twaldron

Oh, oh! Nathan's got a 'file'! ;)

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Earle Horton wrote:
> "Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
> news:YEz4g.42$6f3.12806@news.uswest.net...
>
>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>news:nLadncXm0PBjK8_ZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>>>So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler;
>>>she loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she
>>>doesn't want to get rid of her TJL. :-(
>>
>>i gave up a lot when i got married, but not my nuts!
>>
>>
>>
>>>If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
>>
>>whats wrong with an auto?
>>
>
>
> More Classic Nathan Collier -->> http://tinyurl.com/eersv
>
> I believe that this clip addresses the automatic transmission question.
>
>
>>The automatic transmission offered no engine braking,
>>and the truck constantly tried to run away coming
>>down the grades. My wife (in her Jeep Cherokee behind
>>me) had to back off because her eyes were watering
>>from the fumes generated by my burning brakes.
>
>
>
> And I believe that this one addresses the "other" question.
>
>
>>by the time we got into montana, the wifey hated it
>>(due to all the problems along the way). with tears in
>>her eyes she begged me "please take me home,
>>nathan" so thats just what i did. there was no reasoning,
>>there was no point in even trying as i could see it in her
>>eyes that i had no choice. now im stuck here again in this
>>same house in this same [expletive deleted]-hole
>>neighborhood in this same [expletive deleted]-hole state
>>with the only difference being that now im roughly $5,000
>>poorer than i was a few weeks ago.
>
>
> Cheers.
>
> Earle
>
>
>

twaldron

The truck bed is just sooooo handy though! ;) Man, I can't believe that
Excursion gets 20 mpg! I thought getting 14+ in my Titan was great.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Thing about the 250, it has just barely enough passenger room for the family
> (3 kids, 2 dogs); we traded the wifey's minivan for the Explurgin' , so we
> could have enough pass room and the towing capacity of the 250 in the same
> vehicle. That and the 250 gets 12mpg, while the excursion gets 20.
>
> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:HWI4g.10048$Lm5.8888@newssvr12.news.prodigy.c om...
>
>>Yeah, that's a tough call. You've got some nice vehicles. If you're going
>>to hand down the TJ, you'll start jonesing for another Jeep inside 6 mos.,
>>if you haven't already purchased one...but personally, I'd always have to
>>have a SWB one. The Excursion/F250 descision would be easy for me. Keep
>>the F250. :)
>>
>>tw
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>
>>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>Actually teh TJ is slated to be handed down to the oldest when he gets
>>>his DL, though he doesn't know it yet. So it will probably stay in the
>>>family.
>>>
>>>If we have to get rid of something, it'll probably be the Superduty, we
>>>don't use it much anymore since we added the Excursion to the fleet:
>>>http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>>>
>>>"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:enz4g.9989$Lm5.8909@newssvr12.news.prodigy .com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ok, Matt...you are FAR more reasonable than this...it's not a
>>>>husband/wife-boss/servant thing. The TJL would have to be the one to go
>>>>in trade on the 4dr. Leave the SWB TJ at the crib. There will be no
>>>>more....ever.
>>>>
>>>>tw
>>>>______________________________________________ _______________________
>>>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>>______________________________________________ _______________________
>>>>
>>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I made a big boo-boo.
>>>>>
>>>>>Last night the wifey and I were talking Jeeps, and I mentioned in
>>>>>passing that the 07 Wrangler would be a redesign, with a 4-door version,
>>>>>with seating for five. She seemed mildly interested.
>>>>>
>>>>>So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler; she
>>>>>loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she doesn't want to
>>>>>get rid of her TJL. :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>I have to think long and hard about Yes Dear-ing this one. I bought some
>>>>>time when I made the "you shouldn't buy a new design the first couple of
>>>>>model years because of the bugs" speech.
>>>>>
>>>>>If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
>>>>>
>>>>>OK, not insist....more like beg.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>

