Been there done that, I was stationed 150 miles west of you, between
Frankfurt and Luxembourg. So you haven't see the forest for the dead trees?
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:PoadnQqgGMB-lbnbnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com...
> No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:
>
>
http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg



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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure of
> the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 as
> well.

I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in
Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder diesels.
There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo. Many cars
over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you have to request
the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number of cylinders
based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing under the hood
that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the plastic engine
cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it was.

>
> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said that,
> I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans Series.
> They kick ***. I need to re-think my position on them.

This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car
that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was
an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing still
:-)

>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the
>> manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
>> convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time on
>> modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6
>> mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as
>> quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a different
>> sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once did I catch a
>> whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>
>> Just thought I'd share...
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> Matt Macchiarolo
>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>
>>
>>
>

 

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure of
> the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 as
> well.

I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in
Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder diesels.
There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo. Many cars
over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you have to request
the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number of cylinders
based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing under the hood
that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the plastic engine
cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it was.

>
> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said that,
> I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans Series.
> They kick ***. I need to re-think my position on them.

This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car
that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was
an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing still
:-)

>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the
>> manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
>> convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time on
>> modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6
>> mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as
>> quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a different
>> sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once did I catch a
>> whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>
>> Just thought I'd share...
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> Matt Macchiarolo
>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>
>>
>>
>

 

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure of
> the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 as
> well.

I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in
Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder diesels.
There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo. Many cars
over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you have to request
the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number of cylinders
based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing under the hood
that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the plastic engine
cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it was.

>
> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said that,
> I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans Series.
> They kick ***. I need to re-think my position on them.

This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car
that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was
an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing still
:-)

>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the
>> manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
>> convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time on
>> modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6
>> mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as
>> quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a different
>> sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once did I catch a
>> whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>
>> Just thought I'd share...
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> Matt Macchiarolo
>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>
>>
>>
>

 

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure of
> the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 as
> well.

I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in
Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder diesels.
There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo. Many cars
over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you have to request
the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number of cylinders
based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing under the hood
that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the plastic engine
cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it was.

>
> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said that,
> I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans Series.
> They kick ***. I need to re-think my position on them.

This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car
that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was
an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing still
:-)

>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the
>> manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
>> convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time on
>> modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6
>> mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as
>> quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a different
>> sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once did I catch a
>> whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>
>> Just thought I'd share...
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> Matt Macchiarolo
>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>
>>
>>
>

 

We stayed most of the time outside of Schwienfurt, about an hour from
Frankfurt. All the trees I saw were alive. Driving to Salzburg looked like
driving through East Tennessee, with all the conifers.

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:462405c9$0$16277$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Been there done that, I was stationed 150 miles west of you, between
> Frankfurt and Luxembourg. So you haven't see the forest for the dead
> trees?
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:PoadnQqgGMB-lbnbnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:
>>
>>
> http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

 

We stayed most of the time outside of Schwienfurt, about an hour from
Frankfurt. All the trees I saw were alive. Driving to Salzburg looked like
driving through East Tennessee, with all the conifers.

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:462405c9$0$16277$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Been there done that, I was stationed 150 miles west of you, between
> Frankfurt and Luxembourg. So you haven't see the forest for the dead
> trees?
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:PoadnQqgGMB-lbnbnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:
>>
>>
> http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

 

We stayed most of the time outside of Schwienfurt, about an hour from
Frankfurt. All the trees I saw were alive. Driving to Salzburg looked like
driving through East Tennessee, with all the conifers.

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:462405c9$0$16277$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Been there done that, I was stationed 150 miles west of you, between
> Frankfurt and Luxembourg. So you haven't see the forest for the dead
> trees?
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:PoadnQqgGMB-lbnbnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:
>>
>>
> http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

 

We stayed most of the time outside of Schwienfurt, about an hour from
Frankfurt. All the trees I saw were alive. Driving to Salzburg looked like
driving through East Tennessee, with all the conifers.

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:462405c9$0$16277$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Been there done that, I was stationed 150 miles west of you, between
> Frankfurt and Luxembourg. So you haven't see the forest for the dead
> trees?
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:PoadnQqgGMB-lbnbnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:
>>
>>
> http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

 

I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing
them with the Mercedes V-6's.

After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been the
four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on the
registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German friend...

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:beCdnSf6FbIajrnbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
>> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
>> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
>> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure
>> of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6
>> as well.
>
> I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in
> Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder
> diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo.
> Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you
> have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number
> of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing
> under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the
> plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it
> was.
>
>>
>> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said
>> that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans
>> Series. They kick ***. I need to re-think my position on them.
>
> This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
> performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car
> that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was
> an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing
> still :-)
>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
>>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
>>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and
>>> the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has
>>> me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time
>>> on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
>>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
>>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about
>>> 34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was
>>> about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a
>>> different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once
>>> did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>>
>>> Just thought I'd share...
>>>
>>> --
>>> ---
>>> Matt Macchiarolo
>>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>