OT. anyone know of good info on explorers?
03-20-2006, 10:09 PM
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Re: OT. anyone know of good info on explorers?
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> That's the blue oval (ford) explorers.. My xj is just about dead...the
> leaky gas tank, bad wheel bearing, rusted rockers, broken leaf, bent front
> end (from a deer incident 6 yrs ago), leaky roof (yes its from the roof,
> lots of fiberglass patches) and many other little things.. its due for
> retirement..
>
> Any I was/am looking at a 1994 explorer, and was just wondering if anyone
> happens to know of some good sites to read up on them.. google spews forth
> a million but some closet ford fanatic here may be able to shorten the
> list..... (Bill ???)
>
> Snow...
>
This particular model came equipped with the A4LD tranny which is a document
POS. Go to the alt.rec.autos.explorer and see for yourself. It is a french
tranny based on the C3 POS.
Jim
>
>
03-20-2006, 10:09 PM
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Re: OT. anyone know of good info on explorers?
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> That's the blue oval (ford) explorers.. My xj is just about dead...the
> leaky gas tank, bad wheel bearing, rusted rockers, broken leaf, bent front
> end (from a deer incident 6 yrs ago), leaky roof (yes its from the roof,
> lots of fiberglass patches) and many other little things.. its due for
> retirement..
>
> Any I was/am looking at a 1994 explorer, and was just wondering if anyone
> happens to know of some good sites to read up on them.. google spews forth
> a million but some closet ford fanatic here may be able to shorten the
> list..... (Bill ???)
>
> Snow...
>
This particular model came equipped with the A4LD tranny which is a document
POS. Go to the alt.rec.autos.explorer and see for yourself. It is a french
tranny based on the C3 POS.
Jim
>
>
03-20-2006, 10:09 PM
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Re: OT. anyone know of good info on explorers?
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> That's the blue oval (ford) explorers.. My xj is just about dead...the
> leaky gas tank, bad wheel bearing, rusted rockers, broken leaf, bent front
> end (from a deer incident 6 yrs ago), leaky roof (yes its from the roof,
> lots of fiberglass patches) and many other little things.. its due for
> retirement..
>
> Any I was/am looking at a 1994 explorer, and was just wondering if anyone
> happens to know of some good sites to read up on them.. google spews forth
> a million but some closet ford fanatic here may be able to shorten the
> list..... (Bill ???)
>
> Snow...
>
This particular model came equipped with the A4LD tranny which is a document
POS. Go to the alt.rec.autos.explorer and see for yourself. It is a french
tranny based on the C3 POS.
Jim
>
>
03-21-2006, 01:22 AM
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Re: OT. anyone know of good info on explorers?
In article <tTATf.2328$qX6.52426@news20.bellglobal.com>,
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> That's the blue oval (ford) explorers.. My xj is just about dead...the
> leaky gas tank, bad wheel bearing, rusted rockers, broken leaf, bent front
> end (from a deer incident 6 yrs ago), leaky roof (yes its from the roof,
> lots of fiberglass patches) and many other little things.. its due for
> retirement..
>
> Any I was/am looking at a 1994 explorer, and was just wondering if anyone
> happens to know of some good sites to read up on them.. google spews forth a
> million but some closet ford fanatic here may be able to shorten the
> list..... (Bill ???)
>
> Snow...
On usenet you generally hear only the bad anecdotes. How about this in
contrast: One of my kids is still driving my wife's '91 Explorer with
~140K miles on it without engine or tranny work, the other kid is
driving my mother's '93 (only 40K, mom preferred the land yacht in her
last 5 years, didn't drive it). The '93 has needed new front rotors.
Both suffered from poor muffler design leading to multiple muffler
replacements. In the meantime I've gone throuth a '91 explorer with
manual tranny needing warranty work at 40K, handed on to kid at 70K and
eventually dumped at >90K, a '97 wrangler dumped at 70K when it needed
front end work, and 3 years of a Liberty. The problem with Explorers is
the same as with any other make; the longer they're on the market the
more upscale they get, and adding gizmos just adds a potential for
unreliability. (I'd really like my '81 wagoneer with a stick back - now
where did I leave that allen wrench for the door handle?) Try
<nntp:rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer>.
