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Earle Horton 08-13-2005 01:44 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
Good point, but lots of stuff is broken, with people saying it isn't.

I think you're wrong about liberals. They don't think, that policy changes
won't have any negative effects. They just don't give a damn. I have
learned to be suspicious of liberals too, especially when they want to play
with my money.

Earle

"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:71912$42fe0d20$453daacc$32305@FUSE.NET...
> > I thought that conservatives, were supposed to "conserve" stuff. I may

be
> > confused.

>
> No, they just think that you shouldn't fix stuff that isn't broken.

Liberals
> seem to invision some Utopia, thinking that making policy changes to

strive
> for such a society won't have any negative effects. However, with just

about
> every change, there is both positve and negative effects. Their supposed
> visionary thinking just screws the world up.
>
>




Billy Ray 08-13-2005 02:58 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 

I have given up on politicians making things better, I have always voted as
an Independent. I vote for the man I think is going to screw thing up the
least.




> You don't vote for the best person, you vote for the least dangerous.
>
> --
> DougW
>




Billy Ray 08-13-2005 02:58 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 

I have given up on politicians making things better, I have always voted as
an Independent. I vote for the man I think is going to screw thing up the
least.




> You don't vote for the best person, you vote for the least dangerous.
>
> --
> DougW
>




Billy Ray 08-13-2005 02:58 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 

I have given up on politicians making things better, I have always voted as
an Independent. I vote for the man I think is going to screw thing up the
least.




> You don't vote for the best person, you vote for the least dangerous.
>
> --
> DougW
>




Billy Ray 08-13-2005 02:58 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 

I have given up on politicians making things better, I have always voted as
an Independent. I vote for the man I think is going to screw thing up the
least.




> You don't vote for the best person, you vote for the least dangerous.
>
> --
> DougW
>




Lee Ayrton 08-13-2005 03:26 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
Sonny, I was buying gas when it cost a tad more than three bits a gallon
-- the taxes on a gallon of gas is more than that now. "No Gas" signs
are a personal memory.

If I'm burning 20 gallons a week I'm burning 20 gallons a week. The
demand is the same, no matter how large or small the purchase lot is.


tim bur wrote:
> yes u are burning the same 20 gallons a week but if gas was say a buc a gallon it would be
> no big deal to wait till the end of the week to get gas, think bac to when it was. but people
> now have a mind set they will save cash by topping off their tanks knowing that prices are
> going to rise, and because of this mindset, they are now buying 5 gallons more a week topping
> off the tank instead of waiting to get fuel when the tank gets low so damand goes up big time
> it's a simple case of supply and demand. think this is bull ---- remember princess di's
> beenie babies when she died they were upwards of 500 buc's if you could find them now they are
> a dime a dozen
> a friend of mind who works for a oil company tell me that sweet crude is no lomger used to
> make gas and the refiners now use sour crude and it's the price of that oil per barrel thats
> even higher something like 75.00 bucs a barrel he's say it will hit 100.00 by the end of summer
> then it's going to drop big time. i hope hes right
>
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
>
>>Please explain: If I'm burning 20 gal/week, how does buying 20 gallons
>>once a week instead of 5 gallons a day reduce demand.
>>
>>tim bur wrote:
>>
>>>lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus reducing a higher
>>>demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow down and keep our
>>>vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete and cut down ashphalt
>>>that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil comes down after 3
>>>months of of causing a glut in the market
>>> gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to stockpile it
>>>
>>>Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>From another thread that was veering off-topic...
>>>
>>>>Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for $1.50/gallon.
>>>>Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon in another
>>>>thread.
>>>>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business
>>>>
>>>>At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most countries on
>>>>the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L Canadian for
>>>>diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid $2.54/gallon
>>>>US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still
>>>>$2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California.
>>>>
>>>>It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too much for our
>>>>overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol".
>>>>
>>>>Let's keep things in perspective
>>>>In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42
>>>>gallons)...
>>>>
>>>>A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents unlike the
>>>>thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade for 25
>>>>cents a cup.
>>>>
>>>>Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd jump at a
>>>>chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19 cents.
>>>>
>>>>If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude... about 9
>>>>cents.
>>>
>>>

>


Lee Ayrton 08-13-2005 03:26 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
Sonny, I was buying gas when it cost a tad more than three bits a gallon
-- the taxes on a gallon of gas is more than that now. "No Gas" signs
are a personal memory.

If I'm burning 20 gallons a week I'm burning 20 gallons a week. The
demand is the same, no matter how large or small the purchase lot is.


tim bur wrote:
> yes u are burning the same 20 gallons a week but if gas was say a buc a gallon it would be
> no big deal to wait till the end of the week to get gas, think bac to when it was. but people
> now have a mind set they will save cash by topping off their tanks knowing that prices are
> going to rise, and because of this mindset, they are now buying 5 gallons more a week topping
> off the tank instead of waiting to get fuel when the tank gets low so damand goes up big time
> it's a simple case of supply and demand. think this is bull ---- remember princess di's
> beenie babies when she died they were upwards of 500 buc's if you could find them now they are
> a dime a dozen
> a friend of mind who works for a oil company tell me that sweet crude is no lomger used to
> make gas and the refiners now use sour crude and it's the price of that oil per barrel thats
> even higher something like 75.00 bucs a barrel he's say it will hit 100.00 by the end of summer
> then it's going to drop big time. i hope hes right
>
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
>
>>Please explain: If I'm burning 20 gal/week, how does buying 20 gallons
>>once a week instead of 5 gallons a day reduce demand.
>>
>>tim bur wrote:
>>
>>>lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus reducing a higher
>>>demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow down and keep our
>>>vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete and cut down ashphalt
>>>that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil comes down after 3
>>>months of of causing a glut in the market
>>> gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to stockpile it
>>>
>>>Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>From another thread that was veering off-topic...
>>>
>>>>Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for $1.50/gallon.
>>>>Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon in another
>>>>thread.
>>>>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business
>>>>
>>>>At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most countries on
>>>>the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L Canadian for
>>>>diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid $2.54/gallon
>>>>US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still
>>>>$2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California.
>>>>
>>>>It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too much for our
>>>>overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol".
>>>>
>>>>Let's keep things in perspective
>>>>In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42
>>>>gallons)...
>>>>
>>>>A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents unlike the
>>>>thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade for 25
>>>>cents a cup.
>>>>
>>>>Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd jump at a
>>>>chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19 cents.
>>>>
>>>>If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude... about 9
>>>>cents.
>>>
>>>

>


Lee Ayrton 08-13-2005 03:26 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
Sonny, I was buying gas when it cost a tad more than three bits a gallon
-- the taxes on a gallon of gas is more than that now. "No Gas" signs
are a personal memory.

