Ontario wheelin
02-07-2004, 11:23 AM
#11
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ontario wheelin
The books are available here too.
But we are fast running out of places to wheel in southern Ontario. 99%
of it is owned and most places close to any city have been closed down
recently.
This is putting a lot of pressure on the open areas and the snowmobilers
are trying to get all 4x4's banned, not just in the winter on 'their' so
called trails across crown land. They are not willing to share, no
matter that we come along in the summer and clean up all the crap they
leave buried under the snow and clear trails from downed trees.
etc.......
Mike
SB wrote:
>
> Back in BC we had published map books for "back country" excursions. They
> included forestry roads, bike trails (the main ones!) and lots of hiking
> trails and stuff.
> Not that I've been looking REAL hard here....but I haven't found any offroad
> map books here.
>
> Is it just not as popular as back there? Or not as many places to wheel
> (hope not!)....
>
> sb
>
> <admin@ncgcanada.com> wrote in message
> news:6N%Ub.41467$9U5.1573869@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Welcome back to Ontario. When the spring comes I should be out all the
> > time. I enjoy the scenic stuff too and since I got rid of the YJ and not
> > have a Grand Cherokee I will be sticking away from the extreme stuff.
> This
> > summer should be pretty good I would think.
> > --
> > Checkout www.canadianoffroad.com!
> >
> > "SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > > Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
> > >
> > > I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
> > > I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta
> love
> > > those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
> > >
> > > Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for
> tips
> > on
> > > fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
> > >
> > > I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > SB
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
But we are fast running out of places to wheel in southern Ontario. 99%
of it is owned and most places close to any city have been closed down
recently.
This is putting a lot of pressure on the open areas and the snowmobilers
are trying to get all 4x4's banned, not just in the winter on 'their' so
called trails across crown land. They are not willing to share, no
matter that we come along in the summer and clean up all the crap they
leave buried under the snow and clear trails from downed trees.
etc.......
Mike
SB wrote:
>
> Back in BC we had published map books for "back country" excursions. They
> included forestry roads, bike trails (the main ones!) and lots of hiking
> trails and stuff.
> Not that I've been looking REAL hard here....but I haven't found any offroad
> map books here.
>
> Is it just not as popular as back there? Or not as many places to wheel
> (hope not!)....
>
> sb
>
> <admin@ncgcanada.com> wrote in message
> news:6N%Ub.41467$9U5.1573869@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Welcome back to Ontario. When the spring comes I should be out all the
> > time. I enjoy the scenic stuff too and since I got rid of the YJ and not
> > have a Grand Cherokee I will be sticking away from the extreme stuff.
> This
> > summer should be pretty good I would think.
> > --
> > Checkout www.canadianoffroad.com!
> >
> > "SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > > Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
> > >
> > > I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
> > > I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta
> love
> > > those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
> > >
> > > Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for
> tips
> > on
> > > fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
> > >
> > > I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > SB
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
02-07-2004, 11:23 AM
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ontario wheelin
The books are available here too.
But we are fast running out of places to wheel in southern Ontario. 99%
of it is owned and most places close to any city have been closed down
recently.
This is putting a lot of pressure on the open areas and the snowmobilers
are trying to get all 4x4's banned, not just in the winter on 'their' so
called trails across crown land. They are not willing to share, no
matter that we come along in the summer and clean up all the crap they
leave buried under the snow and clear trails from downed trees.
etc.......
Mike
SB wrote:
>
> Back in BC we had published map books for "back country" excursions. They
> included forestry roads, bike trails (the main ones!) and lots of hiking
> trails and stuff.
> Not that I've been looking REAL hard here....but I haven't found any offroad
> map books here.
>
> Is it just not as popular as back there? Or not as many places to wheel
> (hope not!)....
>
> sb
>
> <admin@ncgcanada.com> wrote in message
> news:6N%Ub.41467$9U5.1573869@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Welcome back to Ontario. When the spring comes I should be out all the
> > time. I enjoy the scenic stuff too and since I got rid of the YJ and not
> > have a Grand Cherokee I will be sticking away from the extreme stuff.
> This
> > summer should be pretty good I would think.
> > --
> > Checkout www.canadianoffroad.com!
