OK, I give up, where is it?
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Re: OK, I give up, where is it?
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:01:02 -0800 in <41FEAA9E.1334E0F8@***.net>,
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> graced the world with this
thought:
> I would guess your temperature sending unit should be on the
>thermostat housing at front end of head:
>http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/en...adconv/156.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
You'd think, wouldn't ya? The front of my engine looks different than
yours, or seems to, at any rate. Too hard to park it in here and take
a look.
If I could see the valve I'm talking about in your pic, it would go in
vertically (in the head), on the side this pic was taken from, right
behind the valve cover, with a wire attached to the top. It's not
terribly big.
Now, the real bitch here is that I put the damn thing in about 10
years ago myself. Duh. I think I'm getting old faster than I'd
planned.
>bizbee wrote:
>>
>> I have a '80 CJ5, with a 258. Long ago I put in a Borg-Warner temp
>> gauge which has performed fine.
>> I took it to get it smogged a couple weeks ago, and suddenly the gauge
>> doesn't work. OK, could be coincidence, but I figure someone knocked a
>> wire loose while they were messing with it (it needed work,
>> naturally). OK, The problem is... <where the hell is the temperature
>> sensor?!> I'm off to a great start. Is it on the back of the head on
>> the drivers' side (toward the firewall from the carburetor)? There's
>> something there with what appears to be a ground wire. It's the only
>> purpose I can assign to it, I don't know what else it would be doing.
>>
>> If this <is> it, is there any way of checking to see if it's gone out
>> (assuming everything is connected) before I go plunk down another $100
>> for a gauge?
>> And yeah, I know I could tear it all apart and trace everything from
>> the gauge forward, but I wanted to check the connections first. Now I
>> can't even figure out where the are, and this is the place that always
>> seems to bail me out!
>>
>> Of course, looking in my Chilton's, it doesn't even have a listing in
>> the directory for the temperature sensor, gauge, or anything like
>> that.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> graced the world with this
thought:
> I would guess your temperature sending unit should be on the
>thermostat housing at front end of head:
>http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/en...adconv/156.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
You'd think, wouldn't ya? The front of my engine looks different than
yours, or seems to, at any rate. Too hard to park it in here and take
a look.
If I could see the valve I'm talking about in your pic, it would go in
vertically (in the head), on the side this pic was taken from, right
behind the valve cover, with a wire attached to the top. It's not
terribly big.
Now, the real bitch here is that I put the damn thing in about 10
years ago myself. Duh. I think I'm getting old faster than I'd
planned.
>bizbee wrote:
>>
>> I have a '80 CJ5, with a 258. Long ago I put in a Borg-Warner temp
>> gauge which has performed fine.
>> I took it to get it smogged a couple weeks ago, and suddenly the gauge
>> doesn't work. OK, could be coincidence, but I figure someone knocked a
>> wire loose while they were messing with it (it needed work,
>> naturally). OK, The problem is... <where the hell is the temperature
>> sensor?!> I'm off to a great start. Is it on the back of the head on
>> the drivers' side (toward the firewall from the carburetor)? There's
>> something there with what appears to be a ground wire. It's the only
>> purpose I can assign to it, I don't know what else it would be doing.
>>
>> If this <is> it, is there any way of checking to see if it's gone out
>> (assuming everything is connected) before I go plunk down another $100
>> for a gauge?
>> And yeah, I know I could tear it all apart and trace everything from
>> the gauge forward, but I wanted to check the connections first. Now I
>> can't even figure out where the are, and this is the place that always
>> seems to bail me out!
>>
>> Of course, looking in my Chilton's, it doesn't even have a listing in
>> the directory for the temperature sensor, gauge, or anything like
>> that.
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Re: OK, I give up, where is it?
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:01:02 -0800 in <41FEAA9E.1334E0F8@***.net>,
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> graced the world with this
thought:
> I would guess your temperature sending unit should be on the
>thermostat housing at front end of head:
>http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/en...adconv/156.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
You'd think, wouldn't ya? The front of my engine looks different than
yours, or seems to, at any rate. Too hard to park it in here and take
a look.