If I'm burning 20 gallons a week I'm burning 20 gallons a week. The
demand is the same, no matter how large or small the purchase lot is.


tim bur wrote:
> yes u are burning the same 20 gallons a week but if gas was say a buc a gallon it would be
> no big deal to wait till the end of the week to get gas, think bac to when it was. but people
> now have a mind set they will save cash by topping off their tanks knowing that prices are
> going to rise, and because of this mindset, they are now buying 5 gallons more a week topping
> off the tank instead of waiting to get fuel when the tank gets low so damand goes up big time
> it's a simple case of supply and demand. think this is bull ---- remember princess di's
> beenie babies when she died they were upwards of 500 buc's if you could find them now they are
> a dime a dozen
> a friend of mind who works for a oil company tell me that sweet crude is no lomger used to
> make gas and the refiners now use sour crude and it's the price of that oil per barrel thats
> even higher something like 75.00 bucs a barrel he's say it will hit 100.00 by the end of summer
> then it's going to drop big time. i hope hes right
>
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
>
>>Please explain: If I'm burning 20 gal/week, how does buying 20 gallons
>>once a week instead of 5 gallons a day reduce demand.
>>
>>tim bur wrote:
>>
>>>lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus reducing a higher
>>>demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow down and keep our
>>>vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete and cut down ashphalt
>>>that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil comes down after 3
>>>months of of causing a glut in the market
>>> gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to stockpile it
>>>
>>>Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>From another thread that was veering off-topic...
>>>
>>>>Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for $1.50/gallon.
>>>>Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon in another
>>>>thread.
>>>>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business
>>>>
>>>>At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most countries on
>>>>the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L Canadian for
>>>>diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid $2.54/gallon
>>>>US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still
>>>>$2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California.
>>>>
>>>>It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too much for our
>>>>overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol".
>>>>
>>>>Let's keep things in perspective
>>>>In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42
>>>>gallons)...
>>>>
>>>>A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents unlike the
>>>>thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade for 25
>>>>cents a cup.
>>>>
>>>>Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd jump at a
>>>>chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19 cents.
>>>>
>>>>If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude... about 9
>>>>cents.
>>>
>>>

>


Lee Ayrton 08-13-2005 03:26 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
Sonny, I was buying gas when it cost a tad more than three bits a gallon
-- the taxes on a gallon of gas is more than that now. "No Gas" signs
are a personal memory.

If I'm burning 20 gallons a week I'm burning 20 gallons a week. The
demand is the same, no matter how large or small the purchase lot is.


tim bur wrote:
> yes u are burning the same 20 gallons a week but if gas was say a buc a gallon it would be
> no big deal to wait till the end of the week to get gas, think bac to when it was. but people
> now have a mind set they will save cash by topping off their tanks knowing that prices are
> going to rise, and because of this mindset, they are now buying 5 gallons more a week topping
> off the tank instead of waiting to get fuel when the tank gets low so damand goes up big time
> it's a simple case of supply and demand. think this is bull ---- remember princess di's
> beenie babies when she died they were upwards of 500 buc's if you could find them now they are
> a dime a dozen
> a friend of mind who works for a oil company tell me that sweet crude is no lomger used to
> make gas and the refiners now use sour crude and it's the price of that oil per barrel thats
> even higher something like 75.00 bucs a barrel he's say it will hit 100.00 by the end of summer
> then it's going to drop big time. i hope hes right
>
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
>
>>Please explain: If I'm burning 20 gal/week, how does buying 20 gallons
>>once a week instead of 5 gallons a day reduce demand.
>>
>>tim bur wrote:
>>
>>>lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus reducing a higher
>>>demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow down and keep our
>>>vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete and cut down ashphalt
>>>that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil comes down after 3
>>>months of of causing a glut in the market
>>> gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to stockpile it
>>>
>>>Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>From another thread that was veering off-topic...
>>>
>>>>Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for $1.50/gallon.
>>>>Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon in another
>>>>thread.
>>>>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business
>>>>
>>>>At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most countries on
>>>>the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L Canadian for
>>>>diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid $2.54/gallon
>>>>US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still
>>>>$2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California.
>>>>
>>>>It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too much for our
>>>>overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol".
>>>>
>>>>Let's keep things in perspective
>>>>In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42
>>>>gallons)...
>>>>
>>>>A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents unlike the
>>>>thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade for 25
>>>>cents a cup.
>>>>
>>>>Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd jump at a
>>>>chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19 cents.
>>>>
>>>>If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude... about 9
>>>>cents.
>>>
>>>

>


Lee Ayrton 08-13-2005 03:37 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
It depends. If you've got a _lot_ of mousefarts it adds up. A quick
google search suggests that there's about 240 million vehicles in the
USofA, they burn 5.8 billion gallons of gasoline a week. 2% of 5.8
billion is a rather sizable mousefart.