> >
> > "SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > > Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
> > >
> > > I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
> > > I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta
> love
> > > those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
> > >
> > > Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for
> tips
> > on
> > > fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
> > >
> > > I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > SB
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
But we are fast running out of places to wheel in southern Ontario. 99%
of it is owned and most places close to any city have been closed down
recently.
This is putting a lot of pressure on the open areas and the snowmobilers
are trying to get all 4x4's banned, not just in the winter on 'their' so
called trails across crown land. They are not willing to share, no
matter that we come along in the summer and clean up all the crap they
leave buried under the snow and clear trails from downed trees.
etc.......
Mike
SB wrote:
>
> Back in BC we had published map books for "back country" excursions. They
> included forestry roads, bike trails (the main ones!) and lots of hiking
> trails and stuff.
> Not that I've been looking REAL hard here....but I haven't found any offroad
> map books here.
>
> Is it just not as popular as back there? Or not as many places to wheel
> (hope not!)....
>
> sb
>
> <admin@ncgcanada.com> wrote in message
> news:6N%Ub.41467$9U5.1573869@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Welcome back to Ontario. When the spring comes I should be out all the
> > time. I enjoy the scenic stuff too and since I got rid of the YJ and not
> > have a Grand Cherokee I will be sticking away from the extreme stuff.
> This
> > summer should be pretty good I would think.
> > --
> > Checkout www.canadianoffroad.com!
> >
> > "SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > > Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
> > >
> > > I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
> > > I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta
> love
> > > those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
> > >
> > > Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for
> tips
> > on
> > > fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
> > >
> > > I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > SB
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
02-07-2004, 11:23 AM
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ontario wheelin
The books are available here too.
But we are fast running out of places to wheel in southern Ontario. 99%
of it is owned and most places close to any city have been closed down
recently.
This is putting a lot of pressure on the open areas and the snowmobilers
are trying to get all 4x4's banned, not just in the winter on 'their' so
called trails across crown land. They are not willing to share, no
matter that we come along in the summer and clean up all the crap they
leave buried under the snow and clear trails from downed trees.
etc.......
Mike
SB wrote:
>
> Back in BC we had published map books for "back country" excursions. They
> included forestry roads, bike trails (the main ones!) and lots of hiking
> trails and stuff.
> Not that I've been looking REAL hard here....but I haven't found any offroad
> map books here.
>
> Is it just not as popular as back there? Or not as many places to wheel
> (hope not!)....
>
> sb
>
> <admin@ncgcanada.com> wrote in message
> news:6N%Ub.41467$9U5.1573869@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Welcome back to Ontario. When the spring comes I should be out all the
> > time. I enjoy the scenic stuff too and since I got rid of the YJ and not
> > have a Grand Cherokee I will be sticking away from the extreme stuff.
> This
> > summer should be pretty good I would think.
> > --
> > Checkout www.canadianoffroad.com!
> >
> > "SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > > Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
> > >
> > > I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
> > > I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta
> love
> > > those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
> > >
> > > Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for
> tips
> > on
> > > fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
> > >
> > > I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > SB
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
But we are fast running out of places to wheel in southern Ontario. 99%
of it is owned and most places close to any city have been closed down
recently.
This is putting a lot of pressure on the open areas and the snowmobilers
are trying to get all 4x4's banned, not just in the winter on 'their' so
called trails across crown land. They are not willing to share, no
matter that we come along in the summer and clean up all the crap they
leave buried under the snow and clear trails from downed trees.
etc.......
Mike
SB wrote:
>
> Back in BC we had published map books for "back country" excursions. They
> included forestry roads, bike trails (the main ones!) and lots of hiking
> trails and stuff.
> Not that I've been looking REAL hard here....but I haven't found any offroad
> map books here.
>
> Is it just not as popular as back there? Or not as many places to wheel
> (hope not!)....
>
> sb
>
> <admin@ncgcanada.com> wrote in message
> news:6N%Ub.41467$9U5.1573869@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Welcome back to Ontario. When the spring comes I should be out all the
> > time. I enjoy the scenic stuff too and since I got rid of the YJ and not
> > have a Grand Cherokee I will be sticking away from the extreme stuff.
