OT: Garage Ideas
09-22-2005, 09:29 AM
#201
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Re: Garage Ideas
That's why I filled my house system with 50/50 mix, just like I use in the
cars. It took 120 gallons, but it was worth it for piece of mind. When I
bought the house, inspection of the heating system revealed, that the
hundred year old iron pipes had frozen at least once. Ethylene glycol and
the fancy additives that they put in it, are also good for the circulation
pump seals. If you use modern equipment and pipe sizes, the amount of fluid
is much less.
I have scale traps in the return lines, to protect the new boiler and
circulation pumps, and a recycling system for when I have to drain and make
repairs. You can do without this for modern equipment too. But I love cast
iron radiators.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4331BE7C.529960D5@sympatico.ca...
> Water heat is too dangerous in an area that goes below zero. If the
> power goes out, you have a bad mess to fix and clean up....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > One of the things that I like about Spain, is the heating equipment.
All of
> > the buildings that I have been in, where I have noticed, have hot water
> > heating. It came on this morning, and it was just great, standing next
to a
> > wall mounted radiator. I would put radiant slab heating in that garage.
> >
> > The last garage I had, I put a ceiling mounted, fan forced, natural gas
> > fired heater in it. That was nice, but not nearly as nice as a hydronic
> > system would have been.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Pi-Eyed Piper" <asd@asd.com> wrote in message
> > news:vv4Ye.533546$s54.193148@pd7tw2no...
> > > So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated, etc...
> > >
> > > Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add
on,
> > > leave out?
> > >
> > > Any ideas are appreciated!
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
cars. It took 120 gallons, but it was worth it for piece of mind. When I
bought the house, inspection of the heating system revealed, that the
hundred year old iron pipes had frozen at least once. Ethylene glycol and
the fancy additives that they put in it, are also good for the circulation
pump seals. If you use modern equipment and pipe sizes, the amount of fluid
is much less.
I have scale traps in the return lines, to protect the new boiler and
circulation pumps, and a recycling system for when I have to drain and make
repairs. You can do without this for modern equipment too. But I love cast
iron radiators.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4331BE7C.529960D5@sympatico.ca...
> Water heat is too dangerous in an area that goes below zero. If the
> power goes out, you have a bad mess to fix and clean up....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > One of the things that I like about Spain, is the heating equipment.
All of
> > the buildings that I have been in, where I have noticed, have hot water
> > heating. It came on this morning, and it was just great, standing next
to a
> > wall mounted radiator. I would put radiant slab heating in that garage.
> >
> > The last garage I had, I put a ceiling mounted, fan forced, natural gas
> > fired heater in it. That was nice, but not nearly as nice as a hydronic
> > system would have been.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Pi-Eyed Piper" <asd@asd.com> wrote in message
> > news:vv4Ye.533546$s54.193148@pd7tw2no...
> > > So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated, etc...
> > >
> > > Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add
on,
> > > leave out?
> > >
> > > Any ideas are appreciated!
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
09-22-2005, 09:29 AM
#202
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Re: Garage Ideas
That's why I filled my house system with 50/50 mix, just like I use in the
cars. It took 120 gallons, but it was worth it for piece of mind. When I
bought the house, inspection of the heating system revealed, that the
hundred year old iron pipes had frozen at least once. Ethylene glycol and
the fancy additives that they put in it, are also good for the circulation
pump seals. If you use modern equipment and pipe sizes, the amount of fluid
is much less.
I have scale traps in the return lines, to protect the new boiler and
circulation pumps, and a recycling system for when I have to drain and make
repairs. You can do without this for modern equipment too. But I love cast
iron radiators.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4331BE7C.529960D5@sympatico.ca...
> Water heat is too dangerous in an area that goes below zero. If the
> power goes out, you have a bad mess to fix and clean up....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > One of the things that I like about Spain, is the heating equipment.
All of
> > the buildings that I have been in, where I have noticed, have hot water
> > heating. It came on this morning, and it was just great, standing next
to a
> > wall mounted radiator. I would put radiant slab heating in that garage.
