OT BioDiesel
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In our sabre rattling we are about to open a nuclear test site in
Utah next month, the seven hundred ton is designed to leak a mushroom
cloud, but not radioactive, sure:
http://www.suujournal.com/vnews/disp.../44506c8fc8fd6
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> Yeah, we've perfected it, but only as a weapon... Minor inconveniences
> occur when it is not "contained"... <evil-grin>
>
> Nope, I was talking about *real* fusion, not the snake oil research of
> 'cold' fusion... If it was easy, we would already have it, right?
>
> Yeah, electrolysis is not efficient, but with a cheap enough
> electrical energy source available, it might still be acceptable...
> Maybe more efficient photovoltic array or fusion might give us this
> though... I'm not holding my breath though... Until then, I'm burning
> dyno juice...
>
> And maybe bio-diesel in any diesel that I might own...
Utah next month, the seven hundred ton is designed to leak a mushroom
cloud, but not radioactive, sure:
http://www.suujournal.com/vnews/disp.../44506c8fc8fd6
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> Yeah, we've perfected it, but only as a weapon... Minor inconveniences
> occur when it is not "contained"... <evil-grin>
>
> Nope, I was talking about *real* fusion, not the snake oil research of
> 'cold' fusion... If it was easy, we would already have it, right?
>
> Yeah, electrolysis is not efficient, but with a cheap enough
> electrical energy source available, it might still be acceptable...
> Maybe more efficient photovoltic array or fusion might give us this
> though... I'm not holding my breath though... Until then, I'm burning
> dyno juice...
>
> And maybe bio-diesel in any diesel that I might own...
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In our sabre rattling we are about to open a nuclear test site in
Utah next month, the seven hundred ton is designed to leak a mushroom
cloud, but not radioactive, sure:
http://www.suujournal.com/vnews/disp.../44506c8fc8fd6
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> Yeah, we've perfected it, but only as a weapon... Minor inconveniences
> occur when it is not "contained"... <evil-grin>
>
> Nope, I was talking about *real* fusion, not the snake oil research of
> 'cold' fusion... If it was easy, we would already have it, right?
>
> Yeah, electrolysis is not efficient, but with a cheap enough
> electrical energy source available, it might still be acceptable...
> Maybe more efficient photovoltic array or fusion might give us this
> though... I'm not holding my breath though... Until then, I'm burning
> dyno juice...
>
> And maybe bio-diesel in any diesel that I might own...
Utah next month, the seven hundred ton is designed to leak a mushroom
cloud, but not radioactive, sure:
http://www.suujournal.com/vnews/disp.../44506c8fc8fd6
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> Yeah, we've perfected it, but only as a weapon... Minor inconveniences
> occur when it is not "contained"... <evil-grin>
>
> Nope, I was talking about *real* fusion, not the snake oil research of
> 'cold' fusion... If it was easy, we would already have it, right?
>
> Yeah, electrolysis is not efficient, but with a cheap enough
> electrical energy source available, it might still be acceptable...
> Maybe more efficient photovoltic array or fusion might give us this
> though... I'm not holding my breath though... Until then, I'm burning
> dyno juice...
>
> And maybe bio-diesel in any diesel that I might own...
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>
>> Until the bleeding heart liberal wacko limp democrats let us use
>> nuclear energy, at least to power our homes, gasoline will remain the
>> cheapest fuel we may use.
>
> Once we perfect nuclear *fusion*, we'll be doing great... We'll have
> enough extra energy to use that we can just produce hydrogen from
> water via electrolysis... Converting an internal combustion engine to
> run on hydrogen is not anywhere as complex as developing a fuel
> cell... Of course, we're trading the complexity of developing a fuel
> cell to the complexity of developing nuclear fusion... <grin>
>
Unfortuneately we are still probably 100 years from perfecting fusion.
Fission reactors are a perfectly acceptable substitute in the interim, if
the bleeding heart liberal wacko limp democrats will let us build more. Of
course once oil hits $125 a barrel in three years you'll probably get more
resistance to nuclear energy from the oil & gas industry lobbyists and the
Republicans they're in bed with than the Dems....
