OT: ATV Rage
09-17-2006, 11:54 AM
#51
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Re: OT: ATV Rage
"Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
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>A noise activated land mine would be nice !
(not a reply to dave specifically)
i understand the sentiment (strategically placed wires, etc.) but keep in
mind that for every ------- ATV rider who is trespassing on purpose, there
are many more who trespass completely unknowingly. many trail systems are
poorly marked. its easy to get confused and way off course (especially in
vast rural areas). it could also be an LEO on an ATV who is on your
property without your permission looking for a missing child......or perhaps
chasing a really bad guy. instead of booby trapping your property (placing
the innocent at risk of injury, and your self at great liability), proper
fencing will do the trick.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
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news:_bdPg.20395$r61.12332@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>A noise activated land mine would be nice !
(not a reply to dave specifically)
i understand the sentiment (strategically placed wires, etc.) but keep in
mind that for every ------- ATV rider who is trespassing on purpose, there
are many more who trespass completely unknowingly. many trail systems are
poorly marked. its easy to get confused and way off course (especially in
vast rural areas). it could also be an LEO on an ATV who is on your
property without your permission looking for a missing child......or perhaps
chasing a really bad guy. instead of booby trapping your property (placing
the innocent at risk of injury, and your self at great liability), proper
fencing will do the trick.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Carry.com
http://GlockCarry.com
09-17-2006, 11:54 AM
#52
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Re: OT: ATV Rage
"Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
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>A noise activated land mine would be nice !
(not a reply to dave specifically)
i understand the sentiment (strategically placed wires, etc.) but keep in
mind that for every ------- ATV rider who is trespassing on purpose, there
are many more who trespass completely unknowingly. many trail systems are
poorly marked. its easy to get confused and way off course (especially in
vast rural areas). it could also be an LEO on an ATV who is on your
property without your permission looking for a missing child......or perhaps
chasing a really bad guy. instead of booby trapping your property (placing
the innocent at risk of injury, and your self at great liability), proper
fencing will do the trick.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Carry.com
http://GlockCarry.com
news:_bdPg.20395$r61.12332@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>A noise activated land mine would be nice !
(not a reply to dave specifically)
i understand the sentiment (strategically placed wires, etc.) but keep in
mind that for every ------- ATV rider who is trespassing on purpose, there
are many more who trespass completely unknowingly. many trail systems are
poorly marked. its easy to get confused and way off course (especially in
vast rural areas). it could also be an LEO on an ATV who is on your
property without your permission looking for a missing child......or perhaps
chasing a really bad guy. instead of booby trapping your property (placing
the innocent at risk of injury, and your self at great liability), proper
fencing will do the trick.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Carry.com
http://GlockCarry.com
09-17-2006, 01:13 PM
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Re: OT: ATV Rage
I agree. Build a big fence, walk softly, and carry a .45.
Carl
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> news:_bdPg.20395$r61.12332@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>>A noise activated land mine would be nice !
>
> (not a reply to dave specifically)
>
> i understand the sentiment (strategically placed wires, etc.) but keep in
> mind that for every ------- ATV rider who is trespassing on purpose, there
> are many more who trespass completely unknowingly. many trail systems are
> poorly marked. its easy to get confused and way off course (especially in
> vast rural areas). it could also be an LEO on an ATV who is on your
> property without your permission looking for a missing child......or
> perhaps chasing a really bad guy. instead of booby trapping your property
> (placing the innocent at risk of injury, and your self at great
> liability), proper fencing will do the trick.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Carry.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
Carl
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:450d6fc4$0$34073$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> news:_bdPg.20395$r61.12332@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>>A noise activated land mine would be nice !
>
> (not a reply to dave specifically)
>
> i understand the sentiment (strategically placed wires, etc.) but keep in
> mind that for every ------- ATV rider who is trespassing on purpose, there
> are many more who trespass completely unknowingly. many trail systems are
> poorly marked. its easy to get confused and way off course (especially in
> vast rural areas). it could also be an LEO on an ATV who is on your
> property without your permission looking for a missing child......or
> perhaps chasing a really bad guy. instead of booby trapping your property
> (placing the innocent at risk of injury, and your self at great
> liability), proper fencing will do the trick.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Carry.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
09-17-2006, 01:13 PM
#54
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Re: OT: ATV Rage
I agree. Build a big fence, walk softly, and carry a .45.
