L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Speaking of Boeing, they'll be shooting a Delta IV out of
Vandenberg, today's window seven to nine PM Preferred Daylight Time:
http://www.spacearchive.info/vafbsked.htm For Southern Californians,
they're absolutely beautiful! If you wait for the five minutes of engine
roar, you will miss it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Well, we are both right, sort of.
>
> Boeing's website says
><snip>

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Speaking of Boeing, they'll be shooting a Delta IV out of
Vandenberg, today's window seven to nine PM Preferred Daylight Time:
http://www.spacearchive.info/vafbsked.htm For Southern Californians,
they're absolutely beautiful! If you wait for the five minutes of engine
roar, you will miss it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Well, we are both right, sort of.
>
> Boeing's website says
><snip>

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Speaking of Boeing, they'll be shooting a Delta IV out of
Vandenberg, today's window seven to nine PM Preferred Daylight Time:
http://www.spacearchive.info/vafbsked.htm For Southern Californians,
they're absolutely beautiful! If you wait for the five minutes of engine
roar, you will miss it.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Well, we are both right, sort of.
>
> Boeing's website says
><snip>

billy ray

Could be worse. The USAF aircraft that the Clinton cronies used for
ferrying themselves (excluding Air Force 1) was $6000 per hour.


"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:lShog.92432$wl.47094@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Well, we are both right, sort of.
>
> Boeing's website says
>
> "A 747-400 that flies 3,500 statute miles (5,630 km) and carries 126,000
> pounds (56,700 kg) of fuel will consume an average of five gallons (19 L)
> per mile".
> So, at 6.84 lb/gallon, that would be carrying 18,421 gallons.
>
> However, the 747 ER page states that it has a range of 7,670 nautical
> miles
> and a fuel tank of 63,500 gallons.
> Extrapolating from that gives 8.2 gallons / nautical mile or 7.2 gallons /
> statute mile.
>
> The difference is presumably the overhead of carrying the extra 45000
> gallons / 138 tons of fuel about.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:1de14$44a196f9$48311525$26634@FUSE.NET...
>> Dave... now don't exaggerate. A 747 only burns about 5 gallons per mile
>> x
>> 7500 miles = 37,500 gallons.
>> (about 3600 gallons/hr)
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:_Hdog.92269$wl.45490@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> >A 747 takes > 60,000 gallons to fly ~ 7500 miles.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> > "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> > news:7xEng.2224$4c7.622@tornado.southeast.rr.com.. .
>> >> Yeah... the same Al Gore who is flying around on jets burning up God
>> >> only knows how much fuel warning us about the dangers of burning fuel.
>> >>
>> >> Jeff DeWitt
>> >>
>> >> billy ray wrote:
>> >> > No, methane powered Jeeps will still create carbon dioxide that
> AlGore
>> > says
>> >> > caused the death of all the dinosaurs and the many ice ages.
>> >> >
>> >> > Of course.... there is still that nagging question of who was
>> >> > running
>> >> > gasoline powered engines and using other fossil fuels hundreds of
>> > millions
>> >> > of years ago before those fuels were created..
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:gtymg.50075$mF2.48272@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> >> >
>> >> >>Think Methane!!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >> >>news:f965$449a8ede$48311525$13074@FUSE.NET...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>Solar powered Jeeps?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

billy ray

Could be worse. The USAF aircraft that the Clinton cronies used for
ferrying themselves (excluding Air Force 1) was $6000 per hour.


