OT: Diesels are the way to go
04-16-2007, 09:16 PM
#41
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Re: Diesels are the way to go
I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as peppy
as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are plenty of
trees there, except in the dry central part which is a little like Western
Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was early morning, just after I
had rented it, and while it was warming up. The Avis guy and I were
standing right back of the rear bumper, shooting the breeze, and it was just
a faint smell you could barely detect. I would have no qualms about letting
these cars in the States, except for the block heater I would probably need
in Silverton.
Another time I was in the Bus Depot in Burgos, and a guy from LA started
having breathing difficulties. I was trying to remember the Spanish
equivalent of "911" but he just stuck his head down by the bus exhaust, and
was OK in a minute or two. (Third time I've used this story. Have to go
back soon and get another one. You old coots won't notice anyway.)
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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> I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing
> them with the Mercedes V-6's.
>
> After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been
the
> four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on the
> registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German
friend...
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:beCdnSf6FbIajrnbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
> >> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
> >> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
> >> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure
> >> of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an
I6
> >> as well.
> >
> > I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars
in
> > Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder
> > diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW
logo.
> > Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you
> > have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the
number
> > of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was
nothing
> > under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking
the
> > plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think
it
> > was.
> >
> >>
> >> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said
> >> that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans
> >> Series. They kick ***. I need to re-think my position on them.
> >
> > This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
> > performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every
car
> > that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph)
was
> > an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing
> > still :-)
> >
> >>
> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
> >>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
> >>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
> >>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and
> >>> the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week
has
> >>> me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big
time
> >>> on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
> >>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
> >>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about
> >>> 34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was
> >>> about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a
> >>> different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once
> >>> did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
> >>>
> >>> Just thought I'd share...
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> ---
> >>> Matt Macchiarolo
> >>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are plenty of
trees there, except in the dry central part which is a little like Western
Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was early morning, just after I
had rented it, and while it was warming up. The Avis guy and I were
standing right back of the rear bumper, shooting the breeze, and it was just
a faint smell you could barely detect. I would have no qualms about letting
these cars in the States, except for the block heater I would probably need
in Silverton.
Another time I was in the Bus Depot in Burgos, and a guy from LA started
having breathing difficulties. I was trying to remember the Spanish
equivalent of "911" but he just stuck his head down by the bus exhaust, and
was OK in a minute or two. (Third time I've used this story. Have to go
back soon and get another one. You old coots won't notice anyway.)
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:fMGdnUwia9OJhLnbnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing
> them with the Mercedes V-6's.
>
> After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been
the
> four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on the
> registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German
friend...
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:beCdnSf6FbIajrnbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
> >> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
> >> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
> >> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure
> >> of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an
I6
> >> as well.
> >
> > I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars
in
> > Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder
> > diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW
logo.
> > Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you
> > have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the
number
> > of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was
nothing
> > under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking
the
> > plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think
it
> > was.
> >
> >>
> >> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said
> >> that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans
> >> Series. They kick ***. I need to re-think my position on them.
> >
> > This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
> > performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every
car
> > that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph)
was
> > an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing
> > still :-)
> >
> >>
> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
> >>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
> >>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
> >>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and
> >>> the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week
has
> >>> me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big
time
> >>> on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
> >>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
> >>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about
> >>> 34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was
> >>> about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a
> >>> different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once
> >>> did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
> >>>
> >>> Just thought I'd share...
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> ---
> >>> Matt Macchiarolo
> >>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
04-16-2007, 09:40 PM
#42
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Re: Diesels are the way to go
Earle Horton wrote:
> I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as
> peppy as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are
> plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a
> little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was
> early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming
> up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper,
> shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely
> detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the
> States, except for the block heater I would probably need in
> Silverton.
Keep in mind the diesel fuel they have over there is more refined
than what you find in the pumps here. They will still run on it
but the smell will be just like any other diesel on the road over
here.
I've driven the 4cyl Golf before, but I like the BMW +1 because
you can park four in a one-car garage. :) It's like riding in
a pimped out gocart.