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>
>> Until the bleeding heart liberal wacko limp democrats let us use
>> nuclear energy, at least to power our homes, gasoline will remain the
>> cheapest fuel we may use.
>
> Once we perfect nuclear *fusion*, we'll be doing great... We'll have
> enough extra energy to use that we can just produce hydrogen from
> water via electrolysis... Converting an internal combustion engine to
> run on hydrogen is not anywhere as complex as developing a fuel
> cell... Of course, we're trading the complexity of developing a fuel
> cell to the complexity of developing nuclear fusion... <grin>
>
Unfortuneately we are still probably 100 years from perfecting fusion.
Fission reactors are a perfectly acceptable substitute in the interim, if
the bleeding heart liberal wacko limp democrats will let us build more. Of
course once oil hits $125 a barrel in three years you'll probably get more
resistance to nuclear energy from the oil & gas industry lobbyists and the
Republicans they're in bed with than the Dems....
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>
>> Until the bleeding heart liberal wacko limp democrats let us use
>> nuclear energy, at least to power our homes, gasoline will remain the
>> cheapest fuel we may use.
>
> Once we perfect nuclear *fusion*, we'll be doing great... We'll have
> enough extra energy to use that we can just produce hydrogen from
> water via electrolysis... Converting an internal combustion engine to
> run on hydrogen is not anywhere as complex as developing a fuel
> cell... Of course, we're trading the complexity of developing a fuel
> cell to the complexity of developing nuclear fusion... <grin>
>
Unfortuneately we are still probably 100 years from perfecting fusion.
Fission reactors are a perfectly acceptable substitute in the interim, if
the bleeding heart liberal wacko limp democrats will let us build more. Of
course once oil hits $125 a barrel in three years you'll probably get more
resistance to nuclear energy from the oil & gas industry lobbyists and the
Republicans they're in bed with than the Dems....
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If you had enough energy you could mimic and accelerate the process of heat
and pressure, by which petroleum is made from decaying vegetable matter. Of
course, then you would have to worry about thermal pollution, from all the
waste heat that the process would generate. Al Gore and his flatulent cows
would be nothing by comparison.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44603E0B.8E1914B0@***.net...
> You have to obtain the temperature of the Sun to pull that off. As
> soon as someone says cold fusion turn them off as their only purpose is
> to sell another government grant.
> Hydrogen is another fuel that take six times the energy to produce
> as it generates:
> http://witcombe.sbc.edu/water/chemis...ctrolysis.html But maybe
> someday.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Grumman-581 wrote:
> >
> > I always figured that making ethanol from corn and putting it in
> > *cars* was a waste of good liquor... Corn liquor should be put in your
> > *stomach*...
> >
> > Once we perfect nuclear *fusion*, we'll be doing great... We'll have
> > enough extra energy to use that we can just produce hydrogen from
> > water via electrolysis... Converting an internal combustion engine to
> > run on hydrogen is not anywhere as complex as developing a fuel
> > cell... Of course, we're trading the complexity of developing a fuel
> > cell to the complexity of developing nuclear fusion... <grin>
> >
> > Of course, an added advantage of using hydrogen to power our cars is
> > that terrorism would be reduced since without the money from oil, the
> > Mid East would go back to being the *poor* camel ----in' Bedoins that
> > they have been throughout most of their history...
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and pressure, by which petroleum is made from decaying vegetable matter. Of
course, then you would have to worry about thermal pollution, from all the
waste heat that the process would generate. Al Gore and his flatulent cows
would be nothing by comparison.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44603E0B.8E1914B0@***.net...
> You have to obtain the temperature of the Sun to pull that off. As
> soon as someone says cold fusion turn them off as their only purpose is
> to sell another government grant.
> Hydrogen is another fuel that take six times the energy to produce
> as it generates:
> http://witcombe.sbc.edu/water/chemis...ctrolysis.html But maybe
> someday.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Grumman-581 wrote:
> >
> > I always figured that making ethanol from corn and putting it in
> > *cars* was a waste of good liquor... Corn liquor should be put in your
> > *stomach*...