> >
> > The last garage I had, I put a ceiling mounted, fan forced, natural gas
> > fired heater in it. That was nice, but not nearly as nice as a hydronic
> > system would have been.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Pi-Eyed Piper" <asd@asd.com> wrote in message
> > news:vv4Ye.533546$s54.193148@pd7tw2no...
> > > So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated, etc...
> > >
> > > Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add
on,
> > > leave out?
> > >
> > > Any ideas are appreciated!
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
cars. It took 120 gallons, but it was worth it for piece of mind. When I
bought the house, inspection of the heating system revealed, that the
hundred year old iron pipes had frozen at least once. Ethylene glycol and
the fancy additives that they put in it, are also good for the circulation
pump seals. If you use modern equipment and pipe sizes, the amount of fluid
is much less.
I have scale traps in the return lines, to protect the new boiler and
circulation pumps, and a recycling system for when I have to drain and make
repairs. You can do without this for modern equipment too. But I love cast
iron radiators.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4331BE7C.529960D5@sympatico.ca...
> Water heat is too dangerous in an area that goes below zero. If the
> power goes out, you have a bad mess to fix and clean up....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > One of the things that I like about Spain, is the heating equipment.
All of
> > the buildings that I have been in, where I have noticed, have hot water
> > heating. It came on this morning, and it was just great, standing next
to a
> > wall mounted radiator. I would put radiant slab heating in that garage.
> >
> > The last garage I had, I put a ceiling mounted, fan forced, natural gas
> > fired heater in it. That was nice, but not nearly as nice as a hydronic
> > system would have been.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Pi-Eyed Piper" <asd@asd.com> wrote in message
> > news:vv4Ye.533546$s54.193148@pd7tw2no...
> > > So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated, etc...
> > >
> > > Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add
on,
> > > leave out?
> > >
> > > Any ideas are appreciated!
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
09-22-2005, 04:01 PM
#203
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Re: OT: Garage Ideas
Hi Kate,
Yes, the twelve volt impact works great, I bought it for something
twenty five buck from one of the junk mail catalogs we get. Helps a lot
in changing tires to flat tow home, when we're just too tired to turn
another wrench: http://www.----------.com/stuck.jpg
Yes, like your husband I used have 3/4" drive tools, but they were
taken from my business in a burglary. It still left me with probably
about twenty thousand in tools, so I do just about anything.
It's a '57 T-Bird I plan to be dropped in the ocean with, that I've
owned since '63: http://www.----------.com/temp/dragster2.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Kate wrote:
>
> Bill gots TOYS!!!
> Your cracker box looks just like the one in our shop.
> Now is that 12v impact any good?
>
> My hubby (----) retired from OE local 3 after a gazillion years. He was a
> heavy equipment mechanic and operator.
> We have more tools than good sense. Some of his wrenches look more like
> shovel handles than hand tools.
>
> Funny thing, he will work on equipment, but when it comes to automotive it
> is like pulling teeth. He's rather trade it in than work on it.
>
> Inquiring minds want to know, what is that shiny white car behind the
> oxy/acetylene setup? Huh huh?
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
Yes, the twelve volt impact works great, I bought it for something
twenty five buck from one of the junk mail catalogs we get. Helps a lot
in changing tires to flat tow home, when we're just too tired to turn
another wrench: http://www.----------.com/stuck.jpg
Yes, like your husband I used have 3/4" drive tools, but they were
taken from my business in a burglary. It still left me with probably
about twenty thousand in tools, so I do just about anything.
It's a '57 T-Bird I plan to be dropped in the ocean with, that I've
owned since '63: http://www.----------.com/temp/dragster2.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Kate wrote:
>
> Bill gots TOYS!!!
> Your cracker box looks just like the one in our shop.
> Now is that 12v impact any good?
>
> My hubby (----) retired from OE local 3 after a gazillion years. He was a
> heavy equipment mechanic and operator.
> We have more tools than good sense. Some of his wrenches look more like
> shovel handles than hand tools.
>
> Funny thing, he will work on equipment, but when it comes to automotive it
> is like pulling teeth. He's rather trade it in than work on it.