"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:lShog.92432$wl.47094@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Well, we are both right, sort of.
>
> Boeing's website says
>
> "A 747-400 that flies 3,500 statute miles (5,630 km) and carries 126,000
> pounds (56,700 kg) of fuel will consume an average of five gallons (19 L)
> per mile".
> So, at 6.84 lb/gallon, that would be carrying 18,421 gallons.
>
> However, the 747 ER page states that it has a range of 7,670 nautical
> miles
> and a fuel tank of 63,500 gallons.
> Extrapolating from that gives 8.2 gallons / nautical mile or 7.2 gallons /
> statute mile.
>
> The difference is presumably the overhead of carrying the extra 45000
> gallons / 138 tons of fuel about.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:1de14$44a196f9$48311525$26634@FUSE.NET...
>> Dave... now don't exaggerate. A 747 only burns about 5 gallons per mile
>> x
>> 7500 miles = 37,500 gallons.
>> (about 3600 gallons/hr)
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:_Hdog.92269$wl.45490@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> >A 747 takes > 60,000 gallons to fly ~ 7500 miles.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> > "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> > news:7xEng.2224$4c7.622@tornado.southeast.rr.com.. .
>> >> Yeah... the same Al Gore who is flying around on jets burning up God
>> >> only knows how much fuel warning us about the dangers of burning fuel.
>> >>
>> >> Jeff DeWitt
>> >>
>> >> billy ray wrote:
>> >> > No, methane powered Jeeps will still create carbon dioxide that
> AlGore
>> > says
>> >> > caused the death of all the dinosaurs and the many ice ages.
>> >> >
>> >> > Of course.... there is still that nagging question of who was
>> >> > running
>> >> > gasoline powered engines and using other fossil fuels hundreds of
>> > millions
>> >> > of years ago before those fuels were created..
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:gtymg.50075$mF2.48272@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> >> >
>> >> >>Think Methane!!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >> >>news:f965$449a8ede$48311525$13074@FUSE.NET...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>Solar powered Jeeps?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

billy ray

Could be worse. The USAF aircraft that the Clinton cronies used for
ferrying themselves (excluding Air Force 1) was $6000 per hour.


"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:lShog.92432$wl.47094@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Well, we are both right, sort of.
>
> Boeing's website says
>
> "A 747-400 that flies 3,500 statute miles (5,630 km) and carries 126,000
> pounds (56,700 kg) of fuel will consume an average of five gallons (19 L)
> per mile".
> So, at 6.84 lb/gallon, that would be carrying 18,421 gallons.
>
> However, the 747 ER page states that it has a range of 7,670 nautical
> miles
> and a fuel tank of 63,500 gallons.
> Extrapolating from that gives 8.2 gallons / nautical mile or 7.2 gallons /
> statute mile.
>
> The difference is presumably the overhead of carrying the extra 45000
> gallons / 138 tons of fuel about.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:1de14$44a196f9$48311525$26634@FUSE.NET...
>> Dave... now don't exaggerate. A 747 only burns about 5 gallons per mile
>> x
>> 7500 miles = 37,500 gallons.
>> (about 3600 gallons/hr)
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:_Hdog.92269$wl.45490@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> >A 747 takes > 60,000 gallons to fly ~ 7500 miles.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> > "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> > news:7xEng.2224$4c7.622@tornado.southeast.rr.com.. .
>> >> Yeah... the same Al Gore who is flying around on jets burning up God
>> >> only knows how much fuel warning us about the dangers of burning fuel.
>> >>
>> >> Jeff DeWitt
>> >>
>> >> billy ray wrote:
>> >> > No, methane powered Jeeps will still create carbon dioxide that
> AlGore
>> > says
>> >> > caused the death of all the dinosaurs and the many ice ages.
>> >> >
>> >> > Of course.... there is still that nagging question of who was
>> >> > running
>> >> > gasoline powered engines and using other fossil fuels hundreds of
>> > millions
>> >> > of years ago before those fuels were created..
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:gtymg.50075$mF2.48272@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> >> >
>> >> >>Think Methane!!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >> >>news:f965$449a8ede$48311525$13074@FUSE.NET...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>Solar powered Jeeps?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