Carl
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:450d6fc4$0$34073$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> news:_bdPg.20395$r61.12332@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>>A noise activated land mine would be nice !
>
> (not a reply to dave specifically)
>
> i understand the sentiment (strategically placed wires, etc.) but keep in
> mind that for every ------- ATV rider who is trespassing on purpose, there
> are many more who trespass completely unknowingly. many trail systems are
> poorly marked. its easy to get confused and way off course (especially in
> vast rural areas). it could also be an LEO on an ATV who is on your
> property without your permission looking for a missing child......or
> perhaps chasing a really bad guy. instead of booby trapping your property
> (placing the innocent at risk of injury, and your self at great
> liability), proper fencing will do the trick.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Carry.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
Carl
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:450d6fc4$0$34073$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> news:_bdPg.20395$r61.12332@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>>A noise activated land mine would be nice !
>
> (not a reply to dave specifically)
>
> i understand the sentiment (strategically placed wires, etc.) but keep in
> mind that for every ------- ATV rider who is trespassing on purpose, there
> are many more who trespass completely unknowingly. many trail systems are
> poorly marked. its easy to get confused and way off course (especially in
> vast rural areas). it could also be an LEO on an ATV who is on your
> property without your permission looking for a missing child......or
> perhaps chasing a really bad guy. instead of booby trapping your property
> (placing the innocent at risk of injury, and your self at great
> liability), proper fencing will do the trick.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Carry.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
09-17-2006, 01:13 PM
#55
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Re: OT: ATV Rage
I agree. Build a big fence, walk softly, and carry a .45.
Carl
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:450d6fc4$0$34073$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> news:_bdPg.20395$r61.12332@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>>A noise activated land mine would be nice !
>
> (not a reply to dave specifically)
>
> i understand the sentiment (strategically placed wires, etc.) but keep in
> mind that for every ------- ATV rider who is trespassing on purpose, there
> are many more who trespass completely unknowingly. many trail systems are
> poorly marked. its easy to get confused and way off course (especially in
> vast rural areas). it could also be an LEO on an ATV who is on your
> property without your permission looking for a missing child......or
> perhaps chasing a really bad guy. instead of booby trapping your property
> (placing the innocent at risk of injury, and your self at great
> liability), proper fencing will do the trick.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Carry.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
Carl
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:450d6fc4$0$34073$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> news:_bdPg.20395$r61.12332@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>>A noise activated land mine would be nice !
>
> (not a reply to dave specifically)
>
> i understand the sentiment (strategically placed wires, etc.) but keep in
> mind that for every ------- ATV rider who is trespassing on purpose, there
> are many more who trespass completely unknowingly. many trail systems are
> poorly marked. its easy to get confused and way off course (especially in
> vast rural areas). it could also be an LEO on an ATV who is on your
> property without your permission looking for a missing child......or
> perhaps chasing a really bad guy. instead of booby trapping your property
> (placing the innocent at risk of injury, and your self at great
> liability), proper fencing will do the trick.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Carry.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
09-17-2006, 01:52 PM
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Re: OT: ATV Rage
More likely to be effective with a .264 Winchester or 7mm Remington
Magnum and a long bull barrel. Lacking a .50 Cal sniper of course.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> A thirty aught six, zeroed for a thousand yards.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>In Colorado the state constitution theoretically gives one the
>>right to shoot trespassers on private property, but because of
>>liberal influences in the legislature you do have to fence it and
>>put up signs, before you can shoot them. I don't want to see the
>>entire valley fenced in, but barbed wire does have a certain
>>"Western" look and charm to it. What height would you suggest for
>>optimal effect against ATVs and riders?
