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Lon Stowell Sep 19, 2003 03:13 PM

Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
 
Approximately 9/18/03 22:51, DougW uttered for posterity:

> And also remember to mark the distributor position and rotor position
> before pulling it. :) Goes to Murphy's Law. (:


Doesn't help. If you mark it, the first time you blink,
Murphy's ghost moves the mark anyway. Just give up and
realize that no matter how careful you are, and no matter
in what position you install it, the first one *will* be
wrong and you'll bust a knuckle fixing it.


kmurphy Sep 19, 2003 04:12 PM

Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
 
I've pulled the dist. hooked up the drill I can hear the oil move but
not up to the heads.I pulled the rockerarms no oil to the tower.about
1993 the last owner replaced the lifters cam and bearings but only has
600 miles on motor today could the front bearing be in
beckwards???maybe I should just rebuild the whole mess but the motor
sounds good???and only has 92,600 org. miles.

kmurphy Sep 19, 2003 04:12 PM

Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
 
I've pulled the dist. hooked up the drill I can hear the oil move but
not up to the heads.I pulled the rockerarms no oil to the tower.about
1993 the last owner replaced the lifters cam and bearings but only has
600 miles on motor today could the front bearing be in
beckwards???maybe I should just rebuild the whole mess but the motor
sounds good???and only has 92,600 org. miles.

DougW Sep 19, 2003 04:17 PM

Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
 
kmurphy wrote:
> I've pulled the dist. hooked up the drill I can hear the oil move but
> not up to the heads.I pulled the rockerarms no oil to the tower.about
> 1993 the last owner replaced the lifters cam and bearings but only has
> 600 miles on motor today could the front bearing be in
> beckwards???maybe I should just rebuild the whole mess but the motor
> sounds good???and only has 92,600 org. miles.


Sounds like the pump isn't primed or your turning it
pump the wrong way.

Not sure if you can pour oil down the filter intake
or if your going to have to drop the pan and pack the
pump with valoline.

--
DougW



DougW Sep 19, 2003 04:17 PM

Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
 
kmurphy wrote:
> I've pulled the dist. hooked up the drill I can hear the oil move but
> not up to the heads.I pulled the rockerarms no oil to the tower.about
> 1993 the last owner replaced the lifters cam and bearings but only has
> 600 miles on motor today could the front bearing be in
> beckwards???maybe I should just rebuild the whole mess but the motor
> sounds good???and only has 92,600 org. miles.


Sounds like the pump isn't primed or your turning it
pump the wrong way.

Not sure if you can pour oil down the filter intake
or if your going to have to drop the pan and pack the
pump with valoline.

--
DougW



Mike Romain Sep 19, 2003 05:03 PM

Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
 
Lon Stowell wrote:
>
> Approximately 9/18/03 22:51, DougW uttered for posterity:
>
> > And also remember to mark the distributor position and rotor position
> > before pulling it. :) Goes to Murphy's Law. (:

>
> Doesn't help. If you mark it, the first time you blink,
> Murphy's ghost moves the mark anyway. Just give up and
> realize that no matter how careful you are, and no matter
> in what position you install it, the first one *will* be
> wrong and you'll bust a knuckle fixing it.



LOL!

How true!

I even try marking where the rotor stops turning as you pull up and
still need two shots usually.

At least the OP's pump is under the timing cover, so can be packed that
way.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain Sep 19, 2003 05:03 PM

Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
 
Lon Stowell wrote:
>
> Approximately 9/18/03 22:51, DougW uttered for posterity:
>
> > And also remember to mark the distributor position and rotor position
> > before pulling it. :) Goes to Murphy's Law. (:

>
> Doesn't help. If you mark it, the first time you blink,
> Murphy's ghost moves the mark anyway. Just give up and
> realize that no matter how careful you are, and no matter
> in what position you install it, the first one *will* be
> wrong and you'll bust a knuckle fixing it.



LOL!

How true!

I even try marking where the rotor stops turning as you pull up and
still need two shots usually.

At least the OP's pump is under the timing cover, so can be packed that
way.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain Sep 19, 2003 05:08 PM

Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
 
Your pump is hooked to the timing chain isn't it? I don't know of any
way to prime that short of removing the timing cover and packing it with
Vaseline like my Haynes manual says.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

kmurphy wrote:
>
> I've pulled the dist. hooked up the drill I can hear the oil move but
> not up to the heads.I pulled the rockerarms no oil to the tower.about
> 1993 the last owner replaced the lifters cam and bearings but only has
> 600 miles on motor today could the front bearing be in
> beckwards???maybe I should just rebuild the whole mess but the motor
> sounds good???and only has 92,600 org. miles.


Mike Romain Sep 19, 2003 05:08 PM

Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
 
Your pump is hooked to the timing chain isn't it? I don't know of any
way to prime that short of removing the timing cover and packing it with
Vaseline like my Haynes manual says.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

kmurphy wrote:
>
> I've pulled the dist. hooked up the drill I can hear the oil move but
> not up to the heads.I pulled the rockerarms no oil to the tower.about
> 1993 the last owner replaced the lifters cam and bearings but only has
> 600 miles on motor today could the front bearing be in
> beckwards???maybe I should just rebuild the whole mess but the motor
> sounds good???and only has 92,600 org. miles.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III Sep 19, 2003 08:11 PM

Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
 
Hi Mike,
The pump is external and driven off the distributor, which is
driven off a gear at the forward most cam:
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/cj3b/Pho.../Dauntless.gif The
distributor gear looks like any other GM, so you just pull the
distributor and use a drill.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Your pump is hooked to the timing chain isn't it? I don't know of any
> way to prime that short of removing the timing cover and packing it with
> Vaseline like my Haynes manual says.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's



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