One rear wheel spinning on XJ
#31
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Re: One rear wheel spinning on XJ
The perches broke loose from the axle. I has nothing to do with his
driving habits, just a welding failure.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I don't get your point.
>
> Those photos are not clear enough to show anything except a Jeep and
> snow.
>
> Mike
driving habits, just a welding failure.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I don't get your point.
>
> Those photos are not clear enough to show anything except a Jeep and
> snow.
>
> Mike
#32
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Re: One rear wheel spinning on XJ
Well, the pinion angle is a little, um, odd...
/Peter
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40310598.D94B1513@sympatico.ca...
> I don't get your point.
>
> Those photos are not clear enough to show anything except a Jeep and
> snow.
>
> Mike
>
> Steve wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > Be very careful with the braking trick or this might happen to you:
> >
> > http://geocities.com/snatchbuckle/
> >
> > It got me unstuck a few times, but I had to learn the hard way not to
> > overdo it.
> >
> > Don't worry about frequent 2HI/4HI shifts at any legal speed. Remember
> > that windup is not an issue on straight sections. If the bare patches
> > are in the minority, the drive train can unwind when you're back on the
> > snow.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Bob wrote:
> > > Thanks for the info folks, I guess I was expecting a little more
traction
> > > than I'm getting; I'll try the braking trick, sounds excellent! I just
moved
> > > to the snow, and I've been driving my rear-wheel drive car around, and
I
> > > expected the Jeep to have at least that much traction in 2wd...but I
suppose
> > > the rear end is pretty light. What worried me about it is that before
I
> > > bought it I didn't know about the difference between Command and
Select
> > > Trac - I thought all Jeep 4x4's had a differential between the front
and
> > > rear axels. My concern has been when you are driving on a snowy
section
> > > you'd have it in 4H, but then if you hit a bare patch you have to
shift it
> > > to 2H so as not to wind up the transfer case. I'm sure I'll just get
used to
> > > it. It's old but in excellent condition, I'm going to order a 2-3"
lift kit
> > > and put maybe 31" tires on, I can't wait to use it up in the Rockies!
Thanks
> > > again,
> > >
> > > Bob
/Peter
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40310598.D94B1513@sympatico.ca...
> I don't get your point.
>
> Those photos are not clear enough to show anything except a Jeep and
> snow.
>
> Mike
>
> Steve wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > Be very careful with the braking trick or this might happen to you:
> >
> > http://geocities.com/snatchbuckle/
> >
> > It got me unstuck a few times, but I had to learn the hard way not to
> > overdo it.
> >
> > Don't worry about frequent 2HI/4HI shifts at any legal speed. Remember
> > that windup is not an issue on straight sections. If the bare patches
> > are in the minority, the drive train can unwind when you're back on the
> > snow.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Bob wrote:
> > > Thanks for the info folks, I guess I was expecting a little more
traction
> > > than I'm getting; I'll try the braking trick, sounds excellent! I just
moved
> > > to the snow, and I've been driving my rear-wheel drive car around, and
I
> > > expected the Jeep to have at least that much traction in 2wd...but I
suppose
> > > the rear end is pretty light. What worried me about it is that before
I
> > > bought it I didn't know about the difference between Command and
Select
> > > Trac - I thought all Jeep 4x4's had a differential between the front
and
> > > rear axels. My concern has been when you are driving on a snowy
section
> > > you'd have it in 4H, but then if you hit a bare patch you have to
shift it
> > > to 2H so as not to wind up the transfer case. I'm sure I'll just get
used to
> > > it. It's old but in excellent condition, I'm going to order a 2-3"
lift kit
> > > and put maybe 31" tires on, I can't wait to use it up in the Rockies!
Thanks
> > > again,
> > >
> > > Bob
#33
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Re: One rear wheel spinning on XJ
Well, the pinion angle is a little, um, odd...
/Peter
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40310598.D94B1513@sympatico.ca...
> I don't get your point.
>
> Those photos are not clear enough to show anything except a Jeep and
> snow.
>
> Mike
>
> Steve wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > Be very careful with the braking trick or this might happen to you:
> >
> > http://geocities.com/snatchbuckle/
> >
> > It got me unstuck a few times, but I had to learn the hard way not to
> > overdo it.