> This
> > summer should be pretty good I would think.
> > --
> > Checkout www.canadianoffroad.com!
> >
> > "SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > > Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
> > >
> > > I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
> > > I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta
> love
> > > those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
> > >
> > > Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for
> tips
> > on
> > > fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
> > >
> > > I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > SB
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
02-08-2004, 09:10 PM
#14
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Posts: n/a
Re: Ontario wheelin
Check out http://www.jeepkings.ca/forums/. It generates quite a bit of
traffic. A great site to pick up info if you'll around southern ontario.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Redge Egder
http://members.allstream.net/~kaessie/jeepin/
Inquiro Et Invenio...
"SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
>
> I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
> I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta love
> those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
>
> Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for tips
on
> fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
>
> I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
>
> Thanks
> SB
>
>
traffic. A great site to pick up info if you'll around southern ontario.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Redge Egder
http://members.allstream.net/~kaessie/jeepin/
Inquiro Et Invenio...
"SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
>
> I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
> I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta love
> those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
>
> Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for tips
on
> fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
>
> I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
>
> Thanks
> SB
>
>
02-08-2004, 09:10 PM
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ontario wheelin
Check out http://www.jeepkings.ca/forums/. It generates quite a bit of
traffic. A great site to pick up info if you'll around southern ontario.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Redge Egder
http://members.allstream.net/~kaessie/jeepin/
Inquiro Et Invenio...
"SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
>
> I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
> I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta love
> those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
>
> Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for tips
on
> fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
>
> I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
>
> Thanks
> SB
>
>
traffic. A great site to pick up info if you'll around southern ontario.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Redge Egder
http://members.allstream.net/~kaessie/jeepin/
Inquiro Et Invenio...
"SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
>
> I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
> I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta love
> those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
>
> Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for tips
on
> fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
>
> I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
>
> Thanks
> SB
>
>
02-08-2004, 09:10 PM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ontario wheelin
Check out http://www.jeepkings.ca/forums/. It generates quite a bit of
traffic. A great site to pick up info if you'll around southern ontario.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Redge Egder
http://members.allstream.net/~kaessie/jeepin/
Inquiro Et Invenio...
"SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
>
> I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
> I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta love
> those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
>
> Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for tips
on
> fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
>
> I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
>
> Thanks
> SB
>
>
traffic. A great site to pick up info if you'll around southern ontario.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Redge Egder
http://members.allstream.net/~kaessie/jeepin/
Inquiro Et Invenio...
"SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
>
> I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
> I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta love
> those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
>
> Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for tips
on
> fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
>
> I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
>
> Thanks
> SB
>
>
02-09-2004, 07:51 AM
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ontario wheelin
I wouldn't worry too much Mike
Soon because of the insurance companies
raising the price 1000 % for the OFSC
(Ontario Federation of Snowmobile Clubs)
trail insurance and the same Insurance companies
refusing to insure sleds over 600 CC engine size.
Many people have sleds they cannot insure at all.
And also a lack of rideable snow. A lot of people
have refused to buy the 195 dollar trail pass.
Soon the OFSC will have to close down.
Snowmobiling is being killed off in Ontario.
Too bad though, as snowmobilers help the rural
economies such as hotels , restaurants , gas stations etc...
in the small towns, which other wise would be like a ghost town
in the winter.
Mike Romain wrote:
> The books are available here too.
>
> But we are fast running out of places to wheel in southern Ontario. 99%
> of it is owned and most places close to any city have been closed down
> recently.
>
> This is putting a lot of pressure on the open areas and the snowmobilers
> are trying to get all 4x4's banned, not just in the winter on 'their' so
> called trails across crown land. They are not willing to share, no
> matter that we come along in the summer and clean up all the crap they
> leave buried under the snow and clear trails from downed trees.
> etc.......
>
> Mike
>
> SB wrote:
>
>>Back in BC we had published map books for "back country" excursions. They
>>included forestry roads, bike trails (the main ones!) and lots of hiking
>>trails and stuff.
>>Not that I've been looking REAL hard here....but I haven't found any offroad
>>map books here.
>>
>>Is it just not as popular as back there? Or not as many places to wheel
>>(hope not!)....