If I could see the valve I'm talking about in your pic, it would go in
vertically (in the head), on the side this pic was taken from, right
behind the valve cover, with a wire attached to the top. It's not
terribly big.
Now, the real bitch here is that I put the damn thing in about 10
years ago myself. Duh. I think I'm getting old faster than I'd
planned.
>bizbee wrote:
>>
>> I have a '80 CJ5, with a 258. Long ago I put in a Borg-Warner temp
>> gauge which has performed fine.
>> I took it to get it smogged a couple weeks ago, and suddenly the gauge
>> doesn't work. OK, could be coincidence, but I figure someone knocked a
>> wire loose while they were messing with it (it needed work,
>> naturally). OK, The problem is... <where the hell is the temperature
>> sensor?!> I'm off to a great start. Is it on the back of the head on
>> the drivers' side (toward the firewall from the carburetor)? There's
>> something there with what appears to be a ground wire. It's the only
>> purpose I can assign to it, I don't know what else it would be doing.
>>
>> If this <is> it, is there any way of checking to see if it's gone out
>> (assuming everything is connected) before I go plunk down another $100
>> for a gauge?
>> And yeah, I know I could tear it all apart and trace everything from
>> the gauge forward, but I wanted to check the connections first. Now I
>> can't even figure out where the are, and this is the place that always
>> seems to bail me out!
>>
>> Of course, looking in my Chilton's, it doesn't even have a listing in
>> the directory for the temperature sensor, gauge, or anything like
>> that.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> graced the world with this
thought:
> I would guess your temperature sending unit should be on the
>thermostat housing at front end of head:
>http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/en...adconv/156.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
You'd think, wouldn't ya? The front of my engine looks different than
yours, or seems to, at any rate. Too hard to park it in here and take
a look.
If I could see the valve I'm talking about in your pic, it would go in
vertically (in the head), on the side this pic was taken from, right
behind the valve cover, with a wire attached to the top. It's not
terribly big.
Now, the real bitch here is that I put the damn thing in about 10
years ago myself. Duh. I think I'm getting old faster than I'd
planned.
>bizbee wrote:
>>
>> I have a '80 CJ5, with a 258. Long ago I put in a Borg-Warner temp
>> gauge which has performed fine.
>> I took it to get it smogged a couple weeks ago, and suddenly the gauge
>> doesn't work. OK, could be coincidence, but I figure someone knocked a
>> wire loose while they were messing with it (it needed work,
>> naturally). OK, The problem is... <where the hell is the temperature
>> sensor?!> I'm off to a great start. Is it on the back of the head on
>> the drivers' side (toward the firewall from the carburetor)? There's
>> something there with what appears to be a ground wire. It's the only
>> purpose I can assign to it, I don't know what else it would be doing.
>>
>> If this <is> it, is there any way of checking to see if it's gone out
>> (assuming everything is connected) before I go plunk down another $100
>> for a gauge?
>> And yeah, I know I could tear it all apart and trace everything from
>> the gauge forward, but I wanted to check the connections first. Now I
>> can't even figure out where the are, and this is the place that always
>> seems to bail me out!
>>
>> Of course, looking in my Chilton's, it doesn't even have a listing in
>> the directory for the temperature sensor, gauge, or anything like
>> that.
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Re: OK, I give up, where is it?
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:01:02 -0800 in <41FEAA9E.1334E0F8@***.net>,
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> graced the world with this
thought:
> I would guess your temperature sending unit should be on the
>thermostat housing at front end of head:
>http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/en...adconv/156.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
You'd think, wouldn't ya? The front of my engine looks different than
yours, or seems to, at any rate. Too hard to park it in here and take
a look.
If I could see the valve I'm talking about in your pic, it would go in
vertically (in the head), on the side this pic was taken from, right
behind the valve cover, with a wire attached to the top. It's not
terribly big.