> >
> > Don't worry about frequent 2HI/4HI shifts at any legal speed. Remember
> > that windup is not an issue on straight sections. If the bare patches
> > are in the minority, the drive train can unwind when you're back on the
> > snow.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Bob wrote:
> > > Thanks for the info folks, I guess I was expecting a little more
traction
> > > than I'm getting; I'll try the braking trick, sounds excellent! I just
moved
> > > to the snow, and I've been driving my rear-wheel drive car around, and
I
> > > expected the Jeep to have at least that much traction in 2wd...but I
suppose
> > > the rear end is pretty light. What worried me about it is that before
I
> > > bought it I didn't know about the difference between Command and
Select
> > > Trac - I thought all Jeep 4x4's had a differential between the front
and
> > > rear axels. My concern has been when you are driving on a snowy
section
> > > you'd have it in 4H, but then if you hit a bare patch you have to
shift it
> > > to 2H so as not to wind up the transfer case. I'm sure I'll just get
used to
> > > it. It's old but in excellent condition, I'm going to order a 2-3"
lift kit
> > > and put maybe 31" tires on, I can't wait to use it up in the Rockies!
Thanks
> > > again,
> > >
> > > Bob
/Peter
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40310598.D94B1513@sympatico.ca...
> I don't get your point.
>
> Those photos are not clear enough to show anything except a Jeep and
> snow.
>
> Mike
>
> Steve wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > Be very careful with the braking trick or this might happen to you:
> >
> > http://geocities.com/snatchbuckle/
> >
> > It got me unstuck a few times, but I had to learn the hard way not to
> > overdo it.
> >
> > Don't worry about frequent 2HI/4HI shifts at any legal speed. Remember
> > that windup is not an issue on straight sections. If the bare patches
> > are in the minority, the drive train can unwind when you're back on the
> > snow.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Bob wrote:
> > > Thanks for the info folks, I guess I was expecting a little more
traction
> > > than I'm getting; I'll try the braking trick, sounds excellent! I just
moved
> > > to the snow, and I've been driving my rear-wheel drive car around, and
I
> > > expected the Jeep to have at least that much traction in 2wd...but I
suppose
> > > the rear end is pretty light. What worried me about it is that before
I
> > > bought it I didn't know about the difference between Command and
Select
> > > Trac - I thought all Jeep 4x4's had a differential between the front
and
> > > rear axels. My concern has been when you are driving on a snowy
section
> > > you'd have it in 4H, but then if you hit a bare patch you have to
shift it
> > > to 2H so as not to wind up the transfer case. I'm sure I'll just get
used to
> > > it. It's old but in excellent condition, I'm going to order a 2-3"
lift kit
> > > and put maybe 31" tires on, I can't wait to use it up in the Rockies!
Thanks
> > > again,
> > >
> > > Bob
#34
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Re: One rear wheel spinning on XJ
Well, the pinion angle is a little, um, odd...
/Peter
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40310598.D94B1513@sympatico.ca...
> I don't get your point.
>
> Those photos are not clear enough to show anything except a Jeep and
> snow.
>
> Mike
>
> Steve wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > Be very careful with the braking trick or this might happen to you:
> >
> > http://geocities.com/snatchbuckle/
> >
> > It got me unstuck a few times, but I had to learn the hard way not to
> > overdo it.
> >
> > Don't worry about frequent 2HI/4HI shifts at any legal speed. Remember
> > that windup is not an issue on straight sections. If the bare patches
> > are in the minority, the drive train can unwind when you're back on the
> > snow.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Bob wrote:
> > > Thanks for the info folks, I guess I was expecting a little more
traction
> > > than I'm getting; I'll try the braking trick, sounds excellent! I just
moved
> > > to the snow, and I've been driving my rear-wheel drive car around, and
I
> > > expected the Jeep to have at least that much traction in 2wd...but I
suppose
> > > the rear end is pretty light. What worried me about it is that before
I
> > > bought it I didn't know about the difference between Command and
Select
> > > Trac - I thought all Jeep 4x4's had a differential between the front
and
> > > rear axels. My concern has been when you are driving on a snowy
section
> > > you'd have it in 4H, but then if you hit a bare patch you have to
shift it
> > > to 2H so as not to wind up the transfer case. I'm sure I'll just get
used to
> > > it. It's old but in excellent condition, I'm going to order a 2-3"
lift kit
> > > and put maybe 31" tires on, I can't wait to use it up in the Rockies!
Thanks
> > > again,
> > >
> > > Bob
/Peter
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40310598.D94B1513@sympatico.ca...
> I don't get your point.
>
> Those photos are not clear enough to show anything except a Jeep and
> snow.
>
> Mike
>
> Steve wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > Be very careful with the braking trick or this might happen to you:
> >
> > http://geocities.com/snatchbuckle/
> >
> > It got me unstuck a few times, but I had to learn the hard way not to
> > overdo it.