Will Honea wrote:
> You're talking about measuring mouse farts in a hurricane.
>
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:39:15 UTC "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Well...... Your demand will be lower because you will be dragging less fuel
>>around on an average daily basis.
>>Day 1 you save 25.4 pounds
>>Day 2 you save 50.8 pounds
>>Day 3 you save 76.2 pounds
>>Day 4 you save 101.6 pounds
>>Day 5 you save 127.0 pounds
>>
>>. An extra 100 pounds in your vehicle could reduce your MPG by up to 2%. The
>>reduction is based on the percentage of extra weight relative to the
>>vehicle's weight and affects smaller vehicles more than larger ones.
>>
>>If you gas up daily to the minimum fuel needed you will increase your
>>mileage.
>>
>>Some of the suggestions below apply to our Jeeps used on the road. Prudency
>>dictates we bring extra fuel and supplies when off-road but do you really
>>need to carry 2 axle shafts, a transfer case, 2 full jerry cans of fuel and
>>another of water and a complete set of tools back and forth to work and the
>>grocery store?
>>
>>Other savings:
>>
>>Drive Sensibly
>>
>>Aggressive driving (speeding, rapid acceleration and braking) wastes gas. It
>>can lower your gas mileage by 33 percent at highway speeds and by 5 percent
>>around town. Sensible driving is also safer for you and others, so you may
>>save more than gas money.
>>
>> Fuel Economy Benefit: 5-33%
>> Equivalent Gasoline Savings: $0.11-$0.73/gallon
>>
>>
>> Observe the Speed Limit
>>
>> Gas mileage decreases rapidly at speeds above 60 mph.
>>
>> Each 5 mph you drive over 60 mph is like paying an additional $0.15
>>per gallon for gas.
>>
>> Observing the speed limit is also safer.
>>
>> Fuel Economy Benefit: 7-23%
>> Equivalent Gasoline Savings: $0.15-$0.51/gallon
>>
>>Remove Excess Weight
>>
>>Avoid keeping unnecessary items in your vehicle, especially heavy ones. An
>>extra 100 pounds in your vehicle could reduce your MPG by up to 2%. The
>>reduction is based on the percentage of extra weight relative to the
>>vehicle's weight and affects smaller vehicles more than larger ones.
>>
>> Fuel Economy Benefit: 1-2%/100 lbs
>> Equivalent Gasoline Savings: $0.02-$0.04/gallon
>>
>>Avoid Excessive Idling
>>
>>Idling gets 0 miles per gallon. Cars with larger engines typically waste
>>more gas at idle than do cars with smaller engines.
>>
>>
>>Use Cruise Control
>>
>>Using cruise control on the highway helps you maintain a constant speed and,
>>in most cases, will save gas.
>>
>>
>>
>>Use Overdrive Gears
>>
>>When you use overdrive gearing, your car's engine speed goes down. This
>>saves gas and reduces engine wear.
>>
>>
>>
>>Note: Cost savings are based on an assumed fuel price of $2.20/gallon. (and
>>a weight of 6.35 pounds/gallon)
>>
>>http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/driveHabits.shtml
>>
>>http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-21281.html
>>
>>
>>-------Begin Encoded File-------
>>Encoded filename: driver.gif
>>Decoded path: Not decoded
>>Encoding type: UUEncode
>>--------End Encoded File--------
>>
>>
>>-------Begin Encoded File-------
>>Encoded filename: mednavydot.gif
>>Decoded path: Not decoded
>>Encoding type: UUEncode
>>--------End Encoded File--------
>>
>>
>>-------Begin Encoded File-------
>>Encoded filename: SPEED.gif
>>Decoded path: Not decoded
>>Encoding type: UUEncode
>>--------End Encoded File--------
>>
>>

>
>
>


Lee Ayrton 08-13-2005 03:37 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
It depends. If you've got a _lot_ of mousefarts it adds up. A quick
google search suggests that there's about 240 million vehicles in the
USofA, they burn 5.8 billion gallons of gasoline a week. 2% of 5.8
billion is a rather sizable mousefart.


Will Honea wrote:
> You're talking about measuring mouse farts in a hurricane.
>
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:39:15 UTC "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Well...... Your demand will be lower because you will be dragging less fuel
>>around on an average daily basis.
>>Day 1 you save 25.4 pounds
>>Day 2 you save 50.8 pounds
>>Day 3 you save 76.2 pounds
>>Day 4 you save 101.6 pounds
>>Day 5 you save 127.0 pounds
>>
>>. An extra 100 pounds in your vehicle could reduce your MPG by up to 2%. The
>>reduction is based on the percentage of extra weight relative to the
>>vehicle's weight and affects smaller vehicles more than larger ones.
>>
>>If you gas up daily to the minimum fuel needed you will increase your
>>mileage.
>>
>>Some of the suggestions below apply to our Jeeps used on the road. Prudency
>>dictates we bring extra fuel and supplies when off-road but do you really
>>need to carry 2 axle shafts, a transfer case, 2 full jerry cans of fuel and
>>another of water and a complete set of tools back and forth to work and the
>>grocery store?
>>
>>Other savings:
>>
>>Drive Sensibly
>>
>>Aggressive driving (speeding, rapid acceleration and braking) wastes gas. It
>>can lower your gas mileage by 33 percent at highway speeds and by 5 percent
>>around town. Sensible driving is also safer for you and others, so you may
>>save more than gas money.
>>
>> Fuel Economy Benefit: 5-33%
>> Equivalent Gasoline Savings: $0.11-$0.73/gallon
>>
>>
>> Observe the Speed Limit
>>
>> Gas mileage decreases rapidly at speeds above 60 mph.
>>
>> Each 5 mph you drive over 60 mph is like paying an additional $0.15
>>per gallon for gas.
>>
>> Observing the speed limit is also safer.
>>
>> Fuel Economy Benefit: 7-23%
>> Equivalent Gasoline Savings: $0.15-$0.51/gallon
>>
>>Remove Excess Weight
>>
>>Avoid keeping unnecessary items in your vehicle, especially heavy ones. An
>>extra 100 pounds in your vehicle could reduce your MPG by up to 2%. The
>>reduction is based on the percentage of extra weight relative to the
>>vehicle's weight and affects smaller vehicles more than larger ones.
>>
>> Fuel Economy Benefit: 1-2%/100 lbs
>> Equivalent Gasoline Savings: $0.02-$0.04/gallon
>>
>>Avoid Excessive Idling
>>
>>Idling gets 0 miles per gallon. Cars with larger engines typically waste
>>more gas at idle than do cars with smaller engines.
>>
>>
>>Use Cruise Control
>>
>>Using cruise control on the highway helps you maintain a constant speed and,
>>in most cases, will save gas.
>>
>>
>>
>>Use Overdrive Gears
>>
>>When you use overdrive gearing, your car's engine speed goes down. This
>>saves gas and reduces engine wear.
>>
>>
>>
>>Note: Cost savings are based on an assumed fuel price of $2.20/gallon. (and
>>a weight of 6.35 pounds/gallon)
>>
>>http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/driveHabits.shtml
>>
>>http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-21281.html
>>
>>
>>-------Begin Encoded File-------
>>Encoded filename: driver.gif
>>Decoded path: Not decoded
>>Encoding type: UUEncode
>>--------End Encoded File--------
>>
>>
>>-------Begin Encoded File-------
>>Encoded filename: mednavydot.gif
>>Decoded path: Not decoded
>>Encoding type: UUEncode
>>--------End Encoded File--------
>>
>>
>>-------Begin Encoded File-------
>>Encoded filename: SPEED.gif
>>Decoded path: Not decoded
>>Encoding type: UUEncode
>>--------End Encoded File--------
>>
>>