twaldron

The truck bed is just sooooo handy though! ;) Man, I can't believe that
Excursion gets 20 mpg! I thought getting 14+ in my Titan was great.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Thing about the 250, it has just barely enough passenger room for the family
> (3 kids, 2 dogs); we traded the wifey's minivan for the Explurgin' , so we
> could have enough pass room and the towing capacity of the 250 in the same
> vehicle. That and the 250 gets 12mpg, while the excursion gets 20.
>
> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:HWI4g.10048$Lm5.8888@newssvr12.news.prodigy.c om...
>
>>Yeah, that's a tough call. You've got some nice vehicles. If you're going
>>to hand down the TJ, you'll start jonesing for another Jeep inside 6 mos.,
>>if you haven't already purchased one...but personally, I'd always have to
>>have a SWB one. The Excursion/F250 descision would be easy for me. Keep
>>the F250. :)
>>
>>tw
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>
>>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>Actually teh TJ is slated to be handed down to the oldest when he gets
>>>his DL, though he doesn't know it yet. So it will probably stay in the
>>>family.
>>>
>>>If we have to get rid of something, it'll probably be the Superduty, we
>>>don't use it much anymore since we added the Excursion to the fleet:
>>>http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>>>
>>>"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:enz4g.9989$Lm5.8909@newssvr12.news.prodigy .com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ok, Matt...you are FAR more reasonable than this...it's not a
>>>>husband/wife-boss/servant thing. The TJL would have to be the one to go
>>>>in trade on the 4dr. Leave the SWB TJ at the crib. There will be no
>>>>more....ever.
>>>>
>>>>tw
>>>>______________________________________________ _______________________
>>>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>>______________________________________________ _______________________
>>>>
>>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I made a big boo-boo.
>>>>>
>>>>>Last night the wifey and I were talking Jeeps, and I mentioned in
>>>>>passing that the 07 Wrangler would be a redesign, with a 4-door version,
>>>>>with seating for five. She seemed mildly interested.
>>>>>
>>>>>So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler; she
>>>>>loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she doesn't want to
>>>>>get rid of her TJL. :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>I have to think long and hard about Yes Dear-ing this one. I bought some
>>>>>time when I made the "you shouldn't buy a new design the first couple of
>>>>>model years because of the bugs" speech.
>>>>>
>>>>>If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
>>>>>
>>>>>OK, not insist....more like beg.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>

twaldron

The truck bed is just sooooo handy though! ;) Man, I can't believe that
Excursion gets 20 mpg! I thought getting 14+ in my Titan was great.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Thing about the 250, it has just barely enough passenger room for the family
> (3 kids, 2 dogs); we traded the wifey's minivan for the Explurgin' , so we
> could have enough pass room and the towing capacity of the 250 in the same
> vehicle. That and the 250 gets 12mpg, while the excursion gets 20.
>
> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:HWI4g.10048$Lm5.8888@newssvr12.news.prodigy.c om...
>
>>Yeah, that's a tough call. You've got some nice vehicles. If you're going
>>to hand down the TJ, you'll start jonesing for another Jeep inside 6 mos.,
>>if you haven't already purchased one...but personally, I'd always have to
>>have a SWB one. The Excursion/F250 descision would be easy for me. Keep
>>the F250. :)
>>
>>tw
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>
>>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>Actually teh TJ is slated to be handed down to the oldest when he gets
>>>his DL, though he doesn't know it yet. So it will probably stay in the
>>>family.
>>>
>>>If we have to get rid of something, it'll probably be the Superduty, we
>>>don't use it much anymore since we added the Excursion to the fleet:
>>>http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>>>
>>>"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:enz4g.9989$Lm5.8909@newssvr12.news.prodigy .com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ok, Matt...you are FAR more reasonable than this...it's not a
>>>>husband/wife-boss/servant thing. The TJL would have to be the one to go
>>>>in trade on the 4dr. Leave the SWB TJ at the crib. There will be no
>>>>more....ever.
>>>>
>>>>tw
>>>>______________________________________________ _______________________
>>>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>>______________________________________________ _______________________
>>>>
>>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I made a big boo-boo.
>>>>>
>>>>>Last night the wifey and I were talking Jeeps, and I mentioned in
>>>>>passing that the 07 Wrangler would be a redesign, with a 4-door version,
>>>>>with seating for five. She seemed mildly interested.
>>>>>
>>>>>So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler; she
>>>>>loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she doesn't want to
>>>>>get rid of her TJL. :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>I have to think long and hard about Yes Dear-ing this one. I bought some
>>>>>time when I made the "you shouldn't buy a new design the first couple of
>>>>>model years because of the bugs" speech.
>>>>>
>>>>>If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
>>>>>
>>>>>OK, not insist....more like beg.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Earle Horton