> >
> > Don't worry about frequent 2HI/4HI shifts at any legal speed. Remember
> > that windup is not an issue on straight sections. If the bare patches
> > are in the minority, the drive train can unwind when you're back on the
> > snow.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Bob wrote:
> > > Thanks for the info folks, I guess I was expecting a little more
traction
> > > than I'm getting; I'll try the braking trick, sounds excellent! I just
moved
> > > to the snow, and I've been driving my rear-wheel drive car around, and
I
> > > expected the Jeep to have at least that much traction in 2wd...but I
suppose
> > > the rear end is pretty light. What worried me about it is that before
I
> > > bought it I didn't know about the difference between Command and
Select
> > > Trac - I thought all Jeep 4x4's had a differential between the front
and
> > > rear axels. My concern has been when you are driving on a snowy
section
> > > you'd have it in 4H, but then if you hit a bare patch you have to
shift it
> > > to 2H so as not to wind up the transfer case. I'm sure I'll just get
used to
> > > it. It's old but in excellent condition, I'm going to order a 2-3"
lift kit
> > > and put maybe 31" tires on, I can't wait to use it up in the Rockies!
Thanks
> > > again,
> > >
> > > Bob
#35
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Re: One rear wheel spinning on XJ
Good guess, but not quite.
I managed to spin the diff on the tubes. The pinion yoke strap bolts
sheared off and the pinion ended up nearly vertical. Also twisted the
splines on the t-case output slip shaft.
I was on the brakes and gas way too hard and one of my tires was firmly
immobilized on a stump. Obviously, applying the correct technique on a
slippery street will work great, but under certain circumstances you can
cause major strain if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
I spun the diff back in place (actually improved my pinion angle a bit)
and welded it. Its been holding up fine while I work on my D44 swap.
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> The perches broke loose from the axle. I has nothing to do with his
> driving habits, just a welding failure.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>I don't get your point.
>>
>>Those photos are not clear enough to show anything except a Jeep and
>>snow.
>>
>>Mike
I managed to spin the diff on the tubes. The pinion yoke strap bolts
sheared off and the pinion ended up nearly vertical. Also twisted the
splines on the t-case output slip shaft.
I was on the brakes and gas way too hard and one of my tires was firmly
immobilized on a stump. Obviously, applying the correct technique on a
slippery street will work great, but under certain circumstances you can
cause major strain if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
I spun the diff back in place (actually improved my pinion angle a bit)
and welded it. Its been holding up fine while I work on my D44 swap.
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> The perches broke loose from the axle. I has nothing to do with his
> driving habits, just a welding failure.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>I don't get your point.
>>
>>Those photos are not clear enough to show anything except a Jeep and
>>snow.
>>
>>Mike
#36
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Posts: n/a
Re: One rear wheel spinning on XJ
Good guess, but not quite.
I managed to spin the diff on the tubes. The pinion yoke strap bolts
sheared off and the pinion ended up nearly vertical. Also twisted the
splines on the t-case output slip shaft.
I was on the brakes and gas way too hard and one of my tires was firmly
immobilized on a stump. Obviously, applying the correct technique on a
slippery street will work great, but under certain circumstances you can
cause major strain if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
I spun the diff back in place (actually improved my pinion angle a bit)
and welded it. Its been holding up fine while I work on my D44 swap.
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> The perches broke loose from the axle. I has nothing to do with his
> driving habits, just a welding failure.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>I don't get your point.
>>
>>Those photos are not clear enough to show anything except a Jeep and
>>snow.
>>
>>Mike
I managed to spin the diff on the tubes. The pinion yoke strap bolts
sheared off and the pinion ended up nearly vertical. Also twisted the
splines on the t-case output slip shaft.
I was on the brakes and gas way too hard and one of my tires was firmly
immobilized on a stump. Obviously, applying the correct technique on a
slippery street will work great, but under certain circumstances you can
cause major strain if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
I spun the diff back in place (actually improved my pinion angle a bit)
and welded it. Its been holding up fine while I work on my D44 swap.
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> The perches broke loose from the axle. I has nothing to do with his
> driving habits, just a welding failure.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>I don't get your point.
>>
>>Those photos are not clear enough to show anything except a Jeep and
>>snow.
>>
>>Mike
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: One rear wheel spinning on XJ
Good guess, but not quite.
I managed to spin the diff on the tubes. The pinion yoke strap bolts
sheared off and the pinion ended up nearly vertical. Also twisted the
splines on the t-case output slip shaft.
I was on the brakes and gas way too hard and one of my tires was firmly
immobilized on a stump. Obviously, applying the correct technique on a
slippery street will work great, but under certain circumstances you can
cause major strain if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
I spun the diff back in place (actually improved my pinion angle a bit)
and welded it. Its been holding up fine while I work on my D44 swap.
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> The perches broke loose from the axle. I has nothing to do with his
> driving habits, just a welding failure.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>I don't get your point.
>>
>>Those photos are not clear enough to show anything except a Jeep and
>>snow.
>>
>>Mike
I managed to spin the diff on the tubes. The pinion yoke strap bolts
sheared off and the pinion ended up nearly vertical. Also twisted the
splines on the t-case output slip shaft.