--
DougW
> I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as
> peppy as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are
> plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a
> little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was
> early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming
> up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper,
> shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely
> detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the
> States, except for the block heater I would probably need in
> Silverton.
Keep in mind the diesel fuel they have over there is more refined
than what you find in the pumps here. They will still run on it
but the smell will be just like any other diesel on the road over
here.
I've driven the 4cyl Golf before, but I like the BMW +1 because
you can park four in a one-car garage. :) It's like riding in
a pimped out gocart.
--
DougW
04-16-2007, 09:40 PM
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Re: Diesels are the way to go
Earle Horton wrote:
> I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as
> peppy as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are
> plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a
> little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was
> early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming
> up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper,
> shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely
> detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the
> States, except for the block heater I would probably need in
> Silverton.
Keep in mind the diesel fuel they have over there is more refined
than what you find in the pumps here. They will still run on it
but the smell will be just like any other diesel on the road over
here.
I've driven the 4cyl Golf before, but I like the BMW +1 because
you can park four in a one-car garage. :) It's like riding in
a pimped out gocart.
--
DougW
> I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as
> peppy as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are
> plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a
> little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was
> early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming
> up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper,
> shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely
> detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the
> States, except for the block heater I would probably need in
> Silverton.
Keep in mind the diesel fuel they have over there is more refined
than what you find in the pumps here. They will still run on it
but the smell will be just like any other diesel on the road over
here.
I've driven the 4cyl Golf before, but I like the BMW +1 because
you can park four in a one-car garage. :) It's like riding in
a pimped out gocart.
--
DougW
04-16-2007, 09:40 PM
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Re: Diesels are the way to go
Earle Horton wrote:
> I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as
> peppy as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are
> plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a
> little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was
> early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming
> up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper,
> shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely
> detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the
> States, except for the block heater I would probably need in
> Silverton.
Keep in mind the diesel fuel they have over there is more refined
than what you find in the pumps here. They will still run on it
but the smell will be just like any other diesel on the road over
here.
I've driven the 4cyl Golf before, but I like the BMW +1 because
you can park four in a one-car garage. :) It's like riding in
a pimped out gocart.
--
DougW
> I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as
> peppy as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are
> plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a
> little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was
> early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming
> up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper,
> shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely
> detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the
> States, except for the block heater I would probably need in
> Silverton.
Keep in mind the diesel fuel they have over there is more refined
than what you find in the pumps here. They will still run on it
but the smell will be just like any other diesel on the road over
here.
I've driven the 4cyl Golf before, but I like the BMW +1 because
you can park four in a one-car garage. :) It's like riding in
a pimped out gocart.
--
DougW
04-16-2007, 09:40 PM
#45
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Re: Diesels are the way to go
Earle Horton wrote:
> I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as
> peppy as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are
> plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a
> little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was
> early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming
> up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper,
> shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely
> detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the
> States, except for the block heater I would probably need in
> Silverton.
Keep in mind the diesel fuel they have over there is more refined
than what you find in the pumps here. They will still run on it
but the smell will be just like any other diesel on the road over
here.
I've driven the 4cyl Golf before, but I like the BMW +1 because
you can park four in a one-car garage. :) It's like riding in
a pimped out gocart.
--
DougW
> I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as
> peppy as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are
> plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a
> little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was
> early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming
> up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper,
> shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely
> detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the
> States, except for the block heater I would probably need in
> Silverton.
Keep in mind the diesel fuel they have over there is more refined
than what you find in the pumps here. They will still run on it
but the smell will be just like any other diesel on the road over
here.
I've driven the 4cyl Golf before, but I like the BMW +1 because
you can park four in a one-car garage. :) It's like riding in
a pimped out gocart.
--
DougW
04-16-2007, 09:49 PM
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Re: Diesels are the way to go
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> Earle Horton wrote:
> > I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as
> > peppy as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are
> > plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a
> > little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was
> > early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming
> > up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper,
> > shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely
> > detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the
> > States, except for the block heater I would probably need in
> > Silverton.
