Gary

Ask them what type/model tool they use to remove it at quickie lube and then
go buy one yourself..

The other option is you can buy/install a remote filter adapter and locate
it to an more accessible place

Another option for right now might be to fill the 'cap wrench' with 5 minute
epoxy and glue it to the filter. After it sets up you can apply your socket
wrench and twist it off.
Or wrap the cap flutes with duct tape

or

wrap a couple turns of duct take around a ratchet extension and then a
couple more around the filter body

Ya know..... I probably have at least one of all these tools. Some work
great, some are specialized to specific vehicles, and some are just cr^p.

The ones I use most often are the ones below.

http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp...&source=affwin

http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Oil-Fil...9&category=175




<gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us> wrote in message
news:1156874462.238912.274330@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi Billy Ray,
>
> No, the strap does NOT slip when I try to turn it. I've used quite a
> bit of force but the filter still didn't budge. I really don't want to
> turn it harder because that may collapse the filter.
>
> I'm going to take your advice and take the Liberty to my corner
> quickie-lube place and let them fight with it. (When I took it to them
> the first time -- at 2,500 miles -- it took them almost an hour to get
> the factory-installed oil filter off and they tried a number of
> different tools to do it). I'll just tell them to oil the rubber
> gasket and to screw the filter on per the instructions on the box.
> Hopefully, I can then do the work myself in the future).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary
>
>
> P.S. to Mike: I doubt that leaving the cup (or cap) "broke" the oil
> filter. Except for rounding-off the flutes on the filter, I haven't
> "damaged" it, either. I think the filter was just screwed on a little
> too tight.
>

 

I use a 2 arm/cam operated wrench that goes on the end of a 3/8" square
drive socket set. MUCH better than the end cap drives, the harder you
twist the tighter it grips. Similar to this:
http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPage...artNum=7759018

gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on the
> filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the filter
> have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap. How can I
> unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to grab onto
> the filter?
>

 

I use a 2 arm/cam operated wrench that goes on the end of a 3/8" square
drive socket set. MUCH better than the end cap drives, the harder you
twist the tighter it grips. Similar to this:
http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPage...artNum=7759018

gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on the
> filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the filter
> have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap. How can I
> unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to grab onto
> the filter?
>

 

I use a 2 arm/cam operated wrench that goes on the end of a 3/8" square
drive socket set. MUCH better than the end cap drives, the harder you
twist the tighter it grips. Similar to this:
http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPage...artNum=7759018

gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on the
> filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the filter
> have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap. How can I
> unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to grab onto
> the filter?
>

 

I use a 2 arm/cam operated wrench that goes on the end of a 3/8" square
drive socket set. MUCH better than the end cap drives, the harder you
twist the tighter it grips. Similar to this:
http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPage...artNum=7759018

gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on the
> filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the filter
> have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap. How can I
> unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to grab onto
> the filter?
>

 

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:38:34 GMT, AJ <alfieb@att.invalid.net> wrote:

>gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>
>>
>> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
>> Liberty? What tool did you use
>>
> The tool you tried should work fine. The main problem is that just
>about everyone over tightens the filter. Seems like people think it has
>to be real tight so it won't leak. Most filters only require 1/2 to 3/4
>quarter turn after the gasket contacts the mating surface. Check the
>box and only tighten the amount it says; makes it come off easy!

Right! A properly installed spin-on oil filter can usually be removed
with your bare hands when the next oil change comes around (assuming
you can get your hands on it, of course).

Dan

 

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:38:34 GMT, AJ <alfieb@att.invalid.net> wrote:

>gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>
>>
>> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
>> Liberty? What tool did you use
>>
> The tool you tried should work fine. The main problem is that just
>about everyone over tightens the filter. Seems like people think it has
>to be real tight so it won't leak. Most filters only require 1/2 to 3/4
>quarter turn after the gasket contacts the mating surface. Check the
>box and only tighten the amount it says; makes it come off easy!

Right! A properly installed spin-on oil filter can usually be removed
with your bare hands when the next oil change comes around (assuming
you can get your hands on it, of course).

Dan

 

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:38:34 GMT, AJ <alfieb@att.invalid.net> wrote:

>gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>
>>
>> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
>> Liberty? What tool did you use
>>
> The tool you tried should work fine. The main problem is that just
>about everyone over tightens the filter. Seems like people think it has
>to be real tight so it won't leak. Most filters only require 1/2 to 3/4
>quarter turn after the gasket contacts the mating surface. Check the
>box and only tighten the amount it says; makes it come off easy!

Right! A properly installed spin-on oil filter can usually be removed
with your bare hands when the next oil change comes around (assuming
you can get your hands on it, of course).

Dan

 

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:38:34 GMT, AJ <alfieb@att.invalid.net> wrote:

>gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>
>>
>> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
>> Liberty? What tool did you use
>>
> The tool you tried should work fine. The main problem is that just
>about everyone over tightens the filter. Seems like people think it has
>to be real tight so it won't leak. Most filters only require 1/2 to 3/4
>quarter turn after the gasket contacts the mating surface. Check the
>box and only tighten the amount it says; makes it come off easy!

Right! A properly installed spin-on oil filter can usually be removed
with your bare hands when the next oil change comes around (assuming
you can get your hands on it, of course).

Dan

 

Hi Billy Ray,

Because both tools you refer to grab the oil filter around its middle,
their "handles" are to the SIDE of the filter.
But, in a Liberty, there's no room at the SIDE of the filter to swing
the "handles".
So the tool almost needs to work from the END of the filter.

Gary