>>
>>sb
>>
>><admin@ncgcanada.com> wrote in message
>>news:6N%Ub.41467$9U5.1573869@news20.bellglobal.c om...
>>
>>>Welcome back to Ontario. When the spring comes I should be out all the
>>>time. I enjoy the scenic stuff too and since I got rid of the YJ and not
>>>have a Grand Cherokee I will be sticking away from the extreme stuff.
>>
>>This
>>
>>>summer should be pretty good I would think.
>>>--
>>>Checkout www.canadianoffroad.com!
>>>
>>>"SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.c able.rogers.com...
>>>
>>>>Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
>>>>
>>>>I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
>>>>I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta
>>
>>love
>>
>>>>those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
>>>>
>>>>Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for
>>
>>tips
>>
>>>on
>>>
>>>>fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
>>>>
>>>>I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>SB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
Soon because of the insurance companies
raising the price 1000 % for the OFSC
(Ontario Federation of Snowmobile Clubs)
trail insurance and the same Insurance companies
refusing to insure sleds over 600 CC engine size.
Many people have sleds they cannot insure at all.
And also a lack of rideable snow. A lot of people
have refused to buy the 195 dollar trail pass.
Soon the OFSC will have to close down.
Snowmobiling is being killed off in Ontario.
Too bad though, as snowmobilers help the rural
economies such as hotels , restaurants , gas stations etc...
in the small towns, which other wise would be like a ghost town
in the winter.
Mike Romain wrote:
> The books are available here too.
>
> But we are fast running out of places to wheel in southern Ontario. 99%
> of it is owned and most places close to any city have been closed down
> recently.
>
> This is putting a lot of pressure on the open areas and the snowmobilers
> are trying to get all 4x4's banned, not just in the winter on 'their' so
> called trails across crown land. They are not willing to share, no
> matter that we come along in the summer and clean up all the crap they
> leave buried under the snow and clear trails from downed trees.
> etc.......
>
> Mike
>
> SB wrote:
>
>>Back in BC we had published map books for "back country" excursions. They
>>included forestry roads, bike trails (the main ones!) and lots of hiking
>>trails and stuff.
>>Not that I've been looking REAL hard here....but I haven't found any offroad
>>map books here.
>>
>>Is it just not as popular as back there? Or not as many places to wheel
>>(hope not!)....
>>
>>sb
>>
>><admin@ncgcanada.com> wrote in message
>>news:6N%Ub.41467$9U5.1573869@news20.bellglobal.c om...
>>
>>>Welcome back to Ontario. When the spring comes I should be out all the
>>>time. I enjoy the scenic stuff too and since I got rid of the YJ and not
>>>have a Grand Cherokee I will be sticking away from the extreme stuff.
>>
>>This
>>
>>>summer should be pretty good I would think.
>>>--
>>>Checkout www.canadianoffroad.com!
>>>
>>>"SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.c able.rogers.com...
>>>
>>>>Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
>>>>
>>>>I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
>>>>I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta
>>
>>love
>>
>>>>those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
>>>>
>>>>Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for
>>
>>tips
>>
>>>on
>>>
>>>>fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
>>>>
>>>>I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>SB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
02-09-2004, 07:51 AM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ontario wheelin
I wouldn't worry too much Mike
Soon because of the insurance companies
raising the price 1000 % for the OFSC
(Ontario Federation of Snowmobile Clubs)
trail insurance and the same Insurance companies
refusing to insure sleds over 600 CC engine size.
Many people have sleds they cannot insure at all.
And also a lack of rideable snow. A lot of people
have refused to buy the 195 dollar trail pass.
Soon the OFSC will have to close down.
Snowmobiling is being killed off in Ontario.
Too bad though, as snowmobilers help the rural
economies such as hotels , restaurants , gas stations etc...
in the small towns, which other wise would be like a ghost town
in the winter.
Mike Romain wrote:
> The books are available here too.
>
> But we are fast running out of places to wheel in southern Ontario. 99%
> of it is owned and most places close to any city have been closed down
> recently.
>
> This is putting a lot of pressure on the open areas and the snowmobilers
> are trying to get all 4x4's banned, not just in the winter on 'their' so
> called trails across crown land. They are not willing to share, no
> matter that we come along in the summer and clean up all the crap they
> leave buried under the snow and clear trails from downed trees.