>
> Keep in mind the diesel fuel they have over there is more refined
> than what you find in the pumps here. They will still run on it
> but the smell will be just like any other diesel on the road over
> here.
>
> I've driven the 4cyl Golf before, but I like the BMW +1 because
> you can park four in a one-car garage. :) It's like riding in
> a pimped out gocart.
>
You'd like the Smart Car then.
http://www.smartcar.com/
Earle
news:8AVUh.113834$nh4.66384@newsfe20.lga...
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as
> > peppy as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are
> > plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a
> > little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was
> > early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming
> > up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper,
> > shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely
> > detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the
> > States, except for the block heater I would probably need in
> > Silverton.
>
> Keep in mind the diesel fuel they have over there is more refined
> than what you find in the pumps here. They will still run on it
> but the smell will be just like any other diesel on the road over
> here.
>
> I've driven the 4cyl Golf before, but I like the BMW +1 because
> you can park four in a one-car garage. :) It's like riding in
> a pimped out gocart.
>
You'd like the Smart Car then.
http://www.smartcar.com/
Earle
04-16-2007, 09:49 PM
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Re: Diesels are the way to go
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> Earle Horton wrote:
> > I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as
> > peppy as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are
> > plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a
> > little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was
> > early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming
> > up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper,
> > shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely
> > detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the
> > States, except for the block heater I would probably need in
> > Silverton.
>
> Keep in mind the diesel fuel they have over there is more refined
> than what you find in the pumps here. They will still run on it
> but the smell will be just like any other diesel on the road over
> here.
>
> I've driven the 4cyl Golf before, but I like the BMW +1 because
> you can park four in a one-car garage. :) It's like riding in
> a pimped out gocart.
>
You'd like the Smart Car then.
http://www.smartcar.com/
Earle
news:8AVUh.113834$nh4.66384@newsfe20.lga...
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as
> > peppy as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are
> > plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a
> > little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was
> > early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming
> > up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper,
> > shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely
> > detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the
> > States, except for the block heater I would probably need in
> > Silverton.
>
> Keep in mind the diesel fuel they have over there is more refined
> than what you find in the pumps here. They will still run on it
> but the smell will be just like any other diesel on the road over
> here.
>
> I've driven the 4cyl Golf before, but I like the BMW +1 because
> you can park four in a one-car garage. :) It's like riding in
> a pimped out gocart.
>
You'd like the Smart Car then.
http://www.smartcar.com/
Earle
04-16-2007, 09:49 PM
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Re: Diesels are the way to go
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> Earle Horton wrote:
> > I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as
> > peppy as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are
> > plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a
> > little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was
> > early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming
> > up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper,
> > shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely
> > detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the
> > States, except for the block heater I would probably need in
> > Silverton.
>
> Keep in mind the diesel fuel they have over there is more refined
> than what you find in the pumps here. They will still run on it
> but the smell will be just like any other diesel on the road over
> here.
>
> I've driven the 4cyl Golf before, but I like the BMW +1 because
> you can park four in a one-car garage. :) It's like riding in
> a pimped out gocart.
>
You'd like the Smart Car then.
http://www.smartcar.com/
Earle
news:8AVUh.113834$nh4.66384@newsfe20.lga...
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as
> > peppy as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are
> > plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a
> > little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was
> > early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming
> > up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper,
> > shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely
> > detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the
> > States, except for the block heater I would probably need in
> > Silverton.
>
> Keep in mind the diesel fuel they have over there is more refined
> than what you find in the pumps here. They will still run on it
> but the smell will be just like any other diesel on the road over
> here.
>
> I've driven the 4cyl Golf before, but I like the BMW +1 because
> you can park four in a one-car garage. :) It's like riding in
> a pimped out gocart.
>
You'd like the Smart Car then.
http://www.smartcar.com/
Earle
04-16-2007, 09:49 PM
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Re: Diesels are the way to go
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> Earle Horton wrote:
> > I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as
> > peppy as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are
> > plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a
> > little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was
> > early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming
> > up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper,
> > shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely
> > detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the
> > States, except for the block heater I would probably need in
> > Silverton.