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> That's the blue oval (ford) explorers.. My xj is just about dead...the
> leaky gas tank, bad wheel bearing, rusted rockers, broken leaf, bent front
> end (from a deer incident 6 yrs ago), leaky roof (yes its from the roof,
> lots of fiberglass patches) and many other little things.. its due for
> retirement..
>
> Any I was/am looking at a 1994 explorer, and was just wondering if anyone
> happens to know of some good sites to read up on them.. google spews forth a
> million but some closet ford fanatic here may be able to shorten the
> list..... (Bill ???)
>
> Snow...
On usenet you generally hear only the bad anecdotes. How about this in
contrast: One of my kids is still driving my wife's '91 Explorer with
~140K miles on it without engine or tranny work, the other kid is
driving my mother's '93 (only 40K, mom preferred the land yacht in her
last 5 years, didn't drive it). The '93 has needed new front rotors.
Both suffered from poor muffler design leading to multiple muffler
replacements. In the meantime I've gone throuth a '91 explorer with
manual tranny needing warranty work at 40K, handed on to kid at 70K and
eventually dumped at >90K, a '97 wrangler dumped at 70K when it needed
front end work, and 3 years of a Liberty. The problem with Explorers is
the same as with any other make; the longer they're on the market the
more upscale they get, and adding gizmos just adds a potential for
unreliability. (I'd really like my '81 wagoneer with a stick back - now
where did I leave that allen wrench for the door handle?) Try
<nntp:rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer>.
03-21-2006, 01:22 AM
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Re: OT. anyone know of good info on explorers?
In article <tTATf.2328$qX6.52426@news20.bellglobal.com>,
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> That's the blue oval (ford) explorers.. My xj is just about dead...the
> leaky gas tank, bad wheel bearing, rusted rockers, broken leaf, bent front
> end (from a deer incident 6 yrs ago), leaky roof (yes its from the roof,
> lots of fiberglass patches) and many other little things.. its due for
> retirement..
>
> Any I was/am looking at a 1994 explorer, and was just wondering if anyone
> happens to know of some good sites to read up on them.. google spews forth a
> million but some closet ford fanatic here may be able to shorten the
> list..... (Bill ???)
>
> Snow...
On usenet you generally hear only the bad anecdotes. How about this in
contrast: One of my kids is still driving my wife's '91 Explorer with
~140K miles on it without engine or tranny work, the other kid is
driving my mother's '93 (only 40K, mom preferred the land yacht in her
last 5 years, didn't drive it). The '93 has needed new front rotors.
Both suffered from poor muffler design leading to multiple muffler
replacements. In the meantime I've gone throuth a '91 explorer with
manual tranny needing warranty work at 40K, handed on to kid at 70K and
eventually dumped at >90K, a '97 wrangler dumped at 70K when it needed
front end work, and 3 years of a Liberty. The problem with Explorers is
the same as with any other make; the longer they're on the market the
more upscale they get, and adding gizmos just adds a potential for
unreliability. (I'd really like my '81 wagoneer with a stick back - now
where did I leave that allen wrench for the door handle?) Try
<nntp:rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer>.
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> That's the blue oval (ford) explorers.. My xj is just about dead...the
> leaky gas tank, bad wheel bearing, rusted rockers, broken leaf, bent front
> end (from a deer incident 6 yrs ago), leaky roof (yes its from the roof,
> lots of fiberglass patches) and many other little things.. its due for
> retirement..
>
> Any I was/am looking at a 1994 explorer, and was just wondering if anyone
> happens to know of some good sites to read up on them.. google spews forth a
> million but some closet ford fanatic here may be able to shorten the
> list..... (Bill ???)
>
> Snow...
On usenet you generally hear only the bad anecdotes. How about this in
contrast: One of my kids is still driving my wife's '91 Explorer with
~140K miles on it without engine or tranny work, the other kid is
driving my mother's '93 (only 40K, mom preferred the land yacht in her
last 5 years, didn't drive it). The '93 has needed new front rotors.