> etc.......
>
> Mike
>
> SB wrote:
>
>>Back in BC we had published map books for "back country" excursions. They
>>included forestry roads, bike trails (the main ones!) and lots of hiking
>>trails and stuff.
>>Not that I've been looking REAL hard here....but I haven't found any offroad
>>map books here.
>>
>>Is it just not as popular as back there? Or not as many places to wheel
>>(hope not!)....
>>
>>sb
>>
>><admin@ncgcanada.com> wrote in message
>>news:6N%Ub.41467$9U5.1573869@news20.bellglobal.c om...
>>
>>>Welcome back to Ontario. When the spring comes I should be out all the
>>>time. I enjoy the scenic stuff too and since I got rid of the YJ and not
>>>have a Grand Cherokee I will be sticking away from the extreme stuff.
>>
>>This
>>
>>>summer should be pretty good I would think.
>>>--
>>>Checkout www.canadianoffroad.com!
>>>
>>>"SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.c able.rogers.com...
>>>
>>>>Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
>>>>
>>>>I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
>>>>I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta
>>
>>love
>>
>>>>those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
>>>>
>>>>Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for
>>
>>tips
>>
>>>on
>>>
>>>>fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
>>>>
>>>>I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>SB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
Soon because of the insurance companies
raising the price 1000 % for the OFSC
(Ontario Federation of Snowmobile Clubs)
trail insurance and the same Insurance companies
refusing to insure sleds over 600 CC engine size.
Many people have sleds they cannot insure at all.
And also a lack of rideable snow. A lot of people
have refused to buy the 195 dollar trail pass.
Soon the OFSC will have to close down.
Snowmobiling is being killed off in Ontario.
Too bad though, as snowmobilers help the rural
economies such as hotels , restaurants , gas stations etc...
in the small towns, which other wise would be like a ghost town
in the winter.
Mike Romain wrote:
> The books are available here too.
>
> But we are fast running out of places to wheel in southern Ontario. 99%
> of it is owned and most places close to any city have been closed down
> recently.
>
> This is putting a lot of pressure on the open areas and the snowmobilers
> are trying to get all 4x4's banned, not just in the winter on 'their' so
> called trails across crown land. They are not willing to share, no
> matter that we come along in the summer and clean up all the crap they
> leave buried under the snow and clear trails from downed trees.
> etc.......
>
> Mike
>
> SB wrote:
>
>>Back in BC we had published map books for "back country" excursions. They
>>included forestry roads, bike trails (the main ones!) and lots of hiking
>>trails and stuff.
>>Not that I've been looking REAL hard here....but I haven't found any offroad
>>map books here.
>>
>>Is it just not as popular as back there? Or not as many places to wheel
>>(hope not!)....
>>
>>sb
>>
>><admin@ncgcanada.com> wrote in message
>>news:6N%Ub.41467$9U5.1573869@news20.bellglobal.c om...
>>
>>>Welcome back to Ontario. When the spring comes I should be out all the
>>>time. I enjoy the scenic stuff too and since I got rid of the YJ and not
>>>have a Grand Cherokee I will be sticking away from the extreme stuff.
>>
>>This
>>
>>>summer should be pretty good I would think.
>>>--
>>>Checkout www.canadianoffroad.com!
>>>
>>>"SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.c able.rogers.com...
>>>
>>>>Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
>>>>
>>>>I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
>>>>I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta
>>
>>love
>>
>>>>those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
>>>>
>>>>Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for
>>
>>tips
>>
>>>on
>>>
>>>>fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
>>>>
>>>>I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>SB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
02-09-2004, 07:51 AM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ontario wheelin
I wouldn't worry too much Mike
Soon because of the insurance companies
raising the price 1000 % for the OFSC
(Ontario Federation of Snowmobile Clubs)
trail insurance and the same Insurance companies
refusing to insure sleds over 600 CC engine size.
Many people have sleds they cannot insure at all.
And also a lack of rideable snow. A lot of people
have refused to buy the 195 dollar trail pass.
Soon the OFSC will have to close down.
Snowmobiling is being killed off in Ontario.