>
>
>


Lee Ayrton 08-13-2005 03:37 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
It depends. If you've got a _lot_ of mousefarts it adds up. A quick
google search suggests that there's about 240 million vehicles in the
USofA, they burn 5.8 billion gallons of gasoline a week. 2% of 5.8
billion is a rather sizable mousefart.


Will Honea wrote:
> You're talking about measuring mouse farts in a hurricane.
>
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:39:15 UTC "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Well...... Your demand will be lower because you will be dragging less fuel
>>around on an average daily basis.
>>Day 1 you save 25.4 pounds
>>Day 2 you save 50.8 pounds
>>Day 3 you save 76.2 pounds
>>Day 4 you save 101.6 pounds
>>Day 5 you save 127.0 pounds
>>
>>. An extra 100 pounds in your vehicle could reduce your MPG by up to 2%. The
>>reduction is based on the percentage of extra weight relative to the
>>vehicle's weight and affects smaller vehicles more than larger ones.
>>
>>If you gas up daily to the minimum fuel needed you will increase your
>>mileage.
>>
>>Some of the suggestions below apply to our Jeeps used on the road. Prudency
>>dictates we bring extra fuel and supplies when off-road but do you really
>>need to carry 2 axle shafts, a transfer case, 2 full jerry cans of fuel and
>>another of water and a complete set of tools back and forth to work and the
>>grocery store?
>>
>>Other savings:
>>
>>Drive Sensibly
>>
>>Aggressive driving (speeding, rapid acceleration and braking) wastes gas. It
>>can lower your gas mileage by 33 percent at highway speeds and by 5 percent
>>around town. Sensible driving is also safer for you and others, so you may
>>save more than gas money.
>>
>> Fuel Economy Benefit: 5-33%
>> Equivalent Gasoline Savings: $0.11-$0.73/gallon
>>
>>
>> Observe the Speed Limit
>>
>> Gas mileage decreases rapidly at speeds above 60 mph.
>>
>> Each 5 mph you drive over 60 mph is like paying an additional $0.15
>>per gallon for gas.
>>
>> Observing the speed limit is also safer.
>>
>> Fuel Economy Benefit: 7-23%
>> Equivalent Gasoline Savings: $0.15-$0.51/gallon
>>
>>Remove Excess Weight
>>
>>Avoid keeping unnecessary items in your vehicle, especially heavy ones. An
>>extra 100 pounds in your vehicle could reduce your MPG by up to 2%. The
>>reduction is based on the percentage of extra weight relative to the
>>vehicle's weight and affects smaller vehicles more than larger ones.
>>
>> Fuel Economy Benefit: 1-2%/100 lbs
>> Equivalent Gasoline Savings: $0.02-$0.04/gallon
>>
>>Avoid Excessive Idling
>>
>>Idling gets 0 miles per gallon. Cars with larger engines typically waste
>>more gas at idle than do cars with smaller engines.
>>
>>
>>Use Cruise Control
>>
>>Using cruise control on the highway helps you maintain a constant speed and,
>>in most cases, will save gas.
>>
>>
>>
>>Use Overdrive Gears
>>
>>When you use overdrive gearing, your car's engine speed goes down. This
>>saves gas and reduces engine wear.
>>
>>
>>
>>Note: Cost savings are based on an assumed fuel price of $2.20/gallon. (and
>>a weight of 6.35 pounds/gallon)
>>
>>http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/driveHabits.shtml
>>
>>http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-21281.html
>>
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Lee Ayrton 08-13-2005 03:37 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
It depends. If you've got a _lot_ of mousefarts it adds up. A quick
google search suggests that there's about 240 million vehicles in the
USofA, they burn 5.8 billion gallons of gasoline a week. 2% of 5.8
billion is a rather sizable mousefart.


