twaldron

Look at some Pirelli Scorpion ATs.

Jeff Olsen wrote:
> I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It has
> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I bought
> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
> priorities are as follows:
>
> -wet pavement
>
> -snow and ice
>
> -durability and ride quality
>
> -mud
>
> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the tire
> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>
> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> trips, etc?
>
> -jeff
>

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71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron

Look at some Pirelli Scorpion ATs.

Jeff Olsen wrote:
> I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It has
> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I bought
> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
> priorities are as follows:
>
> -wet pavement
>
> -snow and ice
>
> -durability and ride quality
>
> -mud
>
> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the tire
> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>
> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> trips, etc?
>
> -jeff
>

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__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron

Look at some Pirelli Scorpion ATs.

Jeff Olsen wrote:
> I need to get new tires for my new-to-me SUV. I don't want to go
> aggressive; I don't think I will even go as aggressive as a BFG AT. It has
> Michelin AT's on it now but they will need replacing soon and since I bought
> it with them fairly worn out I don't know how they perform, really. My
> priorities are as follows:
>
> -wet pavement
>
> -snow and ice
>
> -durability and ride quality
>
> -mud
>
> So you can see mud is way down there, but I really need wet pavement and
> packed snow and ice performance. It's a heavy vehicle so I'd like the tire
> to be reasonably strong since I wll be on rocky dirt roads, but I DO NOT
> want to put gnarly knobby tires on there; I have MT/R's on my TJ but this
> vehicle needs just plain ol' wussy AT's.
>
> What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> trips, etc?
>
> -jeff
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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John Davies

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:49:23 GMT, Jeff Olsen
<handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
>trips, etc?

I sure wouldn't use the BFG A/T KOs - I had them on a 91 XJ and I did
not at all like the ride on the highway - very harsh IMHO, even at 32
psi. They sure are good looking and are reasonably effective
all-around tires, except for the mud.....

Why are you calling a Cherokee "heavy"? It's a tin can on wheels. A
Land Cruiser is heavy.

Have you checked the Tire Rack?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS

Also, if you go to an individual tire's page at that website, there
are usually user reviews posted at the bottom.

John

John Davies

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:49:23 GMT, Jeff Olsen
<handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
>trips, etc?

I sure wouldn't use the BFG A/T KOs - I had them on a 91 XJ and I did
not at all like the ride on the highway - very harsh IMHO, even at 32
psi. They sure are good looking and are reasonably effective
all-around tires, except for the mud.....

Why are you calling a Cherokee "heavy"? It's a tin can on wheels. A
Land Cruiser is heavy.

Have you checked the Tire Rack?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS

Also, if you go to an individual tire's page at that website, there
are usually user reviews posted at the bottom.

John

John Davies

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:49:23 GMT, Jeff Olsen
<handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
>trips, etc?

I sure wouldn't use the BFG A/T KOs - I had them on a 91 XJ and I did
not at all like the ride on the highway - very harsh IMHO, even at 32
psi. They sure are good looking and are reasonably effective
all-around tires, except for the mud.....

Why are you calling a Cherokee "heavy"? It's a tin can on wheels. A
Land Cruiser is heavy.

Have you checked the Tire Rack?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS

Also, if you go to an individual tire's page at that website, there
are usually user reviews posted at the bottom.

John

Jeff Olsen

in article uqkg31h6kaj6qhr549ukh8juad4acl9d5u@4ax.com, John Davies at
saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com wrote on 3/16/05 7:49 AM:

> Why are you calling a Cherokee "heavy"? It's a tin can on wheels. A
> Land Cruiser is heavy.

Well... heh heh... it actually IS a Land Cruiser. But I respect the opinion
of this group so much that I wanted to ask the question here. So I threw in
the part about what would you put on your Cherokee since many Cherokee's are
used for what I intend to use this rig for: hauling my family around.

-jeff

Jeff Olsen

in article uqkg31h6kaj6qhr549ukh8juad4acl9d5u@4ax.com, John Davies at
saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com wrote on 3/16/05 7:49 AM:

> Why are you calling a Cherokee "heavy"? It's a tin can on wheels. A
> Land Cruiser is heavy.

Well... heh heh... it actually IS a Land Cruiser. But I respect the opinion
of this group so much that I wanted to ask the question here. So I threw in
the part about what would you put on your Cherokee since many Cherokee's are
used for what I intend to use this rig for: hauling my family around.

-jeff

Jeff Olsen

in article uqkg31h6kaj6qhr549ukh8juad4acl9d5u@4ax.com, John Davies at
saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com wrote on 3/16/05 7:49 AM:

> Why are you calling a Cherokee "heavy"? It's a tin can on wheels. A
> Land Cruiser is heavy.

Well... heh heh... it actually IS a Land Cruiser. But I respect the opinion
of this group so much that I wanted to ask the question here. So I threw in
the part about what would you put on your Cherokee since many Cherokee's are
used for what I intend to use this rig for: hauling my family around.

-jeff

Will Honea

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:49:25 UTC John Davies
<saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:49:23 GMT, Jeff Olsen
> <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >What would YOU put on a Cherokee used for groceries, camping trips, ski
> >trips, etc?
>
> I sure wouldn't use the BFG A/T KOs - I had them on a 91 XJ and I did
> not at all like the ride on the highway - very harsh IMHO, even at 32
> psi. They sure are good looking and are reasonably effective
> all-around tires, except for the mud.....
>
> Why are you calling a Cherokee "heavy"? It's a tin can on wheels. A
> Land Cruiser is heavy.
>
> Have you checked the Tire Rack?
>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>
> Also, if you go to an individual tire's page at that website, there
> are usually user reviews posted at the bottom.

John, what the hell are you running, anyway? The only time I run
those BFG A/T's over 30 psi is when the load in the bed of the
Comanche gets about cab high and the bump stops in the rear are
getting a workout. I run 30 front, 28 rear for wear and ride and tire
wear normally - anything over that and it acts like an over inflated
basketball going down the road. Door sticker calls for 30 psi
front/rear at rated load so I don't see any reason for ever testing
that sidewall MAX pressure rating.

When I got the truck it had BFG T/A Advantage tires on it (passenger
highway tires). It made a couple of trips CO to S. Texas before I
needed new rubber so when I went to the A/T I was expecting a lot of
noise and a much rougher ride. Surprise - the A/T was just noticably
noiser (except for those cross-grooved concrete stretches - man, do
those sing) and the ride was comparable. Best wet road tire I've ever
used, grip on ice or packed snow is also really good. Wet, slushy
snow performance is good, but deep, loose snow is not as good as a
more agressive tread as the A/T tends to load up. Same problem as
deep mud - they don't clear as well as I would like. They wear like
iron - 45,000 and I'm looking at somewhere around 60, 65k before I
need to even think about changing them.

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Will Honea