>
> Inquiring minds want to know, what is that shiny white car behind the
> oxy/acetylene setup? Huh huh?
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
09-22-2005, 04:01 PM
#204
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Re: OT: Garage Ideas
Hi Kate,
Yes, the twelve volt impact works great, I bought it for something
twenty five buck from one of the junk mail catalogs we get. Helps a lot
in changing tires to flat tow home, when we're just too tired to turn
another wrench: http://www.----------.com/stuck.jpg
Yes, like your husband I used have 3/4" drive tools, but they were
taken from my business in a burglary. It still left me with probably
about twenty thousand in tools, so I do just about anything.
It's a '57 T-Bird I plan to be dropped in the ocean with, that I've
owned since '63: http://www.----------.com/temp/dragster2.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Kate wrote:
>
> Bill gots TOYS!!!
> Your cracker box looks just like the one in our shop.
> Now is that 12v impact any good?
>
> My hubby (----) retired from OE local 3 after a gazillion years. He was a
> heavy equipment mechanic and operator.
> We have more tools than good sense. Some of his wrenches look more like
> shovel handles than hand tools.
>
> Funny thing, he will work on equipment, but when it comes to automotive it
> is like pulling teeth. He's rather trade it in than work on it.
>
> Inquiring minds want to know, what is that shiny white car behind the
> oxy/acetylene setup? Huh huh?
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
Yes, the twelve volt impact works great, I bought it for something
twenty five buck from one of the junk mail catalogs we get. Helps a lot
in changing tires to flat tow home, when we're just too tired to turn
another wrench: http://www.----------.com/stuck.jpg
Yes, like your husband I used have 3/4" drive tools, but they were
taken from my business in a burglary. It still left me with probably
about twenty thousand in tools, so I do just about anything.
It's a '57 T-Bird I plan to be dropped in the ocean with, that I've
owned since '63: http://www.----------.com/temp/dragster2.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Kate wrote:
>
> Bill gots TOYS!!!
> Your cracker box looks just like the one in our shop.
> Now is that 12v impact any good?
>
> My hubby (----) retired from OE local 3 after a gazillion years. He was a
> heavy equipment mechanic and operator.
> We have more tools than good sense. Some of his wrenches look more like
> shovel handles than hand tools.
>
> Funny thing, he will work on equipment, but when it comes to automotive it
> is like pulling teeth. He's rather trade it in than work on it.
>
> Inquiring minds want to know, what is that shiny white car behind the
> oxy/acetylene setup? Huh huh?
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
09-22-2005, 04:01 PM
#205
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT: Garage Ideas
Hi Kate,
Yes, the twelve volt impact works great, I bought it for something
twenty five buck from one of the junk mail catalogs we get. Helps a lot
in changing tires to flat tow home, when we're just too tired to turn
another wrench: http://www.----------.com/stuck.jpg
Yes, like your husband I used have 3/4" drive tools, but they were
taken from my business in a burglary. It still left me with probably
about twenty thousand in tools, so I do just about anything.
It's a '57 T-Bird I plan to be dropped in the ocean with, that I've
owned since '63: http://www.----------.com/temp/dragster2.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Kate wrote:
>
> Bill gots TOYS!!!
> Your cracker box looks just like the one in our shop.
> Now is that 12v impact any good?
>
> My hubby (----) retired from OE local 3 after a gazillion years. He was a
> heavy equipment mechanic and operator.
> We have more tools than good sense. Some of his wrenches look more like
> shovel handles than hand tools.
>
> Funny thing, he will work on equipment, but when it comes to automotive it
> is like pulling teeth. He's rather trade it in than work on it.
>
> Inquiring minds want to know, what is that shiny white car behind the
> oxy/acetylene setup? Huh huh?
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
Yes, the twelve volt impact works great, I bought it for something
twenty five buck from one of the junk mail catalogs we get. Helps a lot
in changing tires to flat tow home, when we're just too tired to turn
another wrench: http://www.----------.com/stuck.jpg
Yes, like your husband I used have 3/4" drive tools, but they were
taken from my business in a burglary. It still left me with probably
about twenty thousand in tools, so I do just about anything.