Both suffered from poor muffler design leading to multiple muffler
replacements. In the meantime I've gone throuth a '91 explorer with
manual tranny needing warranty work at 40K, handed on to kid at 70K and
eventually dumped at >90K, a '97 wrangler dumped at 70K when it needed
front end work, and 3 years of a Liberty. The problem with Explorers is
the same as with any other make; the longer they're on the market the
more upscale they get, and adding gizmos just adds a potential for
unreliability. (I'd really like my '81 wagoneer with a stick back - now
where did I leave that allen wrench for the door handle?) Try
<nntp:rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer>.
03-21-2006, 01:22 AM
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Re: OT. anyone know of good info on explorers?
In article <tTATf.2328$qX6.52426@news20.bellglobal.com>,
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> That's the blue oval (ford) explorers.. My xj is just about dead...the
> leaky gas tank, bad wheel bearing, rusted rockers, broken leaf, bent front
> end (from a deer incident 6 yrs ago), leaky roof (yes its from the roof,
> lots of fiberglass patches) and many other little things.. its due for
> retirement..
>
> Any I was/am looking at a 1994 explorer, and was just wondering if anyone
> happens to know of some good sites to read up on them.. google spews forth a
> million but some closet ford fanatic here may be able to shorten the
> list..... (Bill ???)
>
> Snow...
On usenet you generally hear only the bad anecdotes. How about this in
contrast: One of my kids is still driving my wife's '91 Explorer with
~140K miles on it without engine or tranny work, the other kid is
driving my mother's '93 (only 40K, mom preferred the land yacht in her
last 5 years, didn't drive it). The '93 has needed new front rotors.
Both suffered from poor muffler design leading to multiple muffler
replacements. In the meantime I've gone throuth a '91 explorer with
manual tranny needing warranty work at 40K, handed on to kid at 70K and
eventually dumped at >90K, a '97 wrangler dumped at 70K when it needed
front end work, and 3 years of a Liberty. The problem with Explorers is
the same as with any other make; the longer they're on the market the
more upscale they get, and adding gizmos just adds a potential for
unreliability. (I'd really like my '81 wagoneer with a stick back - now
where did I leave that allen wrench for the door handle?) Try
<nntp:rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer>.
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> That's the blue oval (ford) explorers.. My xj is just about dead...the
> leaky gas tank, bad wheel bearing, rusted rockers, broken leaf, bent front
> end (from a deer incident 6 yrs ago), leaky roof (yes its from the roof,
> lots of fiberglass patches) and many other little things.. its due for
> retirement..
>
> Any I was/am looking at a 1994 explorer, and was just wondering if anyone
> happens to know of some good sites to read up on them.. google spews forth a
> million but some closet ford fanatic here may be able to shorten the
> list..... (Bill ???)
>
> Snow...
On usenet you generally hear only the bad anecdotes. How about this in
contrast: One of my kids is still driving my wife's '91 Explorer with
~140K miles on it without engine or tranny work, the other kid is
driving my mother's '93 (only 40K, mom preferred the land yacht in her
last 5 years, didn't drive it). The '93 has needed new front rotors.
Both suffered from poor muffler design leading to multiple muffler
replacements. In the meantime I've gone throuth a '91 explorer with
manual tranny needing warranty work at 40K, handed on to kid at 70K and
eventually dumped at >90K, a '97 wrangler dumped at 70K when it needed
front end work, and 3 years of a Liberty. The problem with Explorers is
the same as with any other make; the longer they're on the market the
more upscale they get, and adding gizmos just adds a potential for
unreliability. (I'd really like my '81 wagoneer with a stick back - now
where did I leave that allen wrench for the door handle?) Try
<nntp:rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer>.
03-21-2006, 01:22 AM
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Re: OT. anyone know of good info on explorers?
In article <tTATf.2328$qX6.52426@news20.bellglobal.com>,
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> That's the blue oval (ford) explorers.. My xj is just about dead...the
> leaky gas tank, bad wheel bearing, rusted rockers, broken leaf, bent front
> end (from a deer incident 6 yrs ago), leaky roof (yes its from the roof,
> lots of fiberglass patches) and many other little things.. its due for
> retirement..
>
> Any I was/am looking at a 1994 explorer, and was just wondering if anyone
> happens to know of some good sites to read up on them.. google spews forth a
> million but some closet ford fanatic here may be able to shorten the
> list..... (Bill ???)