charleseaufarley@yahoo.com

billy ray wrote:
> Could be worse. The USAF aircraft that the Clinton cronies used for
> ferrying themselves (excluding Air Force 1) was $6000 per hour.
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:lShog.92432$wl.47094@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > Well, we are both right, sort of.
> >
> > Boeing's website says
> >
> > "A 747-400 that flies 3,500 statute miles (5,630 km) and carries 126,000
> > pounds (56,700 kg) of fuel will consume an average of five gallons (19 L)
> > per mile".
> > So, at 6.84 lb/gallon, that would be carrying 18,421 gallons.
> >
> > However, the 747 ER page states that it has a range of 7,670 nautical
> > miles
> > and a fuel tank of 63,500 gallons.
> > Extrapolating from that gives 8.2 gallons / nautical mile or 7.2 gallons /
> > statute mile.
> >
> > The difference is presumably the overhead of carrying the extra 45000
> > gallons / 138 tons of fuel about.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:1de14$44a196f9$48311525$26634@FUSE.NET...
> >> Dave... now don't exaggerate. A 747 only burns about 5 gallons per mile
> >> x
> >> 7500 miles = 37,500 gallons.
> >> (about 3600 gallons/hr)
> >>
> >>
> >> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> >> news:_Hdog.92269$wl.45490@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> >> >A 747 takes > 60,000 gallons to fly ~ 7500 miles.
> >> >
> >> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> >
> >> > "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:7xEng.2224$4c7.622@tornado.southeast.rr.com.. .
> >> >> Yeah... the same Al Gore who is flying around on jets burning up God
> >> >> only knows how much fuel warning us about the dangers of burning fuel.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jeff DeWitt
> >> >>
> >> >> billy ray wrote:
> >> >> > No, methane powered Jeeps will still create carbon dioxide that
> > AlGore
> >> > says
> >> >> > caused the death of all the dinosaurs and the many ice ages.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Of course.... there is still that nagging question of who was
> >> >> > running
> >> >> > gasoline powered engines and using other fossil fuels hundreds of
> >> > millions
> >> >> > of years ago before those fuels were created..
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:gtymg.50075$mF2.48272@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>Think Methane!!!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >>news:f965$449a8ede$48311525$13074@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>Solar powered Jeeps?




I use it in my 04 Sport trac and I do get less miles per gallon but I
get more miles per dollar(range). It's costs me $67 to fill the tank
with gas and if I'm luck get about 375-400 miles range.Now for $75 I
can fill the tank and three five gallon cans which gets me 540-570
miles. For almost a dollar less I'll drive the extra 15 miles to get
it. I also have been running a test with E-85 for a while now as I run
it exclusively in my Sport trac. Here are some amazing results.

1. After 4,000 miles the oil comes out just as clean as when it went
in.
CAT oil anyalsys says no HC, no Carbon, no metal.
2. I have more HP. On gas the dyno power to the rear wheels was 192hp,
on e-85 it was 201hp at the same rpm.

I just love this stuff and I love sticking it to all those mid east and
oil companies bastards. Next up is my 93 Jeep which currently is
running on 50% e-85/ 50%gas. The only noticible odities were a few
plugs "bridge gapped" with chunks of carbon. I have seen no failed
seals or fuel lines and it has been well over a year. I spent 14 years
as a drivability tech and the only real things that looks funny on the
scan data in a much wider pulse width and everyonce in a great while it
sets an 02 out of range code and I got a max rich limit code once as
well. it's usually due to mitigating circumstances like towing,
excesive idiling ect. I have a feeling that this will be like the 134a
freon conversion controversy. In the beginning the SAE guys said
replace everything not they say just drain and refill. the only things
I know that alcohol attacks is aluminum and that still takes a while to
eat up. Brazil has used alcohol in their VW's for decades and the carbs
look like a sandblaster got to the float bowls but other than that I
guess it was a great success. Anyone else here doing what I am
doing????