"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:YEz4g.42$6f3.12806@news.uswest.net...
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:nLadncXm0PBjK8_ZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler;
> > she loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she
> > doesn't want to get rid of her TJL. :-(
>
> i gave up a lot when i got married, but not my nuts!
>
>
> > If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
>
> whats wrong with an auto?
>

More Classic Nathan Collier -->> http://tinyurl.com/eersv

I believe that this clip addresses the automatic transmission question.

> The automatic transmission offered no engine braking,
> and the truck constantly tried to run away coming
> down the grades. My wife (in her Jeep Cherokee behind
> me) had to back off because her eyes were watering
> from the fumes generated by my burning brakes.


And I believe that this one addresses the "other" question.

> by the time we got into montana, the wifey hated it
> (due to all the problems along the way). with tears in
> her eyes she begged me "please take me home,
> nathan" so thats just what i did. there was no reasoning,
> there was no point in even trying as i could see it in her
> eyes that i had no choice. now im stuck here again in this
> same house in this same [expletive deleted]-hole
> neighborhood in this same [expletive deleted]-hole state
> with the only difference being that now im roughly $5,000
> poorer than i was a few weeks ago.

Cheers.

Earle

Earle Horton

"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:YEz4g.42$6f3.12806@news.uswest.net...
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:nLadncXm0PBjK8_ZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler;
> > she loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she
> > doesn't want to get rid of her TJL. :-(
>
> i gave up a lot when i got married, but not my nuts!
>
>
> > If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
>
> whats wrong with an auto?
>

More Classic Nathan Collier -->> http://tinyurl.com/eersv

I believe that this clip addresses the automatic transmission question.

> The automatic transmission offered no engine braking,
> and the truck constantly tried to run away coming
> down the grades. My wife (in her Jeep Cherokee behind
> me) had to back off because her eyes were watering
> from the fumes generated by my burning brakes.


And I believe that this one addresses the "other" question.

> by the time we got into montana, the wifey hated it
> (due to all the problems along the way). with tears in
> her eyes she begged me "please take me home,
> nathan" so thats just what i did. there was no reasoning,
> there was no point in even trying as i could see it in her
> eyes that i had no choice. now im stuck here again in this
> same house in this same [expletive deleted]-hole
> neighborhood in this same [expletive deleted]-hole state
> with the only difference being that now im roughly $5,000
> poorer than i was a few weeks ago.

Cheers.

Earle

Earle Horton

"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:YEz4g.42$6f3.12806@news.uswest.net...
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:nLadncXm0PBjK8_ZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler;
> > she loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she
> > doesn't want to get rid of her TJL. :-(
>
> i gave up a lot when i got married, but not my nuts!
>
>
> > If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
>
> whats wrong with an auto?
>

More Classic Nathan Collier -->> http://tinyurl.com/eersv

I believe that this clip addresses the automatic transmission question.

> The automatic transmission offered no engine braking,
> and the truck constantly tried to run away coming
> down the grades. My wife (in her Jeep Cherokee behind
> me) had to back off because her eyes were watering
> from the fumes generated by my burning brakes.


And I believe that this one addresses the "other" question.

> by the time we got into montana, the wifey hated it
> (due to all the problems along the way). with tears in
> her eyes she begged me "please take me home,
> nathan" so thats just what i did. there was no reasoning,
> there was no point in even trying as i could see it in her
> eyes that i had no choice. now im stuck here again in this
> same house in this same [expletive deleted]-hole
> neighborhood in this same [expletive deleted]-hole state
> with the only difference being that now im roughly $5,000
> poorer than i was a few weeks ago.