>
> Keep in mind the diesel fuel they have over there is more refined
> than what you find in the pumps here. They will still run on it
> but the smell will be just like any other diesel on the road over
> here.
>
> I've driven the 4cyl Golf before, but I like the BMW +1 because
> you can park four in a one-car garage. :) It's like riding in
> a pimped out gocart.
>
You'd like the Smart Car then.
http://www.smartcar.com/
Earle
news:8AVUh.113834$nh4.66384@newsfe20.lga...
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as
> > peppy as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are
> > plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a
> > little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was
> > early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming
> > up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper,
> > shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely
> > detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the
> > States, except for the block heater I would probably need in
> > Silverton.
>
> Keep in mind the diesel fuel they have over there is more refined
> than what you find in the pumps here. They will still run on it
> but the smell will be just like any other diesel on the road over
> here.
>
> I've driven the 4cyl Golf before, but I like the BMW +1 because
> you can park four in a one-car garage. :) It's like riding in
> a pimped out gocart.
>
You'd like the Smart Car then.
http://www.smartcar.com/
Earle
04-16-2007, 10:12 PM
#50
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Re: Diesels are the way to go
When the bonnet is raised, one is allowed to count the exhaust tubes.
Geez Matt, what's wrong with you?
If you had the 6-speed trans, I'm all but certain you had a 6 under the
hood. I do not think the 6-speed is available with the 4 banger. Having said
that, if you squoze 130+ mph from a 4-banger diesel, I'd be impressed so
much that I suppose my eyes would water when I raised the hood -- I mean,
bonnet.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:fMGdnUwia9OJhLnbnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing
>them with the Mercedes V-6's.
>
> After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been
> the four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on
> the registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German
> friend...
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:beCdnSf6FbIajrnbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
>>> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
>>> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
>>> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure
>>> of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6
>>> as well.
>>
>> I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in
>> Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder
>> diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo.
>> Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you
>> have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the
>> number of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was
>> nothing under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of
>> taking the plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I
>> don't think it was.
>>
>>>
>>> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said
>>> that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans
>>> Series. They kick ***. I need to re-think my position on them.
>>
>> This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
>> performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car
>> that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph)
>> was an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing
>> still :-)
>>
>>>
>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>>>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
>>>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
>>>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and
>>>> the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week
>>>> has me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big
>>>> time on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had
>>>> great acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
>>>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about
>>>> 34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was
>>>> about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a
>>>> different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once
>>>> did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>>>
>>>> Just thought I'd share...
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ---
>>>> Matt Macchiarolo
>>>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Geez Matt, what's wrong with you?
If you had the 6-speed trans, I'm all but certain you had a 6 under the
hood. I do not think the 6-speed is available with the 4 banger. Having said
that, if you squoze 130+ mph from a 4-banger diesel, I'd be impressed so
much that I suppose my eyes would water when I raised the hood -- I mean,
bonnet.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:fMGdnUwia9OJhLnbnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing
>them with the Mercedes V-6's.
>
> After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been
> the four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on
> the registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German
> friend...
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:beCdnSf6FbIajrnbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
>>> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
>>> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
>>> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure
>>> of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6
>>> as well.
>>
>> I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in
>> Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder
>> diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo.
>> Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you
>> have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the
>> number of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was
>> nothing under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of
>> taking the plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I
>> don't think it was.
>>
>>>
>>> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said
>>> that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans
>>> Series. They kick ***. I need to re-think my position on them.
>>
>> This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
>> performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car
>> that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph)
>> was an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing
>> still :-)
>>
>>>
>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>>>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
>>>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
>>>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and
>>>> the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week
>>>> has me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big
>>>> time on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had
>>>> great acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
>>>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about
>>>> 34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was
>>>> about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a
>>>> different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once
>>>> did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>>>
>>>> Just thought I'd share...
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ---
>>>> Matt Macchiarolo
>>>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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