Too bad though, as snowmobilers help the rural
economies such as hotels , restaurants , gas stations etc...
in the small towns, which other wise would be like a ghost town
in the winter.
Mike Romain wrote:
> The books are available here too.
>
> But we are fast running out of places to wheel in southern Ontario. 99%
> of it is owned and most places close to any city have been closed down
> recently.
>
> This is putting a lot of pressure on the open areas and the snowmobilers
> are trying to get all 4x4's banned, not just in the winter on 'their' so
> called trails across crown land. They are not willing to share, no
> matter that we come along in the summer and clean up all the crap they
> leave buried under the snow and clear trails from downed trees.
> etc.......
>
> Mike
>
> SB wrote:
>
>>Back in BC we had published map books for "back country" excursions. They
>>included forestry roads, bike trails (the main ones!) and lots of hiking
>>trails and stuff.
>>Not that I've been looking REAL hard here....but I haven't found any offroad
>>map books here.
>>
>>Is it just not as popular as back there? Or not as many places to wheel
>>(hope not!)....
>>
>>sb
>>
>><admin@ncgcanada.com> wrote in message
>>news:6N%Ub.41467$9U5.1573869@news20.bellglobal.c om...
>>
>>>Welcome back to Ontario. When the spring comes I should be out all the
>>>time. I enjoy the scenic stuff too and since I got rid of the YJ and not
>>>have a Grand Cherokee I will be sticking away from the extreme stuff.
>>
>>This
>>
>>>summer should be pretty good I would think.
>>>--
>>>Checkout www.canadianoffroad.com!
>>>
>>>"SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.c able.rogers.com...
>>>
>>>>Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
>>>>
>>>>I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
>>>>I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta
>>
>>love
>>
>>>>those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
>>>>
>>>>Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for
>>
>>tips
>>
>>>on
>>>
>>>>fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
>>>>
>>>>I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>SB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
Soon because of the insurance companies
raising the price 1000 % for the OFSC
(Ontario Federation of Snowmobile Clubs)
trail insurance and the same Insurance companies
refusing to insure sleds over 600 CC engine size.
Many people have sleds they cannot insure at all.
And also a lack of rideable snow. A lot of people
have refused to buy the 195 dollar trail pass.
Soon the OFSC will have to close down.
Snowmobiling is being killed off in Ontario.
Too bad though, as snowmobilers help the rural
economies such as hotels , restaurants , gas stations etc...
in the small towns, which other wise would be like a ghost town
in the winter.
Mike Romain wrote:
> The books are available here too.
>
> But we are fast running out of places to wheel in southern Ontario. 99%
> of it is owned and most places close to any city have been closed down
> recently.
>
> This is putting a lot of pressure on the open areas and the snowmobilers
> are trying to get all 4x4's banned, not just in the winter on 'their' so
> called trails across crown land. They are not willing to share, no
> matter that we come along in the summer and clean up all the crap they
> leave buried under the snow and clear trails from downed trees.
> etc.......
>
> Mike
>
> SB wrote:
>
>>Back in BC we had published map books for "back country" excursions. They
>>included forestry roads, bike trails (the main ones!) and lots of hiking
>>trails and stuff.
>>Not that I've been looking REAL hard here....but I haven't found any offroad
>>map books here.
>>
>>Is it just not as popular as back there? Or not as many places to wheel
>>(hope not!)....
>>
>>sb
>>
>><admin@ncgcanada.com> wrote in message
>>news:6N%Ub.41467$9U5.1573869@news20.bellglobal.c om...
>>
>>>Welcome back to Ontario. When the spring comes I should be out all the
>>>time. I enjoy the scenic stuff too and since I got rid of the YJ and not
>>>have a Grand Cherokee I will be sticking away from the extreme stuff.
>>
>>This
>>
>>>summer should be pretty good I would think.
>>>--
>>>Checkout www.canadianoffroad.com!
>>>
>>>"SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.c able.rogers.com...
>>>
>>>>Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
>>>>
>>>>I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
>>>>I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta
>>
>>love
>>
>>>>those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
>>>>
>>>>Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for
>>
>>tips
>>
>>>on
>>>
>>>>fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
>>>>
>>>>I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>SB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
02-09-2004, 10:23 AM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ontario wheelin
I think they are missing the boat not inviting us 4x4 drivers into their
'club'.