>>
>>Earle
09-17-2006, 01:52 PM
#57
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Re: OT: ATV Rage
More likely to be effective with a .264 Winchester or 7mm Remington
Magnum and a long bull barrel. Lacking a .50 Cal sniper of course.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> A thirty aught six, zeroed for a thousand yards.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>In Colorado the state constitution theoretically gives one the
>>right to shoot trespassers on private property, but because of
>>liberal influences in the legislature you do have to fence it and
>>put up signs, before you can shoot them. I don't want to see the
>>entire valley fenced in, but barbed wire does have a certain
>>"Western" look and charm to it. What height would you suggest for
>>optimal effect against ATVs and riders?
>>
>>Earle
09-17-2006, 01:52 PM
#58
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Re: OT: ATV Rage
More likely to be effective with a .264 Winchester or 7mm Remington
Magnum and a long bull barrel. Lacking a .50 Cal sniper of course.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> A thirty aught six, zeroed for a thousand yards.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>In Colorado the state constitution theoretically gives one the
>>right to shoot trespassers on private property, but because of
>>liberal influences in the legislature you do have to fence it and
>>put up signs, before you can shoot them. I don't want to see the
>>entire valley fenced in, but barbed wire does have a certain
>>"Western" look and charm to it. What height would you suggest for
>>optimal effect against ATVs and riders?
>>
>>Earle
09-17-2006, 05:39 PM
#59
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Re: OT: ATV Rage
good point.
Dave
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> news:_bdPg.20395$r61.12332@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> >A noise activated land mine would be nice !
>
> (not a reply to dave specifically)
>
> i understand the sentiment (strategically placed wires, etc.) but keep in
> mind that for every ------- ATV rider who is trespassing on purpose, there
> are many more who trespass completely unknowingly. many trail systems are
> poorly marked. its easy to get confused and way off course (especially in
> vast rural areas). it could also be an LEO on an ATV who is on your
> property without your permission looking for a missing child......or
perhaps
> chasing a really bad guy. instead of booby trapping your property
(placing
> the innocent at risk of injury, and your self at great liability), proper
> fencing will do the trick.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Carry.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
>
Dave
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:450d6fc4$0$34073$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> news:_bdPg.20395$r61.12332@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> >A noise activated land mine would be nice !
>
> (not a reply to dave specifically)
>
> i understand the sentiment (strategically placed wires, etc.) but keep in
> mind that for every ------- ATV rider who is trespassing on purpose, there
> are many more who trespass completely unknowingly. many trail systems are
> poorly marked. its easy to get confused and way off course (especially in
> vast rural areas). it could also be an LEO on an ATV who is on your
> property without your permission looking for a missing child......or
perhaps
> chasing a really bad guy. instead of booby trapping your property
(placing
> the innocent at risk of injury, and your self at great liability), proper
> fencing will do the trick.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Carry.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
>
09-17-2006, 05:39 PM
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Re: OT: ATV Rage
good point.
Dave
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:450d6fc4$0$34073$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> news:_bdPg.20395$r61.12332@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> >A noise activated land mine would be nice !
>
> (not a reply to dave specifically)
>
> i understand the sentiment (strategically placed wires, etc.) but keep in
> mind that for every ------- ATV rider who is trespassing on purpose, there
> are many more who trespass completely unknowingly. many trail systems are
> poorly marked. its easy to get confused and way off course (especially in
> vast rural areas). it could also be an LEO on an ATV who is on your
> property without your permission looking for a missing child......or
perhaps
> chasing a really bad guy. instead of booby trapping your property
(placing
> the innocent at risk of injury, and your self at great liability), proper
> fencing will do the trick.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Carry.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
>
Dave
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:450d6fc4$0$34073$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> "Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
> news:_bdPg.20395$r61.12332@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> >A noise activated land mine would be nice !
>
> (not a reply to dave specifically)
>
> i understand the sentiment (strategically placed wires, etc.) but keep in
> mind that for every ------- ATV rider who is trespassing on purpose, there
> are many more who trespass completely unknowingly. many trail systems are
> poorly marked. its easy to get confused and way off course (especially in
> vast rural areas). it could also be an LEO on an ATV who is on your
> property without your permission looking for a missing child......or
perhaps
> chasing a really bad guy. instead of booby trapping your property
(placing
> the innocent at risk of injury, and your self at great liability), proper
> fencing will do the trick.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
> http://1911Carry.com
> http://GlockCarry.com
>
>