charleseaufarley@yahoo.com

billy ray wrote:
> Could be worse. The USAF aircraft that the Clinton cronies used for
> ferrying themselves (excluding Air Force 1) was $6000 per hour.
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:lShog.92432$wl.47094@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > Well, we are both right, sort of.
> >
> > Boeing's website says
> >
> > "A 747-400 that flies 3,500 statute miles (5,630 km) and carries 126,000
> > pounds (56,700 kg) of fuel will consume an average of five gallons (19 L)
> > per mile".
> > So, at 6.84 lb/gallon, that would be carrying 18,421 gallons.
> >
> > However, the 747 ER page states that it has a range of 7,670 nautical
> > miles
> > and a fuel tank of 63,500 gallons.
> > Extrapolating from that gives 8.2 gallons / nautical mile or 7.2 gallons /
> > statute mile.
> >
> > The difference is presumably the overhead of carrying the extra 45000
> > gallons / 138 tons of fuel about.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:1de14$44a196f9$48311525$26634@FUSE.NET...
> >> Dave... now don't exaggerate. A 747 only burns about 5 gallons per mile
> >> x
> >> 7500 miles = 37,500 gallons.
> >> (about 3600 gallons/hr)
> >>
> >>
> >> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> >> news:_Hdog.92269$wl.45490@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> >> >A 747 takes > 60,000 gallons to fly ~ 7500 miles.
> >> >
> >> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> >
> >> > "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:7xEng.2224$4c7.622@tornado.southeast.rr.com.. .
> >> >> Yeah... the same Al Gore who is flying around on jets burning up God
> >> >> only knows how much fuel warning us about the dangers of burning fuel.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jeff DeWitt
> >> >>
> >> >> billy ray wrote:
> >> >> > No, methane powered Jeeps will still create carbon dioxide that
> > AlGore
> >> > says
> >> >> > caused the death of all the dinosaurs and the many ice ages.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Of course.... there is still that nagging question of who was
> >> >> > running
> >> >> > gasoline powered engines and using other fossil fuels hundreds of
> >> > millions
> >> >> > of years ago before those fuels were created..
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:gtymg.50075$mF2.48272@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>Think Methane!!!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >>news:f965$449a8ede$48311525$13074@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>Solar powered Jeeps?




I use it in my 04 Sport trac and I do get less miles per gallon but I
get more miles per dollar(range). It's costs me $67 to fill the tank
with gas and if I'm luck get about 375-400 miles range.Now for $75 I
can fill the tank and three five gallon cans which gets me 540-570
miles. For almost a dollar less I'll drive the extra 15 miles to get
it. I also have been running a test with E-85 for a while now as I run
it exclusively in my Sport trac. Here are some amazing results.

1. After 4,000 miles the oil comes out just as clean as when it went
in.
CAT oil anyalsys says no HC, no Carbon, no metal.
2. I have more HP. On gas the dyno power to the rear wheels was 192hp,
on e-85 it was 201hp at the same rpm.

I just love this stuff and I love sticking it to all those mid east and
oil companies bastards. Next up is my 93 Jeep which currently is
running on 50% e-85/ 50%gas. The only noticible odities were a few
plugs "bridge gapped" with chunks of carbon. I have seen no failed
seals or fuel lines and it has been well over a year. I spent 14 years
as a drivability tech and the only real things that looks funny on the
scan data in a much wider pulse width and everyonce in a great while it
sets an 02 out of range code and I got a max rich limit code once as
well. it's usually due to mitigating circumstances like towing,
excesive idiling ect. I have a feeling that this will be like the 134a
freon conversion controversy. In the beginning the SAE guys said
replace everything not they say just drain and refill. the only things
I know that alcohol attacks is aluminum and that still takes a while to
eat up. Brazil has used alcohol in their VW's for decades and the carbs
look like a sandblaster got to the float bowls but other than that I
guess it was a great success. Anyone else here doing what I am
doing????