> >
> > Once we perfect nuclear *fusion*, we'll be doing great... We'll have
> > enough extra energy to use that we can just produce hydrogen from
> > water via electrolysis... Converting an internal combustion engine to
> > run on hydrogen is not anywhere as complex as developing a fuel
> > cell... Of course, we're trading the complexity of developing a fuel
> > cell to the complexity of developing nuclear fusion... <grin>
> >
> > Of course, an added advantage of using hydrogen to power our cars is
> > that terrorism would be reduced since without the money from oil, the
> > Mid East would go back to being the *poor* camel ----in' Bedoins that
> > they have been throughout most of their history...
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If you had enough energy you could mimic and accelerate the process of heat
and pressure, by which petroleum is made from decaying vegetable matter. Of
course, then you would have to worry about thermal pollution, from all the
waste heat that the process would generate. Al Gore and his flatulent cows
would be nothing by comparison.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44603E0B.8E1914B0@***.net...
> You have to obtain the temperature of the Sun to pull that off. As
> soon as someone says cold fusion turn them off as their only purpose is
> to sell another government grant.
> Hydrogen is another fuel that take six times the energy to produce
> as it generates:
> http://witcombe.sbc.edu/water/chemis...ctrolysis.html But maybe
> someday.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Grumman-581 wrote:
> >
> > I always figured that making ethanol from corn and putting it in
> > *cars* was a waste of good liquor... Corn liquor should be put in your
> > *stomach*...
> >
> > Once we perfect nuclear *fusion*, we'll be doing great... We'll have
> > enough extra energy to use that we can just produce hydrogen from
> > water via electrolysis... Converting an internal combustion engine to
> > run on hydrogen is not anywhere as complex as developing a fuel
> > cell... Of course, we're trading the complexity of developing a fuel
> > cell to the complexity of developing nuclear fusion... <grin>
> >
> > Of course, an added advantage of using hydrogen to power our cars is
> > that terrorism would be reduced since without the money from oil, the
> > Mid East would go back to being the *poor* camel ----in' Bedoins that
> > they have been throughout most of their history...
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and pressure, by which petroleum is made from decaying vegetable matter. Of
course, then you would have to worry about thermal pollution, from all the
waste heat that the process would generate. Al Gore and his flatulent cows
would be nothing by comparison.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44603E0B.8E1914B0@***.net...
> You have to obtain the temperature of the Sun to pull that off. As
> soon as someone says cold fusion turn them off as their only purpose is
> to sell another government grant.
> Hydrogen is another fuel that take six times the energy to produce
> as it generates:
> http://witcombe.sbc.edu/water/chemis...ctrolysis.html But maybe
> someday.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Grumman-581 wrote:
> >
> > I always figured that making ethanol from corn and putting it in
> > *cars* was a waste of good liquor... Corn liquor should be put in your
> > *stomach*...
> >
> > Once we perfect nuclear *fusion*, we'll be doing great... We'll have
> > enough extra energy to use that we can just produce hydrogen from
> > water via electrolysis... Converting an internal combustion engine to
> > run on hydrogen is not anywhere as complex as developing a fuel
> > cell... Of course, we're trading the complexity of developing a fuel
> > cell to the complexity of developing nuclear fusion... <grin>
> >
> > Of course, an added advantage of using hydrogen to power our cars is
> > that terrorism would be reduced since without the money from oil, the
> > Mid East would go back to being the *poor* camel ----in' Bedoins that
> > they have been throughout most of their history...
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If you had enough energy you could mimic and accelerate the process of heat
and pressure, by which petroleum is made from decaying vegetable matter. Of
course, then you would have to worry about thermal pollution, from all the
waste heat that the process would generate. Al Gore and his flatulent cows
would be nothing by comparison.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44603E0B.8E1914B0@***.net...
> You have to obtain the temperature of the Sun to pull that off. As
> soon as someone says cold fusion turn them off as their only purpose is
> to sell another government grant.
> Hydrogen is another fuel that take six times the energy to produce
> as it generates:
> http://witcombe.sbc.edu/water/chemis...ctrolysis.html But maybe
> someday.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Grumman-581 wrote:
> >
> > I always figured that making ethanol from corn and putting it in
> > *cars* was a waste of good liquor... Corn liquor should be put in your
> > *stomach*...