Like you say, recently the snow cover has been really bad and the last
two New Years runs we have done were all ice runs with not enough snow
down to even have a snowball fight let alone run a snowmobile on.
There were tons of folks out on the trails still. In 4x4's!
If we were members of their 'club', then come spring thaw and summer, we
wouldn't mind getting into trail maintenance and clearing dead fall
etc. As it is now, why bother to do any. All we get is bitched at.
I have had the ****** wanting to call the cops on me until I start
laughing too loud and one of them clues in that something is up. I only
run on 'dual use' trails and have the maps to prove it.
I mean there is one nice cottage my wife and I like to go to and if we
show up there in our Jeep when the winter crowd is around, even in the
summer that's all we get to hear is them crying about us 4x4'ers getting
to use 'their' trails for free and how all the trails should be closed
except to sleds.
They should try to get along with the summer users, not fight with us,
then maybe their clubs would survive if folks bought 'year round' passes
or something like that rather than us wheeling along on crown land only
to hit a gate that says only OFSC pass holders only can use this route
from this point on to get gas or food forcing us to go some other place.
And you are right about the local economy. We frequent a one pump mom
and pop convenience store when we go on runs. We use lots of gas and
always need munchies or pop or something and they are at a trail head.
They like seeing us show up and will even open up late for us if I am
meeting a bunch coming in late on a Friday night from Montreal or
something.
Mike
FrankW wrote:
>
> I wouldn't worry too much Mike
> Soon because of the insurance companies
> raising the price 1000 % for the OFSC
> (Ontario Federation of Snowmobile Clubs)
> trail insurance and the same Insurance companies
> refusing to insure sleds over 600 CC engine size.
> Many people have sleds they cannot insure at all.
> And also a lack of rideable snow. A lot of people
> have refused to buy the 195 dollar trail pass.
> Soon the OFSC will have to close down.
> Snowmobiling is being killed off in Ontario.
>
> Too bad though, as snowmobilers help the rural
> economies such as hotels , restaurants , gas stations etc...
> in the small towns, which other wise would be like a ghost town
> in the winter.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > The books are available here too.
> >
> > But we are fast running out of places to wheel in southern Ontario. 99%
> > of it is owned and most places close to any city have been closed down
> > recently.
> >
> > This is putting a lot of pressure on the open areas and the snowmobilers
> > are trying to get all 4x4's banned, not just in the winter on 'their' so
> > called trails across crown land. They are not willing to share, no
> > matter that we come along in the summer and clean up all the crap they
> > leave buried under the snow and clear trails from downed trees.
> > etc.......
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > SB wrote:
> >
> >>Back in BC we had published map books for "back country" excursions. They
> >>included forestry roads, bike trails (the main ones!) and lots of hiking
> >>trails and stuff.
> >>Not that I've been looking REAL hard here....but I haven't found any offroad
> >>map books here.
> >>
> >>Is it just not as popular as back there? Or not as many places to wheel
> >>(hope not!)....
> >>
> >>sb
> >>
> >><admin@ncgcanada.com> wrote in message
> >>news:6N%Ub.41467$9U5.1573869@news20.bellglobal.c om...
> >>
> >>>Welcome back to Ontario. When the spring comes I should be out all the
> >>>time. I enjoy the scenic stuff too and since I got rid of the YJ and not
> >>>have a Grand Cherokee I will be sticking away from the extreme stuff.
> >>
> >>This
> >>
> >>>summer should be pretty good I would think.
> >>>--
> >>>Checkout www.canadianoffroad.com!
> >>>
> >>>"SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.c able.rogers.com...
> >>>
> >>>>Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
> >>>>
> >>>>I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
> >>>>I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta
> >>
> >>love
> >>
> >>>>those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
> >>>>
> >>>>Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for
> >>
> >>tips
> >>
> >>>on
> >>>
> >>>>fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
> >>>>
> >>>>I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks
> >>>>SB
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
'club'.
Like you say, recently the snow cover has been really bad and the last
two New Years runs we have done were all ice runs with not enough snow
down to even have a snowball fight let alone run a snowmobile on.