Cheers.

Earle

Matt Macchiarolo

6.0L Turbodeisel. Now diesel prices are dropping compared to gas.

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:FiK4g.10059$Lm5.3821@newssvr12.news.prodigy.c om...
> The truck bed is just sooooo handy though! ;) Man, I can't believe that
> Excursion gets 20 mpg! I thought getting 14+ in my Titan was great.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Thing about the 250, it has just barely enough passenger room for the
>> family (3 kids, 2 dogs); we traded the wifey's minivan for the Explurgin'
>> , so we could have enough pass room and the towing capacity of the 250 in
>> the same vehicle. That and the 250 gets 12mpg, while the excursion gets
>> 20.
>>
>> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
>> news:HWI4g.10048$Lm5.8888@newssvr12.news.prodigy.c om...
>>
>>>Yeah, that's a tough call. You've got some nice vehicles. If you're going
>>>to hand down the TJ, you'll start jonesing for another Jeep inside 6
>>>mos., if you haven't already purchased one...but personally, I'd always
>>>have to have a SWB one. The Excursion/F250 descision would be easy for
>>>me. Keep the F250. :)
>>>
>>>tw
>>>_______________________________________________ ______________________
>>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>_______________________________________________ ______________________
>>>
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Actually teh TJ is slated to be handed down to the oldest when he gets
>>>>his DL, though he doesn't know it yet. So it will probably stay in the
>>>>family.
>>>>
>>>>If we have to get rid of something, it'll probably be the Superduty, we
>>>>don't use it much anymore since we added the Excursion to the fleet:
>>>>http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>>>>
>>>>"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:enz4g.9989$Lm5.8909@newssvr12.news.prodig y.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Ok, Matt...you are FAR more reasonable than this...it's not a
>>>>>husband/wife-boss/servant thing. The TJL would have to be the one to go
>>>>>in trade on the 4dr. Leave the SWB TJ at the crib. There will be no
>>>>>more....ever.
>>>>>
>>>>>tw
>>>>>_____________________________________________ ________________________
>>>>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>>
>>>>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>>
>>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>>
>>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>>>_____________________________________________ ________________________
>>>>>
>>>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I made a big boo-boo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Last night the wifey and I were talking Jeeps, and I mentioned in
>>>>>>passing that the 07 Wrangler would be a redesign, with a 4-door
>>>>>>version, with seating for five. She seemed mildly interested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler; she
>>>>>>loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she doesn't want to
>>>>>>get rid of her TJL. :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have to think long and hard about Yes Dear-ing this one. I bought
>>>>>>some time when I made the "you shouldn't buy a new design the first
>>>>>>couple of model years because of the bugs" speech.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>OK, not insist....more like beg.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>

Matt Macchiarolo

6.0L Turbodeisel. Now diesel prices are dropping compared to gas.