Now, the real bitch here is that I put the damn thing in about 10
years ago myself. Duh. I think I'm getting old faster than I'd
planned.
>bizbee wrote:
>>
>> I have a '80 CJ5, with a 258. Long ago I put in a Borg-Warner temp
>> gauge which has performed fine.
>> I took it to get it smogged a couple weeks ago, and suddenly the gauge
>> doesn't work. OK, could be coincidence, but I figure someone knocked a
>> wire loose while they were messing with it (it needed work,
>> naturally). OK, The problem is... <where the hell is the temperature
>> sensor?!> I'm off to a great start. Is it on the back of the head on
>> the drivers' side (toward the firewall from the carburetor)? There's
>> something there with what appears to be a ground wire. It's the only
>> purpose I can assign to it, I don't know what else it would be doing.
>>
>> If this <is> it, is there any way of checking to see if it's gone out
>> (assuming everything is connected) before I go plunk down another $100
>> for a gauge?
>> And yeah, I know I could tear it all apart and trace everything from
>> the gauge forward, but I wanted to check the connections first. Now I
>> can't even figure out where the are, and this is the place that always
>> seems to bail me out!
>>
>> Of course, looking in my Chilton's, it doesn't even have a listing in
>> the directory for the temperature sensor, gauge, or anything like
>> that.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> graced the world with this
thought:
> I would guess your temperature sending unit should be on the
>thermostat housing at front end of head:
>http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/en...adconv/156.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
You'd think, wouldn't ya? The front of my engine looks different than
yours, or seems to, at any rate. Too hard to park it in here and take
a look.
If I could see the valve I'm talking about in your pic, it would go in
vertically (in the head), on the side this pic was taken from, right
behind the valve cover, with a wire attached to the top. It's not
terribly big.
Now, the real bitch here is that I put the damn thing in about 10
years ago myself. Duh. I think I'm getting old faster than I'd
planned.
>bizbee wrote:
>>
>> I have a '80 CJ5, with a 258. Long ago I put in a Borg-Warner temp
>> gauge which has performed fine.
>> I took it to get it smogged a couple weeks ago, and suddenly the gauge
>> doesn't work. OK, could be coincidence, but I figure someone knocked a
>> wire loose while they were messing with it (it needed work,
>> naturally). OK, The problem is... <where the hell is the temperature
>> sensor?!> I'm off to a great start. Is it on the back of the head on
>> the drivers' side (toward the firewall from the carburetor)? There's
>> something there with what appears to be a ground wire. It's the only
>> purpose I can assign to it, I don't know what else it would be doing.
>>
>> If this <is> it, is there any way of checking to see if it's gone out
>> (assuming everything is connected) before I go plunk down another $100
>> for a gauge?
>> And yeah, I know I could tear it all apart and trace everything from
>> the gauge forward, but I wanted to check the connections first. Now I
>> can't even figure out where the are, and this is the place that always
>> seems to bail me out!
>>
>> Of course, looking in my Chilton's, it doesn't even have a listing in
>> the directory for the temperature sensor, gauge, or anything like
>> that.
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Re: OK, I give up, where is it?
OK, another question concerning this thing... if the sender is AFU,
and I know this is kind of a vague question, will the standard Jeep
sending unit replacement be the one to replace it with, or am I going
to have to track down one to go with the gauge? I guess what I'm
saying here is, is there a standard that companies generally follow?
I could ask at the parts place, I suppose, but I figure people in this
newsgroup are more intelligent, for the most part, than the part time
guy that isn't even as old as the vehicle I'm working on.
and I know this is kind of a vague question, will the standard Jeep
sending unit replacement be the one to replace it with, or am I going
to have to track down one to go with the gauge? I guess what I'm
saying here is, is there a standard that companies generally follow?
I could ask at the parts place, I suppose, but I figure people in this
newsgroup are more intelligent, for the most part, than the part time
guy that isn't even as old as the vehicle I'm working on.
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Re: OK, I give up, where is it?