Will Honea wrote:
> You're talking about measuring mouse farts in a hurricane.
>
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:39:15 UTC "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Well...... Your demand will be lower because you will be dragging less fuel
>>around on an average daily basis.
>>Day 1 you save 25.4 pounds
>>Day 2 you save 50.8 pounds
>>Day 3 you save 76.2 pounds
>>Day 4 you save 101.6 pounds
>>Day 5 you save 127.0 pounds
>>
>>. An extra 100 pounds in your vehicle could reduce your MPG by up to 2%. The
>>reduction is based on the percentage of extra weight relative to the
>>vehicle's weight and affects smaller vehicles more than larger ones.
>>
>>If you gas up daily to the minimum fuel needed you will increase your
>>mileage.
>>
>>Some of the suggestions below apply to our Jeeps used on the road. Prudency
>>dictates we bring extra fuel and supplies when off-road but do you really
>>need to carry 2 axle shafts, a transfer case, 2 full jerry cans of fuel and
>>another of water and a complete set of tools back and forth to work and the
>>grocery store?
>>
>>Other savings:
>>
>>Drive Sensibly
>>
>>Aggressive driving (speeding, rapid acceleration and braking) wastes gas. It
>>can lower your gas mileage by 33 percent at highway speeds and by 5 percent
>>around town. Sensible driving is also safer for you and others, so you may
>>save more than gas money.
>>
>> Fuel Economy Benefit: 5-33%
>> Equivalent Gasoline Savings: $0.11-$0.73/gallon
>>
>>
>> Observe the Speed Limit
>>
>> Gas mileage decreases rapidly at speeds above 60 mph.
>>
>> Each 5 mph you drive over 60 mph is like paying an additional $0.15
>>per gallon for gas.
>>
>> Observing the speed limit is also safer.
>>
>> Fuel Economy Benefit: 7-23%
>> Equivalent Gasoline Savings: $0.15-$0.51/gallon
>>
>>Remove Excess Weight
>>
>>Avoid keeping unnecessary items in your vehicle, especially heavy ones. An
>>extra 100 pounds in your vehicle could reduce your MPG by up to 2%. The
>>reduction is based on the percentage of extra weight relative to the
>>vehicle's weight and affects smaller vehicles more than larger ones.
>>
>> Fuel Economy Benefit: 1-2%/100 lbs
>> Equivalent Gasoline Savings: $0.02-$0.04/gallon
>>
>>Avoid Excessive Idling
>>
>>Idling gets 0 miles per gallon. Cars with larger engines typically waste
>>more gas at idle than do cars with smaller engines.
>>
>>
>>Use Cruise Control
>>
>>Using cruise control on the highway helps you maintain a constant speed and,
>>in most cases, will save gas.
>>
>>
>>
>>Use Overdrive Gears
>>
>>When you use overdrive gearing, your car's engine speed goes down. This
>>saves gas and reduces engine wear.
>>
>>
>>
>>Note: Cost savings are based on an assumed fuel price of $2.20/gallon. (and
>>a weight of 6.35 pounds/gallon)
>>
>>http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/driveHabits.shtml
>>
>>http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-21281.html
>>
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-13-2005 04:48 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
It take three hour thirty eight minutes to travel two hundred miles
at 55 MPH, or two hours fifty one at 70 MPH, a difference of forty seven
minutes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

tim bur wrote:
>
> did you know driving at 55 verses going the same place driving 70 only results in about a 10
> minute difference in a 200 mile trip there is a formula for this thats given to each new
> driver going thru training in my area
> and i drive a 383 bigblock newport to work
> talk to people u know and you will find that people fill the tanks on monday and use up 1/4
> tank then drive right bac in and top off the tank thinking they are going to save a few
> pennies. because gas goes up everyday, so demand goes up i see it everyday and hear about it
> everyday


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-13-2005 04:48 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
It take three hour thirty eight minutes to travel two hundred miles
at 55 MPH, or two hours fifty one at 70 MPH, a difference of forty seven
minutes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

tim bur wrote:
>
> did you know driving at 55 verses going the same place driving 70 only results in about a 10
> minute difference in a 200 mile trip there is a formula for this thats given to each new
> driver going thru training in my area
> and i drive a 383 bigblock newport to work
> talk to people u know and you will find that people fill the tanks on monday and use up 1/4
> tank then drive right bac in and top off the tank thinking they are going to save a few
> pennies. because gas goes up everyday, so demand goes up i see it everyday and hear about it
> everyday


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-13-2005 04:48 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
It take three hour thirty eight minutes to travel two hundred miles
at 55 MPH, or two hours fifty one at 70 MPH, a difference of forty seven
minutes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

tim bur wrote:
>
> did you know driving at 55 verses going the same place driving 70 only results in about a 10
> minute difference in a 200 mile trip there is a formula for this thats given to each new
> driver going thru training in my area
> and i drive a 383 bigblock newport to work
> talk to people u know and you will find that people fill the tanks on monday and use up 1/4
> tank then drive right bac in and top off the tank thinking they are going to save a few
> pennies. because gas goes up everyday, so demand goes up i see it everyday and hear about it
> everyday


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-13-2005 04:48 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
It take three hour thirty eight minutes to travel two hundred miles
at 55 MPH, or two hours fifty one at 70 MPH, a difference of forty seven
minutes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

tim bur wrote:
>
> did you know driving at 55 verses going the same place driving 70 only results in about a 10
> minute difference in a 200 mile trip there is a formula for this thats given to each new
> driver going thru training in my area
> and i drive a 383 bigblock newport to work
> talk to people u know and you will find that people fill the tanks on monday and use up 1/4
> tank then drive right bac in and top off the tank thinking they are going to save a few
> pennies. because gas goes up everyday, so demand goes up i see it everyday and hear about it
> everyday


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-13-2005 04:58 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
Every living thing sucks up carbon from our Sun, the marshes of the
southern states, and areas like the Great Lakes will some day be
petroleum, again to harvest the Sun's energy.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

tim bur wrote:
>
> but were is the dinosaurs now????


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-13-2005 04:58 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
Every living thing sucks up carbon from our Sun, the marshes of the
southern states, and areas like the Great Lakes will some day be
petroleum, again to harvest the Sun's energy.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

tim bur wrote:
>
> but were is the dinosaurs now????


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-13-2005 04:58 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
Every living thing sucks up carbon from our Sun, the marshes of the
southern states, and areas like the Great Lakes will some day be
petroleum, again to harvest the Sun's energy.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

tim bur wrote:
>
> but were is the dinosaurs now????