I was on the brakes and gas way too hard and one of my tires was firmly
immobilized on a stump. Obviously, applying the correct technique on a
slippery street will work great, but under certain circumstances you can
cause major strain if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
I spun the diff back in place (actually improved my pinion angle a bit)
and welded it. Its been holding up fine while I work on my D44 swap.
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> The perches broke loose from the axle. I has nothing to do with his
> driving habits, just a welding failure.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>I don't get your point.
>>
>>Those photos are not clear enough to show anything except a Jeep and
>>snow.
>>
>>Mike
#38
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Re: One rear wheel spinning on XJ
Pictures of many broken spot welds:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/ford8_8/ I weld a ring to the
housing reinforcing the cast iron housing too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Good guess, but not quite.
>
> I managed to spin the diff on the tubes. The pinion yoke strap bolts
> sheared off and the pinion ended up nearly vertical. Also twisted the
> splines on the t-case output slip shaft.
>
> I was on the brakes and gas way too hard and one of my tires was firmly
> immobilized on a stump. Obviously, applying the correct technique on a
> slippery street will work great, but under certain circumstances you can
> cause major strain if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
>
> I spun the diff back in place (actually improved my pinion angle a bit)
> and welded it. Its been holding up fine while I work on my D44 swap.
>
> Steve
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/ford8_8/ I weld a ring to the
housing reinforcing the cast iron housing too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Good guess, but not quite.
>
> I managed to spin the diff on the tubes. The pinion yoke strap bolts
> sheared off and the pinion ended up nearly vertical. Also twisted the
> splines on the t-case output slip shaft.
>
> I was on the brakes and gas way too hard and one of my tires was firmly
> immobilized on a stump. Obviously, applying the correct technique on a
> slippery street will work great, but under certain circumstances you can
> cause major strain if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
>
> I spun the diff back in place (actually improved my pinion angle a bit)
> and welded it. Its been holding up fine while I work on my D44 swap.
>
> Steve
#39
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Posts: n/a
Re: One rear wheel spinning on XJ
Pictures of many broken spot welds:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/ford8_8/ I weld a ring to the
housing reinforcing the cast iron housing too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Good guess, but not quite.
>
> I managed to spin the diff on the tubes. The pinion yoke strap bolts
> sheared off and the pinion ended up nearly vertical. Also twisted the
> splines on the t-case output slip shaft.
>
> I was on the brakes and gas way too hard and one of my tires was firmly
> immobilized on a stump. Obviously, applying the correct technique on a
> slippery street will work great, but under certain circumstances you can
> cause major strain if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
>
> I spun the diff back in place (actually improved my pinion angle a bit)
> and welded it. Its been holding up fine while I work on my D44 swap.
>
> Steve
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/ford8_8/ I weld a ring to the
housing reinforcing the cast iron housing too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Good guess, but not quite.
>
> I managed to spin the diff on the tubes. The pinion yoke strap bolts
> sheared off and the pinion ended up nearly vertical. Also twisted the
> splines on the t-case output slip shaft.
>
> I was on the brakes and gas way too hard and one of my tires was firmly
> immobilized on a stump. Obviously, applying the correct technique on a
> slippery street will work great, but under certain circumstances you can
> cause major strain if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
>
> I spun the diff back in place (actually improved my pinion angle a bit)
> and welded it. Its been holding up fine while I work on my D44 swap.
>
> Steve
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: One rear wheel spinning on XJ
Pictures of many broken spot welds:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/ford8_8/ I weld a ring to the
housing reinforcing the cast iron housing too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Good guess, but not quite.
>
> I managed to spin the diff on the tubes. The pinion yoke strap bolts
> sheared off and the pinion ended up nearly vertical. Also twisted the
> splines on the t-case output slip shaft.
>
> I was on the brakes and gas way too hard and one of my tires was firmly
> immobilized on a stump. Obviously, applying the correct technique on a
> slippery street will work great, but under certain circumstances you can
> cause major strain if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
>
> I spun the diff back in place (actually improved my pinion angle a bit)
> and welded it. Its been holding up fine while I work on my D44 swap.
>
> Steve
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/ford8_8/ I weld a ring to the
housing reinforcing the cast iron housing too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Good guess, but not quite.
>
> I managed to spin the diff on the tubes. The pinion yoke strap bolts
> sheared off and the pinion ended up nearly vertical. Also twisted the
> splines on the t-case output slip shaft.
>
> I was on the brakes and gas way too hard and one of my tires was firmly
> immobilized on a stump. Obviously, applying the correct technique on a
> slippery street will work great, but under certain circumstances you can
> cause major strain if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
>
> I spun the diff back in place (actually improved my pinion angle a bit)
> and welded it. Its been holding up fine while I work on my D44 swap.
>
> Steve