> >
> > Once we perfect nuclear *fusion*, we'll be doing great... We'll have
> > enough extra energy to use that we can just produce hydrogen from
> > water via electrolysis... Converting an internal combustion engine to
> > run on hydrogen is not anywhere as complex as developing a fuel
> > cell... Of course, we're trading the complexity of developing a fuel
> > cell to the complexity of developing nuclear fusion... <grin>
> >
> > Of course, an added advantage of using hydrogen to power our cars is
> > that terrorism would be reduced since without the money from oil, the
> > Mid East would go back to being the *poor* camel ----in' Bedoins that
> > they have been throughout most of their history...
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and pressure, by which petroleum is made from decaying vegetable matter. Of
course, then you would have to worry about thermal pollution, from all the
waste heat that the process would generate. Al Gore and his flatulent cows
would be nothing by comparison.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44603E0B.8E1914B0@***.net...
> You have to obtain the temperature of the Sun to pull that off. As
> soon as someone says cold fusion turn them off as their only purpose is
> to sell another government grant.
> Hydrogen is another fuel that take six times the energy to produce
> as it generates:
> http://witcombe.sbc.edu/water/chemis...ctrolysis.html But maybe
> someday.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Grumman-581 wrote:
> >
> > I always figured that making ethanol from corn and putting it in
> > *cars* was a waste of good liquor... Corn liquor should be put in your
> > *stomach*...
> >
> > Once we perfect nuclear *fusion*, we'll be doing great... We'll have
> > enough extra energy to use that we can just produce hydrogen from
> > water via electrolysis... Converting an internal combustion engine to
> > run on hydrogen is not anywhere as complex as developing a fuel
> > cell... Of course, we're trading the complexity of developing a fuel
> > cell to the complexity of developing nuclear fusion... <grin>
> >
> > Of course, an added advantage of using hydrogen to power our cars is
> > that terrorism would be reduced since without the money from oil, the
> > Mid East would go back to being the *poor* camel ----in' Bedoins that
> > they have been throughout most of their history...
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What ever happened to the Acetone Fuel additive testing that was going on a
while back?
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44609150$0$29279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> If you had enough energy you could mimic and accelerate the process of
> heat
> and pressure, by which petroleum is made from decaying vegetable matter.
> Of
> course, then you would have to worry about thermal pollution, from all the
> waste heat that the process would generate. Al Gore and his flatulent
> cows
> would be nothing by comparison.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44603E0B.8E1914B0@***.net...
>> You have to obtain the temperature of the Sun to pull that off. As
>> soon as someone says cold fusion turn them off as their only purpose is
>> to sell another government grant.
>> Hydrogen is another fuel that take six times the energy to produce
>> as it generates:
>> http://witcombe.sbc.edu/water/chemis...ctrolysis.html But maybe
>> someday.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Grumman-581 wrote:
>> >
>> > I always figured that making ethanol from corn and putting it in
>> > *cars* was a waste of good liquor... Corn liquor should be put in your
>> > *stomach*...
>> >
>> > Once we perfect nuclear *fusion*, we'll be doing great... We'll have
>> > enough extra energy to use that we can just produce hydrogen from
>> > water via electrolysis... Converting an internal combustion engine to
>> > run on hydrogen is not anywhere as complex as developing a fuel
>> > cell... Of course, we're trading the complexity of developing a fuel
>> > cell to the complexity of developing nuclear fusion... <grin>
>> >
>> > Of course, an added advantage of using hydrogen to power our cars is
>> > that terrorism would be reduced since without the money from oil, the
>> > Mid East would go back to being the *poor* camel ----in' Bedoins that
>> > they have been throughout most of their history...
>
>
>
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while back?
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44609150$0$29279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> If you had enough energy you could mimic and accelerate the process of
> heat
> and pressure, by which petroleum is made from decaying vegetable matter.
> Of
> course, then you would have to worry about thermal pollution, from all the
> waste heat that the process would generate. Al Gore and his flatulent
> cows
> would be nothing by comparison.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44603E0B.8E1914B0@***.net...
>> You have to obtain the temperature of the Sun to pull that off. As
>> soon as someone says cold fusion turn them off as their only purpose is
>> to sell another government grant.