There were tons of folks out on the trails still. In 4x4's!
If we were members of their 'club', then come spring thaw and summer, we
wouldn't mind getting into trail maintenance and clearing dead fall
etc. As it is now, why bother to do any. All we get is bitched at.
I have had the ****** wanting to call the cops on me until I start
laughing too loud and one of them clues in that something is up. I only
run on 'dual use' trails and have the maps to prove it.
I mean there is one nice cottage my wife and I like to go to and if we
show up there in our Jeep when the winter crowd is around, even in the
summer that's all we get to hear is them crying about us 4x4'ers getting
to use 'their' trails for free and how all the trails should be closed
except to sleds.
They should try to get along with the summer users, not fight with us,
then maybe their clubs would survive if folks bought 'year round' passes
or something like that rather than us wheeling along on crown land only
to hit a gate that says only OFSC pass holders only can use this route
from this point on to get gas or food forcing us to go some other place.
And you are right about the local economy. We frequent a one pump mom
and pop convenience store when we go on runs. We use lots of gas and
always need munchies or pop or something and they are at a trail head.
They like seeing us show up and will even open up late for us if I am
meeting a bunch coming in late on a Friday night from Montreal or
something.
Mike
FrankW wrote:
>
> I wouldn't worry too much Mike
> Soon because of the insurance companies
> raising the price 1000 % for the OFSC
> (Ontario Federation of Snowmobile Clubs)
> trail insurance and the same Insurance companies
> refusing to insure sleds over 600 CC engine size.
> Many people have sleds they cannot insure at all.
> And also a lack of rideable snow. A lot of people
> have refused to buy the 195 dollar trail pass.
> Soon the OFSC will have to close down.
> Snowmobiling is being killed off in Ontario.
>
> Too bad though, as snowmobilers help the rural
> economies such as hotels , restaurants , gas stations etc...
> in the small towns, which other wise would be like a ghost town
> in the winter.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > The books are available here too.
> >
> > But we are fast running out of places to wheel in southern Ontario. 99%
> > of it is owned and most places close to any city have been closed down
> > recently.
> >
> > This is putting a lot of pressure on the open areas and the snowmobilers
> > are trying to get all 4x4's banned, not just in the winter on 'their' so
> > called trails across crown land. They are not willing to share, no
> > matter that we come along in the summer and clean up all the crap they
> > leave buried under the snow and clear trails from downed trees.
> > etc.......
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > SB wrote:
> >
> >>Back in BC we had published map books for "back country" excursions. They
> >>included forestry roads, bike trails (the main ones!) and lots of hiking
> >>trails and stuff.
> >>Not that I've been looking REAL hard here....but I haven't found any offroad
> >>map books here.
> >>
> >>Is it just not as popular as back there? Or not as many places to wheel
> >>(hope not!)....
> >>
> >>sb
> >>
> >><admin@ncgcanada.com> wrote in message
> >>news:6N%Ub.41467$9U5.1573869@news20.bellglobal.c om...
> >>
> >>>Welcome back to Ontario. When the spring comes I should be out all the
> >>>time. I enjoy the scenic stuff too and since I got rid of the YJ and not
> >>>have a Grand Cherokee I will be sticking away from the extreme stuff.
> >>
> >>This
> >>
> >>>summer should be pretty good I would think.
> >>>--
> >>>Checkout www.canadianoffroad.com!
> >>>
> >>>"SB" <steve.brady@rogers.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:YHVUb.10812$vD8.6253@news01.bloor.is.net.c able.rogers.com...
> >>>
> >>>>Hey guys...and in particular Mike Romain....
> >>>>
> >>>>I've just shifted my residence from BC back to Ontario.
> >>>>I had some good fun doing some wheelin and camping back there (gotta
> >>
> >>love
> >>
> >>>>those hidden lakes up in the mountains --breathtaking).
> >>>>
> >>>>Anyhow, got a chance to move back home to Ontario and am looking for
> >>
> >>tips
> >>
> >>>on
> >>>
> >>>>fun wheeling/camping. Gotta be near lakes (not in them!).
> >>>>
> >>>>I just got a stocker so nothing too cruel!
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks
> >>>>SB
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>