they have stopped
>>>>>making the Jeep.
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Truth be told, I wouldn't mind a Gelandewagon - it is an honest proper
>>>>>>offroader. But a M class is a POS that is no way comparable to a
>>>>
>>>>Cherokee.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>

 

I saw that show Billy Ray, and I suspect you may have misinterpreted the
video a bit. It isn't that LR2 itself that skips a bit around
corners, it is the LR2 owners that skip around corners. The vehicle is
just so light it moves every time the owner moves. Too bad it wasn't
done up in flaming puce.

I wonder, a generation from now, when young folks hear us drooling old
timers babble about "real jeeps", whether the young folks will even
understand the concept or just wonder why anyone would give a rat about
a pimped out s**tbox sedan with big tires and excessive price.

billy ray proclaimed:

> Dave, We have a show on educational TV called Motor Week that highlights
> the auto news every week (They actually pretty much just shill for the
> manufacturers but that is a topic for another post)
>
> Anyway....
>
> Yesterday they did the Land Rover LR2 and it was amusing to see that every
> time it went around the bend on the dirt road it seemed to skip sideways a
> bit.
>
> http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/carkeys/
>
> Is that common with LandRovers or is this new model just poorly designed?
>
> "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> news:TqjPg.20652$r61.16619@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>
>>Had to google what an LR2 was - the Freelander (or Freeloader as I call
>>it).
>>A total piece of crap which sells like hot cakes. Has all the ground
>>clearance of a minature daschund, no low range, a suspension system with
>>the
>>structural integrity of a chinese crispy noodle, and an engine as powerful
>>as a geriatric with diahorrea. Even comes with an electric rear window so
>>the occupants can gas themselves to death more quickly (not enough do).
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:-IGdnQ_bjrxeFJDYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>>>One of them is making Land Rover LR2s out of s**t-box mini sedans. The
>>>other one, well nobody seems to care what they do.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne proclaimed:
>>>
>>>>So why aren't you blaming the presumably traitorous Good Ole Boys who
>>
>>sold
>>
>>>>it to them ?
>>>>It looks more like you dropped your trousers and stuck a white flag up
>>
>>your
>>
>>>>**** rather than they came storming over the parapet and bet you fair
>>
>>and
>>
>>>>square. And what are GM and Ford doing to fill the patriotic gap ?
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:450C847B.87981A78@***.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Of course, the kraut cars doesn't compare, but they have stopped
>>>>>making the Jeep.
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Truth be told, I wouldn't mind a Gelandewagon - it is an honest proper
>>>>>>offroader. But a M class is a POS that is no way comparable to a
>>>>
>>>>Cherokee.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>

 

I saw that show Billy Ray, and I suspect you may have misinterpreted the
video a bit. It isn't that LR2 itself that skips a bit around
corners, it is the LR2 owners that skip around corners. The vehicle is
just so light it moves every time the owner moves. Too bad it wasn't
done up in flaming puce.

I wonder, a generation from now, when young folks hear us drooling old
timers babble about "real jeeps", whether the young folks will even
understand the concept or just wonder why anyone would give a rat about
a pimped out s**tbox sedan with big tires and excessive price.

billy ray proclaimed:

> Dave, We have a show on educational TV called Motor Week that highlights
> the auto news every week (They actually pretty much just shill for the
> manufacturers but that is a topic for another post)
>
> Anyway....
>
> Yesterday they did the Land Rover LR2 and it was amusing to see that every
> time it went around the bend on the dirt road it seemed to skip sideways a
> bit.
>
> http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/carkeys/
>
> Is that common with LandRovers or is this new model just poorly designed?
>
> "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> news:TqjPg.20652$r61.16619@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>
>>Had to google what an LR2 was - the Freelander (or Freeloader as I call
>>it).
>>A total piece of crap which sells like hot cakes. Has all the ground
>>clearance of a minature daschund, no low range, a suspension system with
>>the
>>structural integrity of a chinese crispy noodle, and an engine as powerful
>>as a geriatric with diahorrea. Even comes with an electric rear window so
>>the occupants can gas themselves to death more quickly (not enough do).
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:-IGdnQ_bjrxeFJDYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>>>One of them is making Land Rover LR2s out of s**t-box mini sedans. The
>>>other one, well nobody seems to care what they do.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne proclaimed:
>>>
>>>>So why aren't you blaming the presumably traitorous Good Ole Boys who
>>
>>sold
>>
>>>>it to them ?
>>>>It looks more like you dropped your trousers and stuck a white flag up
>>
>>your
>>
>>>>**** rather than they came storming over the parapet and bet you fair
>>
>>and
>>
>>>>square. And what are GM and Ford doing to fill the patriotic gap ?
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:450C847B.87981A78@***.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Of course, the kraut cars doesn't compare, but they have stopped
>>>>>making the Jeep.
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Truth be told, I wouldn't mind a Gelandewagon - it is an honest proper
>>>>>>offroader. But a M class is a POS that is no way comparable to a
>>>>
>>>>Cherokee.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>