>
> Snow...
On usenet you generally hear only the bad anecdotes. How about this in
contrast: One of my kids is still driving my wife's '91 Explorer with
~140K miles on it without engine or tranny work, the other kid is
driving my mother's '93 (only 40K, mom preferred the land yacht in her
last 5 years, didn't drive it). The '93 has needed new front rotors.
Both suffered from poor muffler design leading to multiple muffler
replacements. In the meantime I've gone throuth a '91 explorer with
manual tranny needing warranty work at 40K, handed on to kid at 70K and
eventually dumped at >90K, a '97 wrangler dumped at 70K when it needed
front end work, and 3 years of a Liberty. The problem with Explorers is
the same as with any other make; the longer they're on the market the
more upscale they get, and adding gizmos just adds a potential for
unreliability. (I'd really like my '81 wagoneer with a stick back - now
where did I leave that allen wrench for the door handle?) Try
<nntp:rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer>.
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> That's the blue oval (ford) explorers.. My xj is just about dead...the
> leaky gas tank, bad wheel bearing, rusted rockers, broken leaf, bent front
> end (from a deer incident 6 yrs ago), leaky roof (yes its from the roof,
> lots of fiberglass patches) and many other little things.. its due for
> retirement..
>
> Any I was/am looking at a 1994 explorer, and was just wondering if anyone
> happens to know of some good sites to read up on them.. google spews forth a
> million but some closet ford fanatic here may be able to shorten the
> list..... (Bill ???)
>
> Snow...
On usenet you generally hear only the bad anecdotes. How about this in
contrast: One of my kids is still driving my wife's '91 Explorer with
~140K miles on it without engine or tranny work, the other kid is
driving my mother's '93 (only 40K, mom preferred the land yacht in her
last 5 years, didn't drive it). The '93 has needed new front rotors.
Both suffered from poor muffler design leading to multiple muffler
replacements. In the meantime I've gone throuth a '91 explorer with
manual tranny needing warranty work at 40K, handed on to kid at 70K and
eventually dumped at >90K, a '97 wrangler dumped at 70K when it needed
front end work, and 3 years of a Liberty. The problem with Explorers is
the same as with any other make; the longer they're on the market the
more upscale they get, and adding gizmos just adds a potential for
unreliability. (I'd really like my '81 wagoneer with a stick back - now
where did I leave that allen wrench for the door handle?) Try
<nntp:rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer>.
03-21-2006, 10:53 AM
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Re: OT. anyone know of good info on explorers?
"Big Country" <xxjeepxxxwranglerx@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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:
: "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: news:tTATf.2328$qX6.52426@news20.bellglobal.com...
: > That's the blue oval (ford) explorers.. My xj is just about dead...the
: > leaky gas tank, bad wheel bearing, rusted rockers, broken leaf, bent
front
: > end (from a deer incident 6 yrs ago), leaky roof (yes its from the
roof,
: > lots of fiberglass patches) and many other little things.. its due for
: > retirement..
: >
: > Any I was/am looking at a 1994 explorer, and was just wondering if
anyone
: > happens to know of some good sites to read up on them.. google spews
forth
: > a million but some closet ford fanatic here may be able to shorten the
: > list..... (Bill ???)
: >
: > Snow...
: >
: This particular model came equipped with the A4LD tranny which is a
document
: POS. Go to the alt.rec.autos.explorer and see for yourself. It is a french
: tranny based on the C3 POS.
: Jim
: >
:
I custom ordered a brand new 2 door sport in 94.
5 speed, 4wd. It was comfortable but there were things that made me get rid
of it fast.
The brakes were scary. If traveling a long distance and then braking say at
a stop sign or going downhill coming home from Tahoe, it would jerk hard
right. Frightening when on the side facing a 600ft ravine.
Dealership never found the problem.
The transmission was not great either. The synchros were out of whack from
early on in the game. Sometimes you couldn't get it into gear to save your
life.other times it would pop out as if someone had hit the shifter. Again,
could not duplicate at the service department.
You might want have a good mechanic give it the once over and take it for a
nice long test drive before you buy it.
Try the brakes, get up to 45-50 mph and slam em - like an emergency stop and
see how it responds.