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-13-2005 04:58 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
Every living thing sucks up carbon from our Sun, the marshes of the
southern states, and areas like the Great Lakes will some day be
petroleum, again to harvest the Sun's energy.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

tim bur wrote:
>
> but were is the dinosaurs now????


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-13-2005 05:05 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
That is so true here in San Diego, California, Dubbed The Enron by
the Sea.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> "Con-gress, the opposite of Pro-gress."
> "Anyone who says crime doesn't pay never met a politician."
>
> You don't vote for the best person, you vote for the least dangerous.
>
> --
> DougW


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-13-2005 05:05 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
That is so true here in San Diego, California, Dubbed The Enron by
the Sea.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> "Con-gress, the opposite of Pro-gress."
> "Anyone who says crime doesn't pay never met a politician."
>
> You don't vote for the best person, you vote for the least dangerous.
>
> --
> DougW


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-13-2005 05:05 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
That is so true here in San Diego, California, Dubbed The Enron by
the Sea.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> "Con-gress, the opposite of Pro-gress."
> "Anyone who says crime doesn't pay never met a politician."
>
> You don't vote for the best person, you vote for the least dangerous.
>
> --
> DougW


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-13-2005 05:05 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
That is so true here in San Diego, California, Dubbed The Enron by
the Sea.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> "Con-gress, the opposite of Pro-gress."
> "Anyone who says crime doesn't pay never met a politician."
>
> You don't vote for the best person, you vote for the least dangerous.
>
> --
> DougW


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-13-2005 05:17 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
Don't ask a bleeding heart liberal to back up their lies. They have
absolutely no conception of how business is run, like a profit and loss
statements.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Snow wrote:
>
> What airlines have their fuel subsidized????
> and what airline is running their ramp equipment on jet fuel??
>
> Snow


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-13-2005 05:17 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
Don't ask a bleeding heart liberal to back up their lies. They have
absolutely no conception of how business is run, like a profit and loss
statements.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Snow wrote:
>
> What airlines have their fuel subsidized????
> and what airline is running their ramp equipment on jet fuel??
>
> Snow


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-13-2005 05:17 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
Don't ask a bleeding heart liberal to back up their lies. They have
absolutely no conception of how business is run, like a profit and loss
statements.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Snow wrote:
>
> What airlines have their fuel subsidized????
> and what airline is running their ramp equipment on jet fuel??
>
> Snow


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-13-2005 05:17 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
Don't ask a bleeding heart liberal to back up their lies. They have
absolutely no conception of how business is run, like a profit and loss
statements.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Snow wrote:
>
> What airlines have their fuel subsidized????
> and what airline is running their ramp equipment on jet fuel??
>
> Snow


tim bur 08-13-2005 06:06 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
you may be burning 20 gallons a week but most are not they are burning /carring more you are seeing
the field but not the crops

Lee Ayrton wrote:

> Sonny, I was buying gas when it cost a tad more than three bits a gallon
> -- the taxes on a gallon of gas is more than that now. "No Gas" signs
> are a personal memory.
>
> If I'm burning 20 gallons a week I'm burning 20 gallons a week. The
> demand is the same, no matter how large or small the purchase lot is.
>
> tim bur wrote:
> > yes u are burning the same 20 gallons a week but if gas was say a buc a gallon it would be
> > no big deal to wait till the end of the week to get gas, think bac to when it was. but people
> > now have a mind set they will save cash by topping off their tanks knowing that prices are
> > going to rise, and because of this mindset, they are now buying 5 gallons more a week topping
> > off the tank instead of waiting to get fuel when the tank gets low so damand goes up big time
> > it's a simple case of supply and demand. think this is bull ---- remember princess di's
> > beenie babies when she died they were upwards of 500 buc's if you could find them now they are
> > a dime a dozen
> > a friend of mind who works for a oil company tell me that sweet crude is no lomger used to
> > make gas and the refiners now use sour crude and it's the price of that oil per barrel thats
> > even higher something like 75.00 bucs a barrel he's say it will hit 100.00 by the end of summer
> > then it's going to drop big time. i hope hes right
> >
> >
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Please explain: If I'm burning 20 gal/week, how does buying 20 gallons
> >>once a week instead of 5 gallons a day reduce demand.
> >>
> >>tim bur wrote:
> >>
> >>>lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus reducing a higher
> >>>demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow down and keep our
> >>>vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete and cut down ashphalt
> >>>that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil comes down after 3
> >>>months of of causing a glut in the market
> >>> gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to stockpile it
> >>>
> >>>Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>From another thread that was veering off-topic...
> >>>
> >>>>Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for $1.50/gallon.
> >>>>Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon in another
> >>>>thread.
> >>>>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business
> >>>>
> >>>>At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most countries on
> >>>>the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L Canadian for
> >>>>diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid $2.54/gallon
> >>>>US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still
> >>>>$2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California.
> >>>>
> >>>>It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too much for our
> >>>>overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol".
> >>>>
> >>>>Let's keep things in perspective
> >>>>In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42
> >>>>gallons)...
> >>>>
> >>>>A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents unlike the
> >>>>thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade for 25
> >>>>cents a cup.
> >>>>
> >>>>Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd jump at a
> >>>>chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19 cents.
> >>>>
> >>>>If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude... about 9
> >>>>cents.
> >>>
> >>>

> >



tim bur 08-13-2005 06:06 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
you may be burning 20 gallons a week but most are not they are burning /carring more you are seeing
the field but not the crops

Lee Ayrton wrote:

> Sonny, I was buying gas when it cost a tad more than three bits a gallon
> -- the taxes on a gallon of gas is more than that now. "No Gas" signs
> are a personal memory.
>
> If I'm burning 20 gallons a week I'm burning 20 gallons a week. The
> demand is the same, no matter how large or small the purchase lot is.
>
> tim bur wrote:
> > yes u are burning the same 20 gallons a week but if gas was say a buc a gallon it would be
> > no big deal to wait till the end of the week to get gas, think bac to when it was. but people
> > now have a mind set they will save cash by topping off their tanks knowing that prices are
> > going to rise, and because of this mindset, they are now buying 5 gallons more a week topping
> > off the tank instead of waiting to get fuel when the tank gets low so damand goes up big time
> > it's a simple case of supply and demand. think this is bull ---- remember princess di's
> > beenie babies when she died they were upwards of 500 buc's if you could find them now they are
> > a dime a dozen
> > a friend of mind who works for a oil company tell me that sweet crude is no lomger used to
> > make gas and the refiners now use sour crude and it's the price of that oil per barrel thats
> > even higher something like 75.00 bucs a barrel he's say it will hit 100.00 by the end of summer
> > then it's going to drop big time. i hope hes right
> >
> >
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Please explain: If I'm burning 20 gal/week, how does buying 20 gallons
> >>once a week instead of 5 gallons a day reduce demand.
> >>
> >>tim bur wrote:
> >>
> >>>lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus reducing a higher
> >>>demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow down and keep our
> >>>vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete and cut down ashphalt
> >>>that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil comes down after 3
> >>>months of of causing a glut in the market
> >>> gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to stockpile it
> >>>
> >>>Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>From another thread that was veering off-topic...
> >>>
> >>>>Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for $1.50/gallon.
> >>>>Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon in another
> >>>>thread.
> >>>>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business
> >>>>
> >>>>At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most countries on
> >>>>the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L Canadian for
> >>>>diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid $2.54/gallon
> >>>>US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still
> >>>>$2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California.
> >>>>
> >>>>It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too much for our
> >>>>overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol".
> >>>>
> >>>>Let's keep things in perspective
> >>>>In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42
> >>>>gallons)...
> >>>>
> >>>>A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents unlike the
> >>>>thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade for 25
> >>>>cents a cup.
> >>>>
> >>>>Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd jump at a
> >>>>chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19 cents.
> >>>>
> >>>>If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude... about 9
> >>>>cents.
> >>>
> >>>

> >



tim bur 08-13-2005 06:06 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
you may be burning 20 gallons a week but most are not they are burning /carring more you are seeing
the field but not the crops

Lee Ayrton wrote:

> Sonny, I was buying gas when it cost a tad more than three bits a gallon
> -- the taxes on a gallon of gas is more than that now. "No Gas" signs
> are a personal memory.
>
> If I'm burning 20 gallons a week I'm burning 20 gallons a week. The
> demand is the same, no matter how large or small the purchase lot is.
>
> tim bur wrote:
> > yes u are burning the same 20 gallons a week but if gas was say a buc a gallon it would be
> > no big deal to wait till the end of the week to get gas, think bac to when it was. but people
> > now have a mind set they will save cash by topping off their tanks knowing that prices are
> > going to rise, and because of this mindset, they are now buying 5 gallons more a week topping
> > off the tank instead of waiting to get fuel when the tank gets low so damand goes up big time
> > it's a simple case of supply and demand. think this is bull ---- remember princess di's
> > beenie babies when she died they were upwards of 500 buc's if you could find them now they are
> > a dime a dozen
> > a friend of mind who works for a oil company tell me that sweet crude is no lomger used to
> > make gas and the refiners now use sour crude and it's the price of that oil per barrel thats
> > even higher something like 75.00 bucs a barrel he's say it will hit 100.00 by the end of summer
> > then it's going to drop big time. i hope hes right
> >
> >
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Please explain: If I'm burning 20 gal/week, how does buying 20 gallons
> >>once a week instead of 5 gallons a day reduce demand.
> >>
> >>tim bur wrote:
> >>
> >>>lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus reducing a higher
> >>>demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow down and keep our
> >>>vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete and cut down ashphalt
> >>>that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil comes down after 3
> >>>months of of causing a glut in the market
> >>> gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to stockpile it
> >>>
> >>>Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>From another thread that was veering off-topic...
> >>>
> >>>>Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for $1.50/gallon.
> >>>>Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon in another
> >>>>thread.
> >>>>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business
> >>>>
> >>>>At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most countries on
> >>>>the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L Canadian for
> >>>>diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid $2.54/gallon
> >>>>US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still
> >>>>$2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California.
> >>>>
> >>>>It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too much for our
> >>>>overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol".
> >>>>
> >>>>Let's keep things in perspective
> >>>>In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42
> >>>>gallons)...
> >>>>
> >>>>A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents unlike the
> >>>>thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade for 25
> >>>>cents a cup.
> >>>>
> >>>>Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd jump at a
> >>>>chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19 cents.
> >>>>
> >>>>If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude... about 9
> >>>>cents.
> >>>
> >>>

> >



tim bur 08-13-2005 06:06 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
you may be burning 20 gallons a week but most are not they are burning /carring more you are seeing
the field but not the crops

Lee Ayrton wrote:

> Sonny, I was buying gas when it cost a tad more than three bits a gallon
> -- the taxes on a gallon of gas is more than that now. "No Gas" signs
> are a personal memory.
>
> If I'm burning 20 gallons a week I'm burning 20 gallons a week. The
> demand is the same, no matter how large or small the purchase lot is.
>
> tim bur wrote:
> > yes u are burning the same 20 gallons a week but if gas was say a buc a gallon it would be
> > no big deal to wait till the end of the week to get gas, think bac to when it was. but people
> > now have a mind set they will save cash by topping off their tanks knowing that prices are
> > going to rise, and because of this mindset, they are now buying 5 gallons more a week topping
> > off the tank instead of waiting to get fuel when the tank gets low so damand goes up big time
> > it's a simple case of supply and demand. think this is bull ---- remember princess di's
> > beenie babies when she died they were upwards of 500 buc's if you could find them now they are
> > a dime a dozen
> > a friend of mind who works for a oil company tell me that sweet crude is no lomger used to
> > make gas and the refiners now use sour crude and it's the price of that oil per barrel thats
> > even higher something like 75.00 bucs a barrel he's say it will hit 100.00 by the end of summer
> > then it's going to drop big time. i hope hes right
> >
> >
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Please explain: If I'm burning 20 gal/week, how does buying 20 gallons
> >>once a week instead of 5 gallons a day reduce demand.
> >>
> >>tim bur wrote:
> >>
> >>>lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus reducing a higher
> >>>demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow down and keep our
> >>>vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete and cut down ashphalt
> >>>that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil comes down after 3
> >>>months of of causing a glut in the market
> >>> gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to stockpile it
> >>>
> >>>Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>From another thread that was veering off-topic...
> >>>
> >>>>Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for $1.50/gallon.
> >>>>Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon in another
> >>>>thread.
> >>>>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business
> >>>>
> >>>>At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most countries on
> >>>>the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L Canadian for
> >>>>diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid $2.54/gallon
> >>>>US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still
> >>>>$2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California.
> >>>>
> >>>>It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too much for our
> >>>>overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol".
> >>>>
> >>>>Let's keep things in perspective
> >>>>In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42
> >>>>gallons)...
> >>>>
> >>>>A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents unlike the
> >>>>thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade for 25
> >>>>cents a cup.
> >>>>
> >>>>Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd jump at a
> >>>>chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19 cents.
> >>>>
> >>>>If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude... about 9
> >>>>cents.
> >>>
> >>>

> >



Nick 08-13-2005 06:11 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
I'm sure you meant to say something along the lines of 'radiant energy"..not
carbon....

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> Every living thing sucks up carbon from our Sun, the marshes of the
> southern states, and areas like the Great Lakes will some day be
> petroleum, again to harvest the Sun's energy.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> tim bur wrote:
> >
> > but were is the dinosaurs now????




Nick 08-13-2005 06:11 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
I'm sure you meant to say something along the lines of 'radiant energy"..not
carbon....

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"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42FE5EF1.9297718E@cox.net...
> Every living thing sucks up carbon from our Sun, the marshes of the
> southern states, and areas like the Great Lakes will some day be
> petroleum, again to harvest the Sun's energy.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> tim bur wrote:
> >
> > but were is the dinosaurs now????




Nick 08-13-2005 06:11 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
I'm sure you meant to say something along the lines of 'radiant energy"..not
carbon....

--
http://members.cox.net/nnote/
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42FE5EF1.9297718E@cox.net...
> Every living thing sucks up carbon from our Sun, the marshes of the
> southern states, and areas like the Great Lakes will some day be
> petroleum, again to harvest the Sun's energy.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> tim bur wrote:
> >
> > but were is the dinosaurs now????




Nick 08-13-2005 06:11 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
I'm sure you meant to say something along the lines of 'radiant energy"..not
carbon....

--
http://members.cox.net/nnote/
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42FE5EF1.9297718E@cox.net...
> Every living thing sucks up carbon from our Sun, the marshes of the
> southern states, and areas like the Great Lakes will some day be
> petroleum, again to harvest the Sun's energy.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> tim bur wrote:
> >
> > but were is the dinosaurs now????




tim bur 08-13-2005 06:15 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
hmmm that isn't right
i have a cabin exactly 200 miles from my house and at 70 mph it takes 3 hours on the dot to get
there and at 55 it takes 3hours ten minutes i have driven it at both speeds

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:

> It take three hour thirty eight minutes to travel two hundred miles
> at 55 MPH, or two hours fifty one at 70 MPH, a difference of forty seven
> minutes.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> tim bur wrote:
> >
> > did you know driving at 55 verses going the same place driving 70 only results in about a 10
> > minute difference in a 200 mile trip there is a formula for this thats given to each new
> > driver going thru training in my area
> > and i drive a 383 bigblock newport to work
> > talk to people u know and you will find that people fill the tanks on monday and use up 1/4
> > tank then drive right bac in and top off the tank thinking they are going to save a few
> > pennies. because gas goes up everyday, so demand goes up i see it everyday and hear about it
> > everyday



tim bur 08-13-2005 06:15 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
hmmm that isn't right
i have a cabin exactly 200 miles from my house and at 70 mph it takes 3 hours on the dot to get
there and at 55 it takes 3hours ten minutes i have driven it at both speeds

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:

> It take three hour thirty eight minutes to travel two hundred miles
> at 55 MPH, or two hours fifty one at 70 MPH, a difference of forty seven
> minutes.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> tim bur wrote:
> >
> > did you know driving at 55 verses going the same place driving 70 only results in about a 10
> > minute difference in a 200 mile trip there is a formula for this thats given to each new
> > driver going thru training in my area
> > and i drive a 383 bigblock newport to work
> > talk to people u know and you will find that people fill the tanks on monday and use up 1/4
> > tank then drive right bac in and top off the tank thinking they are going to save a few
> > pennies. because gas goes up everyday, so demand goes up i see it everyday and hear about it
> > everyday



tim bur 08-13-2005 06:15 PM

Re: Oil prices got you down?
 
hmmm that isn't right
i have a cabin exactly 200 miles from my house and at 70 mph it takes 3 hours on the dot to get
there and at 55 it takes 3hours ten minutes i have driven it at both speeds

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:

> It take three hour thirty eight minutes to travel two hundred miles
> at 55 MPH, or two hours fifty one at 70 MPH, a difference of forty seven
> minutes.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> tim bur wrote:
> >
> > did you know driving at 55 verses going the same place driving 70 only results in about a 10
> > minute difference in a 200 mile trip there is a formula for this thats given to each new
> > driver going thru training in my area
> > and i drive a 383 bigblock newport to work
> > talk to people u know and you will find that people fill the tanks on monday and use up 1/4
> > tank then drive right bac in and top off the tank thinking they are going to save a few
> > pennies. because gas goes up everyday, so demand goes up i see it everyday and hear about it
> > everyday




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