It's a '57 T-Bird I plan to be dropped in the ocean with, that I've
owned since '63: http://www.----------.com/temp/dragster2.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Kate wrote:
>
> Bill gots TOYS!!!
> Your cracker box looks just like the one in our shop.
> Now is that 12v impact any good?
>
> My hubby (----) retired from OE local 3 after a gazillion years. He was a
> heavy equipment mechanic and operator.
> We have more tools than good sense. Some of his wrenches look more like
> shovel handles than hand tools.
>
> Funny thing, he will work on equipment, but when it comes to automotive it
> is like pulling teeth. He's rather trade it in than work on it.
>
> Inquiring minds want to know, what is that shiny white car behind the
> oxy/acetylene setup? Huh huh?
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
09-22-2005, 07:24 PM
#206
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Re: Off Topic Re: Garage Ideas
Nope, just sugar beets. LOTS of sugar beets. Lots of SMELLY sugerbeets.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> You guys make molasses way up there in the Great White North?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>>Yep, sorta exciting to discover that the 30 weight oil won't come out of
>>the can since it has congealed and turned to what looks like candle wax.
>>And low carbon steel will shatter if you pound on it
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> You guys make molasses way up there in the Great White North?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>>Yep, sorta exciting to discover that the 30 weight oil won't come out of
>>the can since it has congealed and turned to what looks like candle wax.
>>And low carbon steel will shatter if you pound on it
09-22-2005, 07:24 PM
#207
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Re: Off Topic Re: Garage Ideas
Nope, just sugar beets. LOTS of sugar beets. Lots of SMELLY sugerbeets.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> You guys make molasses way up there in the Great White North?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>>Yep, sorta exciting to discover that the 30 weight oil won't come out of
>>the can since it has congealed and turned to what looks like candle wax.
>>And low carbon steel will shatter if you pound on it
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> You guys make molasses way up there in the Great White North?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>>Yep, sorta exciting to discover that the 30 weight oil won't come out of
>>the can since it has congealed and turned to what looks like candle wax.
>>And low carbon steel will shatter if you pound on it
09-22-2005, 07:24 PM
#208
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Re: Off Topic Re: Garage Ideas
Nope, just sugar beets. LOTS of sugar beets. Lots of SMELLY sugerbeets.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> You guys make molasses way up there in the Great White North?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>>Yep, sorta exciting to discover that the 30 weight oil won't come out of
>>the can since it has congealed and turned to what looks like candle wax.
>>And low carbon steel will shatter if you pound on it
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> You guys make molasses way up there in the Great White North?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>>Yep, sorta exciting to discover that the 30 weight oil won't come out of
>>the can since it has congealed and turned to what looks like candle wax.
>>And low carbon steel will shatter if you pound on it
09-22-2005, 07:44 PM
#209
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Re: Off Topic Re: Garage Ideas
Interesting, I associated sugar beats with sugarcane, like grows in
tropical climates. So like you would hibernate like the bears, in the
winter, or do they need care under all that snow? ;-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
RoyJ wrote:
>
> Nope, just sugar beets. LOTS of sugar beets. Lots of SMELLY sugerbeets.
tropical climates. So like you would hibernate like the bears, in the
winter, or do they need care under all that snow? ;-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
RoyJ wrote:
>
> Nope, just sugar beets. LOTS of sugar beets. Lots of SMELLY sugerbeets.
09-22-2005, 07:44 PM
#210
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Re: Off Topic Re: Garage Ideas
Interesting, I associated sugar beats with sugarcane, like grows in
tropical climates. So like you would hibernate like the bears, in the
winter, or do they need care under all that snow? ;-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
RoyJ wrote:
>
> Nope, just sugar beets. LOTS of sugar beets. Lots of SMELLY sugerbeets.
tropical climates. So like you would hibernate like the bears, in the
winter, or do they need care under all that snow? ;-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
RoyJ wrote:
>
> Nope, just sugar beets. LOTS of sugar beets. Lots of SMELLY sugerbeets.