charleseaufarley@yahoo.com

billy ray wrote:
> Could be worse. The USAF aircraft that the Clinton cronies used for
> ferrying themselves (excluding Air Force 1) was $6000 per hour.
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:lShog.92432$wl.47094@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > Well, we are both right, sort of.
> >
> > Boeing's website says
> >
> > "A 747-400 that flies 3,500 statute miles (5,630 km) and carries 126,000
> > pounds (56,700 kg) of fuel will consume an average of five gallons (19 L)
> > per mile".
> > So, at 6.84 lb/gallon, that would be carrying 18,421 gallons.
> >
> > However, the 747 ER page states that it has a range of 7,670 nautical
> > miles
> > and a fuel tank of 63,500 gallons.
> > Extrapolating from that gives 8.2 gallons / nautical mile or 7.2 gallons /
> > statute mile.
> >
> > The difference is presumably the overhead of carrying the extra 45000
> > gallons / 138 tons of fuel about.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:1de14$44a196f9$48311525$26634@FUSE.NET...
> >> Dave... now don't exaggerate. A 747 only burns about 5 gallons per mile
> >> x
> >> 7500 miles = 37,500 gallons.
> >> (about 3600 gallons/hr)
> >>
> >>
> >> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> >> news:_Hdog.92269$wl.45490@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> >> >A 747 takes > 60,000 gallons to fly ~ 7500 miles.
> >> >
> >> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> >
> >> > "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:7xEng.2224$4c7.622@tornado.southeast.rr.com.. .
> >> >> Yeah... the same Al Gore who is flying around on jets burning up God
> >> >> only knows how much fuel warning us about the dangers of burning fuel.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jeff DeWitt
> >> >>
> >> >> billy ray wrote:
> >> >> > No, methane powered Jeeps will still create carbon dioxide that
> > AlGore
> >> > says
> >> >> > caused the death of all the dinosaurs and the many ice ages.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Of course.... there is still that nagging question of who was
> >> >> > running
> >> >> > gasoline powered engines and using other fossil fuels hundreds of
> >> > millions
> >> >> > of years ago before those fuels were created..
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:gtymg.50075$mF2.48272@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>Think Methane!!!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >>news:f965$449a8ede$48311525$13074@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>Solar powered Jeeps?




I use it in my 04 Sport trac and I do get less miles per gallon but I
get more miles per dollar(range). It's costs me $67 to fill the tank
with gas and if I'm luck get about 375-400 miles range.Now for $75 I
can fill the tank and three five gallon cans which gets me 540-570
miles. For almost a dollar less I'll drive the extra 15 miles to get
it. I also have been running a test with E-85 for a while now as I run
it exclusively in my Sport trac. Here are some amazing results.

1. After 4,000 miles the oil comes out just as clean as when it went
in.
CAT oil anyalsys says no HC, no Carbon, no metal.
2. I have more HP. On gas the dyno power to the rear wheels was 192hp,
on e-85 it was 201hp at the same rpm.

I just love this stuff and I love sticking it to all those mid east and
oil companies bastards. Next up is my 93 Jeep which currently is
running on 50% e-85/ 50%gas. The only noticible odities were a few
plugs "bridge gapped" with chunks of carbon. I have seen no failed
seals or fuel lines and it has been well over a year. I spent 14 years
as a drivability tech and the only real things that looks funny on the
scan data in a much wider pulse width and everyonce in a great while it
sets an 02 out of range code and I got a max rich limit code once as
well. it's usually due to mitigating circumstances like towing,
excesive idiling ect. I have a feeling that this will be like the 134a
freon conversion controversy. In the beginning the SAE guys said
replace everything not they say just drain and refill. the only things
I know that alcohol attacks is aluminum and that still takes a while to
eat up. Brazil has used alcohol in their VW's for decades and the carbs
look like a sandblaster got to the float bowls but other than that I
guess it was a great success. Anyone else here doing what I am
doing????