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:FiK4g.10059$Lm5.3821@newssvr12.news.prodigy.c om...
> The truck bed is just sooooo handy though! ;) Man, I can't believe that
> Excursion gets 20 mpg! I thought getting 14+ in my Titan was great.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Thing about the 250, it has just barely enough passenger room for the
>> family (3 kids, 2 dogs); we traded the wifey's minivan for the Explurgin'
>> , so we could have enough pass room and the towing capacity of the 250 in
>> the same vehicle. That and the 250 gets 12mpg, while the excursion gets
>> 20.
>>
>> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
>> news:HWI4g.10048$Lm5.8888@newssvr12.news.prodigy.c om...
>>
>>>Yeah, that's a tough call. You've got some nice vehicles. If you're going
>>>to hand down the TJ, you'll start jonesing for another Jeep inside 6
>>>mos., if you haven't already purchased one...but personally, I'd always
>>>have to have a SWB one. The Excursion/F250 descision would be easy for
>>>me. Keep the F250. :)
>>>
>>>tw
>>>_______________________________________________ ______________________
>>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>_______________________________________________ ______________________
>>>
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Actually teh TJ is slated to be handed down to the oldest when he gets
>>>>his DL, though he doesn't know it yet. So it will probably stay in the
>>>>family.
>>>>
>>>>If we have to get rid of something, it'll probably be the Superduty, we
>>>>don't use it much anymore since we added the Excursion to the fleet:
>>>>http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>>>>
>>>>"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:enz4g.9989$Lm5.8909@newssvr12.news.prodig y.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Ok, Matt...you are FAR more reasonable than this...it's not a
>>>>>husband/wife-boss/servant thing. The TJL would have to be the one to go
>>>>>in trade on the 4dr. Leave the SWB TJ at the crib. There will be no
>>>>>more....ever.
>>>>>
>>>>>tw
>>>>>_____________________________________________ ________________________
>>>>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>>
>>>>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>>
>>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>>
>>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>>>_____________________________________________ ________________________
>>>>>
>>>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I made a big boo-boo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Last night the wifey and I were talking Jeeps, and I mentioned in
>>>>>>passing that the 07 Wrangler would be a redesign, with a 4-door
>>>>>>version, with seating for five. She seemed mildly interested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler; she
>>>>>>loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she doesn't want to
>>>>>>get rid of her TJL. :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have to think long and hard about Yes Dear-ing this one. I bought
>>>>>>some time when I made the "you shouldn't buy a new design the first
>>>>>>couple of model years because of the bugs" speech.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>OK, not insist....more like beg.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>

Matt Macchiarolo

6.0L Turbodeisel. Now diesel prices are dropping compared to gas.

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:FiK4g.10059$Lm5.3821@newssvr12.news.prodigy.c om...
> The truck bed is just sooooo handy though! ;) Man, I can't believe that
> Excursion gets 20 mpg! I thought getting 14+ in my Titan was great.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Thing about the 250, it has just barely enough passenger room for the
>> family (3 kids, 2 dogs); we traded the wifey's minivan for the Explurgin'
>> , so we could have enough pass room and the towing capacity of the 250 in
>> the same vehicle. That and the 250 gets 12mpg, while the excursion gets
>> 20.
>>
>> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
>> news:HWI4g.10048$Lm5.8888@newssvr12.news.prodigy.c om...
>>
>>>Yeah, that's a tough call. You've got some nice vehicles. If you're going
>>>to hand down the TJ, you'll start jonesing for another Jeep inside 6
>>>mos., if you haven't already purchased one...but personally, I'd always
>>>have to have a SWB one. The Excursion/F250 descision would be easy for
>>>me. Keep the F250. :)
>>>
>>>tw
>>>_______________________________________________ ______________________
>>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>_______________________________________________ ______________________
>>>
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Actually teh TJ is slated to be handed down to the oldest when he gets
>>>>his DL, though he doesn't know it yet. So it will probably stay in the
>>>>family.
>>>>
>>>>If we have to get rid of something, it'll probably be the Superduty, we
>>>>don't use it much anymore since we added the Excursion to the fleet:
>>>>http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>>>>
>>>>"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:enz4g.9989$Lm5.8909@newssvr12.news.prodig y.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Ok, Matt...you are FAR more reasonable than this...it's not a
>>>>>husband/wife-boss/servant thing. The TJL would have to be the one to go
>>>>>in trade on the 4dr. Leave the SWB TJ at the crib. There will be no
>>>>>more....ever.
>>>>>
>>>>>tw
>>>>>_____________________________________________ ________________________
>>>>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>>
>>>>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>>
>>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>>
>>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>>>_____________________________________________ ________________________
>>>>>
>>>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I made a big boo-boo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Last night the wifey and I were talking Jeeps, and I mentioned in
>>>>>>passing that the 07 Wrangler would be a redesign, with a 4-door
>>>>>>version, with seating for five. She seemed mildly interested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler; she
>>>>>>loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she doesn't want to
>>>>>>get rid of her TJL. :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have to think long and hard about Yes Dear-ing this one. I bought
>>>>>>some time when I made the "you shouldn't buy a new design the first
>>>>>>couple of model years because of the bugs" speech.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>OK, not insist....more like beg.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>