OK, another question concerning this thing... if the sender is AFU,
and I know this is kind of a vague question, will the standard Jeep
sending unit replacement be the one to replace it with, or am I going
to have to track down one to go with the gauge? I guess what I'm
saying here is, is there a standard that companies generally follow?
I could ask at the parts place, I suppose, but I figure people in this
newsgroup are more intelligent, for the most part, than the part time
guy that isn't even as old as the vehicle I'm working on.
and I know this is kind of a vague question, will the standard Jeep
sending unit replacement be the one to replace it with, or am I going
to have to track down one to go with the gauge? I guess what I'm
saying here is, is there a standard that companies generally follow?
I could ask at the parts place, I suppose, but I figure people in this
newsgroup are more intelligent, for the most part, than the part time
guy that isn't even as old as the vehicle I'm working on.
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Re: OK, I give up, where is it?
OK, another question concerning this thing... if the sender is AFU,
and I know this is kind of a vague question, will the standard Jeep
sending unit replacement be the one to replace it with, or am I going
to have to track down one to go with the gauge? I guess what I'm
saying here is, is there a standard that companies generally follow?
I could ask at the parts place, I suppose, but I figure people in this
newsgroup are more intelligent, for the most part, than the part time
guy that isn't even as old as the vehicle I'm working on.
and I know this is kind of a vague question, will the standard Jeep
sending unit replacement be the one to replace it with, or am I going
to have to track down one to go with the gauge? I guess what I'm
saying here is, is there a standard that companies generally follow?
I could ask at the parts place, I suppose, but I figure people in this
newsgroup are more intelligent, for the most part, than the part time
guy that isn't even as old as the vehicle I'm working on.
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Re: OK, I give up, where is it?
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 17:28:40 GMT, bizbee <tuberoo@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>OK, another question concerning this thing... if the sender is AFU,
>and I know this is kind of a vague question, will the standard Jeep
>sending unit replacement be the one to replace it with, or am I going
>to have to track down one to go with the gauge? I guess what I'm
>saying here is, is there a standard that companies generally follow?
>
>I could ask at the parts place, I suppose, but I figure people in this
>newsgroup are more intelligent, for the most part, than the part time
>guy that isn't even as old as the vehicle I'm working on.
Geeze, a whole new gauge kit is what? Like maybe $20? I'd just
replace the whole thing.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLTC 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep Wrangler YJ
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51, SPUNGER#2
wrote:
>OK, another question concerning this thing... if the sender is AFU,
>and I know this is kind of a vague question, will the standard Jeep
>sending unit replacement be the one to replace it with, or am I going
>to have to track down one to go with the gauge? I guess what I'm
>saying here is, is there a standard that companies generally follow?
>
>I could ask at the parts place, I suppose, but I figure people in this
>newsgroup are more intelligent, for the most part, than the part time
>guy that isn't even as old as the vehicle I'm working on.
Geeze, a whole new gauge kit is what? Like maybe $20? I'd just
replace the whole thing.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLTC 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep Wrangler YJ
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51, SPUNGER#2
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Re: OK, I give up, where is it?
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 17:28:40 GMT, bizbee <tuberoo@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>OK, another question concerning this thing... if the sender is AFU,
>and I know this is kind of a vague question, will the standard Jeep
>sending unit replacement be the one to replace it with, or am I going
>to have to track down one to go with the gauge? I guess what I'm
>saying here is, is there a standard that companies generally follow?
>
>I could ask at the parts place, I suppose, but I figure people in this
>newsgroup are more intelligent, for the most part, than the part time
>guy that isn't even as old as the vehicle I'm working on.
Geeze, a whole new gauge kit is what? Like maybe $20? I'd just
replace the whole thing.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLTC 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep Wrangler YJ
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51, SPUNGER#2
wrote:
>OK, another question concerning this thing... if the sender is AFU,
>and I know this is kind of a vague question, will the standard Jeep
>sending unit replacement be the one to replace it with, or am I going
>to have to track down one to go with the gauge? I guess what I'm
>saying here is, is there a standard that companies generally follow?