I'll bet that for the same money you could find a good used Cherokee, a much
better vehicle.
My experience with this vehicle was what made me go for the Liberty when
looking for something similar this time.
JMO
KJK
03-21-2006, 10:53 AM
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Re: OT. anyone know of good info on explorers?
"Big Country" <xxjeepxxxwranglerx@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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:
: "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: news:tTATf.2328$qX6.52426@news20.bellglobal.com...
: > That's the blue oval (ford) explorers.. My xj is just about dead...the
: > leaky gas tank, bad wheel bearing, rusted rockers, broken leaf, bent
front
: > end (from a deer incident 6 yrs ago), leaky roof (yes its from the
roof,
: > lots of fiberglass patches) and many other little things.. its due for
: > retirement..
: >
: > Any I was/am looking at a 1994 explorer, and was just wondering if
anyone
: > happens to know of some good sites to read up on them.. google spews
forth
: > a million but some closet ford fanatic here may be able to shorten the
: > list..... (Bill ???)
: >
: > Snow...
: >
: This particular model came equipped with the A4LD tranny which is a
document
: POS. Go to the alt.rec.autos.explorer and see for yourself. It is a french
: tranny based on the C3 POS.
: Jim
: >
:
I custom ordered a brand new 2 door sport in 94.
5 speed, 4wd. It was comfortable but there were things that made me get rid
of it fast.
The brakes were scary. If traveling a long distance and then braking say at
a stop sign or going downhill coming home from Tahoe, it would jerk hard
right. Frightening when on the side facing a 600ft ravine.
Dealership never found the problem.
The transmission was not great either. The synchros were out of whack from
early on in the game. Sometimes you couldn't get it into gear to save your
life.other times it would pop out as if someone had hit the shifter. Again,
could not duplicate at the service department.
You might want have a good mechanic give it the once over and take it for a
nice long test drive before you buy it.
Try the brakes, get up to 45-50 mph and slam em - like an emergency stop and
see how it responds.
I'll bet that for the same money you could find a good used Cherokee, a much
better vehicle.
My experience with this vehicle was what made me go for the Liberty when
looking for something similar this time.
JMO
KJK
03-21-2006, 10:53 AM
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Re: OT. anyone know of good info on explorers?
"Big Country" <xxjeepxxxwranglerx@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:z7KTf.8175$w86.1151@tornado.socal.rr.com...
:
: "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: news:tTATf.2328$qX6.52426@news20.bellglobal.com...
: > That's the blue oval (ford) explorers.. My xj is just about dead...the
: > leaky gas tank, bad wheel bearing, rusted rockers, broken leaf, bent
front
: > end (from a deer incident 6 yrs ago), leaky roof (yes its from the
roof,
: > lots of fiberglass patches) and many other little things.. its due for
: > retirement..
: >
: > Any I was/am looking at a 1994 explorer, and was just wondering if
anyone
: > happens to know of some good sites to read up on them.. google spews
forth
: > a million but some closet ford fanatic here may be able to shorten the
: > list..... (Bill ???)
: >
: > Snow...
: >
: This particular model came equipped with the A4LD tranny which is a
document
: POS. Go to the alt.rec.autos.explorer and see for yourself. It is a french
: tranny based on the C3 POS.
: Jim
: >
:
I custom ordered a brand new 2 door sport in 94.
5 speed, 4wd. It was comfortable but there were things that made me get rid
of it fast.
The brakes were scary. If traveling a long distance and then braking say at
a stop sign or going downhill coming home from Tahoe, it would jerk hard
right. Frightening when on the side facing a 600ft ravine.
Dealership never found the problem.
The transmission was not great either. The synchros were out of whack from
early on in the game. Sometimes you couldn't get it into gear to save your
life.other times it would pop out as if someone had hit the shifter. Again,
could not duplicate at the service department.
You might want have a good mechanic give it the once over and take it for a
nice long test drive before you buy it.
Try the brakes, get up to 45-50 mph and slam em - like an emergency stop and
see how it responds.
I'll bet that for the same money you could find a good used Cherokee, a much
better vehicle.
My experience with this vehicle was what made me go for the Liberty when
looking for something similar this time.
JMO
KJK