>> Hydrogen is another fuel that take six times the energy to produce
>> as it generates:
>> http://witcombe.sbc.edu/water/chemis...ctrolysis.html But maybe
>> someday.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Grumman-581 wrote:
>> >
>> > I always figured that making ethanol from corn and putting it in
>> > *cars* was a waste of good liquor... Corn liquor should be put in your
>> > *stomach*...
>> >
>> > Once we perfect nuclear *fusion*, we'll be doing great... We'll have
>> > enough extra energy to use that we can just produce hydrogen from
>> > water via electrolysis... Converting an internal combustion engine to
>> > run on hydrogen is not anywhere as complex as developing a fuel
>> > cell... Of course, we're trading the complexity of developing a fuel
>> > cell to the complexity of developing nuclear fusion... <grin>
>> >
>> > Of course, an added advantage of using hydrogen to power our cars is
>> > that terrorism would be reduced since without the money from oil, the
>> > Mid East would go back to being the *poor* camel ----in' Bedoins that
>> > they have been throughout most of their history...
>
>
>
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What ever happened to the Acetone Fuel additive testing that was going on a
while back?
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44609150$0$29279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> If you had enough energy you could mimic and accelerate the process of
> heat
> and pressure, by which petroleum is made from decaying vegetable matter.
> Of
> course, then you would have to worry about thermal pollution, from all the
> waste heat that the process would generate. Al Gore and his flatulent
> cows
> would be nothing by comparison.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44603E0B.8E1914B0@***.net...
>> You have to obtain the temperature of the Sun to pull that off. As
>> soon as someone says cold fusion turn them off as their only purpose is
>> to sell another government grant.
>> Hydrogen is another fuel that take six times the energy to produce
>> as it generates:
>> http://witcombe.sbc.edu/water/chemis...ctrolysis.html But maybe
>> someday.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Grumman-581 wrote:
>> >
>> > I always figured that making ethanol from corn and putting it in
>> > *cars* was a waste of good liquor... Corn liquor should be put in your
>> > *stomach*...
>> >
>> > Once we perfect nuclear *fusion*, we'll be doing great... We'll have
>> > enough extra energy to use that we can just produce hydrogen from
>> > water via electrolysis... Converting an internal combustion engine to
>> > run on hydrogen is not anywhere as complex as developing a fuel
>> > cell... Of course, we're trading the complexity of developing a fuel
>> > cell to the complexity of developing nuclear fusion... <grin>
>> >
>> > Of course, an added advantage of using hydrogen to power our cars is
>> > that terrorism would be reduced since without the money from oil, the
>> > Mid East would go back to being the *poor* camel ----in' Bedoins that
>> > they have been throughout most of their history...
>
>
>
> *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
while back?
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44609150$0$29279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> If you had enough energy you could mimic and accelerate the process of
> heat
> and pressure, by which petroleum is made from decaying vegetable matter.
> Of
> course, then you would have to worry about thermal pollution, from all the
> waste heat that the process would generate. Al Gore and his flatulent
> cows
> would be nothing by comparison.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44603E0B.8E1914B0@***.net...
>> You have to obtain the temperature of the Sun to pull that off. As
>> soon as someone says cold fusion turn them off as their only purpose is
>> to sell another government grant.
>> Hydrogen is another fuel that take six times the energy to produce
>> as it generates:
>> http://witcombe.sbc.edu/water/chemis...ctrolysis.html But maybe
>> someday.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Grumman-581 wrote:
>> >
>> > I always figured that making ethanol from corn and putting it in
>> > *cars* was a waste of good liquor... Corn liquor should be put in your
>> > *stomach*...
>> >
>> > Once we perfect nuclear *fusion*, we'll be doing great... We'll have
>> > enough extra energy to use that we can just produce hydrogen from
>> > water via electrolysis... Converting an internal combustion engine to
>> > run on hydrogen is not anywhere as complex as developing a fuel
>> > cell... Of course, we're trading the complexity of developing a fuel
>> > cell to the complexity of developing nuclear fusion... <grin>
>> >
>> > Of course, an added advantage of using hydrogen to power our cars is
>> > that terrorism would be reduced since without the money from oil, the
>> > Mid East would go back to being the *poor* camel ----in' Bedoins that
>> > they have been throughout most of their history...
>
>
>
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