>
>I could ask at the parts place, I suppose, but I figure people in this
>newsgroup are more intelligent, for the most part, than the part time
>guy that isn't even as old as the vehicle I'm working on.
Geeze, a whole new gauge kit is what? Like maybe $20? I'd just
replace the whole thing.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLTC 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep Wrangler YJ
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51, SPUNGER#2
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Re: OK, I give up, where is it?
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 17:28:40 GMT, bizbee <tuberoo@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>OK, another question concerning this thing... if the sender is AFU,
>and I know this is kind of a vague question, will the standard Jeep
>sending unit replacement be the one to replace it with, or am I going
>to have to track down one to go with the gauge? I guess what I'm
>saying here is, is there a standard that companies generally follow?
>
>I could ask at the parts place, I suppose, but I figure people in this
>newsgroup are more intelligent, for the most part, than the part time
>guy that isn't even as old as the vehicle I'm working on.
Geeze, a whole new gauge kit is what? Like maybe $20? I'd just
replace the whole thing.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLTC 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep Wrangler YJ
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51, SPUNGER#2
wrote:
>OK, another question concerning this thing... if the sender is AFU,
>and I know this is kind of a vague question, will the standard Jeep
>sending unit replacement be the one to replace it with, or am I going
>to have to track down one to go with the gauge? I guess what I'm
>saying here is, is there a standard that companies generally follow?
>
>I could ask at the parts place, I suppose, but I figure people in this
>newsgroup are more intelligent, for the most part, than the part time
>guy that isn't even as old as the vehicle I'm working on.
Geeze, a whole new gauge kit is what? Like maybe $20? I'd just
replace the whole thing.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLTC 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep Wrangler YJ
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51, SPUNGER#2
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Re: OK, I give up, where is it?
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 04:22:57 -0600 in
<jqu301pte9cbr9k1v3ksoubtbir2lnkt27@4ax.com>, Old Crow
<walliscrow@yahoo.com> graced the world with this thought:
>On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 17:28:40 GMT, bizbee <tuberoo@earthlink.net>
>wrote:
>
>>OK, another question concerning this thing... if the sender is AFU,
>>and I know this is kind of a vague question, will the standard Jeep
>>sending unit replacement be the one to replace it with, or am I going
>>to have to track down one to go with the gauge? I guess what I'm
>>saying here is, is there a standard that companies generally follow?
>>
>>I could ask at the parts place, I suppose, but I figure people in this
>>newsgroup are more intelligent, for the most part, than the part time
>>guy that isn't even as old as the vehicle I'm working on.
>
>Geeze, a whole new gauge kit is what? Like maybe $20? I'd just
>replace the whole thing.
Last time I bought this particular gauge, it was $95, I had to wait
two weeks for it to come in and drive thirty miles to pick it up. And
it didn't have a sensor with it--that's why I was wondering.
no, it wasn't $20.
<jqu301pte9cbr9k1v3ksoubtbir2lnkt27@4ax.com>, Old Crow
<walliscrow@yahoo.com> graced the world with this thought:
>On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 17:28:40 GMT, bizbee <tuberoo@earthlink.net>
>wrote:
>
>>OK, another question concerning this thing... if the sender is AFU,
>>and I know this is kind of a vague question, will the standard Jeep
>>sending unit replacement be the one to replace it with, or am I going
>>to have to track down one to go with the gauge? I guess what I'm
>>saying here is, is there a standard that companies generally follow?
>>
>>I could ask at the parts place, I suppose, but I figure people in this
>>newsgroup are more intelligent, for the most part, than the part time
>>guy that isn't even as old as the vehicle I'm working on.
>
>Geeze, a whole new gauge kit is what? Like maybe $20? I'd just
>replace the whole thing.
Last time I bought this particular gauge, it was $95, I had to wait
two weeks for it to come in and drive thirty miles to pick it up. And
it didn't have a sensor with it--that's why I was wondering.
no, it wasn't $20.